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« on: July 03, 2018, 04:29:23 pm »
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2loge(x+2) - loge(x) = loge3(x-1)
For the above equations, i got answers as -2 and 4, but the answer only said 4. How does the -2 not work as a solution?
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Re: Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 04:36:28 pm »
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When you plug in x= -2, loge3(x-1) and 2loge2(x+2) will not be defined.

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Re: Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 04:44:08 pm »
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When you plug in x= -2, loge3(x-1) and 2loge2(x+2) will not be defined.
(Nor will \(\log_e x\) actually - none of them will be defined)

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Re: Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 04:47:17 pm »
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When you plug in x= -2, loge3(x-1) and 2loge2(x+2) will not be defined.
What do you mean?
Also, can someone please give me a hint as to how to do this question? (don't solve it for me though!)
2^x + 18 * 2^-x = 11
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Re: Re: Mathematics Question Thread
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 04:50:01 pm »
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What do you mean?
He means, that if you try plugging -2 into the original equation, you get \(2 \log_e 0 - \log_e (-2) = \log_e (-9) \). All three of these expressions are nonsense because you can only take log of a strictly positive value. You never take log of 0 or a negative value.

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 04:52:15 pm »
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What do you mean?
Also, can someone please give me a hint as to how to do this question? (don't solve it for me though!)
2^x + 18 * 2^-x = 11
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Think of multiplying everything by 2^x, then it will somewhat resemble a quadratic by letting something = a variable.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 05:52:40 pm »
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for the equation y = 3sin(2x) -4, with a domain of 0≤x≤pi/2
how come the domain over which the gradient is positive is [0, pi/4) and not (0, pi/4)?

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 06:08:44 pm »
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for the equation y = 3sin(2x) -4, with a domain of 0≤x≤pi/2
how come the domain over which the gradient is positive is [0, pi/4) and not (0, pi/4)?


Check the gradient at 0 and observe whether it is positive or negative.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 06:15:26 pm »
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Check the gradient at 0 and observe whether it is positive or negative.
the number 0 doesn't have any gradient?

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 06:21:45 pm »
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the number 0 doesn't have any gradient?
Wait what... I meant differentiate the function and sub in x=0 to find the instantaneous gradient there.
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 06:30:03 pm »
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Wait what... I meant differentiate the function and sub in x=0 to find the instantaneous gradient there.
when i diff the function and let x = 6, it's equal to 6, so since it's 6, and 6>0, then it is [ instead of (
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also, in a transformation matrix, can dilations and reflections be written in any order?

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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 06:33:34 pm »
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when i diff the function and let x = 6, it's equal to 6, so since it's 6, and 6>0, then it is [ instead of (
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also, in a transformation matrix, can dilations and reflections be written in any order?

Wait is this Methods 1/2?
Quick lesson - If you differentiate a function and sub in a point, the instantaneous gradient at that point is either positive, negative or 0. If it is positive, that means the function is increasing at that very point. Negative means decreasing and 0 means it is stationary. Your question asked for the domain over which the gradient was positive. Differentiating your equation and subbing x=0 gives us a gradient of 6, which is POSITIVE. Therefore 0 must be included in the domain over which you specify the gradient is positive.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2018, 06:39:43 pm »
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Wait is this Methods 1/2?
Quick lesson - If you differentiate a function and sub in a point, the instantaneous gradient at that point is either positive, negative or 0. If it is positive, that means the function is increasing at that very point. Negative means decreasing and 0 means it is stationary. Your question asked for the domain over which the gradient was positive. Differentiating your equation and subbing x=0 gives us a gradient of 6, which is POSITIVE. Therefore 0 must be included in the domain over which you specify the gradient is positive.
it's methods 3/4
so if the gradient is >0, it's [
and if the gradient is <0, it's (
and if the gradient is 0, what would it be?

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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2018, 06:44:32 pm »
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I believe you don't include where gradient is 0. so (
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Re: Methods Question
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2018, 06:49:44 pm »
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I believe you don't include where gradient is 0. so (
Is the approach that you have demonstrated above the same when you find the domain over which the gradient is negative?, as in whether it's ) or ]
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