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#### pugs

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« Reply #18030 on: July 18, 2019, 09:27:31 pm »
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if anyone would be able to help me out with this probability question, that'd be amazing!

A die is weighted as follows:
Pr(2) = Pr(3) = Pr(4) = Pr(5) = 0.2,    Pr(1) = Pr(6) = 0.1
The die is rolled twice, and the smaller of the numbers showing is noted. let Y represent this value,

Find Pr(Y = 1)

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#### redpanda83

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« Reply #18031 on: July 18, 2019, 09:40:25 pm »
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thanks for the response! may i ask how does f(x/5) = 5a? because i thought that if you pull the 1/5 out from the f(x/5), the value would be multiplied by 1/5
Easiest way to explain -
f(x/5) - f(x) was dialated by factor of 5 parallel to x axis/from y axis.
=> means a became 5a after dialation. and area was dialated by factor of 5 as well . So integral of f(x/5) = 5a

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« Reply #18032 on: July 18, 2019, 09:42:49 pm »
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if anyone would be able to help me out with this probability question, that'd be amazing!

A die is weighted as follows:
Pr(2) = Pr(3) = Pr(4) = Pr(5) = 0.2,    Pr(1) = Pr(6) = 0.1
The die is rolled twice, and the smaller of the numbers showing is noted. let Y represent this value,

Find Pr(Y = 1)

First, let's write all the possible outcomes that make up the event $Y=1$. They are: $(1,1),\ (1,2),\ (2,1),\ (1,3),\ (3,1),\ (1,4),\ (4,1),\ (1,5),\ (5,1),\ (1,6),\ (6,1).$ We can write down the probability of each outcome and add them up to obtain the required result. Note that some of the outcomes have the same probability $($eg:  $\Pr(1,2)=\Pr(2,1)$$\,)$
$\Pr(Y=1)=(0.1\times 0.1)+2(0.1\times 0.2)+2(0.1\times 0.2)+2(0.1\times 0.2)+2(0.1\times 0.2)+2(0.1\times 0.1)=\boxed{0.19\,}$
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#### pugs

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« Reply #18033 on: July 19, 2019, 06:57:50 pm »
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thank you so much redpanda83 and AlphaZero!!!
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« Reply #18034 on: July 21, 2019, 06:44:42 pm »
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dQ/dt = 9e^-0.1t. Show that dQ/dt = (100-Q)/10.

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« Reply #18035 on: July 21, 2019, 10:49:23 pm »
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dQ/dt = 9e^-0.1t. Show that dQ/dt = (100-Q)/10.

Is there more to this question? On its own, you do not have enough to say that $\frac{dQ}{dt}=9e^{-t/10}\implies \frac{dQ}{dt}=\frac{100-Q}{10}.$ From the information given, we have $Q=\int 9e^{-t/10}=-90e^{-t/10}+C,\quad C\in\mathbb{R},$and so if it is the case that $\dfrac{dQ}{dt}=\dfrac{100-Q}{10}$, we would require $C=100$ (check this yourself), but we don't have this information.
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#### pugs

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« Reply #18036 on: July 24, 2019, 09:48:13 am »
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how do you find the period of 2sin(2x) + 3cos(3x), and hence any 'addition of trig function' (with sin & cos) graph?

thanks!!
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#### LachlanKarslake

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« Reply #18037 on: July 24, 2019, 12:03:31 pm »
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how do you find the period of 2sin(2x) + 3cos(3x), and hence any 'addition of trig function' (with sin & cos) graph?

thanks!!

To find the period of a function containing more than one trig term, this is one option:

1. Find the period of each term,
ie. 2sin(2x) is π and 3cos(3x) is 2π/3 (from the period formula 2π/n, sin(nx) or cos(nx))

Converting into degrees will make the lowest common denominator (LCD) calculation easier
2. Convert each result to degrees,
ie. 180° and 120° respectively (from the radian to degree formula 180x/π where x is the radian angle)

Step 3 and 4 is finding the lowest common denominator between the degree angles
3. Decompose each degree angle into its prime parts,
ie.
180 --> 18*10 --> 9*2*5*2 --> 2*2*3*3*5
120 --> 12 * 10 --> 4*3*5*2--> 2*2*2*3*5

4. Group these primes together, removing sequences that contain less of a given number.
ie. 2*2 vs. 2*2*2 (choose 2*2*2 as it contains more 2's)
3 vs. 3*3 (choose 3*3 as it contains more 3's)

The end result will be the group 2*2*2*3*3*5, which equals 360°

Optional: If you are required to have the degrees in radians
5. Convert the degree result back into radians, (using the degree to radian formula πx/180, where x is the degree angle)

6. This result, 2π or 360° is your period of the function: 2sin(2x) + 3cos(3x)

For some intuition, you can think of it like this:
If I count from 1 to 3 and simutanously a buddy counts 4-5. The pattern will repeat (the period) after the 6th count (2*3 from the LCD process)
1 2 3 1 2 3 1
4 5 4 5 4 5 4
This is essentially the same concept.

Hope this helps

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« Reply #18038 on: July 24, 2019, 02:52:15 pm »
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how do you find the period of 2sin(2x) + 3cos(3x), and hence any 'addition of trig function' (with sin & cos) graph?

thanks!!

I believe you don't have to do this without a graph. So, just sketch it in your CAS and simply observe the period.

For your own interest though, to do this by hand, the period of a sum of sinusoidal functions is essentially the lowest common multiple of the periods of the individual functions, provided the resulting function is periodic. For example the function,  $g(x)=\sin(x/3)-\cos(2x)$  has period  $\text{lcm}(6\pi,\,\pi)=6\pi$.

Beware though that it is possible to add sinusoidal functions so that the resulting function is not periodic. For example, take  $f(x)=\sin(\sqrt{2}\,x)+\sin(x)$,  where taking a lowest common multiple really makes no sense since that would imply that $\sqrt{2}\in\mathbb{Q}$, which is obviously absurd.
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#### Srd2000

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« Reply #18039 on: July 27, 2019, 09:38:45 pm »
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Hey, hope everyone's studies are going well!

Quick transformations question; "a function, $f(x)=e^{x}$  undergoes a series of transformations such that it is now equal to $f(x)=e^{-\frac{1}{2}(x-8)}-1$ . List these transformations".

This is my attempt, please explain if and where it is wrong.
Translated 8 units right
Translated 1 unit down
Dilated by 1/2 in the x-axis

Thank you very much!!!

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« Reply #18040 on: July 27, 2019, 11:08:19 pm »
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Hey, hope everyone's studies are going well!

Quick transformations question; "a function, $f(x)=e^{x}$  undergoes a series of transformations such that it is now equal to $f(x)=e^{-\frac{1}{2}(x-8)}-1$ . List these transformations".

This is my attempt, please explain if and where it is wrong.
Translated 8 units right
Translated 1 unit down
Dilated by 1/2 in the x-axis

Thank you very much!!!

I thought you have to follow the DRT order? This is what I got:

1 - Dilate by a factor of 1/2 in the x-axis
2 - Reflected in the y-axis
3 - Translated 4 units units in the negative direction of the x-axis
4 - Translated 1 unit in the positive direction of the y-axis

Not sure if I'm correct but I'd love someone to explain the right way to go about this question too, thanks!
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#### redpanda83

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« Reply #18041 on: July 28, 2019, 12:27:40 am »
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I thought you have to follow the DRT order? This is what I got:

1 - Dilate by a factor of 1/2 in the x-axis
2 - Reflected in the y-axis
3 - Translated 4 units units in the negative direction of the x-axis
4 - Translated 1 unit in the positive direction of the y-axis

Not sure if I'm correct but I'd love someone to explain the right way to go about this question too, thanks!
Yes as you said transformations must be applied in DRT order to achieve the desired result.
1* - Dialation of factor of 2 parallel to x-axis or from the y-axis. (factor of 1/n)
3* - translation of  8 units in the positive direction of x axis. (flip the sign)
4* - translation of 1 unit in the negative direction of y-axis. (u dont flip the sign here)
for your visual check the assignment. As you can see the effect of transformation on the e^x.

#### Srd2000

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« Reply #18042 on: July 28, 2019, 12:32:25 pm »
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Thanks for that! That is making more sense. But what about the reflection in the y-axis?
Shouldn't it be:
Dilation of 2 from y-axis
Reflection in y-axis
Translated 8 units right
Translated 1 unit down

Thank you!
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« Reply #18043 on: July 28, 2019, 12:42:24 pm »
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Thanks for that! That is making more sense. But what about the reflection in the y-axis?
Shouldn't it be:
Dilation of 2 from y-axis
Reflection in y-axis
Translated 8 units right
Translated 1 unit down

Thank you!

Yes you are right. I am pretty sure, using the DRT method for graphs it should be stated as the following.

1. Dilated by a factor of 2. (As redpanda mentioned, a factor of 1/n so 1 divided 1/2 will give 2)
2. Reflected in the y-axis, since the exponent is now the opposite  sign.
3. Translated 8 units to the from left to right (or the positive direction).
4. Translated 1 unit down.

The important thing is, do you understand how we transformed the graph?(like why it is translated 1 unit down, why it is reflected in the y-axis etc.?)

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« Reply #18044 on: July 28, 2019, 03:12:50 pm »
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But what about the reflection in the y-axis?

ye reflection is there, i just fixed the ones that were wrong. hence star next number. :3

The important thing is, do you understand how we transformed the graph?(like why it is translated 1 unit down, why it is reflected in the y-axis etc.?)

I agree, always think back to what is actually happening to the graph. It will start to make much more sense when you do. It doesnt matter what the function look, once you see it (can sketch/visualise it), every question is the same, doesnt matter how hard it is.
Try playing around with your calculator, or even use desmos (online graphing website, pretty good) to see different functions and affect of the transformations.
You can even try to see f(x) = g(x) solutions , and how they are affected by transforming both graphs. Always helped me!