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My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« on: June 21, 2019, 12:15:56 pm »
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Hi this is my first post I hope i'm doing it right!

I want to do English 3/4 next year in year 11. My teacher said no it's not allowed but I canít find anything on the vcaa website that says itís not allowed. I want to do english early as it has to be in your top 4 and itíll be hard to get a good score in year 12 when Iíve also got other 3/4s. So is it allowed or not??

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2019, 01:14:17 pm »
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It's not if your school doesn't allow you to. I would be speaking to somebody with authority to make decisions relating to enrolment e.g. a coordinator to discuss this as it differs from school to school. One school may allow you to do it as they have the capacity and flexibility to do so, while others might not.

A school can say no on curriculum/timetabling grounds - that's when you'd then explore other options and possibilities e.g. Distance, but I don't think you'd want to do that for a critical subject such as English.

Timetabling works in blocks - so if the subject you want to do doesn't go well with your other options, then it is definitely not possible. The timetable unfortunately takes priority over personal requests. There are so many factors at play when a decision is made like this, such as class numbers, availability of teachers, the works.... so if they say you can't do it, rest assured there's probably a really good reason why.

Perhaps you could explore doing  3/4 in another subject during Year 11, one which the school allows?
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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2019, 04:04:42 pm »
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Hey there!

Just to add to Aaron's already comprehensive response above -- I did literature 3/4 in year 11, and yes it is definitely allowed! However, different schools have different polices, and yours might be particularly strict on what subjects you can and cannot do early. In my case, the school initially said no, and I had to write a special application and talk to my year 10 English teacher, Head of VCE English, and the main VCE Coordinator, before the school allowed me into 3/4. Iíd recommend you to go speak to your current English teacher as well as your school's head of VCE about it and see what they have to say.

Also, doing English 3/4 in year 11 is definitely not recommended by most schools. The advantage of doing it in year 12 is that chances are you'll have the experience from whatever 3/4 you previously did in year 11 to know what you should and should not do in year 12. This might not be as much of a problem if you've already done / are currently doing a 3/4 though.

Hope it works out with your school! Good luck :)))
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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2019, 10:17:01 pm »
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Thanks Aaron, thing is, surely the school hasn't made the timetable for 2020 already? I get that it won't work if there's really a clash, but we haven't done (official) our subject selections yet.

I've thought of doing another subject early but since english is the most important subject I want to do it in year 11 when it's my only 3/4, as opposed to year 12 when there are a bunch of other subjects which I must also pay attention to.

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2019, 10:17:51 pm »
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Hi Collins thanks for your response.

I'm doing psych 3/4 this year so if I do english early it won't be my first 3/4 subject.

Congrats on your 50 in lit btw. do you think it helped doing it in year 11 when you didn't have four other 3/4s to pay attention to?

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2019, 08:53:56 pm »
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Hi Collins thanks for your response.

I'm doing psych 3/4 this year so if I do english early it won't be my first 3/4 subject.

Congrats on your 50 in lit btw. do you think it helped doing it in year 11 when you didn't have four other 3/4s to pay attention to?

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Thanks! And yep, it definitely helped, although the downside is that I didn't work hard enough on my 1/2s so I'm struggling a lot more this year. Don't make my mistake ;)

I forgot to add this before, but one thing to be careful of if you do end up doing English 3/4 early: VCAA requires all students to successfully complete at least THREE units of English in order to pass VCE. So if you do English 3/4 next year as your ONLY English, you must do at least an additional unit of Literature or English Language in year 11, or else you might not be able to get an ATAR!

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 01:36:11 pm »
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I forgot to add this before, but one thing to be careful of if you do end up doing English 3/4 early: VCAA requires all students to successfully complete at least THREE units of English in order to pass VCE. So if you do English 3/4 next year as your ONLY English, you must do at least an additional unit of Literature or English Language in year 11, or else you might not be able to get an ATAR!

I was going to add, my guess is the school is saying no because you need three units - were you planning to do one of the 1/2 English subjects at the same time?

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2019, 01:52:07 pm »
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I think the advantage of an extra year of English education probably outweighs the advantage of being able to focus on it. Being able to focus on it means you can reach your potential, but thereís a decent chance your potential is lower in Year 11 than it would be in Year 12 after an additional year of writing and feedback. Itís not a common subject to accelerate, I think probably for this reason. Iíd accelerate something else and take 3-4 subjects in Year 12... and if you do well in the two youíve accelerated, well - you effectively only need to focus on English and one other subject in Year 12 to round out your top four.
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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 01:33:25 pm »
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Hi this is my first post I hope i'm doing it right!

I want to do English 3/4 next year in year 11. My teacher said no it's not allowed but I canít find anything on the vcaa website that says itís not allowed. I want to do english early as it has to be in your top 4 and itíll be hard to get a good score in year 12 when Iíve also got other 3/4s. So is it allowed or not??

thanks in advance!!

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Re: My teacher says I can't do english 3/4 in year 11?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 10:04:49 pm »
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I've been told if a school says "no its not allowed" but the VCAA says you can do it you should speak to the VCAA because your school cannot say you cannot do it.

Not necessarily. Some schools have rules about how they do things, which cannot be ignored or overturned by going to VCAA. However, VCAA can give you insight into what other schools may offer.
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