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October 27, 2020, 07:31:11 pm

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2970 on: September 15, 2020, 07:31:34 am »
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2971 on: September 16, 2020, 02:42:17 pm »
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Due to online learning technical difficulties I have failed a sac. I was previously on track to get a 45 (well not on track because these scores are never guaranteed but my sac scores where in that direction). I have now had two average sac scores one was my fault (getting flustered in the sac) the second was medicocre (I could not see or answer any questions within the sac as the platform would not load >:()

I know one average sac wonít do much harm but with these two average SACs my Unit 4 average is now exactly 80% with no SACs left :(
Unit 3 average was okay-ish 87% average.

The average for SACs is usually 70% and my friend was average mid 70s last year which turned into A+ for SACs and she got a 40 but Iím not counting on that scaling due to Covid and I know cohort strength fluctuates from year to year.

Is it still possible with these bad sac scores (assuming they donít scale) to still yield 45-ish if I get 85% on the exam? Iím so crushed and feel like I should just give up.
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2972 on: September 16, 2020, 03:11:08 pm »
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Due to online learning technical difficulties I have failed a sac. I was previously on track to get a 45 (well not on track because these scores are never guaranteed but my sac scores where in that direction). I have now had two average sac scores one was my fault (getting flustered in the sac) the second was medicocre (I could not see or answer any questions within the sac as the platform would not load >:()

I know one average sac wonít do much harm but with these two average SACs my Unit 4 average is now exactly 80% with no SACs left :(
Unit 3 average was okay-ish 87% average.

The average for SACs is usually 70% and my friend was average mid 70s last year which turned into A+ for SACs and she got a 40 but Iím not counting on that scaling due to Covid and I know cohort strength fluctuates from year to year.

Is it still possible with these bad sac scores (assuming they donít scale) to still yield 45-ish if I get 85% on the exam? Iím so crushed and feel like I should just give up.

I haven't told many people this - but I absolutely HATE predicting study scores. Kinda ironic (and maybe hypocritical?) since I made a calculator to do it for me, eh? But I honestly think study score prediction helps no one, because either one of two things typically happen:

1. I tell someone that they will get the score they want - they then become complacent, their marks drop, they no longer get that score, and just feel bad about it. (they may also blame me, but tbh, that's not something I'm too concerned about, I'm more upset that they no longer got the score they wanted or were on track to get)

2. I tell someone that they won't get the score that they want - they then lose motivation to do well, and end up doing EVEN WORSE than they could've. Maybe I tell them they won't get a 40, but could still get a 38 - but because that 40 is out of reach, they instead just lose hope and end up with a 33.

Now - I'm not saying this is going to happen to you, and I don't mean for this to come across as a lecture or for it to make you feel bad or worse than you currently do (and if I've had that effect - I truly am sorry). But, I can already see that you're losing motivation, and I don't want to crush that motivation even more than it already is. Anybody can ignore my post and give you a prediction anyway, but I have to ask before I look at your scores and try to predict them properly myself. Would you rather:

1. Know your score, with the risk of losing all hope and motivation if you can't get 45?
2. Live without knowing what the current prediction is, and so with the motivation that there's still a chance you can get above 45?

This isn't a call out to you personally - I would be asking this question to anyone who's feeling upset and potentially a little disillusioned. I know you've been working hard, I've seen it personally in all the questions you ask and your constant work on the board - I just don't want to ruin all the effort you've put in so far by dooming you to get lower scores in your upcoming assessments.

It's also worth knowing that nobody can know how a certain grade distribution will be - so even if I predict you getting below a 45, that doesn't mean it will happen, because the distribution might lower this year. But by the same token, the distribution may raise this year, and I might falsely predict you getting above 45.
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2973 on: September 18, 2020, 02:26:48 pm »
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What results on the exam would I be looking at for a 37 raw in English? [I'm at MHS]

Unit 3 SAC results, A[language analysis], A+[creative], B [text response]
Unit 4 SAC results so far [haven't done comparative sac yet]- A+ [argument]

Do you know what percentage you got for each?
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2974 on: September 23, 2020, 08:12:16 pm »
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Hey!! Can you please predict my study score for Bio?

Cohort strength: I think Suzanne Cory is pretty strong?
Cohort size: There are about 100-150 students in my Bio cohort

Unit 3 rank: top 10
Unit 3 average: 88%
Unit 4 rank: top 20
Unit 4 average: 85%

Exam mark: 105-110/120

Thank you so much <3
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2975 on: September 23, 2020, 08:36:02 pm »
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Hey!! Can you please predict my study score for Bio?

Cohort strength: I think Suzanne Cory is pretty strong?
Cohort size: There are about 100-150 students in my Bio cohort

Unit 3 rank: top 10
Unit 3 average: 88%
Unit 4 rank: top 20
Unit 4 average: 85%

Exam mark: 105-110/120

Thank you so much <3
If the exam is similar to the last couple years in difficulty I would say mid to high 40s.

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2976 on: September 25, 2020, 01:06:27 am »
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Anxiety starting to kick in


Chem:
Average to below average cohort. Perhaps rank 1 and 2 will get 40+ ss    and the rest between 25-35.
Unit 3: Rank 16/16 (missed a sac and got zero lol)
Unit 4: Rank 4/16
Exam: ?
what exam score do I need for a 25 or a 30?

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2977 on: September 25, 2020, 02:24:38 am »
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Anxiety starting to kick in


Chem:
Average to below average cohort. Perhaps rank 1 and 2 will get 40+ ss    and the rest between 25-35.
Unit 3: Rank 16/16 (missed a sac and got zero lol)
Unit 4: Rank 4/16
Exam: ?
what exam score do I need for a 25 or a 30?

It would help if I knew your scores, but my gut reaction - yes, doing well enough on the exam will get you >25. Using my calculator, even if you get 0 for BOTH unit 3 and 4 SACs, a score of 25 is still in your range if you get 80%, and the predictor guarantees* it if you get an 85%

*Guarantees it only if the grade distribution is exactly the same, so you may need to score higher than that still, but you might also not need to score that high. Basically, just saying that more than 25 is still on the cards, and while I can't tell you how high you need to score, I can tell you it should still be possible
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2978 on: September 25, 2020, 09:17:55 am »
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It would help if I knew your scores, but my gut reaction - yes, doing well enough on the exam will get you >25. Using my calculator, even if you get 0 for BOTH unit 3 and 4 SACs, a score of 25 is still in your range if you get 80%, and the predictor guarantees* it if you get an 85%

*Guarantees it only if the grade distribution is exactly the same, so you may need to score higher than that still, but you might also not need to score that high. Basically, just saying that more than 25 is still on the cards, and while I can't tell you how high you need to score, I can tell you it should still be possible


Overall Iíd say Iím ranked 12th or 13th out of 16 people (unit 3/4).
If the people above me get within 25-35 study scores, do I still need a very high exam mark for 25 or a 30?

Iím a bit confused on how to use the predictor

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2979 on: September 25, 2020, 05:11:37 pm »
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Overall Iíd say Iím ranked 12th or 13th out of 16 people (unit 3/4).
If the people above me get within 25-35 study scores, do I still need a very high exam mark for 25 or a 30?

Iím a bit confused on how to use the predictor

Ranking is important to predicting results, yes - but so are what your SAC scores /actually/ are. Did you get 20%, 30%, 78%? Ironically, being the lowest ranked student for unit 3, and still being pretty low after including unit 4, you likely don't have to worry about your SAC scores changing, because the lowest SAC score is also used to figure out how to scale everyone else in the cohort. Sorry about that :(

I can't really put a figure on it, but again, without your SAC scores, I can't really say anything more than, "80% should likely still put you in the running for a 25+ score".

To use the predictor (and these instructions are also listed in the pink box on the predictor), first you need to click File -> Make a Copy -> OK while logged into a Google account. A new tab will open - if you go into this tab, you'll now be in a different version of the calculator, one you'll be able to make edits to. In the red boxes, you need to enter the subject you want to calculate for using the drop-down box (click the arrow on the right of the box). Then, in the green boxes, enter what your mark is for that assessment. Usually, GA1=unit 3 SACs, GA2=unit 4 SACs, and GA3=exam. This isn't always the case, refer to the study design for your subject just to make sure - simply ctrl+f and type in "Graded assessment" and you'll be taken to the relevant part of the study design.
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2980 on: September 27, 2020, 10:33:30 am »
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Hi could someone help me out with working out what exam score I would need for a 40 and 42 in English Language? I have been told my teacher, that my internal SAC scores should scale to a low A+, based on students in the past.

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2981 on: September 27, 2020, 08:44:06 pm »
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Can someone help predict my
Study score,
 English I have an average of 64% what will my study score be ?

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2982 on: September 27, 2020, 09:02:43 pm »
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Can someone help predict my
Study score,
 English I have an average of 64% what will my study score be ?

Hey there I'm Not Smary,

In order to be able to predict your study score, we also need to know your average for both unit 3 and 4 and how "competitive" your cohort is :) I also recommend checking this out https://atar-calculator.deakin.edu.au/vce-study-score-calculator/. It's not entirely accurate but it could predict an estimate.

Happy studying :)
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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2983 on: September 27, 2020, 11:39:08 pm »
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Hey there I'm Not Smary,

In order to be able to predict your study score, we also need to know your average for both unit 3 and 4 and how "competitive" your cohort is :) I also recommend checking this out https://atar-calculator.deakin.edu.au/vce-study-score-calculator/. It's not entirely accurate but it could predict an estimate.

Happy studying :)

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Re: Study Score Prediction Question Thread
« Reply #2984 on: September 29, 2020, 12:48:05 am »
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Hi.
I would like to know whether or not i can still acheive 42 for biology. I go to a strong cohort with ~70 students and my unit 3 sac average is 78% and the cohort average is 62%. The top person is around 80%-82%  (predicted) for unit 3. The sacs are very hard. For unit 4, i got 85% for the sac. Thank you.

Ps. ~18% of cohort gets 40+
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