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« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2007, 02:30:03 pm »
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Allowing them to sit their exam isn't positive reinforcement at all.

In that case, you'd have to think both examples would be correct.


I disagree, the teacher is giving the student a second chance at their exam, which presumably the student wants to sit (doesn't matter why they want to - in this case to avoid failure). The important thing is the TEACHER is allowing the student a second chance, hence giving positive reinforcement to the student.


Under your assumption that means that by positively reinforcing the student, they are going to INCREASE the likelihood of their behaviour occurring? So under that rule, you're suggesting that after receiving that so called "reinforcement", the student will continue to fail because they know they will be let off the hook each time?


yeah, what youre saying is theres no listed point to reinforce... but similarly, in D, theres no listed point to punish

lol, C and D are both probably ok answers.. well just have to see when the assessors report comes out lol

edit* and the positive reinforcement could just be to encourage hard work /shrug
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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2007, 02:31:13 pm »
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LOL In my opinion, they are both equally credible answers.
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2007, 02:32:04 pm »
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Thank god that's over.

What other questions caused people grief?

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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2007, 02:32:15 pm »
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lol, C and D are both probably ok answers.. well just have to see when the assessors report comes out lol


lol insert re-iteration here.

Healthy debate tho. i like it.

Any other questions youre a little dubious on?
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2007, 02:33:51 pm »
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What score are you people looking at for MC?

I'm looking at 41/44 which I suppose isn't too bad.
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2007, 02:34:43 pm »
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lol , i hope noone felt into the trap in question 36.

"Nguyen's dog, Yap,  barks whenever he sees a cat. Nguyen yells at the dog.
Despite successfully learning not to bark, two months later Nguyen's dog, yap, begins to bark again at cats. The most accurate term for this behaviour is:
A-stimulus discrimination
B-spontaneous recovery
C-stimulus generalisation
D-Extinction

lol, i ALMOST went for B, but caught myself at the last mintue. It was punishment, and the response has to be weakened, so becomign stronger again means it was extinguished... riight? lol
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2007, 02:36:19 pm »
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can we discuss question 2? it is really confusing

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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2007, 02:36:23 pm »
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I'm pretty sure the answer was extinction, since the learned response (that is, not barking at the cat) was extinguished.

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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2007, 02:36:31 pm »
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lol , i hope noone felt into the trap in question 36.

"Nguyen's dog, Yap,  barks whenever he sees a cat. Nguyen yells at the dog.
Despite successfully learning not to bark, two months later Nguyen's dog, yap, begins to bark again at cats. The most accurate term for this behaviour is:
A-stimulus discrimination
B-spontaneous recovery
C-stimulus generalisation
D-Extinction

lol, i ALMOST went for B, but caught myself at the last mintue. It was punishment, and the response has to be weakened, so becomign stronger again means it was extinguished... riight? lol


I put D, because the dog went back to its old habbits...

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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2007, 02:38:04 pm »
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What score are you people looking at for MC?

I'm looking at 41/44 which I suppose isn't too bad.


hoping for 43/44, but you can judge what you think ill get from answers i posted
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2007, 02:38:06 pm »
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Daaamnnn I did B :(

Wanna explain the trap to me? Still doesn't make sense it's extinction - sure if the question was, the dog stopped barking at cats it would be extinction, but it's not. It goes on to say 2 months later he barks at cats again - thus why I thought it was spontaneous recovery.

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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2007, 02:38:35 pm »
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I'm pretty sure the answer was extinction, since the learned response (that is, not barking at the cat) was extinguished.


yea :) the answer was D.
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2007, 02:40:41 pm »
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Daaamnnn I did B :(

Wanna explain the trap to me? Still doesn't make sense it's extinction - sure if the question was, the dog stopped barking at cats it would be extinction, but it's not. It goes on to say 2 months later he barks at cats again - thus why I thought it was spontaneous recovery.


Well, the intiially behaviour was barking at cats. The operant conditioning was punishment, because he wanted to weaken the barking at cats.

He had learned this, and stopped barking at cats... so the conditioning had been WORKING, so we can say that the dog LEARNED the response.

So whenever a learned response relapses, we call it extinction, rather than spontaneous recovery.
It was a trap because everyone (including me) would intiially assume that because something that wasnt there, starts to happen again, we would think of spontaneous recovery.But its not because were talkin about conditioning the dog to stop htat behaviour. therefore when it starts again, its extinction of the learned response, not spontaneous recovery of it.

If the dog suddenly stops barking again for a period of time, THEN its spontaneous recovery because the learned response (not barking) has reoccurred
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2007, 02:42:36 pm »
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Ah-huh! I seeeeee.

Good question, eh?

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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2007, 02:45:41 pm »
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Ah-huh! I seeeeee.

Good question, eh?

yeah, i thought so too

i really liked this one :D
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