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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4515 on: October 06, 2019, 10:44:56 pm »
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Hi!

Just wanted to add on to Angelina, the techniques you use can be as simple as symbolism. Once I found this out, I went from like 15/20 to 20/20, I also structure my responses super formulaic, which sucks for the marker but ensures I have enough techniques and points for the marks.

Hope this helps!
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Yeah, I'm a formulaic response kind of guy for short answer - if I can't memorise I'm going to try and get close to it. Symbolism/Juxtaposition/Subversion are my god tiers for techniques ahaha - perhaps the holy trinity for me.

I actually just finished a response, I don't think I wrote enough for 6 marks, perhaps better for 4 marker, or a part of a 6 marker - but I think it's a fair start. I'll add it below along with the question and sample text.

"The narrative juxtaposition between the character's description of community and personal reaction, illustrates the complexities of human response to places and people. Namely, the excerpt opens with the imagery of a “blue, indolent town”, accompanied by a continuation of short-sentenced accumulative listing to conjure the feeling of tiredness and normality in the responder which characterises the persona’s relationship with his community as [[tiresome]]. However, this initial reaction is juxtaposed by the later metaphor of “[Bells] flood over me, drawing me out of myself” indicating the way communities and place change typical responses in people - namely a “part of this town and happy”. A further juxtaposition is made once three ambiguous characters are introduced, using the subverted colour symbolism in “Three boys on motorbikes go by. And then the pure, melancholy, first blue of morning” - suggesting that a symbiotic relationship between people and communities is limited to individual connection as opposed to a collective connection - such drawing out the complex specificities that formula the relationship between people and their communities. Ultimately, the collection of these juxtapositions specific serve to formulate a complex dichotomy between the individual, the collective, and their involvement with communities. It is addressed that the attitudes towards communities are reliant on niche factors, contributing to its complexities."

Thoughts on structure, responding, etc?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4516 on: October 06, 2019, 11:23:06 pm »
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Hey, Muir.mclennan!

They can definitely specify a technique because there was a similar question that also specified a technique in the sample paper NESA provided. What I would do with those sort of questions is to make sure you gear your response towards that technique but also look at other examples that support the technique's effectiveness in the text. For example, if you had the use of setting here with 1984, you could look at having examples with setting as the key language form and then use say dialogue or visual imagery as supporting analysis to show how the characters respond to the place as a part of their human experiences. This way, you address the focus of the question but you also expand it with further examples that also shaped your perception of the human experience. Hope that helps!

Angelina  ;D

Hey Angelina! Just wanted to clarify with you about that essay question.

In other words, do you have to link back to setting (eg. how Oceania is decrepit, how the populace is dehumanised) in every example you use?

What are some other likely literary devices that they may specify?

Also, to everyone else! Are you guys going to prepare a creative that's written from the perspective of a persona in one of the Mod C texts? It seemed like quite a popular trial question... :( I don't know which character/persona to use though.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4517 on: October 08, 2019, 07:45:11 pm »
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Also, to everyone else! Are you guys going to prepare a creative that's written from the perspective of a persona in one of the Mod C texts? It seemed like quite a popular trial question... :( I don't know which character/persona to use though.

I'm not preparing a creative from a perspective. It was NESA's sample they released and like you mentioned it was a really popular question, so I think it is highly unlikely. But I mean you never know 

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4518 on: October 08, 2019, 09:11:42 pm »
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So a lot of past papers state "use the stimulus below as a starting point." How exactly do I use a stimulus- do I quote it. do I talk about the ideas within it? These are for the essays btw. Just a bit confused of how to integrate them, as I've never actually been taught how. 

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4519 on: October 08, 2019, 10:17:46 pm »
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So a lot of past papers state "use the stimulus below as a starting point." How exactly do I use a stimulus- do I quote it. do I talk about the ideas within it? These are for the essays btw. Just a bit confused of how to integrate them, as I've never actually been taught how.

Hey, dani01!

I would use the stimulus as the basis of your essay's judgement and answer to the question. If it's a statement or quote about the module and/or its concepts, you would discuss the ideas that emerge from it and decide on themes from your text that best illustrate those ideas. You wouldn't have to quote it directly if it isn't specified in the question but I do recommend quoting it anyway so you can engage more deeply with its ideas.

As for having an extract from the text as a stimulus, I would highly encourage discussing the ideas and themes that reflect it and using it as textual evidence in the essay itself. You were welcome to include your own prepared techniques in your analysis too! Hope that helps  :)

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4520 on: October 08, 2019, 10:30:50 pm »
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Hey Angelina! Just wanted to clarify with you about that essay question.

In other words, do you have to link back to setting (eg. how Oceania is decrepit, how the populace is dehumanised) in every example you use?

What are some other likely literary devices that they may specify?

Hey, worldno1!

If the question specifies a technique, it's definitely a good idea to link back to setting since it is being asked as the dominant language form/feature to analyse. That being said, your links should still be human experience-centred for this particular module; with this example of setting, consider how constructions of place using language in texts can help the audience better engage with the contemporary world and its dynamics.

As for specifying language forms or features to use, I would assume that they would keep them quite broad and use "umbrella" techniques such as imagery, narration, voice, genre conventions (narrative, dramatic, cinematic, poetic etc.). This is so you can expand and elaborate with more detailed evidence (so with imagery, you could look at all the different types of sensory imagery or with dramatic conventions, you could explore stage directions, props, lighting and sound effects). Hope that helps!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4521 on: October 09, 2019, 10:41:16 pm »
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Hi,
When analysing quotes, in a circumstance where there is no technique but I want to use the quote, is there any technique that is general and I can apply to a lot of quotes?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4522 on: October 10, 2019, 08:37:57 am »
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Hi,
When analysing quotes, in a circumstance where there is no technique but I want to use the quote, is there any technique that is general and I can apply to a lot of quotes?

Hi!

I don't think there is one technique that can apply to every quote.
However, some things you could look out for could include imagery (visual, visceral etc.), syntax, type of language used (high modality, emotive etc.), allusion, or symbol/motif.

Or, if you could pair the quote with another shorter quote that emphasises your point / explanation, that is also a good option.

Hope this helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4523 on: October 10, 2019, 08:02:45 pm »
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Hi there!!

I was just wondering for HSC, can we write just "1984", instead of "Nineteen Eighty Four"? is that allowed?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4524 on: October 10, 2019, 08:23:33 pm »
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Hi there!!

I was just wondering for HSC, can we write just "1984", instead of "Nineteen Eighty Four"? is that allowed?

Thank you!!

Write out the full title in the introduction but then add (1984) in brackets so you can use the abbreviation after eg. Nineteen Eighty Four (1984)
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4525 on: October 11, 2019, 07:41:11 am »
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Hey,
Any advice for preparing for module C?
Should I prepare a discursive, persuasive and creative?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4526 on: October 12, 2019, 09:57:15 am »
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Hiya all!
For Mod A my prescribed texts include 7 poems (Keats: The Complete Poems) and currently in my prepared scaffolds, I have discussed 4 of these. Should I also include the other three as part of my existing scaffold or plan for them to fit my ideas so I can exchange which poems I use on the day? In other words, would it be better to talk about all 7 poems in my response or should I prepare all of them but only talk about a few?
Thank You and good luck everyone- we can do it!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4527 on: October 12, 2019, 10:07:16 am »
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Could you say that fragmented sentences are a post-modern technique?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4528 on: October 12, 2019, 05:38:38 pm »
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Hey eleswisdando,
 
Honestly, if fragmented sentences add meaning to post-modernist concepts, it can be said to be post-modernist but remember that fragmented sentences were used heavily in Modernism literature like Eliot's poetry for example. I guess it's just better calling it just a technique.

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4529 on: October 13, 2019, 09:44:01 am »
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Hey!
I just want to ask if we choose to include context, should it be placed before QTE or after it ?