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Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« on: January 22, 2020, 12:17:57 am »
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So I'm aware there have been a couple threads on this before, but I guess things have changed a bit because Melbourne got rid of their prerequisites for the MD recently. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Bachelor of Commerce to Doctor of Medicine pathway at unimelb / know of anyone who's done it? I'm also aiming to apply interstate - I think the only uni now that has prerequisites for graduate med is Macquarie, are there any others?

I know it must sound really weird that I'm considering a pathway with two completely different fields, but I just want to make sure I have a backup plan in case I don't get into graduate med in Australia - I was considering Science/biomed, but fields like research and engineering aren't really my thing, and after speaking to some of my friends working in the commerce field it sounds like something I might be interested in.

any help would be appreciated, cheers
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2020, 12:33:05 am »
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So I'm aware there have been a couple threads on this before, but I guess things have changed a bit because Melbourne got rid of their prerequisites for the MD recently. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Bachelor of Commerce to Doctor of Medicine pathway at unimelb / know of anyone who's done it? I'm also aiming to apply interstate - I think the only uni now that has prerequisites for graduate med is Macquarie, are there any others?

I know it must sound really weird that I'm considering a pathway with two completely different fields, but I just want to make sure I have a backup plan in case I don't get into graduate med in Australia - I was considering Science/biomed, but fields like research and engineering aren't really my thing, and after speaking to some of my friends working in the commerce field it sounds like something I might be interested in.

any help would be appreciated, cheers
I mean, It falls under the pathway of undergraduate degree in any field -> graduate course. It really isn't too "weird" there are definitely people who do courses in non-science undergraduate fields and then go onto medicine/dent/opt type stuff in post grad. You will just have to do the GAMSAT also alongside you degree.

As an aside - if you aren't interested in research you might not enjoy med, they are heavily linked and most doctors/medical students are invovled in research projects throughout their degrees and careers. Definitely look into what medicine entails before you commit.

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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2020, 06:00:54 pm »
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I mean, It falls under the pathway of undergraduate degree in any field -> graduate course. It really isn't too "weird" there are definitely people who do courses in non-science undergraduate fields and then go onto medicine/dent/opt type stuff in post grad. You will just have to do the GAMSAT also alongside you degree.

As an aside - if you aren't interested in research you might not enjoy med, they are heavily linked and most doctors/medical students are invovled in research projects throughout their degrees and careers. Definitely look into what medicine entails before you commit.
Thanks, I'll look into it. Also, how beneficial would it be to take 1st Year Bio/Physics as a breadth subject in preparation for the GAMSAT? Or do you think it's possible to self-study for? (already done chem so I'm hoping that's enough)
I've also seen quite a few courses online which seem to be the equivalent of Medentry/medify but for the GAMSAT - do a lot of students use these to prepare?
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2020, 07:46:50 pm »
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Thanks, I'll look into it. Also, how beneficial would it be to take 1st Year Bio/Physics as a breadth subject in preparation for the GAMSAT? Or do you think it's possible to self-study for? (already done chem so I'm hoping that's enough)
I've also seen quite a few courses online which seem to be the equivalent of Medentry/medify but for the GAMSAT - do a lot of students use these to prepare?
As you said MUEP chem covers it quite well. Personally if you are going to take a breadth I would take physics since the questions that come up in the physics portion becomes much easier if you have done physics. As for the bio component I think knowing a bunch of biology facts don't really help as much as one would think since they test reasoning which is something that is harder to explicitly study for but can definitely improve over time.

However, there are definitely still those that are from non-science background and still do well since it is a test of reasoning not just knowing science.

You can definitely self-study. The consensus best resources are the actual ACER practice papers and Des O'Neil workbooks (2014 is the latest edition but they are still useful).

As for prep courses there are varying opinions of them. Some people say that the students who go there are those students who would probably already do well in the GAMSAT. They are obviously already quite motivated and dedicated if they are going to go a prep course. But, I have heard people have improved from these too having sat the GAMSAT both before and after a prep course. I think it really depends on the student personally. I wouldn't really know on whether they are super popular percentage wise but they are definitely being used by quite a lot of people.
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 08:23:05 pm »
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So I'm aware there have been a couple threads on this before, but I guess things have changed a bit because Melbourne got rid of their prerequisites for the MD recently. Does anyone have any thoughts on the Bachelor of Commerce to Doctor of Medicine pathway at unimelb / know of anyone who's done it? I'm also aiming to apply interstate - I think the only uni now that has prerequisites for graduate med is Macquarie, are there any others?

I know it must sound really weird that I'm considering a pathway with two completely different fields, but I just want to make sure I have a backup plan in case I don't get into graduate med in Australia - I was considering Science/biomed, but fields like research and engineering aren't really my thing, and after speaking to some of my friends working in the commerce field it sounds like something I might be interested in.

any help would be appreciated, cheers

Lol Commerce is lowkey one of the least employable degrees these days.. go study engineering :)

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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 09:00:37 pm »
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Lol Commerce is lowkey one of the least employable degrees these days.. go study engineering :)
Is that so? :\ I guess I can see maybe fields like accounting being in less demand due to the rise of technology and the sheer amount of graduates but surely things like management/marketing/econ would still be highly employable?
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2020, 10:30:38 pm »
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Is that so? :\ I guess I can see maybe fields like accounting being in less demand due to the rise of technology and the sheer amount of graduates but surely things like management/marketing/econ would still be highly employable?

You're right, but what I've heard is that most employers want people who are good problem solvers and can think very analytically. Given that a degree in Commerce is considered something that is quite easy to obtain, and since degrees in maths/CompSci/engineering etc require a lot of abstract thinking and problem solving abilities (and are relatively more difficult), employers may prefer to hire people who have those degrees as opposed to people who have graduated with a degree in commerce.
 

 
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2020, 03:26:28 pm »
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Is that so? :\ I guess I can see maybe fields like accounting being in less demand due to the rise of technology and the sheer amount of graduates but surely things like management/marketing/econ would still be highly employable?

You can still get generic commerce jobs (Big 4, Banks ect.) but you generally need an outgoing personality

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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 08:48:23 pm »
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Just to add a slightly different perspective to this, having a Commerce degree before med would be really helpful in some ways. One of my friends went through this pathway (prereqs and all) and whilst med has been a challenge for her, despite the fact that she is doing well, she offers a really different perspective and has a really unique set of skills that set her apart from other doctors.

Increasingly, doctors are seeing new and diverse opportunities presented to them, some of which really benefit from having a degree of financial literacy. In that context, commerce can be really valuable.
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Re: Bachelor of commerce --> doctor of medicine
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2020, 03:00:03 pm »
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To offer yet another opinion, while there are obvious differences between degrees, what should matter most in choosing your path are your own interests, not generic notions of ‘employability’.

There are a lot of variables in choosing a degree, and reducing it to “do eng, not commerce” is imo not that helpful.

If there was a silver bullet in the form of a degree that is interesting (and you’re good at) and leads to a job that is rewarding and in which you’re swimming in cash, everyone would be doing it. But your priorities and interests are going to be very different from the next person’s.