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What is the hardest schecdule of reinforcement to extinguish?

Variable Ratio
Variable Interval

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[Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« on: October 31, 2010, 05:05:13 pm »
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If VCAA do ask this question in the exam, what would you choose?

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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 05:13:26 pm »
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I belive it's variable interval, but i'd choose variable ratio because I can justify it with the gambling example :). I want to be safe
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2010, 05:25:14 pm »
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How do you justify with gambling example?

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2010, 05:27:38 pm »
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gamblers have a very difficult time quitting, they're addicted to it. the example of fishing to me doesn't seem so strong, as I went fishing once and it was boring and i'll never go again. but, people can easily choose to stop fishing once they've started, gambling however is not so easily extinguished
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 05:29:06 pm »
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Okay thanks
gamblers have a very difficult time quitting, they're addicted to it. the example of fishing to me doesn't seem so strong, as I went fishing once and it was boring and i'll never go again. but, people can easily choose to stop fishing once they've started, gambling however is not so easily extinguished
Okay, thanks.

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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 05:32:43 pm »
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Okay thanks
gamblers have a very difficult time quitting, they're addicted to it. the example of fishing to me doesn't seem so strong, as I went fishing once and it was boring and i'll never go again. but, people can easily choose to stop fishing once they've started, gambling however is not so easily extinguished
Okay, thanks.
yeah in regards to the gambling, they continue to play due to the uncertainty, of how many times they need to play in order to win.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2010, 05:34:52 pm »
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isnt gambler thing variable ratio??
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2010, 05:36:01 pm »
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isnt gambler thing variable ratio??

yup it is
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2010, 05:37:02 pm »
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isnt gambler thing variable ratio??
yeah, initially I thought believed that variable interval was the most difficult to extinguish, as it makes the most sense to me..
but my teacher researched it quite thoroughly and most if not all of her resources seemed to agree with variable ratio.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2010, 06:28:21 pm »
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I thought it was interval. Think of pressing the button when wanting to cross at the lights.

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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2010, 06:34:34 pm »
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isnt gambler thing variable ratio??
yeah, initially I thought believed that variable interval was the most difficult to extinguish, as it makes the most sense to me..
but my teacher researched it quite thoroughly and most if not all of her resources seemed to agree with variable ratio.

My teacher said it is "definitely variable interval". And I was telling her about a few places where I read Variable ratio was and she said they must be wrong.. So I dunno. It's tricky. I think there would be an uproar if VCAA put it on this years paper.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2010, 06:36:41 pm »
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isnt gambler thing variable ratio??
yeah, initially I thought believed that variable interval was the most difficult to extinguish, as it makes the most sense to me..
but my teacher researched it quite thoroughly and most if not all of her resources seemed to agree with variable ratio.

My teacher said it is "definitely variable interval". And I was telling her about a few places where I read Variable ratio was and she said they must be wrong.. So I dunno. It's tricky. I think there would be an uproar if VCAA put it on this years paper.
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okay, my contemplations have concluded and I have deduced, that I have no clue which is more resistant....
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2010, 09:35:04 pm »
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The shitty thing is that Psychology at university is now pretty much using the cognitive paradigm, not behavioural. That sort of means that I don't have any textbooks that could really explain it in detail.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2010, 09:55:04 pm »
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the gambling example is variable ratio because the button doesnt push itself and the button must be pushed, someone must be sitting on the machine for the jackpot to go off.

variable interval takes the longest to acquire and is the hardest to extinguish. IIRC.

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2010, 09:56:49 pm »
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Just to throw a little more confusion into the debate, I'm pretty sure gaming machines have a variable interval schedule sometimes, as well as a variable ratio one. Read that on some handouts we got.

Like, you have to perform the behaviour, but sometimes it won't pay out for a randomly determined period of time?