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Re: UMAT
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2013, 01:30:05 pm »
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So from past experience with the umat, how would you guys compare the difficulty of the medentry as with the real umat qs. I know this may be different year by year, but I'm only after a general outline
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Re: UMAT
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2013, 04:52:57 pm »
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So from past experience with the umat, how would you guys compare the difficulty of the medentry as with the real umat qs. I know this may be different year by year, but I'm only after a general outline

Generally real UMAT is easier than Medentry questions as they are trying to prepare you for the more difficult questions and train you to work faster. That said, many/most people don't finish the real UMAT so it's not easy either...
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Re: UMAT
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2013, 05:11:52 pm »
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Generally real UMAT is easier than Medentry questions

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2013, 05:40:58 pm »
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^ lol  :P

But in all seriousness, what happened to the "most logically" and "simply" idea that ACER propagates? You're saying that medentry explains things the complex way...?
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2013, 05:53:11 pm »
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But in all seriousness, what happened to the "most logically" and "simply" idea that ACER propagates? You're saying that medentry explains things the complex way...?

Nah that's just a joke haha. There are some ambiguous patterns and you'll see yourself in MedEntry that some of their patterns aren't "the first pattern" that comes to mind.

In the real UMAT, I found that the patterns (when I knew them), were far more obvious and much less ambiguous :)
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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 08:08:31 pm »
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Having two possible logical answers to one of those pattern questions is quite stupid. The student is not wrong to select the other one then, is he?

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 08:45:01 pm »
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Having two possible logical answers to one of those pattern questions is quite stupid. The student is not wrong to select the other one then, is he?

As I said, in the real UMAT I didn't see any ambiguity.

Looking from another view, sometimes students do find really really obscure patterns that were not intended. Which is why you should always choose the simplest and most logical pattern.
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Re: UMAT
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2013, 12:45:44 pm »
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How relevant are the questions in the eureka questions bank?
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2013, 01:20:55 pm »
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How relevant are the questions in the eureka questions bank?

Fairly relevant
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« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2013, 02:13:02 pm »
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So im registering for the umat, and it says "select the type of school you attended". I dont know if im being pedantic or not, but "attended" is past tense; im still attending school?
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« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2013, 06:23:34 pm »
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Having two possible logical answers to one of those pattern questions is quite stupid. The student is not wrong to select the other one then, is he?

Actually there are multiple possible answers to any PTM question. In fact, since you only have 5 images to work with, you could theoretically justify any of the 120 possible combinations as being a sequence. The idea here is NOT that there will only ever be one correct sequence (no there will be 60 justifiable sequences in every question, - 120 each way).

The idea here is that there will be ONE sequence that is much more obvious and clear and one that makes much more direct sense than any of the other sequences. There is a hierarchy in the UMAT where the simpler pattern, should one exist, will always trump a more convoluted and ambiguous pattern to be the correct one.


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« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2013, 08:42:56 pm »
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So im registering for the umat, and it says "select the type of school you attended". I dont know if im being pedantic or not, but "attended" is past tense; im still attending school?


Just the school you're in. It's phrased that way (or so I'm guessing) because the UMAT can be sat by people who are graduated from school too.
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Re: UMAT
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2013, 09:16:07 pm »
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If you guys need a good section 3 umat  books umat123 and umat456 are brilliant (used them last year). The questions are harder then the real thing making the actual section 3 of the umat much easier.   http://umattutor.com/umat456.html

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Re: UMAT
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2013, 09:55:22 pm »
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I've finished a couple of practice exams and most of the drills but I find that I don't have the time to review my questions after I've finished them, especially for the exams. Is this disadvantaging me in any way?

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Re: UMAT
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2013, 10:00:14 pm »
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Also, just out of interest, what would a 0-20th percentile on medentry be equivalent to in the actual UMAT?

90-95th percentile? maybe???