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VCEAcc34

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Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« on: June 24, 2011, 06:14:29 pm »
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Just wondering.

In the book it has no human examples.
humans are born with the 'reflex' behaviours.

anyways the question is do humans have 'fixed action patterns'?

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 06:41:12 pm »
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Higher order species have reflexes.

Lower order species have fixed action patterns.

That's a general rule of thumb, I personally can't think of any fixed action pattern that humans possess. So to answer your question, probably not.
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 11:55:44 pm »
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Babies sucking thumbs and smiling.

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 07:44:58 am »
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Babies sucking thumbs and smiling.
lolol

except i can't tell if you're joking or not(assuming you are)
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 08:36:11 am »
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Sevaree is right, smiling begins as a fixed action pattern in humans (when they're babies), although later it comes under more voluntary control. So that example is a bit dicey, only relevant to infants..But infants smile without practice or prompting, and it involves a sequence of facial muscle movements, particularly around the mouth and eyes. Hence it fits all the criteria to be a fixed action pattern.
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 10:57:20 pm »
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Sevaree is right, smiling begins as a fixed action pattern in humans (when they're babies), although later it comes under more voluntary control. So that example is a bit dicey, only relevant to infants..But infants smile without practice or prompting, and it involves a sequence of facial muscle movements, particularly around the mouth and eyes. Hence it fits all the criteria to be a fixed action pattern.

So if they had a question such as that in an exam, this answer would pass right?
P.S.- Now i feel really stupid :S
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 11:44:44 pm »
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Sevaree is right, smiling begins as a fixed action pattern in humans (when they're babies), although later it comes under more voluntary control. So that example is a bit dicey, only relevant to infants..But infants smile without practice or prompting, and it involves a sequence of facial muscle movements, particularly around the mouth and eyes. Hence it fits all the criteria to be a fixed action pattern.

So if they had a question such as that in an exam, this answer would pass right?
P.S.- Now i feel really stupid :S
hahahaha, no don't feel stupid. It's a very oddball, and not well known example. VCAA has never tested it before. But I guess it's not bad to know about. If it asked for any example of a fixed action pattern, there'd be several other much better examples you could use.
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2011, 11:51:36 pm »
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WHY do you think humans and higher order species do not have fixed action patterns but animals like fish and birds do?

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2011, 12:00:45 am »
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WHY do you think humans and higher order species do not have fixed action patterns but animals like fish and birds do?
Fixed action patterns are a basic survival mechanism required for lower order animals.
However higher order species such as humans and apes benefit from being able to 'learn' from the environment, adapt and change to increase their chances of survival and thus have a lower need for fixed action patterns.
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2011, 12:06:42 am »
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WHY do you think humans and higher order species do not have fixed action patterns but animals like fish and birds do?
Because higher order species are more reliant on using learning to influence behaviour than lower order species like fish or birds who require these instinctive behaviours (i.e. fixed action patterns) to function and survive.

So basically, humans and higher order species are intelligent enough to learn complex behaviours... Lower order species aren't as intelligent therefore their ability to learn a complex behaviour is impaired..Hence they're inbuilt with fixed action patterns; complex behaviours which they don't need to learn but are just born with.

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2011, 12:16:00 am »
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^ Haha, I would never be able to explain something in Psychology as well as you Slumdawg :P
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 10:18:59 pm »
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no we don't.. fixed action patterns are more 'ritualistic'; we're too diverse for that

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 10:22:42 pm »
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diverse? I'd be hesitant in making that your choice of word in explaining why. Slumdawg's answer is what should be used in an exam-situation.
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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 10:34:35 pm »
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you missed my point, that wasn't an 'exam' answer. I was answering his question in simplest terms; diverse meaning complex in multiple ways of expressing a concept = cultural differences etc... some cultures breastfeed, some use other women too.

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Re: Do Humans have fixed action patterns?
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 06:48:17 pm »
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i know what you mean but while we were answering a what am I? handout, the action was yawning and you had to say whether its fixed action, maturation or reflex and the answer was actually fixed action pattern. in a sense it makes sense its done the same way, all humans yawn and the reasons for yawning are generally the same..

but then again, i'm not too sure if it can be used as a reliable answer.