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Title: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 25, 2011, 07:07:17 pm
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Original post
In the interests of being better than Monash, let's have a thread for discussion of our semester/subjects/university in general. Ask for advice, help etc. without having to make a new thread for a minor question! Have a nervous breakdown to the support of your peers! Complain about the horrendous workload that's been dumped on you (I will be doing this!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Watch out, Montrash below~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 25, 2011, 07:24:41 pm
Quote from: Jamison
I BLAME THE MELBOURNE MODEL

That is all.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Thu Thu Train on July 25, 2011, 07:28:20 pm
In the interests of being better than Monash
Pff you can try.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on July 25, 2011, 07:29:42 pm
^ We dont need to.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Thu Thu Train on July 25, 2011, 07:35:15 pm
^ We dont need to.
Of course you do otherwise you wouldn't need this thread.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 25, 2011, 07:37:19 pm
Sorry, can't hear you shouting all the way from Clayton ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Thu Thu Train on July 25, 2011, 07:41:05 pm
I'm not surprised, the city is a noisy place with all those cars and trams going past all the time.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 25, 2011, 07:43:24 pm
Sorry, can't hear you shouting all the way from Clayton ;)

And the massive wind tunnel all around campus.  The message probably got blown all the way to Gippsland.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on July 25, 2011, 08:36:20 pm
^ We dont need to.
Of course you do otherwise you wouldn't need this thread.
Was Russ's sarcasm too subtle?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dekoyl on July 25, 2011, 10:09:33 pm
Hurro, people.

Due to the Melb model, you have to complete the undergrad part (3 years) with an average of at least 65% (for example) to get into the master's program.
If you don't achieve this, does that mean you basically have a half-assed useless degree and you've wasted 3 years?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on July 25, 2011, 10:36:33 pm
Does an H1 (80%+) equal a GPA of 7.0, and an H2A (75%+) equal a GPA of 6.5? I was told by a fellow biomeder that you need to get 85%+ to get a 7.0...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Blakhitman on July 26, 2011, 12:12:01 am
Hurro, people.

Due to the Melb model, you have to complete the undergrad part (3 years) with an average of at least 65% (for example) to get into the master's program.
If you don't achieve this, does that mean you basically have a half-assed useless degree and you've wasted 3 years?


haha I want to know the answer to this too...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on July 26, 2011, 02:19:24 am
Made the mistake of attempting to enter the bookshop at 12pm today.  Reader not in stock despite website claiming otherwise.  Left in the rain with no umbrella.  #unilyf
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 26, 2011, 03:09:37 am
Made the mistake of attempting to enter the bookshop at 12pm today.  Reader not in stock despite website claiming otherwise.  Left in the rain with no umbrella.  #unilyf

I made the mistake of entering the bookshop at this time of the semester.  #unilyf
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 26, 2011, 06:19:53 pm
I went on Saturday and there was nobody there #winning
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on July 26, 2011, 06:24:14 pm
Anyone know the answer to my question above? Russ maybe? :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 26, 2011, 06:27:08 pm
My answer was lost when the server died. It depends on the university you go to, at UoM an 80 is a 7.0 and a 75 is a 6.5
The ACER handbook has a full listing of different unis etc.

@Dekoyl, the 65 is for a guaranteed spot afaik, you can still apply without a 65 average
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: schmalex on July 26, 2011, 09:44:00 pm
I went to the bookstore before uni started, because I'm just that keen.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on July 28, 2011, 01:30:18 am
So did I!  But yeah, I finally got it today.  No queue either.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 28, 2011, 05:47:45 pm
Just came out of microbiology prac, don't know how I'm going to survive the rest of semester lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: qshyrn on July 29, 2011, 10:15:54 pm
im in first year is doing a lvl 2 unibreadth allowed?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on July 30, 2011, 12:04:18 am
Sigh.

Fourth year engineering is scary.
Design Project is currently doing my head in. Eek.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 30, 2011, 08:55:05 am
im in first year is doing a lvl 2 unibreadth allowed?

Yes, as long as it doesn't have prereqs
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 04, 2011, 11:15:24 am
1. I hate the portal and how many times I have to refresh to load the links for LMS
2. I have now missed 2 weeks of uni lol with the exception of my psych lab
3. im doing choir as a breadth hahah not wasting my arts degree at all
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 04, 2011, 11:47:33 am
Access the LMS directly. Only thing I ever use portal for is exam results and timetabling
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 04, 2011, 06:13:34 pm
1. I hate the portal and how many times I have to refresh to load the links for LMS
2. I have now missed 2 weeks of uni lol with the exception of my psych lab
3. im doing choir as a breadth hahah not wasting my arts degree at all
I would do choir if I could even remotely create a sound that resembled singing
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 05, 2011, 12:40:21 am
i cant sing at all but after missing 10 hours worth of my breadth and seeing how much homework i have already i decided to go with a lovely 2 hour singing ensemble with no lectures and assignments about choir performances. lol.

So yeah, anyone think i'll be too disadvantaged for missing 1 week of tutes?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 06, 2011, 11:51:43 pm
People from my high school took choir last year.  And they failed.  It's a P/F subject, how do you fail?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 07, 2011, 04:38:47 pm
People from my high school took choir last year.  And they failed.  It's a P/F subject, how do you fail?

Apparently by:

Quote from:  Handbook
Less than 80% attendance will result in a fail. All assessment components must be passed in order to pass the subject.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 07, 2011, 04:54:34 pm
Is it just me? Or is the g-mail university e-mail down =(?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on August 07, 2011, 04:55:15 pm
Hey. Just out of curiosity, how do we find out what our WAM is? (can we get it for only one semester?)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 07, 2011, 04:59:34 pm
Is it just me? Or is the g-mail university e-mail down =(?

Yeah it is. So is the library authentication server for research databases, which is playing havoc with assignments :(

Quote

Hey. Just out of curiosity, how do we find out what our WAM is? (can we get it for only one semester?)

Your WAM? Just average your subject marks. You're only in first year so there's nothing "weighted" yet.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 07, 2011, 05:20:10 pm
People from my high school took choir last year.  And they failed.  It's a P/F subject, how do you fail?

Not rocking up to rehearsals (they take attendance at the start; I usually marked my name off then snuck out), or passing the concert reports (unless that's changed).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 07, 2011, 05:24:09 pm
From my understanding, Pass/Fail subjects are not counted towards GPA. However does that mean, that this may muck up GPA calculations a bit as you'd be technically one subject short of what your supposed to have had you done a normal 'marked' subject?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 07, 2011, 06:22:30 pm
I think they just increase individual subject weighting in a GPA year,

normally its 12.5 points so 8 subjects make up 100 points,

so were one subject is P/F, each would be ~14.3 to reach 100,

Im not sure though
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 07, 2011, 06:41:37 pm
I guess that would make sense. Might consider taking one next year as breadth if all goes well this semester and if thats the case.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 07, 2011, 06:53:11 pm
P/F in 3rd year might be dangerous, if you only do 4 subjects in semester 1 and one is P/F, each subject is worth a third of GPA3, so 33.33 points (each subject worth 16.7% overall) (3*16.7=50), providing that youve only completed 3 marked subjects in your last gpa year that is.

EDIT: Im only including semester 1 in calculations because sem2 not released until after applications
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 07, 2011, 08:53:22 pm
re: choir I hope I can get the attendance if I've already missed the first two ensembles :\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 07, 2011, 10:43:48 pm
Pretty sure it would be 80% attendance required?  Or 85%.  Either way if it has ensembles every week you should be fine as long as you don't miss another one.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 09, 2011, 04:49:58 pm
how do i find out if a subject runs over Summer? dont want to do choir, id rather do 3 subjects this semester and one over the summer like biology which i actually want to do

lack of punctuation because im bad moody that it took me 20 minutes to find the entrance to the library and some girl took extra copies of sheet music so i have none and im sick and couldnt get the wireless to work and now im late for choir and just dont even want to do it -_______-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on August 09, 2011, 05:01:07 pm
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/search/AdvancedSearch.jsp
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on August 09, 2011, 05:04:30 pm
They are released in Oct (http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/summer_subjects) but by the look of the current handbook Bio is a no-go which is a shame because I really want to do it (or any of my subjects) over the summer.

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 09, 2011, 06:46:04 pm
I recommend EVSC20003 Forests in a Global Context, Im doing it during this semesters break
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 09, 2011, 07:48:14 pm
I think im going to stick it out with Choir.... so frustrating they dont have any sheet music for me though (and have no idea whether they'll be ordering in more), how am i supposed to sing? -____-

Also, has anyone noticed how excruciatingly hot all the buildings/lecture theatres are at Melb? Made me feel so sick but maybe i'm the only one who can't tolerate it ;P wow i'm allllllll whinge today give me Monash inadequate heating any day haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 09, 2011, 08:00:11 pm
I think im going to stick it out with Choir.... so frustrating they dont have any sheet music for me though (and have no idea whether they'll be ordering in more), how am i supposed to sing? -____-

Also, has anyone noticed how excruciatingly hot all the buildings/lecture theatres are at Melb? Made me feel so sick but maybe i'm the only one who can't tolerate it ;P wow i'm allllllll whinge today give me Monash inadequate heating any day haha

I think its just an arts thing. Commerce and Science tend to be put into lectures that have 'comfortable' temperature regulation :P

I recommend EVSC20003 Forests in a Global Context, Im doing it during this semesters break

how can you recommend it if you havn't even done it yet? It could be the hardest thing ever :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 09, 2011, 08:21:00 pm
how can you recommend it if you havn't even done it yet? It could be the hardest thing ever :P

Because this is the entire assessment:


•   questions 1-4
1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?
 
2. Explain the role that forests had in both the rise and fall of civilisations of the past.
 
3. Explain the reasons that net deforestation ceased in Europe in the 19th century and USA in the 20th century.
 
4. The availability of water to plants depends on more than just rainfall. Explain.
•   
 Questions 5 - 8
5 What are the characteristics of (a) tropical rainforest and (b) a temperate oceanic forest?
 
6. Explain how it is that mangroves can persist in an anoxic and saline environment.
 
7. Is the rate of deforestation increasing or decreasing? Which continent has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country reports the greatest annual increase in forest area? Which country has the greatest harvest of timber? Which continent has the greatest proportion of fuelwood in its harvest? Which Australian forest type has the greatest proportion in reserves?
 
8. Explain what is meant by shifting agriculture and how this may cause deforestation.
•   
 Questions 9 - 12
Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
 
9. What role does logging in tropical forests play in deforestation? Explain how sustainable management of tropical forests for services including wood production can help to save the forests from being cleared for agriculture.
 
10. What is the transitional argument?
 
11. Explain the reasons why forest evapotranspires more water and therefore yields less water to streams and groundwater than does grassland. Elaborate on a case study in Australia looking at the impacts of forests on streamflow.
 
12. Under what circumstances are forests effective in controlling soil erosion. Use the universal soil loss equation to describe the best and worst situations for causing erosion by water. Provide an Australian example where wildfire caused a serious erosion with subsequent deterioration in drinking water quality.
 
 
•   
 Questions 13 - 16
13. What is an exotic? Provide examples of exotics with negative and positive effects
 
14. Give reasons why biodiversity should be protected.
 
15. Explain the argument that wood is an environmentally superior building material than its competitors.
 
16. What are the key anatomical features of wood and how do conifers and non-conifers differ in their anatomies?
 
•   
 Questions 17 - 20
17. Compare and discuss the arguments for and against human activities being the main cause of current global warming
 
18. Explain the greenhouse effect.
 
19. What role can the good or poor management of forests play in accelerating or decelerating global warming?
 
20. Discuss REDD.  Why is this controversial?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 09, 2011, 10:56:34 pm

how can you recommend it if you havn't even done it yet? It could be the hardest thing ever :P

Because this is the entire assessment:


•   questions 1-4
1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?
 
2. Explain the role that forests had in both the rise and fall of civilisations of the past.
 
3. Explain the reasons that net deforestation ceased in Europe in the 19th century and USA in the 20th century.
 
4. The availability of water to plants depends on more than just rainfall. Explain.
•   
 Questions 5 - 8
5 What are the characteristics of (a) tropical rainforest and (b) a temperate oceanic forest?
 
6. Explain how it is that mangroves can persist in an anoxic and saline environment.
 
7. Is the rate of deforestation increasing or decreasing? Which continent has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country reports the greatest annual increase in forest area? Which country has the greatest harvest of timber? Which continent has the greatest proportion of fuelwood in its harvest? Which Australian forest type has the greatest proportion in reserves?
 
8. Explain what is meant by shifting agriculture and how this may cause deforestation.
•   
 Questions 9 - 12
Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
 
9. What role does logging in tropical forests play in deforestation? Explain how sustainable management of tropical forests for services including wood production can help to save the forests from being cleared for agriculture.
 
10. What is the transitional argument?
 
11. Explain the reasons why forest evapotranspires more water and therefore yields less water to streams and groundwater than does grassland. Elaborate on a case study in Australia looking at the impacts of forests on streamflow.
 
12. Under what circumstances are forests effective in controlling soil erosion. Use the universal soil loss equation to describe the best and worst situations for causing erosion by water. Provide an Australian example where wildfire caused a serious erosion with subsequent deterioration in drinking water quality.
 
 
•   
 Questions 13 - 16
13. What is an exotic? Provide examples of exotics with negative and positive effects
 
14. Give reasons why biodiversity should be protected.
 
15. Explain the argument that wood is an environmentally superior building material than its competitors.
 
16. What are the key anatomical features of wood and how do conifers and non-conifers differ in their anatomies?
 
•   
 Questions 17 - 20
17. Compare and discuss the arguments for and against human activities being the main cause of current global warming
 
18. Explain the greenhouse effect.
 
19. What role can the good or poor management of forests play in accelerating or decelerating global warming?
 
20. Discuss REDD.  Why is this controversial?


Oh wow, excellent !!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 09, 2011, 11:16:12 pm
Sorry guys, I felt compelled to fix the quotes.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 10, 2011, 08:28:24 am
Why are there assessment questions floating around before the subject has set them?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 10, 2011, 09:25:24 am
Why are there assessment questions floating around before the subject has set them?
It may or not be last years and it may or not be used this year, nonetheless it will be the same format and similar questions
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 10, 2011, 03:43:06 pm
looks like one week's homework in year 11 bio or something :\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on August 10, 2011, 06:11:13 pm
I've been told they mark the answers really strictly so you have to pay close attention to the lectures and tutorials. Not as easy as you think!!! :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 10, 2011, 07:47:59 pm
I've been told they mark the answers really strictly so you have to pay close attention to the lectures and tutorials. Not as easy as you think!!! :P
whats the H1(%) prevalence?

Also, anyone know the census date for the subject?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 11, 2011, 01:18:06 am
"1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?"

IDK GUYS, THAT SOUNDS P. COMPLEX TO ME.  Like, I could write a 3000 wrd on that one alone.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 11, 2011, 01:34:35 am
"1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?"

IDK GUYS, THAT SOUNDS P. COMPLEX TO ME.  Like, I could write a 3000 wrd on that one alone.


If only you coulda done the subject - easy H1 sister!  :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 11, 2011, 01:02:03 pm
"1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?"

IDK GUYS, THAT SOUNDS P. COMPLEX TO ME.  Like, I could write a 3000 wrd on that one alone.


If only you coulda done the subject - easy H1 sister!  :P

Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 11, 2011, 01:42:19 pm
anyone have any experience with showing up to a tute you're not allocated to because you missed yours for the week? will they let me stay? #sobehindineverything
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 11, 2011, 04:01:00 pm
nobody will care unless the tute is overfull
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 11, 2011, 06:59:29 pm
"1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?"

IDK GUYS, THAT SOUNDS P. COMPLEX TO ME.  Like, I could write a 3000 wrd on that one alone.


If only you coulda done the subject - easy H1 sister!  :P

Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
"Please not much more" I dont think it will be much harder than I think :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 11, 2011, 07:02:27 pm
anyone have any experience with showing up to a tute you're not allocated to because you missed yours for the week? will they let me stay? #sobehindineverything

From experience, if the tutor is observant and they notice a "new face" they'll probably ask questions.  But if the tute isn't full, then they'll most likely let you stay.  But if attendance is marked and part of your overall mark, then they'll just go on about how they can't mark you off the list and you have to bring a form in for them to sign... and all that jazz.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on August 11, 2011, 07:26:38 pm
My tutor was nice enough about it but said if the class gets fuller I won't be able to stay in it. He's such a good tutor as well, I'm scared to go to my allocated tutorial in case the other tutor isn't as good.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 12, 2011, 06:53:48 pm
How are people finding BIOL10005? I think last semester was easier.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: happyhappyland on August 12, 2011, 08:50:04 pm
How are people finding BIOL10005? I think last semester was easier.

super easy. i did vce bio
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 12, 2011, 11:08:03 pm
How are people finding BIOL10005? I think last semester was easier.

Last semester was easier whether you did VCE Biology or not.  But it was the same for U4 v. U3 which is pretty much what the course set up mirrors.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on August 16, 2011, 09:43:19 pm
how can you recommend it if you havn't even done it yet? It could be the hardest thing ever :P

Because this is the entire assessment:


•   questions 1-4
1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?
 
2. Explain the role that forests had in both the rise and fall of civilisations of the past.
 
3. Explain the reasons that net deforestation ceased in Europe in the 19th century and USA in the 20th century.
 
4. The availability of water to plants depends on more than just rainfall. Explain.
•   
 Questions 5 - 8
5 What are the characteristics of (a) tropical rainforest and (b) a temperate oceanic forest?
 
6. Explain how it is that mangroves can persist in an anoxic and saline environment.
 
7. Is the rate of deforestation increasing or decreasing? Which continent has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country reports the greatest annual increase in forest area? Which country has the greatest harvest of timber? Which continent has the greatest proportion of fuelwood in its harvest? Which Australian forest type has the greatest proportion in reserves?
 
8. Explain what is meant by shifting agriculture and how this may cause deforestation.
•   
 Questions 9 - 12
Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
 
9. What role does logging in tropical forests play in deforestation? Explain how sustainable management of tropical forests for services including wood production can help to save the forests from being cleared for agriculture.
 
10. What is the transitional argument?
 
11. Explain the reasons why forest evapotranspires more water and therefore yields less water to streams and groundwater than does grassland. Elaborate on a case study in Australia looking at the impacts of forests on streamflow.
 
12. Under what circumstances are forests effective in controlling soil erosion. Use the universal soil loss equation to describe the best and worst situations for causing erosion by water. Provide an Australian example where wildfire caused a serious erosion with subsequent deterioration in drinking water quality.
 
 
•   
 Questions 13 - 16
13. What is an exotic? Provide examples of exotics with negative and positive effects
 
14. Give reasons why biodiversity should be protected.
 
15. Explain the argument that wood is an environmentally superior building material than its competitors.
 
16. What are the key anatomical features of wood and how do conifers and non-conifers differ in their anatomies?
 
•   
 Questions 17 - 20
17. Compare and discuss the arguments for and against human activities being the main cause of current global warming
 
18. Explain the greenhouse effect.
 
19. What role can the good or poor management of forests play in accelerating or decelerating global warming?
 
20. Discuss REDD.  Why is this controversial?


Just for anyone interested. It says on the LMS that this year's questions will not be the same as the 2010 questions.

Here's some more info:

This is an intensive 6-day course held over the period 19th to 24th September 2011. (Please note that this period is advanced by one day from the dates posted in the handbook). The first 5 days (Monday September 19th to Friday September 23rd) will be lectures and tutorials and the final day (Saturday 24th September) will be a field day. The field day is a part of the course. It will be free of cost and not assessed. Watch for further announcements on specific details of the field trip.

The lectures will commence at 8.30am and conclude at 1pm and tutorials commence at 2pm and conclude at 6pm on each day. During the tutorials you will be assessed on the lectures of the morning of that day. On each day, four questions will be asked and you will be required to submit your answers via turnitin over LMS. The answers to each question will be based on material given in the lectures and supplemented by the text (Sands, R. 2005. Forestry in a Global Context, CABI) and any other resources you may scavenge. The answer to each question should be approximately 150 – 200 words. All answers are of equal value, each being 5% of the total assessment (5x4=20 questions in all). There will be ample time within the four hours in the afternoon to complete and submit these answers. You are encouraged to do so although answers will still be accepted up until Friday 30th September (one week after completion of the lecture course). The questions for the day will be placed on LMS immediately following the lectures of the day. Computer labs will be available for the afternoons and staff will be available to answer any queries you may have. However, we encourage you to bring your own computer for use in the student learning spaces that we have booked for the tutorials. This will give you greater control over your access to web resources and to submission via the LMS.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 17, 2011, 10:19:57 am
^ I see you've enrolled  :D,

8:30 everyday though..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on August 17, 2011, 12:56:47 pm
Okay, so I have a bit of an issue. I am worried about a marketing group assignment because most of the people in my tute aren't up to the same level of English as I am and I find myself having to repeat myself and explaining concepts they can't quite grasp straight away. In marking our assignment, would any of this be taken into account? I don't want to be disadvantaged because of group members.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 17, 2011, 01:42:22 pm
Talk to your tutor privately about it, I've done it before.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on August 17, 2011, 02:24:00 pm
Thanks, Russ. It's an awkward topic to discuss. I don't want to seem rude or judgemental, it's not a personal issue whatsoever - just an issue of marks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Kopite on August 17, 2011, 03:35:11 pm
Okay, so I have a bit of an issue. I am worried about a marketing group assignment because most of the people in my tute aren't up to the same level of English as I am and I find myself having to repeat myself and explaining concepts they can't quite grasp straight away. In marking our assignment, would any of this be taken into account? I don't want to be disadvantaged because of group members.

if your tutor doesnt care, go to your lecturer/course co-ordinator. should be some kind of peer assessment.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on August 17, 2011, 06:49:25 pm
Okay, so I have a bit of an issue. I am worried about a marketing group assignment because most of the people in my tute aren't up to the same level of English as I am and I find myself having to repeat myself and explaining concepts they can't quite grasp straight away. In marking our assignment, would any of this be taken into account? I don't want to be disadvantaged because of group members.

I was actually in the exact same position in marketing last year, except my tutor was away at the time.  When I brought it up a bit later, she was more than happy to talk to me about it and if needed give people different marks.  So although it's stressful, try to relax because there are ways to deal with these issues.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: qshyrn on August 17, 2011, 08:30:41 pm
how can you recommend it if you havn't even done it yet? It could be the hardest thing ever :P

Because this is the entire assessment:


•   questions 1-4
1. What is the relationship between the development of grasslands and the development of the human race?
 
2. Explain the role that forests had in both the rise and fall of civilisations of the past.
 
3. Explain the reasons that net deforestation ceased in Europe in the 19th century and USA in the 20th century.
 
4. The availability of water to plants depends on more than just rainfall. Explain.
•   
 Questions 5 - 8
5 What are the characteristics of (a) tropical rainforest and (b) a temperate oceanic forest?
 
6. Explain how it is that mangroves can persist in an anoxic and saline environment.
 
7. Is the rate of deforestation increasing or decreasing? Which continent has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country has the greatest amount of annual deforestation? Which country reports the greatest annual increase in forest area? Which country has the greatest harvest of timber? Which continent has the greatest proportion of fuelwood in its harvest? Which Australian forest type has the greatest proportion in reserves?
 
8. Explain what is meant by shifting agriculture and how this may cause deforestation.
•   
 Questions 9 - 12
Several of you have said that the 150 words guideline is insufficient to provide the answer. You may go to 200 - 250 words but please not much more.
 
9. What role does logging in tropical forests play in deforestation? Explain how sustainable management of tropical forests for services including wood production can help to save the forests from being cleared for agriculture.
 
10. What is the transitional argument?
 
11. Explain the reasons why forest evapotranspires more water and therefore yields less water to streams and groundwater than does grassland. Elaborate on a case study in Australia looking at the impacts of forests on streamflow.
 
12. Under what circumstances are forests effective in controlling soil erosion. Use the universal soil loss equation to describe the best and worst situations for causing erosion by water. Provide an Australian example where wildfire caused a serious erosion with subsequent deterioration in drinking water quality.
 
 
•   
 Questions 13 - 16
13. What is an exotic? Provide examples of exotics with negative and positive effects
 
14. Give reasons why biodiversity should be protected.
 
15. Explain the argument that wood is an environmentally superior building material than its competitors.
 
16. What are the key anatomical features of wood and how do conifers and non-conifers differ in their anatomies?
 
•   
 Questions 17 - 20
17. Compare and discuss the arguments for and against human activities being the main cause of current global warming
 
18. Explain the greenhouse effect.
 
19. What role can the good or poor management of forests play in accelerating or decelerating global warming?
 
20. Discuss REDD.  Why is this controversial?


Just for anyone interested. It says on the LMS that this year's questions will not be the same as the 2010 questions.

Here's some more info:

This is an intensive 6-day course held over the period 19th to 24th September 2011. (Please note that this period is advanced by one day from the dates posted in the handbook). The first 5 days (Monday September 19th to Friday September 23rd) will be lectures and tutorials and the final day (Saturday 24th September) will be a field day. The field day is a part of the course. It will be free of cost and not assessed. Watch for further announcements on specific details of the field trip.

The lectures will commence at 8.30am and conclude at 1pm and tutorials commence at 2pm and conclude at 6pm on each day. During the tutorials you will be assessed on the lectures of the morning of that day. On each day, four questions will be asked and you will be required to submit your answers via turnitin over LMS. The answers to each question will be based on material given in the lectures and supplemented by the text (Sands, R. 2005. Forestry in a Global Context, CABI) and any other resources you may scavenge. The answer to each question should be approximately 150 – 200 words. All answers are of equal value, each being 5% of the total assessment (5x4=20 questions in all). There will be ample time within the four hours in the afternoon to complete and submit these answers. You are encouraged to do so although answers will still be accepted up until Friday 30th September (one week after completion of the lecture course). The questions for the day will be placed on LMS immediately following the lectures of the day. Computer labs will be available for the afternoons and staff will be available to answer any queries you may have. However, we encourage you to bring your own computer for use in the student learning spaces that we have booked for the tutorials. This will give you greater control over your access to web resources and to submission via the LMS.
whens the latest we can enrol in this subject?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on August 17, 2011, 10:19:40 pm
Okay, so I have a bit of an issue. I am worried about a marketing group assignment because most of the people in my tute aren't up to the same level of English as I am and I find myself having to repeat myself and explaining concepts they can't quite grasp straight away. In marking our assignment, would any of this be taken into account? I don't want to be disadvantaged because of group members.
LOL awkward if you're in my tute :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on August 17, 2011, 11:14:28 pm
Phew, thanks for advice, guys! I feel a little more optimistic about my situation now.
Slumdawg, very awks! haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 19, 2011, 12:05:26 am
BIOL10005 people: For E-fly, the bit with the table, how exactly do they want us to do it?  Like, the program asks you to copy and paste it into excel and then the word template is like 'paste your data below'.  So do they want us to /make/ a table in excel, and then copy and paste that into the word template or just screencap it and paste in a picture (like I did, because I am lazy, but it's really small)?  Or do they want to paste it in directly from the program so it's not aligned properly?  Failed instructions, or I didn't read it well enough.

I didn't think this rendered an actual thread.  I'd ask my friends this question, but none of them have started as they are normal, but I want to get rid of this so I can work on my lab report for another subject.  Also I ceebs walking to Redmond Barry from the other side of campus on the day it's actually due.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 19, 2011, 08:46:01 am
I think that any presentation, as long as it's readable and makes sense, will be fine. This isn't a referencing or layout assignment, they won't get too upset over a picture vs. a table
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 19, 2011, 04:04:17 pm
BIOL10005 people: For E-fly, the bit with the table, how exactly do they want us to do it?  Like, the program asks you to copy and paste it into excel and then the word template is like 'paste your data below'.  So do they want us to /make/ a table in excel, and then copy and paste that into the word template or just screencap it and paste in a picture (like I did, because I am lazy, but it's really small)?  Or do they want to paste it in directly from the program so it's not aligned properly?  Failed instructions, or I didn't read it well enough.

I didn't think this rendered an actual thread.  I'd ask my friends this question, but none of them have started as they are normal, but I want to get rid of this so I can work on my lab report for another subject.  Also I ceebs walking to Redmond Barry from the other side of campus on the day it's actually due.
Think they would accept it to just be copied and pasted? From the program to word?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 19, 2011, 10:05:02 pm
OMFG!!
_
Today i had the worst Metro debarkle EVER!!! I usually go to university by train (edit: SYDENHAM line REPRESZENTZSZ!!! 8)) and touch on with my myki. When I am on negative balance, i usually just put enough money so that I am above 0 and can touch on again. Today i touched off at North Melbourne station, not thinking too much that because i had just touched off and was now on a negative balance that i was actually going to commit the "Metro Offence" of fare evading. LIKE FFS!!!! So I get onto the 401 bus unbeknownst to the fact that I was going to get the biggest grilling by those metro ticket inspectors.

They asked me why I didn't have a positive balance on my myki. I replied by saying well the 401 bus myki contraptions that you got going here 9 times out of 10 don't work so i didn't think too much of it because i'm going to go home later today and you'll get the rest of my fees for the daily ticket when i touch on, on the way home. They replied by, well that's not a good enough excuse (which I personally thought was the most well-constructed answer to that question that anyone could give, but anyway) that you knew that you didn't have enough funds but you still decided to hop onto the bus anyway. Man at this point i was like so worried that my wallet would get burned that I decided to just play along with this dimwit and autonomously nod my head at everything that he said. I was so humiliated in front of a bus full of people and will probably from this day be the kid who got "OWNED" by metro.

He then had the audacity to say well i'm going to give you the "benefit of the doubt" because you look like a smart kid because you go to university. F***!! metro FFS !!!

So the moral of this story is, make sure you have a positive myki balance even if you are close to 100% sure that the myki machines on those 401 buses will probably not work, because that's fare evading guys.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on August 19, 2011, 10:34:20 pm
OMFG!!

Today i had the worst Metro debarkle EVER!!! I usually go to university by train and touch on with my myki. When I am on negative balance, i usually just put enough money so that I am above 0 and can touch on again. Today i touched off at North Melbourne station, not thinking too much that because i had just touched off and was now on a negative balance that i was actually going to commit the "Metro Offence" of fare evading. LIKE FFS!!!! So I get onto the 401 bus unbeknownst to the fact that I was going to get the biggest grilling by those metro ticket inspectors.

They asked me why I didn't have a positive balance on my myki. I replied by saying well the 401 bus myki contraptions that you got going here 9 times out of 10 don't work so i didn't think too much of it because i'm going to go home later today and you'll get the rest of my fees for the daily ticket when i touch on, on the way home. They replied by, well that's not a good enough excuse (which I personally thought was the most well-constructed answer to that question that anyone could give, but anyway) that you knew that you didn't have enough funds but you still decided to hop onto the bus anyway. Man at this point i was like so worried that my wallet would get burned that I decided to just play along with this dimwit and autonomously nod my head at everything that he said. I was so humiliated in front of a bus full of people and will probably from this day be the kid who got "OWNED" by metro.

He then had the audacity to say well i'm going to give you the "benefit of the doubt" because you look like a smart kid because you go to university. F***!! metro FFS !!!

So the moral of this story is, make sure you have a positive myki balance even if you are close to 100% sure that the myki machines on those 401 buses will probably not work, because that's fare evading guys.
:O, what time was this? there never seems to be any ticket inspectors when im on the earlier 401 bus.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 19, 2011, 10:38:28 pm
at about 11 oclock,

they're usually not there when its like peak hour uni times at about 9-10. But those who are blessed with  lovely 10-11am starts should be cautious.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on August 19, 2011, 11:26:56 pm
OMFG!!
_
Today i had the worst Metro debarkle EVER!!! I usually go to university by train (edit: SYDENHAM line REPRESZENTZSZ!!! 8)) and touch on with my myki. When I am on negative balance, i usually just put enough money so that I am above 0 and can touch on again. Today i touched off at North Melbourne station, not thinking too much that because i had just touched off and was now on a negative balance that i was actually going to commit the "Metro Offence" of fare evading. LIKE FFS!!!! So I get onto the 401 bus unbeknownst to the fact that I was going to get the biggest grilling by those metro ticket inspectors.

They asked me why I didn't have a positive balance on my myki. I replied by saying well the 401 bus myki contraptions that you got going here 9 times out of 10 don't work so i didn't think too much of it because i'm going to go home later today and you'll get the rest of my fees for the daily ticket when i touch on, on the way home. They replied by, well that's not a good enough excuse (which I personally thought was the most well-constructed answer to that question that anyone could give, but anyway) that you knew that you didn't have enough funds but you still decided to hop onto the bus anyway. Man at this point i was like so worried that my wallet would get burned that I decided to just play along with this dimwit and autonomously nod my head at everything that he said. I was so humiliated in front of a bus full of people and will probably from this day be the kid who got "OWNED" by metro.

He then had the audacity to say well i'm going to give you the "benefit of the doubt" because you look like a smart kid because you go to university. F***!! metro FFS !!!

So the moral of this story is, make sure you have a positive myki balance even if you are close to 100% sure that the myki machines on those 401 buses will probably not work, because that's fare evading guys.

Mate, you wanna talk metro being a bunch of dickwads, i guarantee you it's a shitload worse when you actually get a fine, and not, not for not having a ticket which i did-i always pay for my ticket 100% of the time- but for having my feet on the seats, and not my whole two feet on the seats, but having my brand new, perfectly clean shoes on the edge of the seat. Three inspectors decide they will come up to me and have a go at me while i sit there not sure if i can even get fined for this but sure enough i can. Get slapped with a $178 fine, the exact same fine as if i didn't even have a ticket. No warning, nothing, i didn't even know you could get fined for having you feet on the seats. How is feet on seats as bad as fare evading?

$178 lesson learned: ticket inspectors are a bunch of wannabe cops on a power trip, and now i stand on public transport

Also i have seen ticket inspects waiting at the bus stop at uni before checking tickets when people get off the bus....
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Elnino_Gerrard on August 20, 2011, 04:40:54 am
Well that was a shite physics test. Never done one online before. Never knew once click submit on an answer  you wouldnt be allowed to change  it at all. That stuffed me up in a whole question cause i only realised after i made a stupid error. :/.(rushed through this q cause i wanted to get to the last question which was a derivation and only "locked it in" incase time elapsed). Anyway they dint even give us the value of the constant epselon not :/ :@..so i wasted a 1 minut there looking it up on google :/..Ridixulous :/ couldve got a 100 dropped to like 56 i guess
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 20, 2011, 09:06:29 am
So the moral of this story is, make sure you have a positive myki balance even if you are close to 100% sure that the myki machines on those 401 buses will probably not work, because that's fare evading guys.

This is completely true, even without the sarcasm. Sorry, but if you're going to travel on public transport then you need to have money on your card right then, not 6 hours later.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 20, 2011, 12:52:29 pm
So thankful for the Ventura/National Bus companies.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 20, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
Think they would accept it to just be copied and pasted? From the program to word?

You would think this but then they're all out of whack so you can't read them.  I think I will just keep my shitty screencaps.

PS: That's why I don't use myki.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 20, 2011, 02:29:10 pm
So the moral of this story is, make sure you have a positive myki balance even if you are close to 100% sure that the myki machines on those 401 buses will probably not work, because that's fare evading guys.

This is completely true, even without the sarcasm. Sorry, but if you're going to travel on public transport then you need to have money on your card right then, not 6 hours later.

Well i don't dispute that, but given the circumstances that the myki machines hardly ever works (not exaggerating, like it literally never works..) when I go onto the 401 buses. I would think that my frustrations towards the matter would be understandable that after a while people would stop gauging their funds and making sure that they've added enough money to make their balance positive. In my opinion, having paid for my train ride from home to uni I do believe in my eyes that it does carry over for the bus ride as well as its within the two hours and had I had positive funds, it wouldn't effect my funds anyway. So technically i don't think that's fare evading (in my eyes). I mean I'm happy to touch on and off even if its meaningless in the end, but if they are going to enforce the act of touching on and off on the 401 buses then they themselves should ensure that those machines are operational. That's all i'm saying. And i think having checked that i had touched off for the train, that they knew, that there was merit in my argument, that's why they didn't give me a fine, even though they very well could of.

Then why don't I use metcards? Because it works out cheaper with myki.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 20, 2011, 03:11:54 pm
Just buy a yearly, you dont have to touch on/off, much more convenient.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 20, 2011, 03:16:06 pm
Just buy a yearly, you dont have to touch on/off, much more convenient.

No, because i don't go to university everyday and I am moving out to my city apartment soon also. That's why i use mykis.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 20, 2011, 03:31:58 pm
Mmm Ive thought of that, whats the rent like?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 20, 2011, 03:34:42 pm
Mmm Ive thought of that, whats the rent like?

My parents bought the apartment for me. So no rent =)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 20, 2011, 04:51:51 pm
Just buy a yearly, you dont have to touch on/off, much more convenient.

For tertiary students, a yearly is definitely not worth it at all.

Even when I use myki, a monthly isn't even worth it and I go to uni 5 days a week.  Myki money ftw!

A monthly costs like $77.84 whereas $50 will last me a whole month travelling from zone 1&2.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 20, 2011, 07:04:45 pm
How much would you estimate the cost of 2 hours travel per day 5 days a week for a month to be?

EDIT: Zone 1
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on August 20, 2011, 08:45:44 pm
http://www.myki.com.au/Fares/Metro-fares/myki-metro-fare-calculators/default.aspx

that's a pretty handy way to compare pass/myki money
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 20, 2011, 08:55:03 pm
And I'm lovin' the defective myki validating machines on Ventura/National Buses.

Why?  Free ride!  W00T W00T
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 21, 2011, 12:16:27 am
5 x daily.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 21, 2011, 08:12:24 am
5 x daily.

10x 2 hourly is strictly better
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on August 21, 2011, 09:26:50 am
Just buy a yearly, you dont have to touch on/off, much more convenient.

For tertiary students, a yearly is definitely not worth it at all.

Even when I use myki, a monthly isn't even worth it and I go to uni 5 days a week.  Myki money ftw!

A monthly costs like $77.84 whereas $50 will last me a whole month travelling from zone 1&2.

A monthly actually doesn't cost that much. I go to uni 5 days a week (like most others...) and you're actually paying more by using myki money, rather than doing a myki pass.

Source: Me working out the costs on 5+ different occasions. Oh and this: http://www.myki.com.au/Fares/Metro-fares/myki-metro-fare-calculators/default.aspx
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on August 21, 2011, 01:45:37 pm
hey guys, i have two questions,

1) How do you calculate your GPA?

2) How long does it take to get an academic transcript? The website was rather vague it just said a "short" waiting period for applications in person...

Cheers :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 21, 2011, 02:25:27 pm
Which GPA format?

Go to the admin office, takes ~5 minutes
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on August 21, 2011, 04:35:55 pm
Which GPA format?

Go to the admin office, takes ~5 minutes

no idea, i just gave them my average marks anyway haha, and really? for them to print it out and everything? sweet

also, finally, if i want to scan something (i.e. the transcript) where is the best place to go do that?

also are there a few standard ways to calculate GPA? or does each institution have a different calculation method?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 21, 2011, 05:05:14 pm
What do you want to use it for, cos there are a bunch of different mechanisms. Some programs just average all your marks. Some convert to a 7 (or 4) point scale. Some average just one year of marks. Some let you remove your two worst subjects etc.

If you want to scan your transcript, be aware that some places won't accept it, you'll need to get a certified copy and then scan that. Annoying, I know.

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 21, 2011, 05:40:48 pm
Just buy a yearly, you dont have to touch on/off, much more convenient.

For tertiary students, a yearly is definitely not worth it at all.

Even when I use myki, a monthly isn't even worth it and I go to uni 5 days a week.  Myki money ftw!

A monthly costs like $77.84 whereas $50 will last me a whole month travelling from zone 1&2.

A monthly actually doesn't cost that much. I go to uni 5 days a week (like most others...) and you're actually paying more by using myki money, rather than doing a myki pass.

Source: Me working out the costs on 5+ different occasions. Oh and this: http://www.myki.com.au/Fares/Metro-fares/myki-metro-fare-calculators/default.aspx


How much do you pay for a monthly?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on August 21, 2011, 06:06:20 pm
What do you want to use it for, cos there are a bunch of different mechanisms. Some programs just average all your marks. Some convert to a 7 (or 4) point scale. Some average just one year of marks. Some let you remove your two worst subjects etc.

If you want to scan your transcript, be aware that some places won't accept it, you'll need to get a certified copy and then scan that. Annoying, I know.



i'm scanning to attach it to a online application... what if i just scan it by myself somewhere on campus? surely there's a scanner somewhere on campus... Is there a reason some places won't accept the original transcript when you want to scan it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 22, 2011, 12:28:19 am
5 x daily.

10x 2 hourly is strictly better

Not if I decide to go somewhere in the middle of the day! ffkdk.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mardat on August 22, 2011, 08:52:45 am
No, it will only validate a maximum of 2 of your 2-hourlys in a day - considering it's the same price as a 5 x daily it is strictly better.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 22, 2011, 11:36:19 am
You know how I said if you go to uni during peak time your fine. Well today I got checked again, at 9:30am inside the 401 bus. (Had positive balance this time  8))

I saw them fining this guy for using a dysfunctional myki because it had cracked. I was ammused when i heard that the ticket inspector said something like this:

"I'm going to show you my badge now, I'm Paul Joseph. You are not obliged to say or do anything, anything you do or say can be used against you in a court of law".

UHHHHHHHH did they just rip out a police line??????
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 22, 2011, 07:02:56 pm
^ Thats absurd, probably been watching too much cops or 24  :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: schmalex on August 22, 2011, 07:37:55 pm
You know how I said if you go to uni during peak time your fine. Well today I got checked again, at 9:30am inside the 401 bus. (Had positive balance this time  8))

I saw them fining this guy for using a dysfunctional myki because it had cracked. I was ammused when i heard that the ticket inspector said something like this:

"I'm going to show you my badge now, I'm Paul Joseph. You are not obliged to say or do anything, anything you do or say can be used against you in a court of law".

UHHHHHHHH did they just rip out a police line??????

They have to say that for legal reasons. Do you think he'd just make that shit up? You'd probably get in trouble for lying.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on August 22, 2011, 08:21:12 pm
You know how I said if you go to uni during peak time your fine. Well today I got checked again, at 9:30am inside the 401 bus. (Had positive balance this time  8))

I saw them fining this guy for using a dysfunctional myki because it had cracked. I was ammused when i heard that the ticket inspector said something like this:

"I'm going to show you my badge now, I'm Paul Joseph. You are not obliged to say or do anything, anything you do or say can be used against you in a court of law".

UHHHHHHHH did they just rip out a police line??????

They have to say that for legal reasons. Do you think he'd just make that shit up? You'd probably get in trouble for lying.

Woah ease up.... Obviously I understand why it had to be said. I'm sorry that you couldn't see the humour behind it coming from the TI's.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 24, 2011, 04:06:14 pm
University decreased CSPs in the MD in favour of significantly increasing FFPs. At this point I'm going to stop defending the model and just admit they're chasing dollars.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 24, 2011, 06:58:14 pm
At this point I'm going to stop defending the model and just admit they're chasing dollars.

Hallelujah!  HOOOOOOOOO! 

Welcome to the club brah!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 24, 2011, 08:58:24 pm
PagingDr is making quite good reading at the moment. Looks like the cutoffs for MD have risen a lot...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 24, 2011, 09:00:31 pm
I am honestly surprised, I didn't think they'd go up this much. Maybe I'll end up in honours next year :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 24, 2011, 09:12:27 pm
How close do you think you'll end up Russ? Did you have any other preferences?

This isn't boding well for me when I apply for 2013 :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 24, 2011, 09:26:10 pm
I should get an interview despite the high cutoff. I listed Deakin and ANU as my next two, neither of which are out yet. That said, I've been going through the motions with the entire MD thing and I'm not sure if it is actually right for me. Hopefully I get that sorted between now and December.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 24, 2011, 09:36:52 pm
You'll be alright, such a big decision though (I can only imagine). Good luck with it :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on August 24, 2011, 10:44:57 pm
Totally stressed out about the cutoffs at the moment :( Didn't get my 2nd preference (Monash) either, not looking good for me at all. Looks like I'll end up with a useless Science degree :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on August 24, 2011, 10:50:33 pm
Not sure why I can't edit my last post but just wanted to say I'm not that interested in going on to do research with my BSc (hence useless). Not that a science degree is useless as a whole.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 24, 2011, 11:51:45 pm
Not sure why I can't edit my last post but just wanted to say I'm not that interested in going on to do research with my BSc (hence useless). Not that a science degree is useless as a whole.

I will warn you this:

DO NOT BE A CASUALTY OF THE MELBOURNE MODEL!!!!!!!

Don't think like that.  Start researching looking out for the different types of careers and options available.  Show Mr. Davies that you're better than that!

EDIT:  Crossed out a word.  Pun not intended.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 25, 2011, 09:17:17 am
I would think if you didn't get Monash there's still a chance you'll get UoM?

If you don't want to do research, you could apply for one of the other professional entry Masters programs? Or something broader like public health?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 25, 2011, 11:04:59 am
I have a question: presuming the med entry applications work like VTAC offers and you only get one - does this mean that if you put UoM first and get an FFP but don't want to take it, you have no other offers and won't be considered for other preferences?  I know it will be a long time until I apply, haha, but I'm just wondering.

Or if you know you don't want an FFP, you can elect not to be offered one and only be considered for CSP and BMP?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on August 25, 2011, 11:26:12 am
I have a question: presuming the med entry applications work like VTAC offers and you only get one - does this mean that if you put UoM first and get an FFP but don't want to take it, you have no other offers and won't be considered for other preferences?  I know it will be a long time until I apply, haha, but I'm just wondering.

Or if you know you don't want an FFP, you can elect not to be offered one and only be considered for CSP and BMP?

You can choose to not be considered for a FFP, in which case you would get passed on to another university.  Unfortunately there is no way to say you'd prefer a CSP at Deakin to a BMP at Melbourne for example.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 25, 2011, 03:52:56 pm
I have a question: presuming the med entry applications work like VTAC offers and you only get one - does this mean that if you put UoM first and get an FFP but don't want to take it, you have no other offers and won't be considered for other preferences?  I know it will be a long time until I apply, haha, but I'm just wondering.

Or if you know you don't want an FFP, you can elect not to be offered one and only be considered for CSP and BMP?

You can choose to not be considered for a FFP, in which case you would get passed on to another university.  Unfortunately there is no way to say you'd prefer a CSP at Deakin to a BMP at Melbourne for example.

Well that kind of sucks!  But I guess it's better than nothing.  Thanks for clearing that up :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 25, 2011, 05:13:37 pm
They've flagged that as a potential change for future years though
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on August 25, 2011, 08:09:25 pm
I would think if you didn't get Monash there's still a chance you'll get UoM?

If you don't want to do research, you could apply for one of the other professional entry Masters programs? Or something broader like public health?
Apparently MD offers are out and have not got any emails... I guess it's all over for me :( I'll probably consider other courses
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 25, 2011, 08:15:10 pm
PagingDr is making quite good reading at the moment. Looks like the cutoffs for MD have risen a lot...
Indeed,

Sorry for those deprived of an offer :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 25, 2011, 08:24:54 pm
Yeah it's really shocking to see the increases across the board with the new system. I hope you find a path for next year, if you want to reapply for 2013
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 25, 2011, 08:38:31 pm
Someone from Paging Dr apparently got passed down from UoM with 6.1 GPA and 71  Gamsat  :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 25, 2011, 08:42:56 pm
Someone from Paging Dr apparently got passed down from UoM with 6.1 GPA and 71  Gamsat  :-\

I am almost certain there's more to that story (ie a missing prereq) because there are multiple people with worse scores who got offers.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 25, 2011, 09:37:05 pm
He also thinks his GPA might have been closer to 5.7 or something, due to transfers and such.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 25, 2011, 09:40:09 pm
That would explain it. I haven't been following PD that closely.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2011, 06:13:44 pm
Oh wow, over half of all applicants didn't get an interview. That's surprisingly high
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 26, 2011, 06:47:22 pm
Thats probably because so many applied
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2011, 06:56:19 pm
I don't think more than usual applied this year, but we've never had the statistics before
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 26, 2011, 08:19:02 pm
Well the number of places is constant (although more has been allocated to FFP for obvious reasons, still this would be negligible) so thats really the only conclusion we can make, unless UoM is taking reducing the number of interview offers, I dont think it has changed from the usual 1.25, but Im not certain,

Anybody received the 'snail mail' (Gemsas letter) yet?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2011, 08:51:29 pm
I'm not talking about UoM, i'm talking about through GEMSAS - half of all applicants didn't receive an interview to any of their preferences.

Also, UoM now interview 150% of places not 125%
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Blakhitman on August 28, 2011, 10:58:31 pm
Anyway to chuck your essay in some turnitin-like program?

I don't plagiarise, just out of curiosity...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 28, 2011, 11:41:50 pm
Lol, one time my friend was trying to figure out why her plagiarism count was so high for some random website and it turned out turn it in had picked up her student number and page numbers as curling scores.  And they were that similar it contributed something like 5% plagiarism.  Good times.
Love turn it in.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on August 29, 2011, 08:45:52 am
Best part of turnitin is that the later your submission is, the higher the plagiarism count is because it picks up all the student papers submitted before you on the same assignment :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on August 29, 2011, 10:49:59 am
Astute observation, I turned mine in ~10 minutes before the deadline  :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 31, 2011, 10:59:42 pm
Who understands electrochemistry?  Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only part of Chem I can do is Organic Chem.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mao on September 01, 2011, 01:34:45 am
Who understands electrochemistry?  Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only part of Chem I can do is Organic Chem.

What part are you having trouble with?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on September 01, 2011, 03:19:52 pm
Who understands electrochemistry?  Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, the only part of Chem I can do is Organic Chem.
Chem 2 you mean?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 01, 2011, 11:02:33 pm
Yup Chem 2!

@Mao - It's basically just regarding a few questions calculating the equilibrium constant using the Nernst equation.  When I constructed a balanced equation I had 10 mol of electrons being transferred and as a result I got like, some number x 10^400 or something to this extent as K and I have never seen a K that big SO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE.  Is it even possible?  Am I doing something wrong?  It doesn't help that the answers are not up yet so I cannot check them myself.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mao on September 03, 2011, 03:32:27 am
@Mao - It's basically just regarding a few questions calculating the equilibrium constant using the Nernst equation.  When I constructed a balanced equation I had 10 mol of electrons being transferred and as a result I got like, some number x 10^400 or something to this extent as K and I have never seen a K that big SO I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT IS POSSIBLE.  Is it even possible?  Am I doing something wrong?  It doesn't help that the answers are not up yet so I cannot check them myself.

I'm going to need more details on the actual question, but it sounds like you understand the mathematics of it quite well, you have just discovered an inconsistency or have discovered ambiguous theories aren't always applicable. Post the actual question up in a different thread if you want, I'd be happy to have a look at it.

I have never seen a K that is 10^400, though I don't think it is impossible. I have seen cases where K~10^60.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 04, 2011, 12:22:22 am
I will PM you tomorrow!  :) Thanks.  It's also quite likely I did something wrong though.

Thanks for saying you think I understood the mathematics.  Nobody has ever complimented my mathematical ability in my life.  My Year 11 Methods teacher started my report comment with 'Unfortunately...'.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on September 05, 2011, 11:20:04 pm
Hey, does anyone know when the semester 2 exam timetable usually comes out?
Cheers.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 06, 2011, 07:40:11 am
Probably first week back after the midsemester break
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on September 17, 2011, 03:33:01 pm
Okay, so I stupidly forgot to foonote one quote for a short history essay, despite using over 20 footnotes throughout the entire piece. Will this negatively impact upon my mark? It is in quotation marks, but the citation just isn't there.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 17, 2011, 03:37:14 pm
Not unless your tutor is a bit of a jerk (this is why you should use endnote btw)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on September 17, 2011, 03:42:06 pm
What is the difference between foonotes and endnotes? (I am not familiar with the latter)
Gah, she isn't usually...I know it's important but after 25 foonotes, it's obviously just a silly mistake.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 17, 2011, 03:49:10 pm
Endnote is a computer program designed to make referencing easy and less boring. It's available on the library website and I couldn't work without it!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on September 17, 2011, 03:51:19 pm
Oh, alright, I'll have to give it a look then! I am so freaking angry at myself, bye bye H1 :( At least it's in quotation marks I guess, sigh...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mao on September 17, 2011, 04:38:33 pm
Endnotes are notes to be placed at the end of the document, which typically contain citations/other information that do not contribute to the text, but allow the readers to look up any secondary and tertiary sources used. Footnotes on the other hand do contribute to the text, but contain remarks which do not belong in the body of text. The 'works cited' bibliography is a type of endnotes, where all the bibliographical entries are collected together and presented at the end of the document.

Endnote is a third-party software to help manage a bibliographical database and enumerate citations/generate endnotes. MSWord 2007 and onwards have build-in capabilities to handle citations. Many academic manuscripts are written in LaTeX, which has its own method of handling citations (bibTeX).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 19, 2011, 12:36:16 am
Okay, so I stupidly forgot to foonote one quote for a short history essay, despite using over 20 footnotes throughout the entire piece. Will this negatively impact upon my mark? It is in quotation marks, but the citation just isn't there.

Is it for American History?  Just email it, lawls.  Lax-est subject ever.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on September 19, 2011, 11:10:35 am
lol it is actually! seriously?! Maybe it won't be a big deal then...

Also, uni is open during the mid-semester break, right?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 19, 2011, 11:33:00 am
Of course, it's not a holiday it's just a non teaching period. I was there earlier and I'll be there again on Wednesday, all the postgrad/honours/etc students are still working :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 19, 2011, 12:44:34 pm
lol it is actually! seriously?! Maybe it won't be a big deal then...

Well it semi depends on your tutor, who is it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 19, 2011, 12:46:57 pm
Of course, it's not a holiday it's just a non teaching period. I was there earlier and I'll be there again on Wednesday, all the postgrad/honours/etc students are still working :P

That is why it does not get termed 'break' in the official academic nomenclature and is instead dubbed a 'period'.
I am lengthening my weekend off with an afternoon coffee and then the books and I meet again.
It was good to put them down on Friday and not have to look at them again until now.  Lucky I return to studying on such an awfully unpleasant day which includes sun.

This time last year I was overseas enjoying myself with bronchitis in my hotel room, why can't I be doing arts again? /creys/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 06:22:16 pm
I have been irate all day - why would you postpone the exam timetable a whole week?  EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY KNOWS, IT'S NOT FAIIIIIR.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 03, 2011, 06:52:35 pm
I've known about it for a while, surprised everyone else didn't. But yeah, so annoying.

Also, did you leave your 9am lecture in the copland early today?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 03, 2011, 07:03:13 pm
It's more annoying when you need to give at least 3 weeks notice to your employer when taking time off and by postponing it a week, UoM thinks it's fine.  But it's NOT!!!!!

This should be grounds for special consideration.  :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 08:03:44 pm
It's more annoying when you need to give at least 3 weeks notice to your employer when taking time off and by postponing it a week, UoM thinks it's fine.  But it's NOT!!!!!

This should be grounds for special consideration.  :P

I know, that's the reason I'm annoyed as well D:<
I can understand postponing the release a day or two if the timetable isn't finalised.  But another seven days?  Really?  Especially since they just had a two week non-teaching period to get that shit done.

I didn't think it was possible for Admin to be more shit before today.
Notice they put up a lovely button for re-enrolling in your course.  Thanks Melbourne Uni, I'd love to re-enroll but it'd be nice to know when the exams I have to go to in order to do so are, prior to me thinking about next year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 08:07:00 pm
Also, did you leave your 9am lecture in the copland early today?

Okay so I wasn't really in the Copland, I came down the stairs from one side of 'Arts West' to wait for my 10am lecture in the Copland and then decided upon hearing the voice of Dawn Gleeson from afar that two hours was too long to last without caffeine, so then I went up the other set of stairs.  So I guess that could be perceived as me leaving my 9am lecture in the Copland.  WHY, WERE YOU THERE?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 03, 2011, 08:07:10 pm
Notice they put up a lovely button for re-enrolling in your course.  Thanks Melbourne Uni, I'd love to re-enroll but it'd be nice to know when the exams I have to go to in order to do so are, prior to me thinking about next year.

That's why we need a whole revamp of the Operations team at UoM.  Seriously need to lift their game.

Also, this is one of the hidden casualties of the Melbourne Model.  Who woulda thought?  [/end rage]
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 08:18:16 pm
So desperate for money they will put up a button in the ugly colour of grey, which shall be dead for another 21 days, before they will consider providing decent and relevant information.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 03, 2011, 08:23:01 pm
WHY, WERE YOU THERE?

Yes, I stalk you.

(i was waiting for a lecture)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 08:25:21 pm
WHY, WERE YOU THERE?

Yes, I stalk you.

(i was waiting for a lecture)

Aaaargh, where?  Should have said hello.  Only, I am too awkward to function socially.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 03, 2011, 08:33:02 pm
I didn't know if it was you, next time I will shout after you.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2011, 11:36:21 pm
Yesss, shout Mavis Gibbons.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on October 03, 2011, 11:53:59 pm
Also, did you leave your 9am lecture in the copland early today?

Okay so I wasn't really in the Copland, I came down the stairs from one side of 'Arts West' to wait for my 10am lecture in the Copland and then decided upon hearing the voice of Dawn Gleeson from afar that two hours was too long to last without caffeine, so then I went up the other set of stairs.  So I guess that could be perceived as me leaving my 9am lecture in the Copland.  WHY, WERE YOU THERE?

Leave Dawn out of this :p
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: vea on October 05, 2011, 11:37:12 am
Hi guys, I just have a few questions about getting into Melbourne's Doctor of Optometry course and some other random uni questions.

1. How difficult is it to maintain a H2A (75%) weighted average? I've been looking at the guaranteed entry scheme for the Melb OD and that and a 98.00 ATAR is all that is needed. What do you guys actually think about this guaranteed entry scheme?

2. Does a H2A (75%) mean that you are in the top 25% of the subject cohort?

3. Do you actually get paid for clinical training? (don't really care but it'll be a massive bonus! :P)

4. I do Monash's uni math course, does that mean I can skip the compulsory maths subject for biomed? Should I do it anyway to try get a higher GPA?

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the way uni works so any answers will be very helpful.
Thanks!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 05, 2011, 12:49:34 pm
Also, did you leave your 9am lecture in the copland early today?
Sorry, what subject was it that Dawn was teaching?

Okay so I wasn't really in the Copland, I came down the stairs from one side of 'Arts West' to wait for my 10am lecture in the Copland and then decided upon hearing the voice of Dawn Gleeson from afar that two hours was too long to last without caffeine, so then I went up the other set of stairs.  So I guess that could be perceived as me leaving my 9am lecture in the Copland.  WHY, WERE YOU THERE?


Leave Dawn out of this :p


Sorry what subject was it that Dawn was lecturing?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 05, 2011, 12:52:22 pm
Hi guys, I just have a few questions about getting into Melbourne's Doctor of Optometry course and some other random uni questions.

1. How difficult is it to maintain a H2A (75%) weighted average? I've been looking at the guaranteed entry scheme for the Melb OD and that and a 98.00 ATAR is all that is needed. What do you guys actually think about this guaranteed entry scheme?

2. Does a H2A (75%) mean that you are in the top 25% of the subject cohort?

3. Do you actually get paid for clinical training? (don't really care but it'll be a massive bonus! :P)

4. I do Monash's uni math course, does that mean I can skip the compulsory maths subject for biomed? Should I do it anyway to try get a higher GPA?

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to the way uni works so any answers will be very helpful.
Thanks!

2) Uni is not like VCE, its not a competition, although there are some subjects that are graded on a curve
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 05, 2011, 01:09:34 pm
First year biomed is Copland 9am on Monday.

1. How difficult is it to maintain a H2A (75%) weighted average? I've been looking at the guaranteed entry scheme for the Melb OD and that and a 98.00 ATAR is all that is needed. What do you guys actually think about this guaranteed entry scheme?

How long is a piece of string? Difficult of the subjects and the marks you get are extremely individual things, especially because subject difficulty varies. As a very general comment, a 75% isn't a mark you can get without working for it but at the same time it probably isn't going to require 4 hours a night of intense study (I'm equivocating but the moral is "achievable"). Guaranteed entry has been discussed a lot, have a read of various threads.


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2. Does a H2A (75%) mean that you are in the top 25% of the subject cohort?

Not at all, but if I had to guess how many got >75 it would be (very roughly) around there

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3. Do you actually get paid for clinical training? (don't really care but it'll be a massive bonus! :P)

Not as far as I know.


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4. I do Monash's uni math course, does that mean I can skip the compulsory maths subject for biomed? Should I do it anyway to try get a higher GPA?
You can skip calc1 but not experimental design. If your extension mark was good then don't worry about trying for a higher GPA

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 05, 2011, 01:23:18 pm
On 4: when you apply for credit, you'll just get 'Exempt' and no true mark.  Which means it's better not to do a fourth subject that semester, so that you can invest more time in your other subjects and therefore end up with a higher GPA than you would probably obtain should you do Calc 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 05, 2011, 02:23:08 pm
Just get four 7s, problem solved :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 05, 2011, 03:49:07 pm
Dreading the thought of going back to doing four subjects next semester.  How did I ever do four subjects per semester ever?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: vea on October 05, 2011, 04:43:38 pm
Thanks for the replies, 3 subjects for my first semester of uni sounds pretty sweet. :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 05, 2011, 05:53:04 pm
^Yes I am indeed looking forward to mine  :D,

Im not looking forward to getting 6 weeks of my holiday carved out for Chem 2 though, should have done it this semester..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 05, 2011, 06:06:14 pm
Im not looking forward to getting 6 weeks of my holiday carved out for Chem 2 though, should have done it this semester..

It's so much fun tho lol, summa partii.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on October 05, 2011, 07:14:14 pm
Hey, Does anyone know how to link our student email account to a different gmail account so that it's possible to send and receive uni emails from the other account? I've tried a couple of things, but can't seem to get it to work :(

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Lasercookie on October 05, 2011, 07:22:38 pm
Hey, Does anyone know how to link our student email account to a different gmail account so that it's possible to send and receive uni emails from the other account? I've tried a couple of things, but can't seem to get it to work :(
It should be the same system for linking any other email account:
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=22370 (click "I'm a Gmail or Google Apps user sending from an external address.")

In the accounts and import tab in settings, there's a 'send mail as' setting. You can pick to use 'send through gmail' (easier to set up) or use UoM's SMTP server.

For receiving mail into your account, you need to set up POP3 in gmail. Again it's in the accounts and imports tab of gmail.

http://www.its.unimelb.edu.au/support/email/settings - UoM's SMTP server and POP3 address is on this page. I just found that on Google, you might need to confirm those are correct from someone who is actually a student at Melbourne.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on October 05, 2011, 07:37:35 pm
You're awesome! Thanks heaps for that. Appreciate it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on October 05, 2011, 11:18:31 pm
Actually when I put in the POP3 settings with my username and password it says "Server denied POP3 access for the given username and password."  :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mao on October 06, 2011, 02:36:08 am
Save your underloading credit. You are going to need it more in your final year than your first year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on October 06, 2011, 04:47:04 pm
^Yes I am indeed looking forward to mine  :D,

Im not looking forward to getting 6 weeks of my holiday carved out for Chem 2 though, should have done it this semester..
Did you do forests instead of Chem this semester? Should have kept it for third year :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 06, 2011, 04:54:53 pm
He did Fundamentals last semester so he would have had to skip Chem 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 06, 2011, 05:05:30 pm
By the time summer semester rolls around you'll be glad to get out of the house and do something. Part of the reason why I spend January working/volunteering, to overcome that post Christmas laziness lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on October 06, 2011, 11:32:44 pm
Okay, so how many of you have a terrible lecturer?

I should have learnt my lesson when choosing a subject with the same guy from last semester, but he is deplorable.

-Doesn't write his own lecture slides: uses someone elses...which he then often talks about being wrong and whinges when he has to fix them.
-Takes forever to upload the lecture slides after the lecture...yeah that's right, this 30 second task is so monumental that we are usually faced with a 48 delay at least.  Slides from before the med sem break only went up this week.
-Hasn't released our assignment today which is when it was meant to be out.  If I am late, I lose 10% of my mark.  Should he lose 10% of his pay then?  Should we get an extra day to do it when he decides to get off his backside and post the thing up?  Bloody useless.

And why...because apparently he "has four kids" (not my problem)...soooo frustrating!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: kamil9876 on October 07, 2011, 12:02:45 am
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-Doesn't write his own lecture slides: uses someone elses...

I have this problem with one lecturer too. On the first day he says that we will pretty much be following notes written by some guy in some other uni, so he sends us a link. Though there are some similairities, I still think the difference between our lectures and those lectures is too big. Worst of all doesn't put up the lecture notes from our actual lectures and instead just sends us links to those other lectures notes as well as scanned notes of some student from last year (rather than his own handwritten ones that he brings to class, WTF???)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 07, 2011, 08:40:01 am
It's pretty crappy but it's called the real world, not everything goes according to plan. Hell, you're getting lecture notes, which is something they're not obligated to provide. I had a lecturer with a new baby who had his lecture notes saying that Flt3L is on B cells (it's not, it's on stromal cells). There was an exam MCQ "where is Flt3L" and we got it wrong. Unfortunately, that's just how stuff works sometimes and you just have to deal with it and forget it
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 07, 2011, 04:25:29 pm
First years are cute in a naive way :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 07, 2011, 08:16:29 pm
By the time summer semester rolls around you'll be glad to get out of the house and do something. Part of the reason why I spend January working/volunteering, to overcome that post Christmas laziness lol
Problem is, I will only have ~40 days of concrete gamsat study before I have to start Chem 2, which will hopefully fill the Chem knowledge gaps I have in S3, after Chem 2 I'll have a few days to integrate it all before semester starts, errghh,

Ill looked at volunteering opportunities too, I might participate in a few closer to graduation, its unfortunate that only the last 4 years are counted in applying for internship.. well at RMH anyway, too far to even think about now anyway.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on October 07, 2011, 11:22:39 pm
First years are cute in a naive way :D

Haha, that was one of the most awkward things I've ever been to, and I was completely outnumbered on the genetics front.   Everyone hates it!  :/

But thanks for helping me sort out subjects for next year.  POG + Microbes it is, along with probably GHS for breadth and I just have to find one more.  :)

Actually looking forward to next year now!!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 08, 2011, 12:46:29 am
What!  Were you both going to that showcase thing today?  Am I in the loop?  I was going to go, but then I didn't go to uni.

At the risk of sounding really insensitive by posting this on a public board, I was reading through prac manuals for BIOL10005 and CHEM10004 and I have this feeling I can't get a practical exemption due to my father's unexpected passing away last night, I can only reschedule my prac classes.  Is this true?  Because it feels a little insensitive right now, and I'd like to thank Melbourne Uni for plunging yet another unnecessary dagger through my heart.  Guess I'll be at uni on Monday if that's the case.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 08, 2011, 01:13:18 am
First years are cute in a naive way :D

Haha, that was one of the most awkward things I've ever been to, and I was completely outnumbered on the genetics front.   Everyone hates it!  :/

But thanks for helping me sort out subjects for next year.  POG + Microbes it is, along with probably GHS for breadth and I just have to find one more.  :)

Actually looking forward to next year now!!!

Haha, exact same as myself.  It's a pretty popular combination!  I'm doing Drugs that Shape Society as well, which while a bit dis-organised hasn't been too bad so far.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 08, 2011, 09:05:43 am
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At the risk of sounding really insensitive by posting this on a public board, I was reading through prac manuals for BIOL10005 and CHEM10004 and I have this feeling I can't get a practical exemption due to my father's unexpected passing away last night, I can only reschedule my prac classes.  Is this true?  Because it feels a little insensitive right now, and I'd like to thank Melbourne Uni for plunging yet another unnecessary dagger through my heart.  Guess I'll be at uni on Monday if that's the case.

I'm sorry to hear that :(
Worst case scenario though, I guess you can just skip the prac and if you explain the situation then that prac will be ignored for your marks.

What!  Were you both going to that showcase thing today?  Am I in the loop?  I was going to go, but then I didn't go to uni.

It was the biomed 1st years advice thing from older students. Stonecold wants to do genetics for some incomprehensible reason and I was one of the people advising about it.

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Haha, that was one of the most awkward things I've ever been to

It's your own damn fault for not asking questions :P

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on October 08, 2011, 11:26:53 am
So sorry to hear about that that mavis.  :(

A friend of mine had a death in the family around this same time last semester and I think in cases such as these the uni is much more accommodating.  It's best to talk to your coordinators.  They should more than understand your situation and give you an exemption + anything else you require.

@Russ.  You were obviously considering genetics at one point!!! :p
And nah seriously, I didn't really have any questions.  Just very happy to have it all cleared up.  :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 08, 2011, 01:37:08 pm
Okay good because my mother will be mega cut if I have to go back to uni for 10 hours in two days, I think I should be at home helping her.  I will ring the office(s) on Monday, I just wanted to know in advance since one prac is on Monday.

Hahaha Genetics.  So what advice did you give - no?  I still don't know what I'm going to major in ughh.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on October 08, 2011, 02:08:08 pm

Hahaha Genetics.  So what advice did you give - no?  I still don't know what I'm going to major in ughh.

Anatomy sounds like a good idea
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 08, 2011, 04:07:24 pm

Hahaha Genetics.  So what advice did you give - no?  I still don't know what I'm going to major in ughh.

Anatomy sounds like a good idea

At the moment I'm tossing up between a long list of majors which includes Human Structure/Function, Physiology, Microbiology, Biochem, Pathology, Neurosci...

Basically I have no direct future prospects.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 08, 2011, 05:30:12 pm
Microbiology and Immunology, duh. It's easily the best and most relevant to medicine, if you're still interested in that :)

I took PoG mostly because my mates took it and somewhat because I wanted to do the major lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 08, 2011, 09:46:32 pm
Microbiology and Immunology, duh. It's easily the best and most relevant to medicine, if you're still interested in that :)

I took PoG mostly because my mates took it and somewhat because I wanted to do the major lol

Hey Russ, do you think Microbiology and Immunology is better than Defence and Disease?  I can't decide between the two at the moment!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 09, 2011, 09:28:24 am
Well yeah, I chose it after all. Depends on if you prefer pathology to microbiology, something you'll figure out next year (are you in 1st or 2nd?).
They're reasonably similar though, given they're based on the same fundamental immunology, which is what most people prefer
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 09, 2011, 11:39:13 am
Well yeah, I chose it after all. Depends on if you prefer pathology to microbiology, something you'll figure out next year (are you in 1st or 2nd?).
They're reasonably similar though, given they're based on the same fundamental immunology, which is what most people prefer

Second year, I though pathology was alright but I think microbiology seems more straight-forward.  Yeah, I guess it's not a big deal because the two are ultimately quite similar.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 09, 2011, 12:25:00 pm
Micro goes from laidback to full on in 3rd year though :(
The microbiology in MCB is a pretty basic intro and even in microbes they don't force you to learn a lot of the horrible stuff
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on October 23, 2011, 11:49:16 am
hey, does anyone know what 'vision - how the eye sees the world' is like? thinking of doing it next semester.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: schmalex on October 23, 2011, 12:26:04 pm
hey, does anyone know what 'vision - how the eye sees the world' is like? thinking of doing it next semester.

I have a friend who is doing it, and enjoys it, but doesn't really think it's that relevent to her course, since she's in Arts :P Sorry I don't have more to tell you about it. It sounds fairly easy.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Massofbubbles on October 23, 2011, 06:39:16 pm
Cheers Schmalex.

Anyone know what time re-enrolment opens? Prob don't need to worry, but one of my subjects has a quota. 

edit: nvm, just read in another thread that quota is based on performance. 
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on October 23, 2011, 10:57:25 pm
Question - okay, in terms of Arts majors, can we use one subject to count towards two different majors/minors?
To explain myself more clearly, one of my philosophy subjects was a prerequisite for both a philosophy major/minor, and a media and communications major/minor. I want to major in both of those, therefore can my one subject count for both of them?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: schmalex on October 23, 2011, 11:14:23 pm
Question - okay, in terms of Arts majors, can we use one subject to count towards two different majors/minors?
To explain myself more clearly, one of my philosophy subjects was a prerequisite for both a philosophy major/minor, and a media and communications major/minor. I want to major in both of those, therefore can my one subject count for both of them?

No.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 24, 2011, 11:19:55 am
Enrolled into some of my 2012 subjects, it warned that students taking research based physiology would benefit from completing human physiology prior. Anyone who has done these subjects, how about completing them concurrently? ie both semester 2.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on October 24, 2011, 02:12:55 pm
Enrolled into some of my 2012 subjects, it warned that students taking research based physiology would benefit from completing human physiology prior. Anyone who has done these subjects, how about completing them concurrently? ie both semester 2.
I'm doing them both at the moment, and I don't think it matters that much if you haven't done Human Physiology prior. The first two write ups in Research-Based were on topics that had yet to be covered in Human Physiology but all you had to do was some brief reading of the textbook and the answers were there. It's fine doing them in the same semester, apart from the assignment Research-Based hasn't been too much of a workload, and it blends with Human Physiology so I think it's kind of good doing them at the same time.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 24, 2011, 02:45:55 pm
Enrolled into some of my 2012 subjects, it warned that students taking research based physiology would benefit from completing human physiology prior. Anyone who has done these subjects, how about completing them concurrently? ie both semester 2.

We will ROKKKK it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 24, 2011, 04:05:51 pm
Professors court coffee eh mavis?

Seems like that's your Monday morning thing :P

/creeper
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 24, 2011, 04:11:41 pm
Professors court coffee eh mavis?

Seems like that's your Monday morning thing :P

/creeper

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG STOP.  It's too creepy!  I overdosed on caffeine too.  WHERE WERE YOU?
Coffee is my every morning thing, I actually literally do fall asleep in class if I'm not drinking it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on October 24, 2011, 06:43:55 pm
Enrolled into some of my 2012 subjects, it warned that students taking research based physiology would benefit from completing human physiology prior. Anyone who has done these subjects, how about completing them concurrently? ie both semester 2.
I did both subjects concurrently and had no problems coping
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 24, 2011, 08:08:50 pm
Enrolled into some of my 2012 subjects, it warned that students taking research based physiology would benefit from completing human physiology prior. Anyone who has done these subjects, how about completing them concurrently? ie both semester 2.
I did both subjects concurrently and had no problems coping
Terrific, thanks for the responses all.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on October 25, 2011, 02:38:17 am
Dear everyone, are my future employment completely doomed if my transcript shows failed subjects even if I redeem myself in future semesters and end up with a good GPA?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: gemgem49 on October 25, 2011, 02:40:49 am
Also anyone planning on doing psychology next year I'm planning on selling about 4 textbooks that have barely been touched so keep your eye on the buy/sell forum if you're interested in cheaper books.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 25, 2011, 07:33:41 am
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG STOP.  It's too creepy!  I overdosed on caffeine too.  WHERE WERE YOU?
Coffee is my every morning thing, I actually literally do fall asleep in class if I'm not drinking it.

I was waiting for class in Arts West when I went to the coffee shop because I saw someone there (not you) and then as I walked in, you left :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 25, 2011, 02:04:07 pm
Naww and that's the last time we will have coinciding 10am classes at Arts West.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 25, 2011, 02:07:11 pm
Dear everyone, are my future employment completely doomed if my transcript shows failed subjects even if I redeem myself in future semesters and end up with a good GPA?

No, I can't see why it would if you have an actual reason (which you do).  If you were just walking around failing everything for fun then perhaps.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on October 25, 2011, 02:35:51 pm
Nothing says fun like diminished employment prospects  ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on October 25, 2011, 08:21:09 pm
Sigh. Enrolment issues. Every single year. BAH.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on October 25, 2011, 09:30:07 pm
question: what do i do if one of the subjects i want to do next semester (financial maths 1) is conditional upon me passing one of the subjects i'm doing now(accelerated math 2), it won't let me enroll into it...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 25, 2011, 09:45:35 pm
Study plan is shit, email IT or the coordinator of the subject and they'll fix it

Last year, when the system was first introduced, nobody could enroll in our major because you had to do subjects that had each other listed as co-requisites...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: RainerWolfram on October 25, 2011, 11:21:03 pm
Hello UoM comrades,

Has anyone here completed any units during the summer semester? I was planning to study Finance 1 during the summer and I just want to know whether the summer unit is any different to the same unit studied during the normal 12 week semester? Like is the teaching quality still the same? Are the class sizes smaller? And we don't have to pay full-fee right?

And to enrol into a summer unit, we just enrol using the study planner on portal?

Thanks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 25, 2011, 11:48:17 pm
Differences include having more to learn in a shorter space of time and having class when it is 40 degrees outside.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 26, 2011, 06:56:39 pm
Hello UoM comrades,

Has anyone here completed any units during the summer semester? I was planning to study Finance 1 during the summer and I just want to know whether the summer unit is any different to the same unit studied during the normal 12 week semester? Like is the teaching quality still the same? Are the class sizes smaller? And we don't have to pay full-fee right?

And to enrol into a summer unit, we just enrol using the study planner on portal?

Thanks.

I did it over summer and it was awesome.  It's already easy over the normal semester according to my friends and it was even easier when I did it.  I did it last year and it was the coolest summer ever so the heat wasn't much of a problem. 

Yes, you still need to pay the normal price.  And yes, the lectures will be smaller in size and you enrol through the planner.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 26, 2011, 08:01:20 pm
Agree with Gloamglozer completely, though there were some nice days where you'd rather have been outside and at the beach! But it's awesome to get a subject out of the way.

On another topic, my study plan has Business Finance in the wrong section (in the breadth+science section as opposed to the breadth section), guess I'll need to make a trip to the EPSC.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 27, 2011, 01:05:06 am
Maybe that's not a bad thing?  Why can't it sit in the Breadth+Science section?  Or are you only taking 50 breadth points?  Otherwise I see no issue with it being there, I thought that section was for either breadth or science subjects that make up the flexible 25 points.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 27, 2011, 08:54:51 am
I only plan to take 50 breadth points (not a big fan of breadth haha), so I can't take another science if it's sitting there.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 27, 2011, 11:59:16 am
I only plan to take 50 breadth points (not a big fan of breadth haha), so I can't take another science if it's sitting there.

MAKES SENSE NOW.  Yay student center.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 27, 2011, 02:02:16 pm
Wasn't actually too bad today, only a 20 minute wait!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 29, 2011, 10:09:32 pm
What's up Jas___.
How's the studying going? for path.... and techniques..... xD
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 30, 2011, 07:31:43 pm
Not too bad for now! Slowly making my way through pathology, the first part is not as bad the second time around (after studying for the mid-semester, got 80% which I'm content with). The essay style exam has me a bit worried though, I'm never able to get what I'm thinking coherently down on paper. Should be alright though, fingers crossed anyway!

Can't say I've looked too much at techniques, future Jason's problem  ;D. 35% exam though, so not AS worried. How did you go in the practical exam? and studying in general?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 30, 2011, 10:32:45 pm
Yeah Path isn't too bad. You bet me by one for the test (35/45) =(. I wasn't happy with my result, was aiming pretty high so that more room for error when it comes to that essay section of the test. Path is my semester 2 worry subject now because I don't know if I can get a ~80 on the exam to the get a H1 ><. Yea same, I've been doing practice essays and every time I read a new prompts its like heaps of ideas come to mind and I find it so difficult to piece it together (but I hope to get the hang of it after this week).

I'm a worry wart when it comes to exams. Man that practical test was torture, cortisol levels were off the roof. I was trembling to the max. But I mean the points on my graphs on the computer screen looked pretty dead precise (which I'm surprised) because all my practice ones are always pretty off. The printer stuffed up during my session so we had to draw out the absorbance graphs ourselves. I don't really know how they are going to gauge my accuracy of the Lowry essay from my jibby hand drawn graph. I'm absolutely lost in techniques. When I calculate what I need to get on my exam to get a H1, It's pretty darn achievable but with the standardising of the practical reports and stuff. I'm a bit worried  about that=(

Studying should be okay. My exams is spread out; approximately 6 days between each so I'm focusing on one subject at a time. So i'm not stressed out "that much".

Jason ey? Your the guy with the HP tablet LOLOLOL. Totes not stalking :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on October 30, 2011, 10:51:32 pm
Yeah Path isn't too bad. You bet me by one for the test (35/45) =(. I wasn't happy with my result, was aiming pretty high so that more room for error when it comes to that essay section of the test. Path is my semester 2 worry subject now because I don't know if I can get a ~80 on the exam to the get a H1 ><. Yea same, I've been doing practice essays and every time I read a new prompts its like heaps of ideas come to mind and I find it so difficult to piece it together (but I hope to get the hang of it after this week).

I'm a worry wart when it comes to exams. Man that practical test was torture, cortisol levels were off the roof. I was trembling to the max. But I mean the points on my graphs on the computer screen looked pretty dead precise (which I'm surprised) because all my practice ones are always pretty off. The printer stuffed up during my session so we had to draw out the absorbance graphs ourselves. I don't really know how they are going to gauge my accuracy of the Lowry essay from my jibby hand drawn graph. I'm absolutely lost in techniques. When I calculate what I need to get on my exam to get a H1, It's pretty darn achievable but with the standardising of the practical reports and stuff. I'm a bit worried  about that=(

Studying should be okay. My exams is spread out; approximately 6 days between each so I'm focusing on one subject at a time. So i'm not stressed out "that much".

Jason ey? Your the guy with the HP tablet LOLOLOL. Totes not stalking :P
I bet you'll be at Brownless all night :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 30, 2011, 11:02:02 pm
Brownless is so crowded and hot nowadays. Even at 11 pm on a SATURDAY NIGHT its filled to max capacity. I've recently taken advantage of the Ballieu Library Extended Hours Study Zone :) It's lovely.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 30, 2011, 11:02:58 pm
Were you the Tuesday 2pm group? Cause my girlfriend was in that one, and yeah she got screwed over by the printers too! Apparently the way they'll gauge accuracy is by the absorbance values and the R-square, though the calibration curve apparently isn't going to be marked strictly (considering no one else had to do it!). I'm the same in techniques too, though it should be alright. Those last two lectures were torture though, so confusing...

Jason ey? Your the guy with the HP tablet LOLOLOL. Totes not stalking :P

Haha that's me!! Knew that laptop made me stand out :(. Not even going to try and guess who you are!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 30, 2011, 11:10:43 pm
Yeah sure was. Ahhh man I'm hoping under all that stress that I didn't copy any absorbance values down wrong LOL.

Now that I know who you are. It's going to be pretty awkward everytime I see you because I'll know you but you won't know me  8) (Hi, I'm Peter!)

Haha. Good luck with exam study mate! You'll probably gun it like every other semester .... :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on October 30, 2011, 11:15:02 pm
We were told by our demonstrator (Sri) the week before to write down all absorbances in case the computers crash, must be some type of psychic.

Don't worry, I'll keep a look out for a guy that's staring at me knowingly, but trying to hide it :D

Good luck with your exams too! Haha as if, look at those scores for semester 1, gun! ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 30, 2011, 11:22:52 pm
Haha cheers mate!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on October 31, 2011, 12:19:24 am
Brownless is so crowded and hot nowadays. Even at 11 pm on a SATURDAY NIGHT its filled to max capacity. I've recently taken advantage of the Ballieu Library Extended Hours Study Zone :) It's lovely.

Yeah.  But didn't they say that they would make a part of the Giblin Euonson Library a study hall just before it's official opening?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 31, 2011, 10:40:36 am
If they did announce that, I haven't heard of it. On the opening hours page on the Library Website,  it says nothing about it either.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 31, 2011, 06:11:43 pm
Omg I am the biggest stresshead right now.

Okay so, I need to get my exchange academic reference sorted 'in the field in which I will undertake my study'.  Too bad that field is Biology and there are like 685939 people in my lectures.  I would get my tutor to write it, but she is an academic 'nobody' in terms of title, she is just a student.  I would get a Psych lecturer that actually knows me to write it, but I'm not taking Psych subjects overseas (or planning on doing so anyway).

So, I am unsure of who I should ask.  Because I'm applying Ivy League, it needs to be somebody as highly regarded as possible because of the misconception that I walk around knowing a whole lot of Associate Professors by name.

When I finished last semester Biology they sent me that stupid letter being like 'congratz on your results, if you ever need an academic reference, just ask'.  Does this mean I email the Biology Office and ask them to organise the reference for me?  Or that I can email pretty much anyone who lectured Biology last semester and beg them for a reference?  But then there's the problem with that being totally impersonal because they don't actually know who I am.

SOMEONE HELP ME SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on October 31, 2011, 06:49:24 pm


When I finished last semester Biology they sent me that stupid letter being like 'congratz on your results, if you ever need an academic reference, just ask'.  Does this mean I email the Biology Office and ask them to organise the reference for me?  Or that I can email pretty much anyone who lectured Biology last semester and beg them for a reference?  But then there's the problem with that being totally impersonal because they don't actually know who I am.

SOMEONE HELP ME SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO?

Just email a lecturer from Biology, introduce yourself and ask nicely...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 31, 2011, 08:22:05 pm


When I finished last semester Biology they sent me that stupid letter being like 'congratz on your results, if you ever need an academic reference, just ask'.  Does this mean I email the Biology Office and ask them to organise the reference for me?  Or that I can email pretty much anyone who lectured Biology last semester and beg them for a reference?  But then there's the problem with that being totally impersonal because they don't actually know who I am.

SOMEONE HELP ME SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK I SHOULD DO?

Just email a lecturer from Biology, introduce yourself and ask nicely...

OKAY I WILL DO IT.  Do you think it would be best to do it for a lecturer from last semester or this semester, considering the results for this semester are obviously not out yet...
I know it might seem like I'm freaking out about nothing and should solve these problems myself but I am actually about to implode with stress right now.  I'm thinking I actually should have applied for special consideration following my 'incident'...but oh well.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 31, 2011, 10:07:01 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 31, 2011, 10:36:22 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 31, 2011, 10:42:38 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!



Thanks, I'll take a look at the older ones.  I did find those, but Briggs mentioned in our last lecture that the we should have access to the exams for Principles of Human Structure, so I thought they might be floating around as well.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on October 31, 2011, 11:08:53 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!



Thanks, I'll take a look at the older ones.  I did find those, but Briggs mentioned in our last lecture that the we should have access to the exams for Principles of Human Structure, so I thought they might be floating around as well.

He is a liar LOL. Briggs said last semester that there are no past papers for Principle of Human Structure. Thus, I had to resort to those papers and HSF  papers.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on October 31, 2011, 11:17:54 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!



Thanks, I'll take a look at the older ones.  I did find those, but Briggs mentioned in our last lecture that the we should have access to the exams for Principles of Human Structure, so I thought they might be floating around as well.

He is a liar LOL. Briggs said last semester that there are no past papers for Principle of Human Structure. Thus, I had to resort to those papers and HSF  papers.

Oh okay, that's a shame.  I can't get mad at Briggs though, not with that accent!  I notice you said HSF papers, were you able to find more than the 2010 one?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 01, 2011, 09:24:14 am
I found a bunch of anatomy and physiology papers to study from. I don't think any of them were from the new subjects, most of them were several years old but it's all the same stuff
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on November 01, 2011, 02:22:42 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!



Thanks, I'll take a look at the older ones.  I did find those, but Briggs mentioned in our last lecture that the we should have access to the exams for Principles of Human Structure, so I thought they might be floating around as well.

He is a liar LOL. Briggs said last semester that there are no past papers for Principle of Human Structure. Thus, I had to resort to those papers and HSF  papers.

Oh okay, that's a shame.  I can't get mad at Briggs though, not with that accent!  I notice you said HSF papers, were you able to find more than the 2010 one?

I believe the only HSF i practiced from was the 2010 one. The Principle of Human Structure exam last semester was basically alot of questions which were stolen from that paper (which is what I believe enabled me to get a H1 LOL). I don't think Briggs would be stupid enough to copy questions from last years papers for you guys. Good luck mate!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on November 01, 2011, 03:49:44 pm
Hi everyone, hope your exam study is going well!

I was wondering if anyone had any past exams for second year physiology or anatomy they could put up?  I've found the HSF exam from last year, however that's the only one I could see.

Or in the case that I'm just dense and they are online, any search pointers would be much appreciated!

In preparation for my Anatomy and Physiology exams last semester. I went to the Library homepage and clicked on Past exam papers. I simply typed in Anatomy in the search box. It should come up with anatomy papers from quite a while back. There is also alot of them. You simply just need to select the relevant questions. Most of them are definitely relevant and really helped me in preparation for the exam. Hope this helps!



Thanks, I'll take a look at the older ones.  I did find those, but Briggs mentioned in our last lecture that the we should have access to the exams for Principles of Human Structure, so I thought they might be floating around as well.

He is a liar LOL. Briggs said last semester that there are no past papers for Principle of Human Structure. Thus, I had to resort to those papers and HSF  papers.

Oh okay, that's a shame.  I can't get mad at Briggs though, not with that accent!  I notice you said HSF papers, were you able to find more than the 2010 one?

I believe the only HSF i practiced from was the 2010 one. The Principle of Human Structure exam last semester was basically alot of questions which were stolen from that paper (which is what I believe enabled me to get a H1 LOL). I don't think Briggs would be stupid enough to copy questions from last years papers for you guys. Good luck mate!
Yeh unfortunately they don't release any papers for anatomy because they recycle the questions every year. Last semester (Locomotor) the instructions on the front cover allowed us to remove the question booklet from the hall. But they found out it was a mistake at the very last moment and some students managed to leave with the paper. I was one of the unlucky ones who got the paper taken off but I think there are some papers out there :P

For the second year exam, the multi choice section will be 'Quiz 3' and will examine the remaining lectures. Short answer questions are usually the prac images and you fill in the blanks with a word from the list.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on November 01, 2011, 04:08:30 pm
Thanks for your advice everyone!  Yes, in flicking through some of the other exams I have seen some diagrams that were in our MSTs pop up, so I'll definitely take a look at the other exams too.  I guess the number of things you can ask about anatomy is a bit limited...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 01, 2011, 08:18:50 pm
I'm looking forward to next year, a lot :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 06, 2011, 01:08:02 am
Okay so I have a qqqqqqqqqq about qqqqqqqquota subjects again.


-RETRACT OWN QUESTION AFTER LEARNING HOW TO USE GOOGLE-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 06, 2011, 05:17:30 pm
Wait, you guys found the HSF exam from last year? May I ask where it is, or if someone can PM it to me? Things are looking grim for me LOL D:
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 06, 2011, 07:54:58 pm
I have the exam for the biomed HSF, but not Locomotor systems
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 06, 2011, 08:21:16 pm
Ah right, yeah I think I found that too on the library site; I think it's called integrated human structure and function? Ah well, content should be similar right?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 01:27:24 pm
So I completely and entirely screwed that exam up :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 08, 2011, 04:01:46 pm
Was the biomed exam today?

edit: wait...or are you doing science?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 04:20:35 pm
Science :)
But it was Biology.  Theresa Jones...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 08, 2011, 06:37:06 pm
Science :)
But it was Biology.  Theresa Jones...
YES. What kind of a moron decides it would be fine to put pictures of fossils which were only shown once, on the day of the relevant lecture, what about those who weren't there? And even to those who were, were they meant to take a damn sketch?

Other than that awful section, I think most of the other questions were fair, I probably lost more marks in Jones' sections than anywhere else.

I had Micro a hour later, I think I had a minor frameshift mutation in my MCQ's..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 06:43:25 pm
Science :)
But it was Biology.  Theresa Jones...
YES. What kind of a moron decides it would be fine to put pictures of fossils which were only shown once, on the day of the relevant lecture, what about those who weren't there? And even to those who were, were they meant to take a damn sketch? Which was the spiral shell (trilobite?)

Other than that awful section, I think most of the other questions were fair, I probably lost more marks in Jones' sections than anywhere else.

I had Micro a hour later, I think I had a minor frameshift mutation in my MCQ's..

I WASN'T ACTUALLY THERE...BECAUSE MY DAD DIED SORRY THERESA CAN'T BE THERE TO SEE THE FOSSILS HAD TO GO TO HIS FUNERAL.  Fuck you bitch.
And the Sec D question was literally the only thing I didn't have time to revise, hence lost marks for not remembering the reason that wasn't homeobox genes, triploblastic thingie and increase in O2...think it was breaking up of land masses or something.  And then I forgot what was 'remarkable' about Eucidarian fauna because I had a mental blank and thought it was asking me about Cambrian fossils and I was like '...nothing?'.  ARGHGHGHGHGH.

Everyone else's sections were FINE.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 06:45:32 pm
PS: spiral shell is ammonite.
the other thingie was a trilobite I think, the one that looks like a thumb nail with ridges.
And then omg the first fossil, was that that stupid bird dinosaur?  I wasn't there for that lecture either >: my Psych lab clashed with Biol on a Wednesday every second week EDIT: FOUND IT http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Archaeopteryx_lithographica_%28Berlin_specimen%29.jpg/220px-Archaeopteryx_lithographica_%28Berlin_specimen%29.jpg I steal my photos from wikipedia too, WHY THE HELL ARE THEY NOT ON THE SLIDES IF YOU JUST STOLE THEM OFF THE INTERNET YOURSELF.
And then the stupid STICK THING - was that Hallucinowhatsit?  And then the thing with the digits, I couldn't remember if that was meant to be Ithchystajuruedfhdh or Aterosegasuaurdfd.

No wait I thought of something else - Rick's Section C question, he never referred to diatomecious earth as celite?  I didn't know that's what it was referring to...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 08, 2011, 07:01:14 pm
Yes I had no clue about the celite question,

for some reason I said 'Hox' genes not homeobox genes, think Ill get any marks?

EDIT: After looking at what I just wrote, It is just a contraction of Homeo and box, it should be ok I hope
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tea.squaredd on November 08, 2011, 07:03:32 pm
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you were to go into Sci @ UoM and wanted to go for postgrad Med/Dent,  which prereqs would you neeed/ most relevant/ most enjoyable?
Also, does anyone know the percentage of biomed kids from UoM that go into Med/Dent and percentage of Sci kids from UoM that go into med/dent?
Cheers!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 08, 2011, 07:05:40 pm
PS: spiral shell is ammonite.
the other thingie was a trilobite I think, the one that looks like a thumb nail with ridges.
And then omg the first fossil, was that that stupid bird dinosaur?  I wasn't there for that lecture either >: my Psych lab clashed with Biol on a Wednesday every second week EDIT: FOUND IT http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Archaeopteryx_lithographica_%28Berlin_specimen%29.jpg/220px-Archaeopteryx_lithographica_%28Berlin_specimen%29.jpg I steal my photos from wikipedia too, WHY THE HELL ARE THEY NOT ON THE SLIDES IF YOU JUST STOLE THEM OFF THE INTERNET YOURSELF.
And then the stupid STICK THING - was that Hallucinowhatsit?  And then the thing with the digits, I couldn't remember if that was meant to be Ithchystajuruedfhdh or Aterosegasuaurdfd.

No wait I thought of something else - Rick's Section C question, he never referred to diatomecious earth as celite?  I didn't know that's what it was referring to...

I know that fossil question was a killer, got trilobites and ammonites but was taking a stab at the others and it looks like my Greek skills served me well. Had to have a massive guess with celite too
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 08, 2011, 07:07:52 pm
tea.towel, go to medicine homepage---->pre-requisites.

I think its ~<15%? (someone else may know better), doing biomed confers no advantage to entry into medicine so its a moot point.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 08, 2011, 07:19:27 pm
Yes I had no clue about the celite question,

for some reason I said 'Hox' genes not homeobox genes, think Ill get any marks?

EDIT: After looking at what I just wrote, It is just a contraction of Homeo and box, it should be ok I hope

Without having seen the question, you should, Hox is the accepted shorthand for Homeobox

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Also, does anyone know the percentage of biomed kids from UoM that go into Med/Dent and percentage of Sci kids from UoM that go into med/dent?

The samples are biased but from memory 33% of the current cohort are biomed graduates and 17% are science graduates. Those are rougghhh numbers though
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 07:36:17 pm
Yes I had no clue about the celite question,

for some reason I said 'Hox' genes not homeobox genes, think Ill get any marks?

EDIT: After looking at what I just wrote, It is just a contraction of Homeo and box, it should be ok I hope

PRETTY SURE, BASED ON MY QUALITY OF ANSWER it should be accepted.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 07:37:15 pm
I know that fossil question was a killer, got trilobites and ammonites but was taking a stab at the others and it looks like my Greek skills served me well. Had to have a massive guess with celite too

Chose green algae: fail.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 08, 2011, 07:41:34 pm
I know that fossil question was a killer, got trilobites and ammonites but was taking a stab at the others and it looks like my Greek skills served me well. Had to have a massive guess with celite too

Chose green algae: fail.

Lol, I can't even remember what I chose.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 08, 2011, 07:51:28 pm
^Neither, something silly Im sure  :-[
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 07:51:38 pm
I know that fossil question was a killer, got trilobites and ammonites but was taking a stab at the others and it looks like my Greek skills served me well. Had to have a massive guess with celite too

Chose green algae: fail.

Lol, I can't even remember what I chose.


I was just like 'quick, choose something that gives rise to things' at the end.  Would have been much more logical to choose brown but W/E MAN.  Ewww now chemistry...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 08, 2011, 07:52:53 pm
Today was the first time I used earplugs<------HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 07:58:27 pm
Today was the first time I used earplugs<------HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

I don't even think of these things, but to be honest the most distracting part is when the supervisors go and have a chat together.  No, gtfo.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on November 08, 2011, 09:06:06 pm
Question, do they have a lost property bin or something at REB? During the exams my sunnies dropped off and i didn't bother to pick them up as they were in front of my table and a bit hard to get to and i forgot to get them at the end. Is there a place where you can pick the up or should i just ask a random invigilator at my next exam? I really would like them back as they were good ones haha. Also what do you reackon my chances of getting them back are? I know my seat number and they literally dropped right next to the table....
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 08, 2011, 09:32:07 pm
Question, do they have a lost property bin or something at REB? During the exams my sunnies dropped off and i didn't bother to pick them up as they were in front of my table and a bit hard to get to and i forgot to get them at the end. Is there a place where you can pick the up or should i just ask a random invigilator at my next exam? I really would like them back as they were good ones haha. Also what do you reackon my chances of getting them back are? I know my seat number and they literally dropped right next to the table....

I believe it was raining and there was a fair amount of cloud cover for most of the day :P

Asking an invigilator is the best option I reckon :)

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 08, 2011, 09:35:48 pm
I would require sunglasses too, if I wore contacts and not prescription glasses to my exams.  The light is too frightening after that much cramming.

After learning I can lose 40 marks on Biol and not drop under 85, I feel slightly better...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 09, 2011, 12:20:25 am
There is a lost property thing.  I remember seeing a notice in my portal about it.  But it was a while after exams.

I would ask an invigilator in your next exam.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: au on November 09, 2011, 02:54:01 pm
Just wondering, are the UoM colleges like Hogwarts when it comes to dinner?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 09, 2011, 04:49:09 pm
Biomed first years are whining about a question that I really can't see being unfair. Harsh yes, but not unfair...welcome to university kids <3

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Just wondering, are the UoM colleges like Hogwarts when it comes to dinner?

Without the magic and stuff, yeah. There are formal dinners and there are "eat whenever you want" dinners
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 09, 2011, 05:21:27 pm
What q?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 09, 2011, 06:50:11 pm
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The question was based on a slide of the life cycle of Taenia that I showed in my 2nd lecture, on the 10th August (as you will hear if you listen to the audio). I went through this lifecycle specifically. Further, you studied Taenia in your practical 2 (pages 6-8), including the cysticercus stage, the scolex, and both mature and gravid p...roglottids of the adult stage, so the diagrams in the question should have been familiar to you on the basis of the practical alone.

Just because I did not include that slide on the LMS section does NOT mean that the material was not examinable. I seldom if ever put all slides on the LMS. ALL lecture and prac material is examinable. We are an on-campus university, and students should not expect to be able to answer exam questions if they do not attend the lectures. In the revision lecture I said that yes, you should know the life cycles of parasites that you studied.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: burbs on November 09, 2011, 06:55:19 pm
Just wondering, are the UoM colleges like Hogwarts when it comes to dinner?

amazing.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 09, 2011, 07:00:10 pm
Biomed first years are whining about a question that I really can't see being unfair. Harsh yes, but not unfair...welcome to university kids <3


If by welcome to university you mean an exam for Psychology that is purely multiple choice, has at least 25% of questions that we have seen before and have been told are going to be on the exam, then yes, welcome to university.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: physics on November 09, 2011, 07:40:52 pm
hello EVERYBODY!
i want to do science next year... but do I have to start from scratch :( and how do i apply...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on November 09, 2011, 07:49:27 pm
you would have had to apply though VTAC, late applications (so you would have to pay a fee) close in a  few days i believe...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 09, 2011, 08:04:36 pm
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The question was based on a slide of the life cycle of Taenia that I showed in my 2nd lecture, on the 10th August (as you will hear if you listen to the audio). I went through this lifecycle specifically. Further, you studied Taenia in your practical 2 (pages 6-8), including the cysticercus stage, the scolex, and both mature and gravid p...roglottids of the adult stage, so the diagrams in the question should have been familiar to you on the basis of the practical alone.

Just because I did not include that slide on the LMS section does NOT mean that the material was not examinable. I seldom if ever put all slides on the LMS. ALL lecture and prac material is examinable. We are an on-campus university, and students should not expect to be able to answer exam questions if they do not attend the lectures. In the revision lecture I said that yes, you should know the life cycles of parasites that you studied.


HAHA WHAT LECTURER WAS THAT?  Lol'd so hard.
YEAH IF WE HAD TO DEAL WITH FOSSILS which weren't even on our slides...
Anyway why assume something in prac isn't on the exam?  I revised all of the diagrams from prac the night before Biology (not that they even came in handy, clearly should have spent my time looking over the extinction crap).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 09, 2011, 08:07:18 pm
Biomed first years are whining about a question that I really can't see being unfair. Harsh yes, but not unfair...welcome to university kids <3


If by welcome to university you mean an exam for Psychology that is purely multiple choice, has at least 25% of questions that we have seen before and have been told are going to be on the exam, then yes, welcome to university.

Cogpsych - all of our practice questions were in the exam, and they provided very detailed answers (ie, not just 'Answer is A') and why those were the case AND we went through the answers in our last lab class.

So like 15 questions, had you gone to Lab 6 and bothered to open a document on the LMS, were guaranteed marks.  And this is second year!  The exam for it is all multi choice too, and only worth 50%.  I think people need the exam to be easy if they screw up the report (and by that I mean, don't get a H1) because if you don't get a H1 then your honours prospects are practically non existent from the beginning.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: physics on November 09, 2011, 08:15:08 pm
you would have had to apply though VTAC, late applications (so you would have to pay a fee) close in a  few days i believe...

aw man..btw does ANYONE KNOW ANYONE WHO DOES MASTERS OF NURSING??? IM THINKING OF DOING IT AFTER I FINISH MY MIDWIFERY DEGREE??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 09, 2011, 08:16:57 pm
Biomed first years are whining about a question that I really can't see being unfair. Harsh yes, but not unfair...welcome to university kids <3


If by welcome to university you mean an exam for Psychology that is purely multiple choice, has at least 25% of questions that we have seen before and have been told are going to be on the exam, then yes, welcome to university.

Cogpsych - all of our practice questions were in the exam, and they provided very detailed answers (ie, not just 'Answer is A') and why those were the case AND we went through the answers in our last lab class.

So like 15 questions, had you gone to Lab 6 and bothered to open a document on the LMS, were guaranteed marks.  And this is second year!  The exam for it is all multi choice too, and only worth 50%.  I think people need the exam to be easy if they screw up the report (and by that I mean, don't get a H1) because if you don't get a H1 then your honours prospects are practically non existent from the beginning.

^ You're kidding! They really go about making it easy for Psych students, that really is a joke in terms of serious academics in my opinion.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 09, 2011, 08:20:44 pm
^ You're kidding! They really go about making it easy for Psych students, that really is a joke in terms of serious academics in my opinion.

Appaz it's not for all four, my friends said that in Dev Psych you have to write essays and (being Arts students) they all found Biopsych very difficult.  And I think CogPsych was considered demanding in terms of content, still that's 15/100ish questions.  Plus our lab report topic was very difficult, chosen by the lecturer to mirror a paper he's about to publish - I don't thiiiink they do that every year.

BUT HEY, I WAS LIKE 'SCOREEE'.  Until I got to stats, failed that section.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on November 11, 2011, 02:23:33 pm
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The question was based on a slide of the life cycle of Taenia that I showed in my 2nd lecture, on the 10th August (as you will hear if you listen to the audio). I went through this lifecycle specifically. Further, you studied Taenia in your practical 2 (pages 6-8), including the cysticercus stage, the scolex, and both mature and gravid p...roglottids of the adult stage, so the diagrams in the question should have been familiar to you on the basis of the practical alone.

Just because I did not include that slide on the LMS section does NOT mean that the material was not examinable. I seldom if ever put all slides on the LMS. ALL lecture and prac material is examinable. We are an on-campus university, and students should not expect to be able to answer exam questions if they do not attend the lectures. In the revision lecture I said that yes, you should know the life cycles of parasites that you studied.


HAHA WHAT LECTURER WAS THAT?  Lol'd so hard.
YEAH IF WE HAD TO DEAL WITH FOSSILS which weren't even on our slides...
Anyway why assume something in prac isn't on the exam?  I revised all of the diagrams from prac the night before Biology (not that they even came in handy, clearly should have spent my time looking over the extinction crap).
It was a different type of Taenia on our exam (as compared to the one we did in prac) and the prac had no diagram in it. I don't get how we're supposed to remember an image we've seen for no longer than 30 seconds. Also the diagram on our exam featured a number of extra details about the lifecycle that weren't in the prac either. The lecturer was Rob Day, absolute prick. 2 of his questions were scraped from our MST because they had incorrect solutions and topics we had never learnt. We were all pissed off at him for screwing us over once again, hence the large amount of complaining :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 11, 2011, 03:30:47 pm
He sounds equally as peeved.

UGHHHH NOOOO, they want to grant my Penn Biology subject as an equivalent to Biochem and Molecular Biology.  This is bad right?  The exemption holds for a major prerequisite only, right?  Not for grad study, eg med?  Would have to be approved externally because it's not on the list?  Or because it's exempt credit, will it be counted literally /as/ BCMB20002 for the med prereqs?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on November 11, 2011, 04:14:41 pm
He sounds equally as peeved.
Haha probably cos we thought it'd be funnier if we contacted Dawn first :P He started the email with "Dawn sent me your complaint", obviously not impressed that we dobbed him into his superior. But ah well, at least we annoyed him just like he annoyed us! :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: username on November 11, 2011, 07:55:20 pm
He sounds equally as peeved.
Haha probably cos we thought it'd be funnier if we contacted Dawn first :P He started the email with "Dawn sent me your complaint", obviously not impressed that we dobbed him into his superior. But ah well, at least we annoyed him just like he annoyed us! :D

Rob day was horrible to me in first and second year. He actually semi-yelled at me once too. Spent the last second year zoology lecture telling us we should all drop out.

I wish I could have seen his stupid face when he graded my awesome exam essay on platyhelminthes.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on November 11, 2011, 08:35:49 pm
That sounds horrible! I agree completely though, he's a nasty person as well as a horrible exam writer/lecturer..So many people wanted to know what other subjects he taught so we could avoid them if possible. What second year subject did he lecture for you btw? (I'll have to avoid it like the plague if I can! Haha) 
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 11, 2011, 09:06:12 pm
*not getting drawn on the Rob Day issue*

Would have to be approved externally because it's not on the list?

It'll need to be approved by the faculty, but I don't think you'll have a problem with that...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 11, 2011, 10:53:54 pm
Would have to be approved externally because it's not on the list?

It'll need to be approved by the faculty, but I don't think you'll have a problem with that...

Parslow was like 'no it is entirely equivalent' when I emailed him back and asked.  I'm just paranoiiiid that something to do with it would go wrong.

Pros taking Biochem overseas: Not having to take every prereq next semester.
Cons taking Biochem overseas: Not being able to do cellular neurobiology because it is 18.75 credit points and there is no subject for 6.5 credit points, and also being paranoid it won't be accepted as a prereq.

WHAT DO.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: username on November 12, 2011, 12:03:15 am
That sounds horrible! I agree completely though, he's a nasty person as well as a horrible exam writer/lecturer..So many people wanted to know what other subjects he taught so we could avoid them if possible. What second year subject did he lecture for you btw? (I'll have to avoid it like the plague if I can! Haha) 

He also did 'Australia Flora and Fauna' (abalone life cycle.....) and 'Animal Physiology'.

In one of the pracs we had to draw pictures of skulls etc. He circled the whole page of drawings and wrote 'What IS THIS?'
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 12, 2011, 12:43:58 am
Lol you studied the life cycle of an abalone?
...Zoology...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: username on November 12, 2011, 08:29:21 am
Ah crap. I meant to say 'Comparative Animal Structure and Function', not 'Animal Physiology'.

He's the coordinator for the second year zoology subject.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 12, 2011, 08:58:13 am
He circled the whole page of drawings and wrote 'What IS THIS?'


He reminds me of David Tribe a little
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on November 12, 2011, 09:36:46 am
Ah crap. I meant to say 'Comparative Animal Structure and Function', not 'Animal Physiology'.

He's the coordinator for the second year zoology subject.
Oh really? I was considering doing that actually cos Laura Parry is the coordinator and she's probably the best lecturer we've had all year. Might have to avoid it then :P Thanks for letting me know! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: username on November 12, 2011, 11:29:57 am
Ah crap. I meant to say 'Comparative Animal Structure and Function', not 'Animal Physiology'.

He's the coordinator for the second year zoology subject.
Oh really? I was considering doing that actually cos Laura Parry is the coordinator and she's probably the best lecturer we've had all year. Might have to avoid it then :P Thanks for letting me know! :)

If Rday isn't the coordinator for Animal Structure and Function, I would recommend doing it since it's pretty easy. But there's also a giant chunk of lectures on fish which were mind numbingly boring.

When I did Animal Physiology Laura Parry was the coordinator. She's so lovely. She goes to every effort to make sure everyone is happy and thanks you for asking questions as though you just saved her life. Also, they teach you how to write reports with statistics and stuff which help a lot in third year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 12, 2011, 12:15:23 pm
Chem 2 people - who feels that they can aid me and my poor mathematical ability on a question I have now come across TWICE in the practice exams?  I know the answer, I just have no idea how to do the question and my calculator goes crazii.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 12, 2011, 12:58:44 pm
Chem 2 people - who feels that they can aid me and my poor mathematical ability on a question I have now come across TWICE in the practice exams?  I know the answer, I just have no idea how to do the question and my calculator goes crazii.

There was maths in Chem 2? I don't even remember... All I remember was how I couldn't remember any of the organic chem by the time I went into the exam and was pissed at myself for not starting to study earlier.. Even though I loved organic chem in chem1...don't know what happen. :o
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 12, 2011, 01:16:56 pm
Organic and Inorganic chem are the only parts I can do.  There's not really any maths, it's just a ratio thing and I get really confused with ratios!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 12, 2011, 01:31:34 pm
Unless someone better suited comes along, I guess I could try to help! Is it a rates question?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 12, 2011, 01:39:47 pm
YOU GOT IT.  I will just PM that shit to you...I know how to do it in other contexts, it's just in this context.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 12, 2011, 04:52:52 pm
Mavis do you remember what the biol exam was marked out of?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 12, 2011, 11:08:16 pm
Mavis do you remember what the biol exam was marked out of?

It's 180 and then it gets converted to a mark out of 60, as far as I know.
Are you counting up how many marks you definitely lost?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on November 15, 2011, 11:50:51 pm
Sorry if this has been already asked but how are we suppose to enrol into subjects like BCMB20005 - Techniques in Molecular Science if chem10004 is a pre req, and we havent received our results yet? the study planner isnt allowing me to enrol :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 am
The study planner is bugged and useless, you should email IT/the faculty head
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on November 16, 2011, 09:23:54 am
Sorry if this has been already asked but how are we suppose to enrol into subjects like BCMB20005 - Techniques in Molecular Science if chem10004 is a pre req, and we havent received our results yet? the study planner isnt allowing me to enrol :(
You will get the option to enrol once you receive the Chem 2 results. For re-enrolment you just need to enrol in at least one subject before the dateline (I think)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: RainerWolfram on November 16, 2011, 09:58:11 am
Hi,

I need to fill out a prerequisite waiver form for one of my software engineering units which is my breadth. I was wondering, since I am a Commerce student, do I need to hand my form to the Commerce Student Centre or the Engineering Student Centre?

Thanks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 16, 2011, 11:52:46 am
Hi,

I need to fill out a prerequisite waiver form for one of my software engineering units which is my breadth. I was wondering, since I am a Commerce student, do I need to hand my form to the Commerce Student Centre or the Engineering Student Centre?

Thanks.

You need to get the signature of the coordinator of the subject you are trying to enroll in (software eng I guess?) and then hand the form to your own faculty for it to be processed (commerce).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 16, 2011, 05:18:04 pm
For re-enrolment you just need to enrol in at least one subject before the dateline (I think)

Yep.  At least one.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 16, 2011, 05:26:56 pm
Do you think this semester they will stick to the 'no results released until December 2' claims or will there be utter chaos and unpredictable refreshing obsessions surrounding the release of results yet again?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 16, 2011, 05:58:02 pm
Do you think this semester they will stick to the 'no results released until December 2' claims or will there be utter chaos and unpredictable refreshing obsessions surrounding the release of results yet again?

Nah probs like last semester.  December 2 is the last day when results are released.  But up until then, the results will come out bit by bit.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 16, 2011, 06:50:37 pm
Do you think this semester they will stick to the 'no results released until December 2' claims or will there be utter chaos and unpredictable refreshing obsessions surrounding the release of results yet again?

Nah probs like last semester.  December 2 is the last day when results are released.  But up until then, the results will come out bit by bit.

Yeah I remember one subject releasing results less than two weeks after the exam or something, and the exam was in first week.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 16, 2011, 07:19:36 pm
Hello! :)

Just a question...is it alright to do biochem and techniques in the same semester? Or would it be better to do biochem first and then techniques the next semester?

Thanks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 16, 2011, 07:38:17 pm
It's probably better to do biochem first, then techniques later if you ask me.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 17, 2011, 01:12:03 am
As someone who had a two hour completely multiple choice exam on the first day, in a subject with only around 350 students, I shall expect my result promptly portal!

However, it is the psychology department, so I really shouldn't expect anything.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 01:25:21 am
As someone who had a two hour completely multiple choice exam on the first day, in a subject with only around 350 students, I shall expect my result promptly portal!

However, it is the psychology department, so I really shouldn't expect anything.

Pretty sure maths is worse. My geometry lecturer had 2 assignments to correct for around 20 kids... since week 9. He left for a trip today. He told everyone that he only managed to correct 1 assignment before he left, so we weren't getting the 2nd one back. >_>
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 17, 2011, 01:52:57 am
Hahahaha, oh god.  I hate it when academics just leave.  That happened to me last year with my Prof Writing folio - I sent in my envelope AND IT WAS NEVER RETURNED TO ME, NEVER.  Because my tutor just went to Sweden instead.  It's not fair - that folio was worth 80% and while I never plan to write professionally or otherwise again, I would like comments on the countless hours I spent trying to write bullshit for him to correct.

If I have to dedicate several hundred hours to writing the crap, you can dedicate a few extra minutes to writing a comment after you briefly assess it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 09:01:47 am
As someone who had a two hour completely multiple choice exam on the first day, in a subject with only around 350 students, I shall expect my result promptly portal!

However, it is the psychology department, so I really shouldn't expect anything.

December 9, kthxbye
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 17, 2011, 04:23:11 pm
MD offers are out, anyone happy?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 05:28:23 pm
MD offers are out, anyone happy?

Yup!

On another note, damn physiology exam today.. Stayed up all night cramming which made it worse cause I think my brain stopped working. Misread my student number/seat number and everything...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 05:37:16 pm
Yeah, same, happy. What clinical zone did you get dc, I can't remember if you said?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 05:59:17 pm
I got zone 2. What about you? Are you a PDer or mainly a lurker like me?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 06:46:33 pm
I mostly post to troll people because the people who regularly post there seriously piss me off, but sometimes I do actually contribute.

I'm in zone1, which is both good and bad I guess.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 17, 2011, 06:54:42 pm
Hey guys!

So I want to withdraw from techniques, as I put it for semester 1 but now want to change it to semester 2, but it's not letting me. :/

Does anyone know why?

Thanks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 07:01:30 pm
Hey guys!

So I want to withdraw from techniques, as I put it for semester 1 but now want to change it to semester 2, but it's not letting me. :/

Does anyone know why?

Thanks

Cause the system is crap. You need to talk to the EPSC (where the ERC is).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 17, 2011, 07:04:18 pm
Hey guys!

So I want to withdraw from techniques, as I put it for semester 1 but now want to change it to semester 2, but it's not letting me. :/

Does anyone know why?

Thanks

Cause the system is crap. You need to talk to the EPSC (where the ERC is).

Fantastic. :/ Can I call them instead of going there?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 07:06:56 pm
You probably can, though I haven't tried. You can email them, though sometimes they will just...never reply. Most of the time they reply within a month though... hah.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 07:07:36 pm
Under no circumstances should you ever use phone or email to contact UoM support services.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 17, 2011, 07:14:12 pm
Ok, I think I'll go there Monday then.

Thanks guys! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 07:22:21 pm
Few days ago I had to withdraw out of a subject I enrolled in for next year, would let me withdraw out of everything subject I had enrolled in for next year, EXCEPT the subject I wanted to withdraw from! I ended up just withdrawing from everything and putting all my subjects back in.

Well done to Russ and dc302 as well! Hopefully I can follow in your footsteps for 2013 :D. Need an improvement in my GAMSAT though (64 Melbourne weighted), why can't Melbourne weight it like everyone else :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 17, 2011, 07:38:10 pm
How did you withdraw from everything if you couldn't withdraw the one you wanted?

Oh, congratulations Russ and dc302! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 07:43:17 pm
I have absolutely no idea. When I withdrew from one, it came up with an error, but then when I tried to tick all the boxes and withdraw them all, it works :S (this is using withdraw from a subject on the admin page)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: phagocyte on November 17, 2011, 07:47:01 pm
Oh wow. Thank you!

It worked!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 07:48:09 pm
Haha no worries. Anything to save anyone having to deal with the EPSC around this time!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 17, 2011, 08:18:43 pm
Congratulations dc and Russ!
Dont suppose you could share what marks it took to be admitted?

EDIT: Im sympathetic to your feelings on frequent PD posters  ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 08:21:17 pm
I think people were getting in with mid-low 60 GAMSATs and mid-low 6 GPAs, but you'd expect they'd have performed very strongly in the interview. It's also a good idea to note that your clinical zone is influenced by your entry marks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 17, 2011, 08:23:40 pm
I think people were getting in with mid-low 60 GAMSATs and mid-low 6 GPAs, but you'd expect they'd have performed very strongly in the interview. It's also a good idea to note that your clinical zone is influenced by your entry marks
I did not know that, is there a link which elaborates more on that point?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 08:25:12 pm
Really? I thought clinical zones were purely randomly assigned (with some influence from your preferences) for most people (ERC excluded). More motivation to do better then! Though I think rural placement might be fun.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 08:25:24 pm
Not as far as I know. They combine a whole lot of stuff, like marks, place type, gender etc.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 08:29:25 pm
Oh right, that would make sense actually, cause there would be a chance that one hospital could get lots of students with high marks, while others get students with lower marks. Same thing with gender, place type etc. Do you know if it's like highest mark = more likely to get first preference or is it random in that sense.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 17, 2011, 08:35:08 pm
I would imagine those with higher marks will be first to fill the quota of their preference, is there any indication of what marks one would require for zone 1?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 08:38:41 pm
Guys relax, the entire marks thing was a casual comment - they play a small part and there's no information on how they get used.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on November 17, 2011, 08:45:16 pm
Haha I think all this worrying about scores and my current exams have got me a bit on edge. Last exam tomorrow though! Probably should be studying without the cricket on, but oh well :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 17, 2011, 09:10:28 pm
I wish they released interview scores.. :( The lowest CSP place I remember seeing (non rural) was like 6.6 GPA with 65 gamsat.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 17, 2011, 09:27:58 pm
Yeah, getting interview scores would be awesome, if USyd released them then I don't see why others can't :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anti on November 17, 2011, 10:29:21 pm
Congratulations on getting in guys!  Hope you really enjoy medicine  :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 18, 2011, 12:17:09 am
I mostly post to troll people

Wat a tr0ll
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 18, 2011, 05:02:45 pm
I wish they released interview scores.. :( The lowest CSP place I remember seeing (non rural) was like 6.6 GPA with 65 gamsat.
That seems a little high
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 18, 2011, 05:05:04 pm
I mostly post to troll people

Wat a tr0ll
Nothing gets them off more than 'killing unicorns', that whole site has an unhealthy infatuation with small fuzzy cuddly things
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 18, 2011, 05:07:42 pm
I wish they released interview scores.. :( The lowest CSP place I remember seeing (non rural) was like 6.6 GPA with 65 gamsat.
That seems a little high

mmm, not really, it seems kinda accurate. offer scores went up a lot because of the new system
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 18, 2011, 05:14:55 pm
Would you go interstate if you didn't get into UoM?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 18, 2011, 08:38:51 pm
I'm having enough trouble deciding whether or not I want to go to UoM. It's an entirely personal decision to make, depends on what you think/want
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 22, 2011, 12:44:04 am
Russ what are your other options, if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 22, 2011, 08:29:28 am
Honours and then into a PhD. I emailed the guy I was super keen on working with yesterday and regretfully declined, which was a shame because the project was really quite interesting (and WEHI give you $5000 lol). So yeah, I figure I'll start the MD and if I really don't like it then the transition to research is easier than the transition from research into med.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 22, 2011, 12:22:30 pm
I figure I'll start the MD and if I really don't like it then the transition to research is easier than the transition from research into med.

Good choice!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 22, 2011, 03:06:50 pm
Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on November 22, 2011, 04:59:14 pm
Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?

haha, i'll let him fill in he details but in short: lots and lots of overloading and the fact that he did UMEP jap
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 22, 2011, 06:42:15 pm
I prefer my explanation, which is that he's crazy.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 22, 2011, 07:49:17 pm
Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?

Yeah in science, maths is one of the very few majors you can complete in 2 years because most other subjects have a specific sequence of subjects you have to follow. I don't think there are many others, if at all, in science.

Honours and then into a PhD. I emailed the guy I was super keen on working with yesterday and regretfully declined, which was a shame because the project was really quite interesting (and WEHI give you $5000 lol). So yeah, I figure I'll start the MD and if I really don't like it then the transition to research is easier than the transition from research into med.

I see, fair enough. I'm going to miss maths too :P

Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?

haha, i'll let him fill in he details but in short: lots and lots of overloading and the fact that he did UMEP jap

Actually it was MUEP jap :P At least I think it was, the monash one.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on November 22, 2011, 08:25:20 pm
I presume there is a strong correlation between MUEP jap and math ability?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: happyhappyland on November 22, 2011, 10:26:11 pm
Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?

Yeah in science, maths is one of the very few majors you can complete in 2 years because most other subjects have a specific sequence of subjects you have to follow. I don't think there are many others, if at all, in science.

Honours and then into a PhD. I emailed the guy I was super keen on working with yesterday and regretfully declined, which was a shame because the project was really quite interesting (and WEHI give you $5000 lol). So yeah, I figure I'll start the MD and if I really don't like it then the transition to research is easier than the transition from research into med.

I see, fair enough. I'm going to miss maths too :P

Dc- This has been bothering me for a while, how is it that your BSc is 2 years? Is it possible through pure maths major?

haha, i'll let him fill in he details but in short: lots and lots of overloading and the fact that he did UMEP jap

Actually it was MUEP jap :P At least I think it was, the monash one.

Can u list out the subject you took, because that is amazing doing science for two years then getting into melb md.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 23, 2011, 12:03:39 am
Yr 12: Japanese 5, Japanese 6 (at monash)

2010
sem 1 (4 subjects): Accelerated Maths 1, Chemistry 1, Physics 1 (normal stream), Japanese 4A
sem 2 (5 subjects): Accelerated Maths 2, Genetics (biology 2), Physics 2 (science and tech.), Japanese 4B, Group Theory & Lin. Alg.

2011
summer (2 subjects): Chemistry 2, Engineering Maths
sem 1 (6 subjects): Complex Analysis, Vector Calculus, Quantum Mechanics & Spec. Rel, Biochemistry, Variations in Japanese, Algebra
sem 2 (5 subjects): Metric & Hilbert Spaces, Geometry, Partial Differential Equations, Physiology, Anatomy

I think that's right.

edit: and in case you're wondering, I got permission to skip biology 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bangbros on November 23, 2011, 01:02:45 am
lol, that's a crazy 2011. 13 subjects! How'd you manage to get permission to do all that?!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 23, 2011, 02:50:57 pm
Now dc is going to make every fresh UoM goer want to complete their bachelor in two years.  Setting the trend.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 23, 2011, 03:08:13 pm
Now dc is going to make every fresh UoM goer want to complete their bachelor in two years.  Setting the trend.

I know right. :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on November 23, 2011, 04:57:17 pm
So if a subject disappears off the study plan it means the results have been uploaded? One subject has disappeared from mine but there's no result!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Elnino_Gerrard on November 23, 2011, 04:58:19 pm
Now dc is going to make every fresh UoM goer want to complete their bachelor in two years.  Setting the trend.

I know right. :D

Haha no chance in hell. I would die.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 23, 2011, 05:12:14 pm
So if a subject disappears off the study plan it means the results have been uploaded? One subject has disappeared from mine but there's no result!!

Subjects shouldn't be disappearing from your study plan, that would be really bad. If you mean the LMS, then yeah it usually means results are out. Maybe just wait a bit?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on November 23, 2011, 05:26:49 pm
So if a subject disappears off the study plan it means the results have been uploaded? One subject has disappeared from mine but there's no result!!

Subjects shouldn't be disappearing from your study plan, that would be really bad. If you mean the LMS, then yeah it usually means results are out. Maybe just wait a bit?
Oh yeah, I meant it disappeared from the small box in the Portal
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 23, 2011, 06:26:21 pm
So if a subject disappears off the study plan it means the results have been uploaded? One subject has disappeared from mine but there's no result!!

Same thing happened to me, then it randomly came back.  Portal is useless...

Last year, the first year bio results came out at around this time, so expecting them very soon.  Probably on Friday.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 23, 2011, 07:20:53 pm
So if a subject disappears off the study plan it means the results have been uploaded? One subject has disappeared from mine but there's no result!!

Same thing happened to me, then it randomly came back.  Portal is useless...

Last year, the first year bio results came out at around this time, so expecting them very soon.  Probably on Friday.

Results usually come out on the study plan before anywhere else so make sure to check there if you think results may be out!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 23, 2011, 07:22:35 pm
Now I'm checking my study plan, even though none of my subjects will be there...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on November 23, 2011, 08:28:28 pm
One of my subjects has results out already, waiting on the rest.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 23, 2011, 08:42:05 pm
That's fast. And here I still have an exam on friday..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 23, 2011, 11:51:08 pm
U GUYS U R SCARING ME.  I had to order a results statement yesterday and I was wondering if there would be some glitch where they had been HIDING the information from us and suddenly it would miraculously appear.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 24, 2011, 02:52:16 pm
Actually I tend to check it somewhat frequently too.. results statements are usually like, up to a day slower than the study plan as well.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on November 25, 2011, 11:02:59 am
And all my results are out...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: happyhappyland on November 25, 2011, 12:19:46 pm
And all my results are out...

What subjects are you doing?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 25, 2011, 12:56:09 pm
FFS hurry up!!!!

Bio results were out this time last year...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on November 25, 2011, 12:58:41 pm
FFS hurry up!!!!

Bio results were out this time last year...

Hold up, how do you access them? Portal says from Dec 2, does it come through my grades or something?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 25, 2011, 01:03:22 pm
Oh come on, the exam period isn't even over yet...

And lex, if you log into your portal and check your study plan, you can see the results for your subjects once they go into the system (ie before they're available through the My Results service)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 25, 2011, 01:10:53 pm
Oh come on, the exam period isn't even over yet...

And lex, if you log into your portal and check your study plan, you can see the results for your subjects once they go into the system (ie before they're available through the My Results service)

BUT last year... :p

And yeah, you will know when a result is out because the subject disappears from the Course and Subjects/Enrollment Details box in the portal.
   
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on November 25, 2011, 04:07:28 pm
And all my results are out...

What subjects are you doing?
Exactly Solvable Models, Condensed Matter Physics, Particle Physics.

I don't know if any undergraduate subjects have results available yet.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 25, 2011, 04:13:54 pm
Psychology is removedddd, officially back to just 112.5 points.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 25, 2011, 05:46:27 pm
Psychology is removedddd, officially back to just 112.5 points.

Does that mean that they are letting you overenroll like you wanted?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 25, 2011, 06:53:40 pm
Psychology is removedddd, officially back to just 112.5 points.

Does that mean that they are letting you overenroll like you wanted?

Nup because then I would have just kept the other subjects there.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: happyhappyland on November 25, 2011, 08:45:57 pm
Psychology is removedddd, officially back to just 112.5 points.

Does that mean that they are letting you overenroll like you wanted?

Nup because then I would have just kept the other subjects there.

My psychology is still there! Probably havnt entered in all the results yet.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dc302 on November 25, 2011, 08:55:20 pm
Finally finished exams..and some people have their results already.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 26, 2011, 01:42:26 am
Psychology is removedddd, officially back to just 112.5 points.

Does that mean that they are letting you overenroll like you wanted?

Nup because then I would have just kept the other subjects there.

My psychology is still there! Probably havnt entered in all the results yet.

Oh no, I did Psych last year so what I mean is I amended my advanced standing and got it removed >: D to make way for other majors!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 04, 2011, 11:31:40 am
Anyone who has done UNIB20007 Genetics, Health, and Society, could you please write a review?

EDIT: Shouldn't we sticky this thread?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on December 04, 2011, 12:15:26 pm
I'll write one later when I get a chance.
As for stickying this thread, nah, no reason to
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 09, 2011, 07:59:34 pm
I bought Lehingers Biochemistry (4th) today for $8. I was going to buy 5th edition (currently used) but someone was selling it for $8?? Barely used too. Those taken Biochem before, think it will be suitable for the current course?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on December 09, 2011, 09:34:25 pm
You absolutely do not need to refer to the Textbook AT ALL!!!

YOU JUST WASTED 8 DOLLARS!!!
 
But in Biochem we are merely learning about the principles so i'm sure the 4th edition will suffice. He even said so in the introductory lecture.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 09, 2011, 10:15:43 pm
Oh noes! Well at least it wasn't ~$100, or whatever riduculous price the book store charges.

Anyone know of a nice lv 2 breadth/science semester 2 subject with low hours and relatively even assessment?

EDIT: Wasted? Not so. I could easily resell for ~$20 thus making a $12 profit!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on December 10, 2011, 09:26:44 am
Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 10, 2011, 11:18:47 am
Ah, that ones level 3 but it looks promising. Was the tutorial paper/blog marked harshly?

EDIT: Do you think someone could handle biochem, human phys and research based phys in one semester?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on December 10, 2011, 12:00:26 pm
Nothing wrong with level 3. And the marking is pretty fair, just put effort in and you'll get good marks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on December 10, 2011, 03:52:45 pm

EDIT: Do you think someone could handle biochem, human phys and research based phys in one semester?

Well, I am.

PS: Mike, my friend says she doesn't have her notes.  Not only will this disappoint you, but me also, because I don't even know what I am meant to be studying for Physics -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 20, 2011, 04:27:57 pm
Has anyone taken subject: BTCH20002 Biotechnology?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on December 20, 2011, 05:23:20 pm
OMG THE SUBJECT CODE IS 'BITCH' I can only assume what it will be like.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on December 20, 2011, 08:36:37 pm
OMG THE SUBJECT CODE IS 'BITCH' I can only assume what it will be like.
Really? I dont think it appears that bad.

EDIT: Oh 'BTCH'..just got that ;D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on December 20, 2011, 10:27:20 pm
OMG THE SUBJECT CODE IS 'BITCH' I can only assume what it will be like.

Is it sad that I spent almost 2 minutes doubled over at this?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 16, 2012, 11:15:09 am
Reminding new students that this thread exists
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on February 16, 2012, 11:30:24 am
During O-Week, seems Thursday and Friday are reserved for looking at clubs around Uni. Does that mean we don't have to go? Also I see that the Club expos are from 11-3. Surely we don't need 4 hours to see everything?

(yea i know stupid question but i wanna know lol)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 16, 2012, 11:51:50 am
During O-Week, seems Thursday and Friday are reserved for looking at clubs around Uni. Does that mean we don't have to go? Also I see that the Club expos are from 11-3. Surely we don't need 4 hours to see everything?

(yea i know stupid question but i wanna know lol)

You don't have to go, however something i would highly recommend going to is the CSC pub crawl which is on thursday. If you go on thursday, don't bother going on friday unless there is an event bring run that that that you're interested in going to, or unless you just wanna hang around with a few friends chilling at uni- they'll be stuff to do if you do rock up (read: more free stuff).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on February 16, 2012, 12:58:30 pm
Science "Historical Tour of Local Establishments" >>> Commerce Pub Crawl. Not that I'm biased or anything.

And note the inverted commas, everyone.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 16, 2012, 03:51:23 pm
Science "Historical Tour of Local Establishments" >>> Commerce Pub Crawl. Not that I'm biased or anything.

And note the inverted commas, everyone.

haha, all the "Historical Tour of Local Establishments" are good haha, i reckon just go with the faculty you're a part of cos funnily enough you'll meet more ppl doing your course
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 17, 2012, 08:43:30 pm
i'm just wondering if you guys use separate notebooks for lectures and tutorials for the one subject???
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 18, 2012, 09:41:58 am
personal preference but personally i wouldn't advise it, also most lectures have lecture slides you take notes on, rather than take note from scracth-again though, each to their own
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on February 18, 2012, 01:40:35 pm
I never take notes on da slides, only for chem.

Edit: anyone doing RBP, do you have the Monday prac as even a possibility on your timetable?  It's still mentioned in the final 2012 schedule for this semester but the class is not there when I wish to register into it...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Blakhitman on February 18, 2012, 05:28:12 pm
when do summer semester results come out?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on February 18, 2012, 05:35:19 pm
personal preference but personally i wouldn't advise it, also most lectures have lecture slides you take notes on, rather than take note from scracth-again though, each to their own

In sem 1, I ended up taking notes on the slides for chem and biol and that worked out nicely except I got tired of having to print all the lectures (I did it double sided to save paper which takes effort to do). I had an exercise book for the tutes which was okay.

I then tried writing my own notes in semester 2, but stopped doing that halfway through the semester as I always missed content with the fast lecturers and had to rewrite crap. For the tutes, I wrote on the LHS pages of my notes book, but that ended up messy.

I ended up with the same marks +/- 1% so you could probably do whatever you prefer.

Going to try a new system this semester that combines the best of both options.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on February 19, 2012, 10:14:26 am
In sem 1, I ended up taking notes on the slides for chem and biol and that worked out nicely except I got tired of having to print all the lectures (I did it double sided to save paper which takes effort to do). I had an exercise book for the tutes which was okay.

Where did you store the printed lecture slides, out of curiosity? Just wondering, as I imagine it'd get really inconvenient to have heaps of loose-leaf sheets floating around...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on February 19, 2012, 10:31:55 am
I had one of those 2-3 ring binder books and used a hole puncher to make holes in the printed slides. As you can imagine, this gets quite annoying in the end, which is probably why I stopped doing it in sem 2 :P

Alternatively, you could probably use plastic pockets instead of punching holes but then you lose the ability to easily read the slides.

Another issue is that half through the semester, you end up with 200+ pages (keeping in mind I was printing double side, 6 slides/page) making it heavy.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 19, 2012, 11:18:36 am
I stacked them in my IKEA storage thing, you only need to take the most recent one to uni
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on February 19, 2012, 11:20:29 am
I stacked them in my IKEA storage thing, you only need to take the most recent one to uni

Yeah okay. So like, print out the latest one, and only take that in for the lecture, while storing the others somewhere at home?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 19, 2012, 01:09:18 pm
whoa that's going to be a lot of printed stuff that i don't think you would barely give a second glance...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on February 19, 2012, 02:01:21 pm
I stacked them in my IKEA storage thing, you only need to take the most recent one to uni

Yeah okay. So like, print out the latest one, and only take that in for the lecture, while storing the others somewhere at home?
Although you may want to take more of them if you have the tute on, as they tend to cover the previous week's material.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: izzykose on February 19, 2012, 02:21:22 pm
Are there any pub crawl's, clubs or night events organised for o-week?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 19, 2012, 03:02:20 pm
Are there any pub crawl's, clubs or night events organised for o-week?

It's just O-week man not mardi gras....
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: izzykose on February 19, 2012, 04:48:52 pm
Are there any pub crawl's, clubs or night events organised for o-week?

It's just O-week man not mardi gras....

Thanks for that..
But O-week for other Universities, from what i have been told, involves events at night following the formal planned events in the day. I figured Unimelb would be similar. Also, the Royal Melbourne Hotel AKA Bang nightclub was advertising an O week event specifically for Melbourne Uni. I just was asking if anyone knew or any other similar functions or whether others attending Melbourne Uni for a few years could confirm whether anything like that happens. If not, i didnt go on the fucking camp. :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 19, 2012, 05:42:27 pm
There will be events happening, go poke around all the facebook society groups for invites

eg http://www.facebook.com/events/153464981439782/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on February 19, 2012, 07:42:48 pm
Do the new timetabling spots open up at midnight tonight or 10am tomorrow...?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 19, 2012, 07:47:11 pm
10am
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 19, 2012, 11:11:45 pm
Are there any pub crawl's, clubs or night events organised for o-week?

It's just O-week man not mardi gras....


Yeah two pubs crawls, a commerce one and science one, both on thursday arvo, these will both probably end up at a club of some sort-for those that survive that is haha, and then AA defs does a club night, i'm sure there are also other club events going on, ask around during o-week, you'll find some to go to haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: berryy on February 19, 2012, 11:22:35 pm
going from ^
make sure you join Aa if you enjoy hanging with asians. they had a great showbag last year and fun events
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 20, 2012, 08:19:04 am
oh yeah, sidenote: AA=Australasian association (so yeah, all the asians join), not Alcoholics Anonymous :P Although, granted for some they will probably be in both.....
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: seretide on February 20, 2012, 02:08:46 pm
Does anyone know how long we are with our host for tomorrow, like a few hours or?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on February 20, 2012, 02:39:47 pm
Does anyone know how long we are with our host for tomorrow, like a few hours or?

I think just 1 hour? from 10-11 when they'll be showing us around the campus :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 20, 2012, 03:40:01 pm
the brochure we got said 10am - 2pm
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on February 20, 2012, 04:57:00 pm
Does anyone know how long we are with our host for tomorrow, like a few hours or?

I think just 1 hour? from 10-11 when they'll be showing us around the campus :)

In previous years the host will decide how long to keep you for but you're free to leave anytime
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on February 20, 2012, 05:27:58 pm
Does anyone know how long we are with our host for tomorrow, like a few hours or?

i personally won't be with my group for more that about 2 hours, that's plenty of time to get around the campus, if the want to hang for a bit long that's fine, essentially hosts can keep the for as long or short as they want
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: kamil9876 on February 20, 2012, 07:23:03 pm
Remember, this is not high school. Back when I had orientation I eventually got sick of following a bunch of ppl around in a crowd, and after seeing someone light up a smoke right in front of my group host I realised "oh right, freedom" and walked away and did my own thing.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 20, 2012, 07:51:04 pm
Ugh, so many first years tomorrow :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 20, 2012, 07:55:44 pm
Remember, this is not high school. Back when I had orientation I eventually got sick of following a bunch of ppl around in a crowd, and after seeing someone light up a smoke right in front of my group host I realised "oh right, freedom" and walked away and did my own thing.

That made me laugh, so true.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 20, 2012, 08:17:34 pm
Ugh, so many first years tomorrow :(

haha you guys call us JAFFYS :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mikee65 on February 21, 2012, 11:54:58 am
Remember, this is not high school. Back when I had orientation I eventually got sick of following a bunch of ppl around in a crowd, and after seeing someone light up a smoke right in front of my group host I realised "oh right, freedom" and walked away and did my own thing.

That made me laugh, so true.

I think I lasted about 10 minutes before leaving mine!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 09:03:07 pm
well today was.....pointless -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 09:09:10 pm
well today was.....pointless -.-


I disagree, today was pretty cool. Making friends, going around campus and the freebies, these three things is what "orientation" is all about for mine, tommorow is the more formal subject orientation. Btw, I'm not Asian, now give me all your free stuff :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on February 21, 2012, 09:13:16 pm
i AM asian. and gimme all your free stuff :D

OFFICEWORKs!!! i <3 you!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 09:20:41 pm
i AM asian. and gimme all your free stuff :D

OFFICEWORKs!!! i <3 you!!

What was in the officeworks bag? The line was massive.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 09:27:42 pm
well today was.....pointless -.-


I disagree, today was pretty cool. Making friends, going around campus and the freebies, these three things is what "orientation" is all about for mine, tommorow is the more formal subject orientation. Btw, I'm not Asian, now give me all your free stuff :D

hahah all i got was a notepad :P you still want that??? too much effort lining up and signing forms to get freebies for me :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 09:49:53 pm
This might be inappropriate and judgemental, but I was expecting much more Asians and 'nerds,' as my friends desrcibe the UoM. I was surprised to see a lot of mini dresses, fake tans and flirtatious women. Every time  I saw a pretty girl I would immediately question their intelligence ( I know I'm coming across as a sexist).

In conclusion, I know think I'll enjoy uni, WAH WAH WEE WAH *Borat voice*
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 09:51:37 pm
Way too many cake faces there >< I know some that came don't even go to UoM, they just came for the free stuff lol :P

hmm flirtatious women you sayy....  towards you??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 10:03:54 pm
Way too many cake faces there >< I know some that came don't even go to UoM, they just came for the free stuff lol :P

hmm flirtatious women you sayy....  towards you??

Ahhh Jinny, one day I'll teach you the tricks of the trade ;) I probably saw it as flirtatious because I come from an all boys school, or maybe most girls are naturally... oh nevermind
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 10:12:34 pm
Way too many cake faces there >< I know some that came don't even go to UoM, they just came for the free stuff lol :P

hmm flirtatious women you sayy....  towards you??

Ahhh Jinny, one day I'll teach you the tricks of the trade ;) I probably saw it as flirtatious because I come from an all boys school, or maybe most girls are naturally... oh nevermind

lol looking forward to it mate :) although i did spend most of my day with two rather pretty looking girls :P i understand how i simple "hi" may look flirtatious to you coming from an all boys school ;) Certainly wouldn't mind if the unimelb girls are open to a bit of 'mingling' :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on February 21, 2012, 10:16:33 pm
It wasn't just you, there were quite a few girls readily flirting.

Also, uni is shaping up to be sick. Anyone else get the free fired rice? And the pizza in the architecture building? (it was soooo delicious and the fact that it was free made it all the more better)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 10:21:56 pm
It wasn't just you, there were quite a few girls readily flirting.

Also, uni is shaping up to be sick. Anyone else get the free fired rice? And the pizza in the architecture building? (it was soooo delicious and the fact that it was free made it all the more better)

where'd you get the 'fired' rice??? sounds hot
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 10:27:00 pm
Way too many cake faces there >< I know some that came don't even go to UoM, they just came for the free stuff lol :P

hmm flirtatious women you sayy....  towards you??

Ahhh Jinny, one day I'll teach you the tricks of the trade ;) I probably saw it as flirtatious because I come from an all boys school, or maybe most girls are naturally... oh nevermind

lol looking forward to it mate :) although i did spend most of my day with two rather pretty looking girls :P i understand how i simple "hi" may look flirtatious to you coming from an all boys school ;) Certainly wouldn't mind if the unimelb girls are open to a bit of 'mingling' :P

Haha yeah, I have to get it through my head that not every girl who says hi 'likes' you. What do you guys reckon the percentage of male and female in a Science course is? In my group there where around 4 males and 16 females.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 21, 2012, 10:28:36 pm
It wasn't just you, there were quite a few girls readily flirting.

Also, uni is shaping up to be sick. Anyone else get the free fired rice? And the pizza in the architecture building? (it was soooo delicious and the fact that it was free made it all the more better)

where'd you get the 'fired' rice??? sounds hot

Haha trololol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on February 21, 2012, 10:54:17 pm
Well, obviously my spelling sucks bawls.

On another note, I got free rice so nenernernernaaanaaa.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: david10d on February 21, 2012, 11:18:40 pm
wtf so many fobs
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 21, 2012, 11:23:00 pm
Way too many cake faces there >< I know some that came don't even go to UoM, they just came for the free stuff lol :P

hmm flirtatious women you sayy....  towards you??

Ahhh Jinny, one day I'll teach you the tricks of the trade ;) I probably saw it as flirtatious because I come from an all boys school, or maybe most girls are naturally... oh nevermind

lol looking forward to it mate :) although i did spend most of my day with two rather pretty looking girls :P i understand how i simple "hi" may look flirtatious to you coming from an all boys school ;) Certainly wouldn't mind if the unimelb girls are open to a bit of 'mingling' :P

Haha yeah, I have to get it through my head that not every girl who says hi 'likes' you. What do you guys reckon the percentage of male and female in a Science course is? In my group there where around 4 males and 16 females.

oh whoaaaa!! you are so damn lucky!!! my group was like 80% male :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on February 21, 2012, 11:23:47 pm
wtf so many fobs

It's funny because I'm not even asian.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on February 21, 2012, 11:54:53 pm
Day 1 Sum Up:

1. Only non-fob in my host group.
2. Biomed library is a brothel.
3. Free condoms.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: berryy on February 21, 2012, 11:56:01 pm
wait till you see the girls who wear stilettos to uni

its mindfuck
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Kanon on February 21, 2012, 11:58:58 pm
Does anyone know of any good feeds around the area?  I love UoM so much, it's just so nice lwrhefgkjhregjkh and I'm going back on the weekend for the TSFX lectures, but oh as soon as there's a break half of the people goto KFC so the line is massive. 


On another note, the best way to pickup some of these flirting science girls is to ask them "Does this rag smell like Chloroform to you"

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 22, 2012, 12:01:04 am
Does anyone know of any good feeds around the area?  I love UoM so much, it's just so nice lwrhefgkjhregjkh and I'm going back on the weekend for the TSFX lectures, but oh as soon as there's a break half of the people goto KFC so the line is massive. 


On another note, the best way to pickup some of these flirting science girls is to ask them "Does this rag smell like Chloroform to you"


WAHHHHH!??? there is KFC at UoM?? whereeee!!?!!?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 22, 2012, 12:02:22 am
Does anyone know of any good feeds around the area?  I love UoM so much, it's just so nice lwrhefgkjhregjkh and I'm going back on the weekend for the TSFX lectures, but oh as soon as there's a break half of the people goto KFC so the line is massive. 


On another note, the best way to pickup some of these flirting science girls is to ask them "Does this rag smell like Chloroform to you"


WAHHHHH!??? there is KFC at UoM?? whereeee!!?!!?

Corner of Swanston and Grattan St..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on February 22, 2012, 12:34:45 am
I can't wait till uni starts! One more semester to go and then IM DONE FOREVER!!!!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 22, 2012, 12:42:57 am
wait till you see the girls who wear stilettos to uni

its mindfuck

Already seen it! Just waiting for one of them to trip over so I can help them up and then 'accidently' fall on top of them.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: berryy on February 22, 2012, 01:13:54 am
wait till you see the girls who wear stilettos to uni

its mindfuck

Already seen it! Just waiting for one of them to trip over so I can help them up and then 'accidently' fall on top of them.

smooth
love it!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on February 22, 2012, 09:48:06 am
Does anyone know of any good feeds around the area?
Easily Pronto's Pizza is the winner, it's at union house but on an outside corner..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on February 22, 2012, 10:00:49 am
Second this. I also quite like the kebabs and Asian food found on the very left (facing sport fields).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 22, 2012, 11:51:49 pm
Can u still join clubs ever after o-week??  Or is it too late
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on February 23, 2012, 12:11:13 am
Can u still join clubs ever after o-week??  Or is it too late
Yes, you can join them at any time.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on February 23, 2012, 02:43:31 am
Had to go to uni during O-Week and I'm not even postgrad, cannot comprehend.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on February 23, 2012, 03:13:08 pm
Is the portal down again? I need to check what books I need..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 23, 2012, 03:25:56 pm
Is the portal down again? I need to check what books I need..

works fine for me.. but you can also check the handbook for the prescribed textbooks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on February 23, 2012, 03:28:15 pm
What's the URL you're using to access it? I'm going onto https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/ and it doesn't work.

Handbook only prescribes books for one subject. :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 23, 2012, 03:31:40 pm
What's the URL you're using to access it? I'm going onto https://app.portal.unimelb.edu.au/ and it doesn't work.

Handbook only prescribes books for one subject. :/

yea that's the exact URL that i used and it loads completely fine :S what's the error you are getting??? maybe try clearing your cache/cookies and retry?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on February 23, 2012, 09:13:16 pm
Anyone who says there's no such thing as a free lunch obviously hasn't been to Melbourne Uni o-week.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: agro on February 23, 2012, 09:49:46 pm
ok, Arts Foundation Subjects, recorded or?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Planck's constant on February 23, 2012, 09:57:20 pm
Anyone who says there's no such thing as a free lunch obviously hasn't been to Melbourne Uni o-week.


Not to mention the free KPMG highlighter pen sets.
I'll be flogging them at Camberwell Market on the weekend :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 24, 2012, 02:41:52 pm
Can u still join clubs ever after o-week??  Or is it too late
Yes, you can join them at any time.

How do i join clubs?? do i just email them or something?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on February 24, 2012, 03:46:39 pm
Go to an event they hold or their room (if they have one) and they should have signup sheets. Especially during the first two weeks there is still a large effort to sign people up.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lilaznkev1n on February 25, 2012, 02:56:19 pm
when i went to the accounting subject orientation session the lecturer said that its tutorials don't start till second week so I'm wondering if this is the same for other subjects?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 25, 2012, 05:39:11 pm
when i went to the accounting subject orientation session the lecturer said that its tutorials don't start till second week so I'm wondering if this is the same for other subjects?

Nope.  Definitely check on the subjects.  Some lecturers will tell you in the first lecture, other will either put it on the LMS or email that sort of info to you.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on February 25, 2012, 06:25:19 pm
Just wondering, with the lecture notes, will Physics 1, Chemistry 1 and Biology of Cells and Organisms have them available for sale at the bookshop like Calculus 1, or will I have to print them all?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 25, 2012, 08:35:47 pm
Just wondering, with the lecture notes, will Physics 1, Chemistry 1 and Biology of Cells and Organisms have them available for sale at the bookshop like Calculus 1, or will I have to print them all?

Do you mean course notes? If so, those are currently on order at the bookshop; I've asked and was told to check back periodically for when they would arrive. You basically mean the theory notes that get put up on the slides during lectures right? They will be on the LMS too, for reference (and printing), but printed and bounded notes exist, just not available in the bookshop as of yet.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ArchieMae on February 25, 2012, 08:44:05 pm
The notes you will buy from the bookshop will be prac manuals, however the lecture slides you will need to download and print yourself whenever they become available on the LMS. Different lecturers will post them whenever they like, sometimes weekly or sometimes even the day before the lecture.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 25, 2012, 08:46:06 pm
Just wondering, with the lecture notes, will Physics 1, Chemistry 1 and Biology of Cells and Organisms have them available for sale at the bookshop like Calculus 1, or will I have to print them all?

Do you mean course notes? If so, those are currently on order at the bookshop; I've asked and was told to check back periodically for when they would arrive. You basically mean the theory notes that get put up on the slides during lectures right? They will be on the LMS too, for reference (and printing), but printed and bounded notes exist, just not available in the bookshop as of yet.

So these are just basically the lecture slides conveniently printed out and binded so you dont have to do it yourself?? Are they worth it??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 25, 2012, 08:49:27 pm
The notes you will buy from the bookshop will be prac manuals, however the lecture slides you will need to download and print yourself whenever they become available on the LMS. Different lecturers will post them whenever they like, sometimes weekly or sometimes even the day before the lecture.

Hmm? Prac manuals from the bookshop, and 'course notes' - what would they be for then?

I assume that course notes (as they call it) are the lecture slides as well as resources that get put up on the LMS, printed and binded into a single book which we then buy, rather than going to all the trouble to print and pre-read before each lecture.

Anyone know for sure?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ArchieMae on February 25, 2012, 09:03:25 pm
"Course notes" would be a generic phrase used by the bookshop to describe stuff you buy - whether it be prac/lab manuals, pre-printed Calc 1 slides or readings in the case of Arts subjects.

The lecturers for bio and chem will often add information to the slides last minute (maybe something relevant to the news or whatever), so they don't compile slides for the whole course at the start. Plus considering you will have upwards of 4 different lecturers during the semester it would be a nightmare for them to organise (and pay for) pre-bound slides for 2000 students.
For bio you will buy a lab manual and for chem you'll get a lab manual and tutorial workbook.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 25, 2012, 09:18:26 pm
"Course notes" would be a generic phrase used by the bookshop to describe stuff you buy - whether it be prac/lab manuals, pre-printed Calc 1 slides or readings in the case of Arts subjects.

The lecturers for bio and chem will often add information to the slides last minute (maybe something relevant to the news or whatever), so they don't compile slides for the whole course at the start. Plus considering you will have upwards of 4 different lecturers during the semester it would be a nightmare for them to organise (and pay for) pre-bound slides for 2000 students.
For bio you will buy a lab manual and for chem you'll get a lab manual and tutorial workbook.

Yep, I think we're mostly on the same page (no pun intended). I assumed that the material that they teach from, in this case the lecture slides, pre-reading material and other bits and pieces would be compiled into a bounded book that we then buy. The annotations and other important things that get added by each lecturer we would then add ourselves, so it would make our lives a lot easier not having to print bit by bit each week. So we'd just bring it along to each lecture and annotate/add notes as each lecture progresses.

I do think that all the lecturers go off the same slides? I've already printed my slides for Calc 1, and flicking through some other subject's course notes in the bookstore, some of them had many pages of just slides. They do tell us that if you can't make it to one lecture, you can attend the later one and the presented content is the same, it's just that you may be slightly behind/ahead than the substitute you attend.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ArchieMae on February 25, 2012, 09:31:10 pm
I do think that all the lecturers go off the same slides? I've already printed my slides for Calc 1, and flicking through some other subject's course notes in the bookstore, some of them had many pages of just slides. They do tell us that if you can't make it to one lecture, you can attend the later one and the presented content is the same, it's just that you may be slightly behind/ahead than the substitute you attend.

Yes you're completely correct about that - but it's only the case for Calculus 1 and 2. For Bio and Chem (can't speak for Physics because I haven't done it) the same lecturer does all the repeat lectures on the given day so they get to the same point each time. However, every few weeks there will be a new lecturer and they'll each have their own slides.
Hope that clears things up a little.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 25, 2012, 09:46:26 pm
I do think that all the lecturers go off the same slides? I've already printed my slides for Calc 1, and flicking through some other subject's course notes in the bookstore, some of them had many pages of just slides. They do tell us that if you can't make it to one lecture, you can attend the later one and the presented content is the same, it's just that you may be slightly behind/ahead than the substitute you attend.

Yes you're completely correct about that - but it's only the case for Calculus 1 and 2. For Bio and Chem (can't speak for Physics because I haven't done it) the same lecturer does all the repeat lectures on the given day so they get to the same point each time. However, every few weeks there will be a new lecturer and they'll each have their own slides.
Hope that clears things up a little.

Oh I see, I'm sure we'll get told for our specific subjects how it'll be done (with lecture notes and that) within the first week.

So if there's a new lecturer once in a while, we'd need to print their notes as they're uploaded to LMS, because I'd assume that they wouldn't be included in the course notes that we simply purchase. I think my confusion is what exactly is in the course notes and how adequate they are to weekly lectures. It seems a real inconvenience then, that we have to regularly print slides and read them before the lecture. More so the printing part, not everyone has a laser jet printer.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 25, 2012, 10:02:01 pm
I dont think you really need to print all the lecture slides, cant u just take notes on a notepad?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 25, 2012, 10:13:52 pm
I dont think you really need to print all the lecture slides, cant u just take notes on a notepad?

Yeah, but (for me) it's better to have the info on paper in front of you so you can just annotate, rather than extract and copy what's being displayed and missing out on some of what's being said.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 25, 2012, 10:21:06 pm
Course notes for.biology will not have lecture slides in them, the lecture slides will go up on the lms prior to the lecture and its up to you to print or not
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Elnino_Gerrard on February 26, 2012, 04:38:54 am
So having a late confusion. Project management (2 hour lecture) , eng computation(1 hr) have a lecture clash on friday. They both have only one respective lecture on that day. My plan was to lectopia eng comp as ill be going to the other 2 lectures in the week and PM has only one lecture the whole week.
What do you guys think of that?. is it ok to lectopia eng comp? For people who have done it,Will i miss much if i lectopia and not attend?
May Drop PM otherwise.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 26, 2012, 03:40:19 pm
So tomorrow is the first day of uni :) i only have lectures and was wondering if i should bother bringing my heavy textbooks along with me.

and also for tutorials are we supposed to bring our textbooks?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on February 26, 2012, 03:51:27 pm
So tomorrow is the first day of uni :) i only have lectures and was wondering if i should bother bringing my heavy textbooks along with me.

and also for tutorials are we supposed to bring our textbooks?

From what i've heard, you don't need to bring them at all, I think it's for references and stuff at home. I'm probably wrong
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on February 26, 2012, 04:01:06 pm
That's correct. Textbooks stay at home.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 26, 2012, 04:30:10 pm
Thanks guys :) the biology textbook alone weighs a ton!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on February 26, 2012, 08:44:24 pm
Who do I go to to get a locker?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on February 26, 2012, 08:48:11 pm
Who do I go to to get a locker?

Refer to http://union.unimelb.edu.au/union-you/2011-locker-hire
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on February 26, 2012, 08:56:42 pm
um...for comm tutorials in the first week...do we have to go? apparently there aren't any..but not sure if we need to attend the class...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 26, 2012, 09:02:27 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.

But make sure and check your LMS; I hear some subjects do have them running in the first week. Bio or chem, I can't remember.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on February 26, 2012, 09:26:22 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 26, 2012, 09:34:14 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

Yeah, skip it, it's basically a free time slot :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 26, 2012, 10:05:52 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

Yeah, skip it, it's basically a free time slot :)

Does it say anywhere on the unimelb website? Chinese has a seminar. I'm not sure if that's on or not and there isn't a link to the LMS for it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 26, 2012, 10:09:49 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

Yeah, skip it, it's basically a free time slot :)

Does it say anywhere on the unimelb website? Chinese has a seminar. I'm not sure if that's on or not and there isn't a link to the LMS for it.

No; the intro classes during o-week would have given you that info, and it's different for each subject. The lecturer should have put the LMS up by now for your subject, but check back periodically tomorrow. When is the seminar?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 26, 2012, 10:16:57 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

Yeah, skip it, it's basically a free time slot :)

Does it say anywhere on the unimelb website? Chinese has a seminar. I'm not sure if that's on or not and there isn't a link to the LMS for it.

No; the intro classes during o-week would have given you that info, and it's different for each subject. The lecturer should have put the LMS up by now for your subject, but check back periodically tomorrow. When is the seminar?

There isn't an intro session for Chinese and the seminar is tomorrow at 1. So you're saying for all the subjects that don't have tutes running during the first week, they would've told you that during the intro session?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 26, 2012, 10:21:29 pm
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

Yeah, skip it, it's basically a free time slot :)

Does it say anywhere on the unimelb website? Chinese has a seminar. I'm not sure if that's on or not and there isn't a link to the LMS for it.

No; the intro classes during o-week would have given you that info, and it's different for each subject. The lecturer should have put the LMS up by now for your subject, but check back periodically tomorrow. When is the seminar?

There isn't an intro session for Chinese and the seminar is tomorrow at 1. So you're saying for all the subjects that don't have tutes running during the first week, they would've told you that during the intro session?

Yeah, and there would have been an announcement on the LMS. But that applies for pracs, tutes, problem-based and workshops. Since you have a seminar, which I assume is like a tute (?) then you may not have to attend. But don't quote me on that, turn up tomorrow just in case, or, if you have a Chinese lecture before 1pm it would be best to ask then.

But honestly, I've never heard of seminars.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Ematuro on February 27, 2012, 09:26:31 am
Lectures are running; tutes, problem-based, workshop, practical etc aren't running.


yeah, for comm tutes, they're not running. but does that mean we skip the tut class? or we still attend? not sure :S

On the LMS, it says Introductory Microeconomics is running though (the tute)
Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simonhu81292 on February 27, 2012, 10:20:34 am
Yeah~ economics do run their first tutes  ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 27, 2012, 04:43:09 pm
almost fell asleep in my physics lecture -.- guy spent about 30 minutes endorsing his own software (it has 4 million users apparently) and listing all these great things he is researching and is a part of -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 04:54:33 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on February 27, 2012, 05:40:39 pm
Are you in fundamentals Jinny? He tried so hard to get a laugh and failed miserably.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on February 27, 2012, 05:41:28 pm
Should I bother going to the academic skills workshops? Are they useful or pointless?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ReganM on February 27, 2012, 06:11:07 pm
Oh god, physics fundamentals!!!

I hope this guy gets more interesting, my friend and I were playng paddocks...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on February 27, 2012, 06:13:58 pm
He makes me want to chop off my own balls
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on February 27, 2012, 06:20:23 pm
Accelerated Maths:

Lecturer was pretty good...took AGES walking in the rain because couldn't find the david caro building and apparently it was just the physics building ==

Really ceebs printing out lecture slides every lecture...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: david10d on February 27, 2012, 07:06:41 pm
calc 2 lecture was the biggest sausage fest..


can't say i was surprised though
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peanuts11 on February 27, 2012, 07:08:50 pm
I just swapped out of Accelerated Maths for Calc 2, may as well get the easy H1.

david10d, the subject was so fucking easy it was lol, and there were 3-4 good girls around me?

Everyone  I know taught me a better motto than I had with regards to uni and 'broadening your learning'.

"Take the easiest route possible to get where you need to go and go out as much possible as you can."
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on February 27, 2012, 07:14:47 pm
Oh god, physics fundamentals!!!

I hope this guy gets more interesting, my friend and I were playng paddocks...

He doesn't.

And yay, I also swapped out of shit.  An excellent first day obviously...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: david10d on February 27, 2012, 07:19:10 pm
you must have pretty low standards then bruv


all i saw was bad bad bad bad then all dudes
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 27, 2012, 07:27:27 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 27, 2012, 07:34:10 pm
Are you in fundamentals Jinny? He tried so hard to get a laugh and failed miserably.

yup :)

Hilarious watching him trying to get a laugh out of that cartoon near the end, i heard a couple of grunts, thats about it :P

That carbon dioxide jet propulsion was mildly interesting, the stand fell and nearly knocked out a student :D 
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acrimony on February 27, 2012, 07:46:07 pm
I am not looking forward to physics fundamentals, the lecturer is boring and tasteless
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 08:43:35 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!

Nah, I knew they relocated. Was the 18th girl who signed up. :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on February 27, 2012, 08:56:17 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!

Nah, I knew they relocated. Was the 18th girl who signed up. :)

HEY I SIGNED UP TOO AND I'M THE 18TH GUY LOOOOL
man i swear i know who you are in real life...WHO ARE YOU???
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 08:59:16 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!

Nah, I knew they relocated. Was the 18th girl who signed up. :)

HEY I SIGNED UP TOO AND I'M THE 18TH GUY LOOOOL
man i swear i know who you are in real life...WHO ARE YOU???

I was wearing the black and white bird dress. Probably the tallest AA girl haha.
I SWEAR I KNOW YOU TOO. You went to the AN meeting?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on February 27, 2012, 09:04:16 pm

^oooh, i was about the 20 somethingth girl! :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on February 27, 2012, 09:04:56 pm
@xdecay..did you have glasses? haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 09:07:26 pm
@xdecay..did you have glasses? haha

Nah I don't wear glasses. I look exactly like my avatar, except I don't always have a DSLR in front of my face.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 09:07:49 pm
Chillax guys, next Tuesday. :) Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 09:13:16 pm
HOLD UP. How did we go from 'should I go to my maths session tomorrow' to 'were you at the AA lineup'. HOW DID YOU KNOW?!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 27, 2012, 09:16:52 pm
HOLD UP. How did we go from 'should I go to my maths session tomorrow' to 'were you at the AA lineup'. HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

What about the Chinese seminar? How'd that go?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on February 27, 2012, 09:22:24 pm
@xdecay..did you have glasses? haha

This is why we need an AN-Melbourne meetup!

Usually happens at the end of the year
Midyear one could work or something
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 27, 2012, 09:23:43 pm
@xdecay..did you have glasses? haha

This is why we need an AN-Melbourne meetup!

Usually happens at the end of the year
Midyear one could work or something

Do you go to UoM? I thought you went Monash for some reason ???
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on February 27, 2012, 09:39:32 pm
Do you go to UoM? I thought you went Monash for some reason ???

I do, but hopefully, I'll transfer midyear to UoM, Monash to too far. 80mins compared to 30mins
But you were talking about a general AN meetup
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on February 27, 2012, 09:49:53 pm
I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!

Nah, I knew they relocated. Was the 18th girl who signed up. :)

HEY I SIGNED UP TOO AND I'M THE 18TH GUY LOOOOL
man i swear i know who you are in real life...WHO ARE YOU???

I was wearing the black and white bird dress. Probably the tallest AA girl haha.
I SWEAR I KNOW YOU TOO. You went to the AN meeting?

LOOOOOL
ok next time i see you i'm just gonna go up and HOPE ITS YOU OTHERWISE AWKS
:)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 27, 2012, 10:19:00 pm
HOLD UP. How did we go from 'should I go to my maths session tomorrow' to 'were you at the AA lineup'. HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

What about the Chinese seminar? How'd that go?

Looks like I'm going to have to transfer to the Dookie campus of UOM. *backs away slowly*

HOLD UP. How did we go from 'should I go to my maths session tomorrow' to 'were you at the AA lineup'. HOW DID YOU KNOW?!

What about the Chinese seminar? How'd that go?

I waited outside the room of my maths session for half an hour today and the tutor didn't show up. So apparently it's not on. But would it not be running for the entire week? It doesn't say on the LMS/anywhere and I really don't want to wait 2 hours for it tomorrow.

Were you in the line for AA camp today? It got relocated to the Redmond Barry, which was where my lectures happened to be.

All in all, it was an atrocious first day. Hot, wet, and 83% humidity!

Nah, I knew they relocated. Was the 18th girl who signed up. :)

HEY I SIGNED UP TOO AND I'M THE 18TH GUY LOOOOL
man i swear i know who you are in real life...WHO ARE YOU???

I was wearing the black and white bird dress. Probably the tallest AA girl haha.
I SWEAR I KNOW YOU TOO. You went to the AN meeting?

LOOOOOL
ok next time i see you i'm just gonna go up and HOPE ITS YOU OTHERWISE AWKS
:)

Do it! :)

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on February 27, 2012, 11:08:56 pm
almost fell asleep in my physics lecture -.- guy spent about 30 minutes endorsing his own software (it has 4 million users apparently) and listing all these great things he is researching and is a part of -.-
Martin Sevior? I had my first lecture with him today for 2nd year Thermal and Classical Physics, luckily he only endorsed his software for a couple of minutes. I actually didn't mind him, although he was far from the most exciting lecturer ever...

The highlight was a glaring grammatical error on his lecture slides: "more likely to give up heat to it's surroundings". He's clearly a physicist, not a linguist.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on February 28, 2012, 04:41:20 pm
"This has come about because of the unprecedented demand for ANAT30007 this year (up from 287 in 2011 to 547 in 2012)."

That's a pretty large jump. Say a fair number of those would apply for MD, will be interesting to see whether a higher percentage of people from science get into MD. Was ~5% or so last year I think.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 28, 2012, 05:07:12 pm
Why do people wear suits to uni ? :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on February 28, 2012, 05:12:00 pm
Maybe they've got work or need to go out afterwards
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 28, 2012, 05:56:35 pm
Why do people wear suits to uni ? :S

Not as surprising as when people don't wear anything.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tazza on February 28, 2012, 06:00:14 pm
Is it possible to swap subjects still? Principles of Business Law was so so boring!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 28, 2012, 06:08:50 pm
Is it possible to swap subjects still? Principles of Business Law was so so boring!

Yes.

Quote
Census Date

The census date for a subject is the last date that a person can withdraw from that subject without incurring fee liabilities. For Australian students in fee places who are eligible for FEE-HELP, the census date for the subject is the closing date for the requesting FEE-HELP assistance. For Australian students in Commonwealth Supported Places (CSP) who are eligible for HECS-HELP, the census date for the subject is the closing date for requesting HECS-HELP.

Source: http://fee.acs.unimelb.edu.au/explanation.aspx#censusdate

http://studentadmin-unimelb.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/studentadmin_unimelb.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5046&p_created=1288070374
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on February 29, 2012, 05:29:23 pm
Am I allowed to go to a different tute to what is on my timetable? I tried making it official by changing the tute time, but I can't select it. Is there any way I can arrange with both tutors a way to get into the other tute?

Thanks!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peanuts11 on February 29, 2012, 05:36:19 pm
If your changing to a tute with the same tutor, then yes according to my professor if the tutor allows it. If not, nah man.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on February 29, 2012, 05:50:54 pm
Alright awesome. I think it's the same tutor, the session I want to get into is straight after the timetabled one and it's in the same room so hopefully it's the same tutor. Thanks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on February 29, 2012, 06:04:25 pm
Wow, third day of uni and the biomed library is packed with first years studying? :o
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on February 29, 2012, 06:15:27 pm
Wow, third day of uni and the biomed library is packed with first years studying? :o

Need to be a doctor.  Or else no rice for me.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peanuts11 on February 29, 2012, 06:17:52 pm
Wow, third day of uni and the biomed library is packed with first years studying? :o

Dafuq? What is there to study so far? We haven't really done anything yet?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on February 29, 2012, 06:26:12 pm
Wow, third day of uni and the biomed library is packed with first years studying? :o

Dafuq? What is there to study so far? We haven't really done anything yet?
Yup, silent study area on top floor was 80% full at around 3pm hahaha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peanuts11 on February 29, 2012, 06:32:26 pm
Be honest, don't lie. Should I be studying to that extent already?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 29, 2012, 07:04:46 pm
Yes.

(the answer to the question "do I have to" is different)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on February 29, 2012, 07:35:36 pm
Seriously? I'm not studying to that extent, but I am doing the prereading and so forth. Adequate?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on February 29, 2012, 07:53:35 pm
Depends slightly on what they're actually doing and what their goals are and how they relate to yours.

But if you've had a lecture then yes, you should be sitting down and revising it before the next lecture.

Like I said though, you don't have to do this, you just have to live with the guilt of not doing it (don't worry, it's really easy to!)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Plan-B on February 29, 2012, 07:54:49 pm
Hey guys, question for physics.. from lms assessment.

'Homework exercies
There will be some online homework each week. These exercises will contribute 15% to your final mark for physics and provide feedback on your progress.'

Is htis the problem solving sheets that can be found on the lms? Or is it something else.. I can't seem to find it.
-_- If it is, how do we go about submitting it and stuff?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on February 29, 2012, 07:57:56 pm
Like seriously i wanted to kill myself in the physics fundamentals lecture today!

we learnt how to subtract the distance between two points...

like 5-3=2m
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on February 29, 2012, 08:12:10 pm
Like seriously i wanted to kill myself in the physics fundamentals lecture today!

we learnt how to subtract the distance between two points...

like 5-3=2m

That's my kind of class!!!

God i'm feeling the workload of my subjects already...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on February 29, 2012, 10:27:13 pm
Like seriously i wanted to kill myself in the physics fundamentals lecture today!

we learnt how to subtract the distance between two points...

like 5-3=2m

We're doing Venn Diagrams in maths. Yes, including shading different circles and everything.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 01, 2012, 09:30:46 pm
Does anyone feel disoriented as hell when at the Basement Theatre of The Spot for a lecture. Sure, it looks impressive, but I think it was a pretty thoughtless effort from whoever designed it. Agree?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on March 01, 2012, 09:41:08 pm
I like it when they put the anatomy lecture in the Spot lecture theatre and I had to sit on the fucking floor on Wednesday.  I mean really, it's a quota subject...you can do better.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 01, 2012, 09:44:05 pm
Yeah I know, complete crap.

Also, today I had to listen to a lecturer give the old "you must come to lectures, I don't care if you have work, it's a full time on campus course" as an excuse for the echo recording system not working. PEOPLE HAVE CLASHES.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on March 01, 2012, 09:45:14 pm
Also, today I had to listen to a lecturer give the old "you must come to lectures, I don't care if you have work, it's a full time on campus course" as an excuse for the echo recording system not working. PEOPLE HAVE CLASHES.

WHAT SUBJECT BECAUSE MY ECHO RECORDING DID NOT WORK AND HERE I AM AT HOME BEING LIKE 'MY DAY OFF IS RUINED UNIMELB'.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 01, 2012, 09:47:33 pm
Biological Psychology.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on March 01, 2012, 09:50:10 pm
Oh okay this was for Principles of Micro/Immuno OMG.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 01, 2012, 09:53:40 pm
Hmm okay, happy scrambling to cover the lecture. So annoying.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on March 01, 2012, 10:03:42 pm
Hey guys is the textbook for biology that important??????????????
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on March 01, 2012, 10:04:30 pm
To buy that is
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 01, 2012, 10:06:57 pm
Not to buy. Definitely worth borrowing though, you will have to use it a bit.

It's also the second semester textbook so if that makes your decision any easier to buy it...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hehetymen on March 01, 2012, 10:08:02 pm
Try torrenting.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on March 01, 2012, 10:29:36 pm
Not to buy. Definitely worth borrowing though, you will have to use it a bit.

It's also the second semester textbook so if that makes your decision any easier to buy it...

Might wait around to see if more library copies are available if others start buying, best i save!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on March 01, 2012, 10:45:58 pm
Does anyone feel disoriented as hell when at the Basement Theatre of The Spot for a lecture. Sure, it looks impressive, but I think it was a pretty thoughtless effort from whoever designed it. Agree?

Is it only me or is there no signal/limited network down there?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Slumdawg on March 01, 2012, 11:01:50 pm
Yeah I know, complete crap.

Also, today I had to listen to a lecturer give the old "you must come to lectures, I don't care if you have work, it's a full time on campus course" as an excuse for the echo recording system not working. PEOPLE HAVE CLASHES.
haha I heard that! What a load of crap. The biopsych lecturer is so... underwhelming :( Shame we have her for another 3 weeks too! :|
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on March 02, 2012, 07:53:46 am
Cmon, lectopia isn't a guaranteed service, it's a perk. I missed two lectures on it, I just accepted it (and cried inside :'( )
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peanuts11 on March 02, 2012, 01:20:45 pm
Are you guys aware of Frank Tate Learning Centre?

Went there for a good 2 hours today and just slept so peacefully. Was beautiful (Y)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 02, 2012, 05:27:04 pm
Are you guys aware of Frank Tate Learning Centre?

Went there for a good 2 hours today and just slept so peacefully. Was beautiful (Y)

Are you guys aware of the Rowden White Library?

Been there a good 3 years and just slept so peacefully on the bean bags.  Was Awesome.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on March 03, 2012, 02:08:38 pm
Idgi, is members lounge etc. just open to everyone now?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 03, 2012, 02:41:02 pm
Idgi, is members lounge etc. just open to everyone now?

Yes.  Literally everyone.

Heck, you could be from Monash visiting UoM and still get in there and use the facilities.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on March 03, 2012, 10:30:11 pm
When I was enrolling overseas last month, I checked Full Fee because I couldn't select the option of HECS since I didn't have my TFN with me.

Now I'm back and I want to change it to the HECS option since I have my TFN now but how do I do that?

Melbourne Uni sent me a letter telling me to pay $7,000. What do I do?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on March 03, 2012, 11:21:40 pm
When I was enrolling overseas last month, I checked Full Fee because I couldn't select the option of HECS since I didn't have my TFN with me.

Now I'm back and I want to change it to the HECS option since I have my TFN now but how do I do that?

Melbourne Uni sent me a letter telling me to pay $7,000. What do I do?

Call them and explain yourself
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jeppikah on March 04, 2012, 12:12:59 pm
Gonna find out how long it takes to walk from Redmond Barry to the Spot tomorrow :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on March 04, 2012, 12:14:22 pm
Extremely pleased with myself for choosing a Microeco tute that is in David Caro and not the Spot like 90% of the other ones.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on March 06, 2012, 08:30:01 pm
Skipped a lecture today and found out from a friend that the lecturer didn't even come !
YAY! No need to listen to those audio recordings today :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on March 13, 2012, 06:44:23 pm
Feet so tired after Human locomotor systems prac! Too much standing up... and I don't pay enough attention which is bad
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Edmund on March 13, 2012, 07:46:32 pm
Feet so tired after Human locomotor systems prac! Too much standing up... and I don't pay enough attention which is bad

Got to meet your cadaver yet? :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on March 15, 2012, 05:46:05 pm
Feet so tired after Human locomotor systems prac! Too much standing up... and I don't pay enough attention which is bad

Got to meet your cadaver yet? :P

Not yet... I think that's next week... Not sure what to expect of the dissections, might be a bit confronting
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on March 15, 2012, 07:56:37 pm
Extremely pleased with myself for choosing a Microeco tute that is in David Caro and not the Spot like 90% of the other ones.

or the engineering workshop: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150566649922504&set=o.175757212527633&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=like&theater
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on March 15, 2012, 08:15:39 pm
Extremely pleased with myself for choosing a Microeco tute that is in David Caro and not the Spot like 90% of the other ones.

or the engineering workshop: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150566649922504&set=o.175757212527633&type=1&ref=notif&notif_t=like&theater
I'm guessing that's you who posted that meme? I guess it could be someone else in your tute...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on March 16, 2012, 07:39:22 pm
Is it just today or is uni always empty on fridays :s
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on March 16, 2012, 07:44:56 pm
Is it just today or is uni always empty on fridays :s

A lot of Arts students don't have uni on Fridays so that can have something to do with it...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: aes_999 on March 16, 2012, 07:47:44 pm
Everyone likes to have a long weekend.  :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on March 16, 2012, 08:26:03 pm
I noticed that a handful of students didnt turn up to calculus today! There were a fair amount of seats free :P Hopefully this trend continues XD
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on March 16, 2012, 10:53:20 pm
I noticed that a handful of students didnt turn up to calculus today! There were a fair amount of seats free :P Hopefully this trend continues XD

Aren't they missing out on heaps if the lectures aren't recorded? (they wouldnt be much use recorded anyway i guess)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on March 17, 2012, 10:50:08 am
I noticed that a handful of students didnt turn up to calculus today! There were a fair amount of seats free :P Hopefully this trend continues XD

Aren't they missing out on heaps if the lectures aren't recorded? (they wouldnt be much use recorded anyway i guess)
Yeah they would be, but i guess they figured they could probably learn it themselves or just dont give a stuff anymore or maybe even changed streams.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on March 17, 2012, 12:50:39 pm
I noticed that a handful of students didnt turn up to calculus today! There were a fair amount of seats free :P Hopefully this trend continues XD

Aren't they missing out on heaps if the lectures aren't recorded? (they wouldnt be much use recorded anyway i guess)

I do accelerated maths and the lectures are recorded, and it's much better to watch them online at home instead of actually being there in the theatre. I see/hear everything that I would have needed to see and hear, and I also have the luxury of pausing and rewinding if I lose concentration or don't quite get something that was said.

edit:
and I also don't have to wake up at 7 four days a week to attend all those 9am lectures
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jeppikah on March 18, 2012, 07:45:42 pm

I do accelerated maths and the lectures are recorded, and it's much better to watch them online at home instead of actually being there in the theatre. I see/hear everything that I would have needed to see and hear, and I also have the luxury of pausing and rewinding if I lose concentration or don't quite get something that was said.


omg i agree. he goes so fast that i find myself just copying his calculations rather than understanding what he's doing.

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on March 18, 2012, 08:48:07 pm
Uh OH. Just a question..if i miss out on doing an ILT...just one...will it affect my 5% drastically for that subject? i was kind of an idiot and didn't check up on that for a long time..only to realise i'd just missed the closing date...I know that in order to get the 5% you need 50% + and to have attempted all of them...but what if you have completely missed out on one? :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on March 18, 2012, 08:52:49 pm
Uh OH. Just a question..if i miss out on doing an ILT...just one...will it affect my 5% drastically for that subject? i was kind of an idiot and didn't check up on that for a long time..only to realise i'd just missed the closing date...I know that in order to get the 5% you need 50% + and to have attempted all of them...but what if you have completely missed out on one? :S

You can relax :) Fortunately you don't lose the 5%, you lose the proportion of the 5% for missing that ILT (unless things have changed). So if you have 6 ILTs (?) then you've lost less than 1%.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on March 18, 2012, 09:31:55 pm
ahh..... thank you..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: SDPHD on March 19, 2012, 05:43:33 pm
Does anybody know how Charles Pearson managed to get 'flood damage'?

It didn't even rain...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 19, 2012, 06:39:02 pm
Does anybody know how Charles Pearson managed to get 'flood damage'?

It didn't even rain...

The Melbourne Model.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on March 19, 2012, 07:22:51 pm
Does anybody know how Charles Pearson managed to get 'flood damage'?

It didn't even rain...
I was having a lecture in Charles Pearson 2nd semester last year, when suddenly the fire hose cupboard burst open and the fire extinguisher started spraying all over the floor...the lecturer dealt with the situation by delivering the lecture whilst standing on the desk!

That was like 6 months ago though :|
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on March 19, 2012, 08:58:10 pm
Does anybody know how Charles Pearson managed to get 'flood damage'?

It didn't even rain...
Im not complaining! Got out of a calc lecture. WINNING!!!! ;D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on March 20, 2012, 07:57:59 pm
Does anybody know how Charles Pearson managed to get 'flood damage'?

It didn't even rain...
Im not complaining! Got out of a calc lecture. WINNING!!!! ;D

Didn't they relocate it to Sidney Myer??
I know there was a Calc 1 lecture there at 10am
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on March 20, 2012, 08:59:33 pm
Charles Pearson was flooding back in summer semester of 2011 aswell. Sounds like it needs some renovating. Suprising that the uni hasn't already fixed the problem, given the amount of construction that goes on at UoM
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on March 20, 2012, 09:24:45 pm
Does anyone know if I can cancel enrolment in a subject now? I'm pretty sure it's past the date however I think I can still change if I pay extra? Thanks!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on March 20, 2012, 09:42:36 pm
Does anyone know if I can cancel enrolment in a subject now? I'm pretty sure it's past the date however I think I can still change if I pay extra? Thanks!

I'm fairly sure you can, census date is the 31st of March. You can't pick up another subject though without permission of subject coordinator
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 20, 2012, 10:36:58 pm
Does anyone know if I can cancel enrolment in a subject now? I'm pretty sure it's past the date however I think I can still change if I pay extra? Thanks!

I'm fairly sure you can, census date is the 31st of March. You can't pick up another subject though without permission of subject coordinator

Yes that's correct.  You can still drop a subject but picking up a new subject on the otherhand, will be extremely difficult.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: liuetenant on March 22, 2012, 09:02:47 pm
You can pick it upp. but then there's the problem of whether or not the subject still has class registrations avaliable...might need to talk to the student centres about that :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: bridger on March 23, 2012, 02:25:46 pm
Good luck to everyone sitting the GAMSAT tomorrow!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on March 23, 2012, 03:49:46 pm
I just withdrew from ARA but on the portal, next to the microeconomics it's saying this: '(P) Partially-satisfied requisites exist.'

Anyone know what this means?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on March 26, 2012, 08:49:06 pm
Its week five already of uni and SIGH. Im so not motivated :( :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on April 03, 2012, 09:22:16 pm
our first year biology lecturer grows grade A 100% pure hydroponic marijuana in his backyard shed...

disco shit
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on April 03, 2012, 09:38:26 pm
our first year biology lecturer grows grade A 100% pure hydroponic marijuana in his backyard shed...

Well it *is* "the most commonly grown hydroponic plant in the Melbourne region"...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on April 04, 2012, 05:12:25 pm
our first year biology lecturer grows grade A 100% pure hydroponic marijuana in his backyard shed...

disco shit

Rick?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on April 04, 2012, 08:29:32 pm
Lmfao no, it's Andrew right?  BUT I LIKE HIM HE'S SO NICE.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on April 04, 2012, 08:40:20 pm
Haha I remember him!! Convinced my group of friends that the biology lecturers spent their Friday afternoons smoking weed in the greenhouses :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on April 26, 2012, 08:20:33 am
100 lectures, 60 questions, 60 minutes, kill me now
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on April 27, 2012, 07:50:49 pm
Aw, cute that you revive the thread but nobody has sympathy <3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on April 28, 2012, 03:46:30 pm
I hate assignments. :@ WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU ONE FOR EVERY SUBJECT AT THE SAME TIME?!?!???
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I thought the good old days of writing essays was over! I am wrong yet again :'(

/end rant
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on April 28, 2012, 04:50:54 pm
I hate assignments. :@ WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU ONE FOR EVERY SUBJECT AT THE SAME TIME?!?!???
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I thought the good old days of writing essays was over! I am wrong yet again :'(

/end rant

Cos it's uni and it's Week 8. 

And essays?  Even mathematicians can't escape from them.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on April 28, 2012, 05:23:21 pm
xD i've realised that now... lol
Doing nothing during semester really has screwed me up lol

how do you guys do it? o.0
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: HarveyD on April 28, 2012, 05:25:00 pm
is it always this busy at uni around this time? lol
so stressed
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on April 28, 2012, 09:57:03 pm
Such is life.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on April 29, 2012, 01:50:59 pm
This week is torture. Group assignment, late chem MST, Stats project.
And the flu to top it all off.
Going to drop dead soon.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on April 29, 2012, 07:20:23 pm
100 lectures, 60 questions, 60 minutes, kill me now

This week is torture. Group assignment, late chem MST, Stats project.
And the flu to top it all off.
Going to drop dead soon.

Please don't die.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on April 29, 2012, 09:08:26 pm
100 lectures, 60 questions, 60 minutes, kill me now

This week is torture. Group assignment, late chem MST, Stats project.
And the flu to top it all off.
Going to drop dead soon.

Please don't die.

Melbourne Uni- killing students since forever.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on April 29, 2012, 09:10:08 pm
I am still alive. Recuperated by not working this weekend at all. Life is amazing again :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on April 29, 2012, 09:28:36 pm
100 lectures, 60 questions, 60 minutes, kill me now

This week is torture. Group assignment, late chem MST, Stats project.
And the flu to top it all off.
Going to drop dead soon.

Please don't die.

Melbourne Uni- killing students since forever.

Studying = Students + Dying
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on April 30, 2012, 10:55:59 am
100 lectures, 60 questions, 60 minutes, kill me now



This week is torture. Group assignment, late chem MST, Stats project.
And the flu to top it all off.
Going to drop dead soon.

Please don't die.

Melbourne Uni- killing students since forever.

Studying = Students + Dying

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: eleking on May 08, 2012, 12:29:16 am
Hi guys.
Have you ever received comments like "a solid essay, well done" etc. ?
I wonder what does that mean. I was told my essays were solid but finally I just got a H2B.
I really wanna get some H1s throughout my BA degree, what should I do further?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on May 08, 2012, 08:45:16 am
I hate assignments. :@ WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU ONE FOR EVERY SUBJECT AT THE SAME TIME?!?!???
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I thought the good old days of writing essays was over! I am wrong yet again :'(

/end rant

Cos it's uni and it's Week 8. 

And essays?  Even mathematicians can't escape from them.

When do they kick in? I would actually love this! The amount of verbal/written reasoning that I have to do to get through my Calc is retarded. My assignments are pretty much 50/50 text-to-maths.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on May 08, 2012, 12:12:25 pm
What math unit are you doing atm?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 10, 2012, 05:34:23 pm
I hate assignments. :@ WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GIVE YOU ONE FOR EVERY SUBJECT AT THE SAME TIME?!?!???
FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I thought the good old days of writing essays was over! I am wrong yet again :'(

/end rant

Cos it's uni and it's Week 8. 

And essays?  Even mathematicians can't escape from them.

When do they kick in? I would actually love this! The amount of verbal/written reasoning that I have to do to get through my Calc is retarded. My assignments are pretty much 50/50 text-to-maths.

Are you sure you like proofs?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: kamil9876 on May 10, 2012, 10:04:51 pm
^C'mon enough about the complaining about proofs. They aren't that bad. Most of the undergrad ones are only at most 2 paragraphs or a bunch of disjoint sentences with a few equations/symbols/expressions in between.

I did however have to write an essay for Commutative and Multilinear Algebra on "The best practices in teaching mathematics". A 9-page essay that has nothing to do with Commutative and Multlinear Algebra. So just be happy, it could be a lot worse...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: rife168 on May 16, 2012, 10:16:40 pm
Hey guys just wondering if anyone knows if there is an after-hours return chute at the ERC library. I will be going past the uni at like 5:00 tomorrow morning and I have some books to return.

edit: If so, where is it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on May 16, 2012, 11:13:02 pm
5am geez. :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on May 21, 2012, 07:24:43 pm
For the best university in the country, the IT department at UoM could be better run by a monkey
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on May 21, 2012, 08:23:42 pm
HAHAHA. Really nice ASU stuff-up. Anyone for a class action suit re the unsolicited emails?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 21, 2012, 08:31:02 pm
HAHAHA. Really nice ASU stuff-up. Anyone for a class action suit re the unsolicited emails?

Here's our chance!  Mutiny!!!   CHARGE!!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 21, 2012, 08:52:11 pm
Thought I might need to add...  A meme has already been made:

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/535745_3696519007119_1099668832_33339275_445260377_n.jpg)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on May 21, 2012, 09:59:13 pm
why am i getting some random emails from random people?

some guy named chris emailed me saying

"Hi I've been stressing out and not dealing with things very well. I need help on how to deal with everything and eliminate the stresses of life."

wtf
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on May 21, 2012, 10:17:17 pm
dammit they seemed to have fixed it now... i sent them some random questions off yahoo answers and it gave me an error.

 "I wanted to see if my computer would read my student card so i put it in the CD drive and it got stuck, how do i get it out?? I tried toothpics but they got stuck as well.... also the drive is making noises :(

Thanks"

darn
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on May 21, 2012, 10:25:19 pm
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20721665.jpg)

I do pity them for sending it out to everyone though...

EDIT: This is  my 69th post.. Oh the irony...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on May 22, 2012, 04:06:20 am
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20721665.jpg)

I do pity them for sending it out to everyone though...

EDIT: This is  my 69th post.. Oh the irony...

LOL.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on May 22, 2012, 12:48:50 pm
OMG, it's a virus, can you believe it! I think I'm infected. OMG.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hehetymen on May 22, 2012, 01:31:52 pm
Someone wanna aware me on what happened?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on May 22, 2012, 05:36:35 pm
OMG, it's a virus, can you believe it! I think I'm infected. OMG.
It's not a virus you twat

I won't waste my time explaining what happened, but it's very briefly explained in one of the memes posted in the previous page.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on May 22, 2012, 05:58:27 pm
You do know lexitu was making fun of the person who replied from their iPad saying they thought it was a virus right? I mean to the mailing list.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on May 22, 2012, 06:08:32 pm
You do know lexitu was making fun of the person who replied from their iPad saying they thought it was a virus right? I mean to the mailing list.
You can read minds? That's a nice trick. How do you do that?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on May 22, 2012, 06:11:14 pm
Cute <3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mankay on May 22, 2012, 06:20:11 pm
Cute <3

Very <3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on May 22, 2012, 09:01:28 pm
You do know lexitu was making fun of the person who replied from their iPad saying they thought it was a virus right? I mean to the mailing list.
You can read minds? That's a nice trick. How do you do that?

To be fair, it was a pretty obvious reference...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ulbasour on May 22, 2012, 11:47:24 pm
How did people go with ARA QB assignments?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: acinod on May 23, 2012, 12:38:32 am
How did people go with ARA QB assignments?


I don't understand the mark I got on FB. There's like almost 100 rows...
I think the significant rows are 'Quickbooks raw' and 'qb out of 10'? And for some questions I got 'Process Mark', is that a mark, half mark, or no mark?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: cranberry on May 29, 2012, 01:17:42 pm
off-topic - ESD 1 is the worst subject..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 29, 2012, 01:24:33 pm
off-topic - ESD 1 is the worst subject..

Heard some horror stories from there.  Also Organisational Behaviour.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on May 29, 2012, 08:11:37 pm
what do you do in esd?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: werdna on May 29, 2012, 08:59:45 pm
Is the uni portal down at the moment for everyone? I'm trying to apply for the SSAF help but it's not working.. not sure if it's just mine :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 29, 2012, 09:11:24 pm
Is the uni portal down at the moment for everyone? I'm trying to apply for the SSAF help but it's not working.. not sure if it's just mine :/

Working fine for me right now.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anonymous1 on May 29, 2012, 09:13:07 pm
i think it might be just yours, mine is working fine too ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on May 29, 2012, 10:17:14 pm
off-topic - ESD 1 is the worst subject..

Heard some horror stories from there.  Also Organisational Behaviour.
I'm thinking of doing organisational behaviour during the summer semester. What's wrong with it? lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Kingofrok33 on May 29, 2012, 10:26:28 pm
When do we start picking our semester two subjects? On the student portal it has me enrolled into subjects already for some reason, yet I don't even want to do them. Surely there is a way of swapping out of them?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 29, 2012, 10:28:14 pm
off-topic - ESD 1 is the worst subject..

Heard some horror stories from there.  Also Organisational Behaviour.
I'm thinking of doing organisational behaviour during the summer semester. What's wrong with it? lol

Don't think it's offered over summer.  You'll quickly find out how shit group projects are every soon then.

Unless of course everyone in your group is someone you know well but you'll have to time it so that everyone you want in your group is in the same tutorial.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on May 29, 2012, 11:03:16 pm
off-topic - ESD 1 is the worst subject..

Heard some horror stories from there.  Also Organisational Behaviour.
I'm thinking of doing organisational behaviour during the summer semester. What's wrong with it? lol

Don't think it's offered over summer.  You'll quickly find out how shit group projects are every soon then.

Unless of course everyone in your group is someone you know well but you'll have to time it so that everyone you want in your group is in the same tutorial.
Oh really... Shattered lol i really wanted to get it out of the way hahah
But yeah i'm yet to experience a group assignment! From what i've seen my friends having to put up with i can tell that it wont be good :(



LOLOLOL Does anyone else find it funny, how tutorial's are always divided into 2 groups. The international students - predominantly Chinese, and the local students. I found it rather amusing, cos as soon as people walked into the room during first 2 weeks it just naturally happened. This is probably more so the case for commerce subjects i'd say.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 29, 2012, 11:06:04 pm
LOLOLOL Does anyone else find it funny, how tutorial's are always divided into 2 groups. The international students - predominantly Chinese, and the local students. I found it rather amusing, cos as soon as people walked into the room during first 2 weeks it just naturally happened. This is probably more so the case for commerce subjects i'd say.

Happens to all subjects, even up to final year.  The only time it doesn't happen as much is probably when there is a small class (such as third maths) where you tend to know everyone including the international students and get along with them since we collaborate.

Or it doesn't happen to the brave international students who are willing to talk to local students and willing to get along with them.  They are, unfortunately, rare in my experience.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on May 29, 2012, 11:11:58 pm
Ahh ok, i've only got 1 unit outside of commerce and that was science. The prac had mainly local students so i was assuming that maybe there is a higher percentage of local students compared to commerce. It seems that more than half of the students in commerce are international.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on May 30, 2012, 11:35:36 am
LOLOLOL Does anyone else find it funny, how tutorial's are always divided into 2 groups. The international students - predominantly Chinese, and the local students. I found it rather amusing, cos as soon as people walked into the room during first 2 weeks it just naturally happened. This is probably more so the case for commerce subjects i'd say.

Happens to all subjects, even up to final year.  The only time it doesn't happen as much is probably when there is a small class (such as third maths) where you tend to know everyone including the international students and get along with them since we collaborate.

Or it doesn't happen to the brave international students who are willing to talk to local students and willing to get along with them.  They are, unfortunately, rare in my experience.

Lol.. In bio tute, you see the rest of the room being international students and all the local students bunched up in one table only.
It's actually hilarious being the only international student on that table. So yes.. we brave ones do exist :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on May 30, 2012, 06:38:33 pm
LOLOLOL Does anyone else find it funny, how tutorial's are always divided into 2 groups. The international students - predominantly Chinese, and the local students. I found it rather amusing, cos as soon as people walked into the room during first 2 weeks it just naturally happened. This is probably more so the case for commerce subjects i'd say.

Happens to all subjects, even up to final year.  The only time it doesn't happen as much is probably when there is a small class (such as third maths) where you tend to know everyone including the international students and get along with them since we collaborate.

Or it doesn't happen to the brave international students who are willing to talk to local students and willing to get along with them.  They are, unfortunately, rare in my experience.

Lol.. In bio tute, you see the rest of the room being international students and all the local students bunched up in one table only.
It's actually hilarious being the only international student on that table. So yes.. we brave ones do exist :P

I've always had an unconfirmed theory that the brave ones are mainly science students since most science students are forced to work together in pracs or tutes.  But I can't prove it.

And it's real shame that there's so few of them around.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on May 30, 2012, 06:52:51 pm
LOLOLOL Does anyone else find it funny, how tutorial's are always divided into 2 groups. The international students - predominantly Chinese, and the local students. I found it rather amusing, cos as soon as people walked into the room during first 2 weeks it just naturally happened. This is probably more so the case for commerce subjects i'd say.

Happens to all subjects, even up to final year.  The only time it doesn't happen as much is probably when there is a small class (such as third maths) where you tend to know everyone including the international students and get along with them since we collaborate.

Or it doesn't happen to the brave international students who are willing to talk to local students and willing to get along with them.  They are, unfortunately, rare in my experience.

Lol.. In bio tute, you see the rest of the room being international students and all the local students bunched up in one table only.
It's actually hilarious being the only international student on that table. So yes.. we brave ones do exist :P

I've always had an unconfirmed theory that the brave ones are mainly science students since most science students are forced to work together in pracs or tutes.  But I can't prove it.

And it's real shame that there's so few of them around.

I'm in Biomed actually but close enough. ahahah
The only time you do get forced to work together are in Pracs then after that you could just ignore the other person for the rest of eternity.
What you say is true though. I actually haven't met many International students who just get in there and mix.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anonymous1 on May 30, 2012, 07:10:28 pm
well i'm a science student and have met a lot of international students, and i'm good friends with most of them too :)
i guess it depends on experience
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on May 30, 2012, 07:39:15 pm
I'll expand on the separation topic - the college kids usually form their own group in tutes too. Even if they aren't all from the same college, they still have common things to talk about
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on May 30, 2012, 08:11:40 pm
To anyone who has thought of going to the 1st year 1st semester chemistry tutorials that they're hosting daily for this week, they're THOROUGHLY worthwhile. That goes for Fundamentals, Chem1, and the Biomedicine equivalent.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on May 30, 2012, 08:21:06 pm
What did you do in the chem 1 tutorial? Are we required to bring things we need help with or are they just teaching/going over things? What times are they on?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on May 30, 2012, 09:16:25 pm
To anyone who has thought of going to the 1st year 1st semester chemistry tutorials that they're hosting daily for this week, they're THOROUGHLY worthwhile. That goes for Fundamentals, Chem1, and the Biomedicine equivalent.

Is this the learning centre? I'm practically there every week
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on May 30, 2012, 09:18:55 pm
They're running daily tutes? That's way better than when I did chem :(
I'd also recommend you go, they did a single tute back in 1st year for me and it was really helpful
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on June 29, 2012, 01:28:57 pm
Just wanting to clarify something: we don't have to do 2 breadth subjects each year, right? Could we do one in one year and then three in another as along as we complete the course requirements?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anonymous1 on June 29, 2012, 01:38:50 pm
Just wanting to clarify something: we don't have to do 2 breadth subjects each year, right? Could we do one in one year and then three in another as along as we complete the course requirements?

yes that's correct, but look carefully at your study plan and make sure you've covered everything before doing it :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on June 29, 2012, 01:56:20 pm
Yes you can, just make sure at least one of the breadths is at level 2 or higher.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on June 29, 2012, 01:59:07 pm
Thanks, I am torn between micro and path for a major so I want to get in as many prerequisites as possible next year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on June 29, 2012, 02:03:55 pm
Have to wait 5 or so days for my chemistry 2 subjects to be put onto my study plan, probably going to get an even worse timetable
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on June 29, 2012, 02:15:07 pm
Have to wait 5 or so days for my chemistry 2 subjects to be put onto my study plan, probably going to get an even worse timetable
Chemistry 2 has lectures at 10,12 and 2.15 if that helps. The pracs are mon-fri 10-1 and 2-5.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on June 29, 2012, 02:47:58 pm
Have to wait 5 or so days for my chemistry 2 subjects to be put onto my study plan, probably going to get an even worse timetable
Chemistry 2 has lectures at 10,12 and 2.15 if that helps. The pracs are mon-fri 10-1 and 2-5.

Yeah i checked the university timetable before, thanks anyway :) Just hope the classes aren't full :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on June 29, 2012, 02:53:23 pm
Not going to lie, I think almst everything is full but at least there is the staggered release. There are also a few tute times on the university timetable that are missing from class registration so hopefully they will open up too.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on June 29, 2012, 02:58:20 pm
Not going to lie, I think almst everything is full but at least there is the staggered release. There are also a few tute times on the university timetable that are missing from class registration so hopefully they will open up too.

Yeah suspected that, EPSC takes too long.. So on the july date where they are more places released, do I just timetable as normal?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on June 29, 2012, 03:07:58 pm
It's even worse for those who get in by mid-semester transfers. We find out during O-week. Worst timetable spots to be had
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on June 29, 2012, 08:55:03 pm
They normally stagger a release around when those with mid-semester transfers get a shot at a decent time. That's what I was told last time.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: cibicl on June 30, 2012, 07:12:14 pm
Hey is anyone able to access their book list? I wanted to see what books I need for next semester as I am going away next week but am unable to do. Thanks guys :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on June 30, 2012, 07:29:58 pm
Hey is anyone able to access their book list? I wanted to see what books I need for next semester as I am going away next week but am unable to do. Thanks guys :)

haven't been able to get mine either. I went to the bookshop the other day and it has no subject tutebooks/ practical books or anything
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 01, 2012, 12:07:57 pm
Hey is anyone able to access their book list? I wanted to see what books I need for next semester as I am going away next week but am unable to do. Thanks guys :)

haven't been able to get mine either. I went to the bookshop the other day and it has no subject tutebooks/ practical books or anything

Well the official university bookshop has closed down and a new, independent bookshop has opened up in its place.

The only thing I'm unsure if they are still going to sell the readers, lecture notes, etc.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on July 01, 2012, 12:18:15 pm
How long until the holidays are over? What's the Academic Advice day on the 16th, and orientation from the 18th to the 20th? Is it like what we had at the beginning of the year?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on July 01, 2012, 12:28:03 pm
That is for people who start mid-year. Semester 2 starts July 23.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: El Carlos on July 02, 2012, 03:09:19 pm
Hey folks! I'm doing ESD1 in Sem 2 and I'm wondering if they record their lectures. I already have a clash, and there's only a single stream of lectures available for semester 2.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on July 02, 2012, 03:26:42 pm
They were recorded in semester 1. Audio only.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: curious111 on July 02, 2012, 06:07:43 pm
The list of subjects with recorded lectures (for Science/Engineering etc. subjects) is up on the EPSC site

http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/Timetabling/recorded_lectures

It's not quite complete yet though; I know Eng Computation is being recorded but it's not on the list (yet).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on July 05, 2012, 05:18:03 pm
Hey guys, just need confirmation before i decide to do 4 cores next sem. Next sem ill be taking biochem, techniques in molecular science, pathology and pharmacology. I will then do a breradth subject in summer, hence my breadth subject requirements will be met. The question is if i decide to do 4 cores next sem, does that mean i have to do ine subject less for third year? The subject planner i think* has limited spots for third year?  Thanks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 05, 2012, 05:53:20 pm
It's the fact that you're doing a summer subject, and not four science subjects, that means you will have one semester with only three subjects next year. This is because you're allowed 4-6 breadth subjects, so you don't necessarily have to have a breadth every semester (if you're doing one breadth a semester).

After you do your summer semester you'll have seven subjects left for third year (assuming you've done four subjects a semester thus far), and six of them have to be level 3 science subjects (provided you haven't done any already) including four core subjects for your major. The study plan has a set limit of 300 credit points.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on July 05, 2012, 06:39:28 pm
This is a bit random but are all uni subjects offered over the summer period?? I wasn't able to do a first year Linguistics subject in semester 1 ("The Secret Life of Language") - would I be able to do it in the summer period? Thanks!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on July 05, 2012, 06:43:40 pm
This is a bit random but are all uni subjects offered over the summer period?? I wasn't able to do a first year Linguistics subject in semester 1 ("The Secret Life of Language") - would I be able to do it in the summer period? Thanks!

Only some subjects are offered over summer.  Check in the handbook if it is.  It will say it will be offered in "Summer Term" or "January".

And no, LING10001 The Secret Life of Language just seems to be offered in semester 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on July 05, 2012, 07:12:21 pm
It's the fact that you're doing a summer subject, and not four science subjects, that means you will have one semester with only three subjects next year. This is because you're allowed 4-6 breadth subjects, so you don't necessarily have to have a breadth every semester (if you're doing one breadth a semester).

After you do your summer semester you'll have seven subjects left for third year (assuming you've done four subjects a semester thus far), and six of them have to be level 3 science subjects (provided you haven't done any already) including four core subjects for your major. The study plan has a set limit of 300 credit points.
Thanks so much for the clarification. So under the science major in the study plan we can add 4 subjects? Im trying to add the 4 pathology subjects but it isnt letting me- it wont even come up when i search the name and the code :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 05, 2012, 08:14:02 pm
Are those four subjects under your major, if so, have you selected your major on the study plan yet?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on July 05, 2012, 08:21:14 pm
Nope there are no subjects under my subject major. I clicked onchoose and tried putting the subject name/code but it isnt showing up when i search it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on July 05, 2012, 08:33:49 pm
Don't you have to select your major first? Next to "BS-SCIMAJOR - Science Major" there should be a "choose" where you should search for "pathology". Since there are three core subjects for the Pathology major, those three subjects should come up in your study plan automatically. I might be wrong though, been a while since I selected my major.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: donut007 on July 06, 2012, 02:55:33 am
hey guys,
I'm interested in how one goes about calcuting their GPA.

I have tried to read the online guide that people have given my links to, but it doesn't really make sense to me. I have figured there the way that you calculate it, is one of the following 2 ways:
-for example, my subject scores are 74, 86, 72, 70, and so my average is 77, does that mean my GPA is 6.5 because my average of 77 calculates to be a h2A
-or is it calculated by saying okay 74, 72 and 70 are h2bs and 86 is an h1, so my GPA would be the average of 6+6+6+7/4?

Can someone please explain if either of these ways of calculating my GPA are correct? (I'm a first yr science student if that helps in any way)

Thanks :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Panicmode on July 06, 2012, 05:44:18 am
hey guys,
I'm interested in how one goes about calcuting their GPA.

I have tried to read the online guide that people have given my links to, but it doesn't really make sense to me. I have figured there the way that you calculate it, is one of the following 2 ways:
-for example, my subject scores are 74, 86, 72, 70, and so my average is 77, does that mean my GPA is 6.5 because my average of 77 calculates to be a h2A
-or is it calculated by saying okay 74, 72 and 70 are h2bs and 86 is an h1, so my GPA would be the average of 6+6+6+7/4?

Can someone please explain if either of these ways of calculating my GPA are correct? (I'm a first yr science student if that helps in any way)

Thanks :)

The second method (with brackets).

Your GPA from those grades alone would be (6+6+6+7)/4 =25/4 = 6.25

Remember though, first year isn't weighted very heavily compared to second and third year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ellaa81 on July 06, 2012, 12:01:39 pm
Hey guys, I'm aiming to go to UoM next year and and just wondering if you could help me out with something... I keep having people ask "why would you go there when you have to do an extra year just go to monash save money blah blah". So my question is, is it true that you have to do this 'extra year'?
I know you have to do breadth subjects but I can't really get my head around where this supposed extra year is coming from.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 06, 2012, 12:16:40 pm
Hey guys, I'm aiming to go to UoM next year and and just wondering if you could help me out with something... I keep having people ask "why would you go there when you have to do an extra year just go to monash save money blah blah". So my question is, is it true that you have to do this 'extra year'?
I know you have to do breadth subjects but I can't really get my head around where this supposed extra year is coming from.
Thanks :)
You wouldn't be doing an extra year, all bachelor degrees are 3 years at melb uni and i think the general degrees at monash are 3 years too. It will depend on what course you're looking at and if you need to do any post grad studies.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 06, 2012, 12:27:50 pm
Ask your friends if they'd rather spend an extra year being a lazy uni student or an extra year working 38 hour weeks at the office :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on July 06, 2012, 12:39:13 pm
Hey guys, I'm aiming to go to UoM next year and and just wondering if you could help me out with something... I keep having people ask "why would you go there when you have to do an extra year just go to monash save money blah blah". So my question is, is it true that you have to do this 'extra year'?
I know you have to do breadth subjects but I can't really get my head around where this supposed extra year is coming from.
Thanks :)

People generally refer to an "extra year" within the context of things like Medicine, Law or Engineering, which are solely postgraduate courses under the Melbourne Model.

For example, at Melbourne a Bachelor of Science followed by the Juris Doctor (law) is 3 + 3 = 6 years.

The double degree of Science/Law at Monash though is a total of 5 years.

Personally I think it's pretty silly to let that have much of an influence on your decision... First of all, an extra year of study in the scheme of your career as a whole is pretty insignificant. Secondly, it's not as though an extra year of study is a blanket negative; I'd actually say it's a good thing, since, at the end of the day, you will have learned more than someone who did not study for that extra year...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: spectroscopy on July 06, 2012, 01:04:17 pm
if you get the chancellors scholarship at melbourne, do you actually get to meet the chancellor and talk about your pathways at the uni, or is it just a name? LMAO
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on July 06, 2012, 03:25:14 pm
if you get the chancellors scholarship at melbourne, do you actually get to meet the chancellor and talk about your pathways at the uni, or is it just a name? LMAO

Um we have met the Chancellor, yes. The Chancellor is more of a figurehead, though, from what I understand and doesn't really have anything to do with student affairs.

The specifics of what sort of attention you get in the program seems to depend on the course. For the BSc, the Chancellor's Scholars have regular meetings with the Director of the Bachelor of Science and another course advisor. We discuss a variety of matters, such as course structuring, exchange, mentoring and research opportunities etc...

For, say, Commerce, however, they appear to combine the CSP with the Copland Scholars program. They have seminars like every couple of weeks. Not really sure what they do.

Biomedicine kids have all been given two mentors, but, again, I'm not sure of the specifics of what they do. They do get a locker in the med building or somewhere though, I believe.

Dunno about Arts or Music, and there aren't any Environments Chancellor's Scholars.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 06, 2012, 04:17:41 pm
Biomedicine kids have all been given two mentors, but, again, I'm not sure of the specifics of what they do. They do get a locker in the med building or somewhere though, I believe.

Two mentors from a direction they're interested in. Most of them wanted MD mentors, some wanted honours/physio/dent etc. Meetings are for them to get a feel for what they need to do, how their future will look and that sort of thing. Personal communications are also pretty valuable. Some of them got to come by the MD student conference and have a meetup with us and chat about the MD etc.

And yeah...a locker...I've used mine once lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: paulsterio on July 06, 2012, 04:24:05 pm
Ask your friends if they'd rather spend an extra year being a lazy uni student or an extra year working 38 hour weeks at the office :D

Well another way of phrasing that is would they rather spend an extra year at uni or making money :P

Btw, for anyone who knows, is all this mentoring stuff actually helpful, or is it gimmicky and just stuff you can figure out yourself if you research/put in the time and effort crawling around on forums and the web?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on July 06, 2012, 05:04:16 pm

Well another way of phrasing that is would they rather spend an extra year at uni or making money :P


Omg uni, pick uni any day.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on July 06, 2012, 09:45:21 pm
Anyone have any idea about the possibility of doing Honours in an Arts based discipline if you did a Science degree, but had the equivalent of a major in that discipline via your breadth studies + year 12 UMEP studies? That is, the major wouldn't be "formally" recognised, but it would be identical in terms of content...

My guess is no, but I figured I'd ask if anyone knew specifically.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: tram on July 07, 2012, 02:24:22 am
Anyone have any idea about the possibility of doing Honours in an Arts based discipline if you did a Science degree, but had the equivalent of a major in that discipline via your breadth studies + year 12 UMEP studies? That is, the major wouldn't be "formally" recognised, but it would be identical in terms of content...

My guess is no, but I figured I'd ask if anyone knew specifically.

Defs not, they don't even let you do two science majors haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 07, 2012, 08:15:00 am
I think they might, Hons is based a lot on you networking and finding a supervisor willing to take you, so it could work
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on July 07, 2012, 04:20:35 pm
Hmm interesting... I guess I'll have to investigate further by asking staff. Thanks guys =)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 09, 2012, 10:32:56 pm
Hmm interesting... I guess I'll have to investigate further by asking staff. Thanks guys =)

Let me know how that goes, that's really interesting... far out.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on July 11, 2012, 12:39:59 pm
Is it tomorrow morning that the extra class spaces open up for timetabling...? 10am?

EDIT: Nevermind, just checked the portal :P 10am though?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 11, 2012, 12:57:54 pm
Is it tomorrow morning that the extra class spaces open up for timetabling...? 10am?

EDIT: Nevermind, just checked the portal :P 10am though?

I believe so
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ellaa81 on July 11, 2012, 07:24:57 pm
Yeah that's what I thought :) thanks guys!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on July 12, 2012, 06:41:25 am
The stupid portal won't let me enroll in any subjects! 

Whenever I search for a subject, it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria."

Anyone know how to fix this?...preferably without a phone call or worse visit to the student centre.

Edit:  Okay, so I figure I am screwed... It just won't let me enroll in the subject I want (GENE20002).  I'm not sure whether it is because the classes for this subject are full according to the EPSC Facebook page OR most likely because this subject used to be non-allowed in BBiomed, and this is the first year which they are allowing it but the study plan has not been updated. 

Point being, this is definitely going to require the Student Centre to fix it and what for?...so this subject can clash with two of the lectures for my core subject.  Fuck you Melbourne Uni...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Richiie on July 12, 2012, 10:01:37 am
Open for class registration now!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 12, 2012, 10:10:52 am
what the hell i register in psych classe,s then refresh the portal and it says i havent registered. bs

Edit: Ok I think it's good now
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: dilks on July 12, 2012, 10:12:19 am
The stupid portal won't let me enroll in any subjects! 

Whenever I search for a subject, it just comes up with "Sorry, but there are no matching structures for the specified criteria."

Anyone know how to fix this?...preferably without a phone call or worse visit to the student centre.

Edit:  Okay, so I figure I am screwed... It just won't let me enroll in the subject I want (GENE20002).  I'm not sure whether it is because the classes for this subject are full according to the EPSC Facebook page OR most likely because this subject used to be non-allowed in BBiomed, and this is the first year which they are allowing it but the study plan has not been updated. 

Point being, this is definitely going to require the Student Centre to fix it and what for?...so this subject can clash with two of the lectures for my core subject.  Fuck you Melbourne Uni...

Sigh. Reminds me of how last semester there was a subject in my core which also couldn't be done, because there was a subject listed as a prerequisite which was no longer on offer at the university. I could probably forgive the error (change that to a maybe), if it weren't for the fact I reported it three times, and one of the guys I reported it to was one of the faculty heads for Computing or something, who assured me in person that he would investigate it immediately, saying something along the lines of 'Don't worry this is exactly the sort of thing it is my responsibility to fix'. Unlike you, however luckily that subject wasn't required for my major, but it really is somewhat disturbing that the system is so fail.

In other words: Blame the Melbourne Model.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 12, 2012, 12:39:39 pm
So I got to register for a Physics for Biomed prac and the only one available was the 5-8pm on a Thursday (My day off and have work as well)
No biggie, will wait till the 12th (today) for the other slots to open up.
Not opening up at all and now I don't have a prac at all. All of them are full.
How is it possible that they are not opening up enough slots for students who are enrolled in it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anonymous1 on July 12, 2012, 01:31:27 pm
you should have just enrolled in the 5-8pm slot anyway until today then swapped if you got the chance :P

but anyways don't worry they'll have to fit you in somewhere, maybe go down to your student center and ask them to put you in. Also check the student portal every day, sometimes slots open up randomly. It happened with my breadth subject, there were no spots but then when i checked a few days later there were like 5 tutorials available for registration.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 12, 2012, 03:46:04 pm
you should have just enrolled in the 5-8pm slot anyway until today then swapped if you got the chance :P

but anyways don't worry they'll have to fit you in somewhere, maybe go down to your student center and ask them to put you in. Also check the student portal every day, sometimes slots open up randomly. It happened with my breadth subject, there were no spots but then when i checked a few days later there were like 5 tutorials available for registration.

Well, it wouldn't have worked anyway since there was actually NO new spots at all today for that class. Like you know how if it is unavailable, they would say how many more spots would be open today? Well, they don't even have that message so yeah.. They just don't have any more spots at all apparently...

I emailed them so hopefully I get a response tomorrow. If not I will have to go through the 1.5 hours to get to Uni to get it sorted out. Sigh...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 12, 2012, 03:50:38 pm
you should have just enrolled in the 5-8pm slot anyway until today then swapped if you got the chance :P

but anyways don't worry they'll have to fit you in somewhere, maybe go down to your student center and ask them to put you in. Also check the student portal every day, sometimes slots open up randomly. It happened with my breadth subject, there were no spots but then when i checked a few days later there were like 5 tutorials available for registration.

Well, it wouldn't have worked anyway since there was actually NO new spots at all today for that class. Like you know how if it is unavailable, they would say how many more spots would be open today? Well, they don't even have that message so yeah.. They just don't have any more spots at all apparently...

I emailed them so hopefully I get a response tomorrow. If not I will have to go through the 1.5 hours to get to Uni to get it sorted out. Sigh...

I had to wait like a week and a half for EPSC to respond to something I sent. I hope you get a response quicker.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: anonymous1 on July 12, 2012, 04:08:53 pm
Well, it wouldn't have worked anyway since there was actually NO new spots at all today for that class. Like you know how if it is unavailable, they would say how many more spots would be open today? Well, they don't even have that message so yeah.. They just don't have any more spots at all apparently...

I emailed them so hopefully I get a response tomorrow. If not I will have to go through the 1.5 hours to get to Uni to get it sorted out. Sigh...

lol i meant when it was available, but don't worry i just realized you said you have work on that day, which is why you probably didn't register for it?
So I got to register for a Physics for Biomed prac and the only one available was the 5-8pm on a Thursday (My day off and have work as well)

In terms of not telling how many spots would be available, that happened to me too but then some become available to register randomly yesterday, so don't stress  they HAVE to put all the students in a class so you'll get in.

You will most likely not get a response tomorrow, I also emailed regarding the same problem in fact, and i got an automatically generated email the next day saying I will get a response after 5-6 days and if it were urgent then I should call or visit the center. So it's probably best that you make a personal visit.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on July 13, 2012, 12:41:26 am
Sigh. Reminds me of how last semester there was a subject in my core which also couldn't be done, because there was a subject listed as a prerequisite which was no longer on offer at the university. I could probably forgive the error (change that to a maybe), if it weren't for the fact I reported it three times, and one of the guys I reported it to was one of the faculty heads for Computing or something, who assured me in person that he would investigate it immediately, saying something along the lines of 'Don't worry this is exactly the sort of thing it is my responsibility to fix'. Unlike you, however luckily that subject wasn't required for my major, but it really is somewhat disturbing that the system is so fail.

In other words: Blame the Melbourne Model.

Man I hear you loud and clear.  The people at the call centre couldn't give a shit.  I explained the problem to them, and rather than reporting it and trying to get it fixed they just tell me to request a manual enrollment.  I feel sorry for the next poor bastard who has to go through the same shit as me when they could just fix it once and for all...  EAD Melbourne Uni.  Living up to your shit student service standards once again.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on July 13, 2012, 12:56:35 am
you should have just enrolled in the 5-8pm slot anyway until today then swapped if you got the chance :P

but anyways don't worry they'll have to fit you in somewhere, maybe go down to your student center and ask them to put you in. Also check the student portal every day, sometimes slots open up randomly. It happened with my breadth subject, there were no spots but then when i checked a few days later there were like 5 tutorials available for registration.

Well, it wouldn't have worked anyway since there was actually NO new spots at all today for that class. Like you know how if it is unavailable, they would say how many more spots would be open today? Well, they don't even have that message so yeah.. They just don't have any more spots at all apparently...

I emailed them so hopefully I get a response tomorrow. If not I will have to go through the 1.5 hours to get to Uni to get it sorted out. Sigh...

This is just where the Physics for Biomedicine fun begins my friend.  Brace yourself for a horror 12 weeks or so.  I think the subject is even worse now, because last year they just gave us 2 tests and an assignment to do.  Now you guys have assignments due every week.  I actually feel for you.  :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on July 13, 2012, 01:41:28 am
you should have just enrolled in the 5-8pm slot anyway until today then swapped if you got the chance :P

but anyways don't worry they'll have to fit you in somewhere, maybe go down to your student center and ask them to put you in. Also check the student portal every day, sometimes slots open up randomly. It happened with my breadth subject, there were no spots but then when i checked a few days later there were like 5 tutorials available for registration.

Well, it wouldn't have worked anyway since there was actually NO new spots at all today for that class. Like you know how if it is unavailable, they would say how many more spots would be open today? Well, they don't even have that message so yeah.. They just don't have any more spots at all apparently...

I emailed them so hopefully I get a response tomorrow. If not I will have to go through the 1.5 hours to get to Uni to get it sorted out. Sigh...

This is just where the Physics for Biomedicine fun begins my friend.  Brace yourself for a horror 12 weeks or so.  I think the subject is even worse now, because last year they just gave us 2 tests and an assignment to do.  Now you guys have assignments due every week.  I actually feel for you.  :/
At least you don't have Roger Rassool!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on July 13, 2012, 03:09:31 pm
Oh my god Rassool. He did no teaching for his 6 weeks of Physics 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on July 13, 2012, 03:51:30 pm
Funny story. I met this jaffy in O-week who was asking me what first year Physics was like and I said something along the lines of "There's this lecturer called Roger Rassool who tries too hard to be funny and doesn't teach you anything"

It turned out to be his son!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 04:19:58 pm
Funny story. I met this jaffy in O-week who was asking me what first year Physics was like and I said something along the lines of "There's this lecturer called Roger Rassool who tries too hard to be funny and doesn't teach you anything"

It turned out to be his son!

LOLOL what was the guy's response? I assume you just backed away slowly haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: xdecay on July 13, 2012, 04:35:23 pm
i got higher than the clearly-in ATAR, met all the prereqs and attained a h1 average for sem 1, yet i didn't get a mid-year offer to commerce while someone who got a lower ATAR got in. is there a point in contacting the uni at all in case there are any mistakes?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on July 13, 2012, 04:44:46 pm
i got higher than the clearly-in ATAR, met all the prereqs and attained a h1 average for sem 1, yet i didn't get a mid-year offer to commerce while someone who got a lower ATAR got in. is there a point in contacting the uni at all in case there are any mistakes?

Tell me, did you happen to fill in that 'Personal Information' form that was 'optional'?

I also averaged HD's while my friend averaged D's, but he beat me by 1 in ATAR (both under the clearly in by a bit) and he got in.

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 04:47:58 pm
i got higher than the clearly-in ATAR, met all the prereqs and attained a h1 average for sem 1, yet i didn't get a mid-year offer to commerce while someone who got a lower ATAR got in. is there a point in contacting the uni at all in case there are any mistakes?

Tell me, did you happen to fill in that 'Personal Information' form that was 'optional'?

I also averaged HD's while my friend averaged D's, but he beat me by 1 in ATAR (both under the clearly in by a bit) and he got in.



Are you going to try end of year transfer disafear?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on July 13, 2012, 04:51:02 pm
Are you going to try end of year transfer disafear?

Yea, of course. And it'll be easier too, as they don't look at my stupid ATAR
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 05:06:15 pm
Are you going to try end of year transfer disafear?

Yea, of course. And it'll be easier too, as they don't look at my stupid ATAR

So what does UoM offer that monash doesn't?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: aes_999 on July 13, 2012, 05:10:27 pm
Nothing much, except the prestige (and all the extras that come with it), and that location is generally closer to most students  :P.
Don't bash me, UoM people. Just pointing out the facts. Would've gone to UoM as well, if not for the fact I live a 15 min walk to Monash.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 05:13:23 pm
Nothing much, except the prestige (and all the extras that come with it), and that location is generally closer to most students  :P.
Don't bash me, UoM people. Just pointing out the facts. Would've gone to UoM as well, if not for the fact I live a 15 min walk to Monash.

Yeah If i were at monash, received the same qualifications, I would only transfer for distance to UoM
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on July 13, 2012, 05:19:21 pm
UoM has more options I guess + better research. If I wanted to do Science, I'd do it at UoM for sure.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: paulsterio on July 13, 2012, 05:20:17 pm
Monash, Melbourne - same really - just go to whichever is more convenient for you. I live 15 mins away from Monash by car, I'm not going to go to UoM just because it's a hassle to travel so far!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: DisaFear on July 13, 2012, 05:24:23 pm
So what does UoM offer that monash doesn't?


Lol, the first reason is probably the only valid one XD
But from what I've heard, Monash Sci seems to be easier. For now.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 05:27:00 pm
So what does UoM offer that monash doesn't?

  • 30 mins of travel as opposed to 80 mins
  • Lots of familiar faces
  • Close to the city - limitless fun
  • Beautiful place - studied at Giblin-Eunson library during SWOTVAC with friends, hot damn, wonderful place! ^-^

Lol, the first reason is probably the only valid one XD
But from what I've heard, Monash Sci seems to be easier. For now.

depends on the subjects, mine were pretty easy this sem (e.g. didn't do maths, physics)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 13, 2012, 09:23:18 pm
Melbourne is better for postgrad and research to my knowledge, but I don't really have anything specific to cite that or back it up, I've just heard it somewhere.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: paulsterio on July 14, 2012, 11:32:58 am
Melbourne is better for postgrad and research to my knowledge, but I don't really have anything specific to cite that or back it up, I've just heard it somewhere.

It probably depends on the area of research though, you can't just blanket it, Monash has its own perks too.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on July 14, 2012, 05:03:58 pm
Melbourne is better for postgrad and research to my knowledge, but I don't really have anything specific to cite that or back it up, I've just heard it somewhere.

It probably depends on the area of research though, you can't just blanket it, Monash has its own perks too.

Monash has an excellent pharmacology dep, one of the best.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 14, 2012, 06:57:59 pm
This is the UoM thread, go away with your Monash propaganda  ::)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 17, 2012, 03:59:14 pm
Is the LMS suppose to be fully updated with semester 2's subjects or will they be progressively updated till the end of this week or something? Because it only shows 3 of semester 2's units and 1 from last semester :S I've enrolled into all of this semesters and i'm not repeating it so is there something wrong or it's just not completely updated yet?
And how do we what our booklist is? Cos i dunno if i need any lecture booklets or whatever that you get from the book store.
Thanks~ ^^
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 17, 2012, 05:11:54 pm
Is the LMS suppose to be fully updated with semester 2's subjects or will they be progressively updated till the end of this week or something? Because it only shows 3 of semester 2's units and 1 from last semester :S I've enrolled into all of this semesters and i'm not repeating it so is there something wrong or it's just not completely updated yet?
And how do we what our booklist is? Cos i dunno if i need any lecture booklets or whatever that you get from the book store.
Thanks~ ^^

no stress. one of my subjects isn't up yet either and 2 of my previous subjects are up, first semester my subjects were only fully updated a couple days before uni started. Yeah no idea with the booklist either, I might go in to the bookshop to see if anything is actually instore yet.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 18, 2012, 12:35:00 pm
Yeh after talking to friends about it, it seems that they're still updating them :) all good! Yeah booklist... stuff it i'll just buy it next week when i find out what i need lol
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 18, 2012, 12:55:00 pm
Booklists are hell.
They changed it so that it links you to the Co-op website and you have to search it out there.
It is pretty unusable. Much easier to just go in and pester them at the enquiry desk asking them if there are any readers/workbooks for
the specific subject :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on July 19, 2012, 12:14:47 pm
Should I purchase the Course Materials for Principles of Business Law? They're $76 and don't accept cash. >:(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 19, 2012, 01:09:30 pm
chem10004 lectures not recorded.. what a joke.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 19, 2012, 01:13:39 pm
I think I've read somewhere that it's cheaper to just take a uni book for the semester and pay the late fee, it ends up being cheaper than the book outright.

I never used the textbooks last semester anyway, I regret buying them. The internet has all of the answers if you just search, and tbh youtube videos explain things better than textbooks can when it comes to more complex concepts.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Sah123 on July 19, 2012, 04:33:11 pm
Okay, so I thought I was filling out a request for my timetable to be altered but it ended up being a staff request which opened up more classes :\
I emailed the student centre to say I had made a mistake, is there anything else I should do? A friend told me it was a student request form so I didn't think twice about it! Ahh, bullants.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: physics on July 19, 2012, 07:48:32 pm
I thought I'd troll here but why is there no ACU university section :'(

Anyway question: is doing masters in nursing worth it?
I think i asked this a while back but i lost the post somewhere.

I can either do a bachelors at my uni for 1.5 or a masters at UoM for 2 years? which way to goo?

Ps. long time no see people :D if anyone still rmbrs me :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 19, 2012, 08:15:27 pm
Re: UoM General Chat
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: physics on July 19, 2012, 08:30:08 pm
Re: UoM General Chat
Ta. but nobody answered my question,.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 20, 2012, 11:29:21 am
oh woops, i thought you had just lost it.

Sorry I don't actually know the answer or have any input at all :\

gl with finding the answer though.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 20, 2012, 12:48:07 pm
Should I purchase the Course Materials for Principles of Business Law? They're $76 and don't accept cash. >:(

Yes you need to buy it. The computer tutorials are godly with understanding/revision.
You also need the case summaries in the book since I don't think they are available elsewhere.
The reason why you can't buy someone else's book is because each cd comes with a license number and
unless you find someway to use the same number twice, you won't be able to access the tutes at home.

EDIT: Yay for 100th post trying to be somewhat helpful!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on July 20, 2012, 12:50:20 pm
Should I purchase the Course Materials for Principles of Business Law? They're $76 and don't accept cash. >:(

Yes you need to buy it. The computer tutorials are godly with understanding/revision.
You also need the case summaries in the book since I don't think they are available elsewhere.
The reason why you can't buy someone else's book is because each cd comes with a license number and
unless you find someway to use the same number twice, you won't be able to access the tutes at home.

The strangest thing of all is they only accept credit/debit cards, and not cash. Can we pay via a savings account?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 20, 2012, 02:10:30 pm
Should I purchase the Course Materials for Principles of Business Law? They're $76 and don't accept cash. >:(

Yes you need to buy it. The computer tutorials are godly with understanding/revision.
You also need the case summaries in the book since I don't think they are available elsewhere.
The reason why you can't buy someone else's book is because each cd comes with a license number and
unless you find someway to use the same number twice, you won't be able to access the tutes at home.

The strangest thing of all is they only accept credit/debit cards, and not cash. Can we pay via a savings account?

EFTPOS? Yes you can.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 22, 2012, 10:32:14 am
ahhhh... Another semester of tedium starts tomorrow.

C'est la vie :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 22, 2012, 10:42:37 am
ahhhh... Another semester of tedium starts tomorrow.

C'est la vie :(

That's not the spirit! Let's get some H1s :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 22, 2012, 11:15:25 am
ahhhh... Another semester of tedium starts tomorrow.

C'est la vie :(


That's not the spirit! Let's get some H1s :D

i'm PUMPED!! Bring on the H1s :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: cibicl on July 22, 2012, 08:38:41 pm
First year commerce students; has ATA (ACCT10002) dissapeared off your timetable too?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on July 22, 2012, 09:00:17 pm
I feel the bloody-minded desire to inform everyone that I have days off Monday and hence start on Tuesday!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: seretide on July 22, 2012, 09:26:28 pm
I feel the bloody-minded desire to inform everyone that I have days off Monday and hence start on Tuesday!


How do you sleep at night...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 22, 2012, 10:25:23 pm
Anyone know how to get into arts west, I have a lecture there tomorrow?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 22, 2012, 10:45:01 pm
First year commerce students; has ATA (ACCT10002) dissapeared off your timetable too?
Yeah it did for me... lol pretty reliable system they've got running, unless they're changing something.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 22, 2012, 11:01:22 pm
Anyone know how to get into arts west, I have a lecture there tomorrow?

"Re access to the Copland. The stairs for access will be well sign posted, however there is a map in the Lecture section of the LMS showing how to enter the theatre. Please do not enter any restricted areas. Disabled access is via the lift in the foyer of the building on the North side. "
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on July 22, 2012, 11:05:29 pm
Anyone know how to get into arts west, I have a lecture there tomorrow?

"Re access to the Copland. The stairs for access will be well sign posted, however there is a map in the Lecture section of the LMS showing how to enter the theatre. Please do not enter any restricted areas. Disabled access is via the lift in the foyer of the building on the North side. "

Thanks for that!
Pumped for my 8am lecture! 8D
Bring on the 6am wake ups and caffeine reliance!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 22, 2012, 11:07:57 pm
Anyone know how to get into arts west, I have a lecture there tomorrow?

"Re access to the Copland. The stairs for access will be well sign posted, however there is a map in the Lecture section of the LMS showing how to enter the theatre. Please do not enter any restricted areas. Disabled access is via the lift in the foyer of the building on the North side. "

Thanks for that!
Pumped for my 8am lecture! 8D
Bring on the 6am wake ups and caffeine reliance!

No probs :) Good luck for tomorrow :P

My lecture starts 11am so i get to sleep in a bit

Here is a map of the access routes to Copeland.

http://app.lms.unimelb.edu.au/bbcswebdav/pid-3586261-dt-content-rid-10838088_2/courses/BIOL10005_2012_SM2/COPELAND%20THEATRE%20ACCESS%20PLAN%20.pdf
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 22, 2012, 11:25:33 pm
Jinny1, I can't really interpret the map (i know i'm clueless haha).

Can I enter near the zoology building?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 22, 2012, 11:51:02 pm
Jinny1, I can't really interpret the map (i know i'm clueless haha).

Can I enter near the zoology building?

I don't know where Zoology building is but it seems like the easiest way is to walk through adjacent to the cafe in front of Copeland Theatre :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 23, 2012, 07:44:38 pm
Is the timetabling playing up for anyone? It keeps saying registering is unavailable but then after a few page refreshes it starts to work...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on July 23, 2012, 10:22:28 pm
Is the timetabling playing up for anyone? It keeps saying registering is unavailable but then after a few page refreshes it starts to work...

Does it say that it's not availale for four hours or something? This has happened to me a few times but will work a little while later.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on July 23, 2012, 10:48:12 pm
Is the timetabling playing up for anyone? It keeps saying registering is unavailable but then after a few page refreshes it starts to work...

Does it say that it's not availale for four hours or something? This has happened to me a few times but will work a little while later.
Yeah that happened :/ And some of the lecture streams are weird it shows 2 of the 3 lectures but the 3rd one isnt there... AND ive got a missing subject there lol but it still detects that they're in the time slots that i registered in during the holidays... bloody hell lol

Does anyone know if they record linear algebra lectures?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 24, 2012, 03:46:30 pm
Freaking hate it when lecturers spend all their time just reading off the screen slides.

ffs tell us something that we havn't already read
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on July 25, 2012, 06:02:34 pm
So our lecturer didn't come to our lecture today -.- everybody left.

What happens now?? this is the only chem stream, everybody is one lecture behind
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 25, 2012, 06:14:48 pm
So our lecturer didn't come to our lecture today -.- everybody left.

What happens now?? this is the only chem stream, everybody is one lecture behind

Maybe he'll aim to merge 2 lectures or something..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 25, 2012, 08:29:46 pm
biophysics is actually very interesting, if not somewhat too easy to begin with, i'm actually very glad i picked this subject so far because it is just practical physics knowledge to do with stuff that i'm interested in (chemistry and physics) without the annoying stuff (sound, structures, some of the more pointless motion things, etc)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 25, 2012, 09:05:39 pm
biophysics is actually very interesting, if not somewhat too easy to begin with, i'm actually very glad i picked this subject so far because it is just practical physics knowledge to do with stuff that i'm interested in (chemistry and physics) without the annoying stuff (sound, structures, some of the more pointless motion things, etc)

how are you finding chem 2 vivatequila? (you are doing chem 2 yeah?)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on July 25, 2012, 10:05:58 pm
So our lecturer didn't come to our lecture today -.- everybody left.

What happens now?? this is the only chem stream, everybody is one lecture behind

If this was Chemistry 1, let me tell you gripping story. Came to uni at 1pm for my CHEM10003 tutorial, since it said they started on Week 1 on the Chem1 board. Walk in to a tutor telling me they start next week. Then go to  my first chem lecture, and lecturer doesn't show up. First chemistry subject at university is looking great already!!!!!  :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: spectroscopy on July 25, 2012, 11:40:40 pm
can you swap degrees at the end of first year, eg arts to science, if your breadth subjects are science ones like calc and chem etc. or no way
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on July 25, 2012, 11:48:59 pm
can you swap degrees at the end of first year, eg arts to science, if your breadth subjects are science ones like calc and chem etc. or no way

Yes you can, and you can credit your core arts subjects (if going arts to science) as breadth and credit your science breadths as core credit in your BSci degree.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: spectroscopy on July 25, 2012, 11:53:47 pm
sweet, is this even if you didnt fill up the vce pre-reqs for science?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: sluu001 on July 26, 2012, 12:35:40 am
Uni won't allow you to tranfer into sci if you don't have the pre-reqs.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 26, 2012, 06:23:41 pm
biophysics is actually very interesting, if not somewhat too easy to begin with, i'm actually very glad i picked this subject so far because it is just practical physics knowledge to do with stuff that i'm interested in (chemistry and physics) without the annoying stuff (sound, structures, some of the more pointless motion things, etc)

how are you finding chem 2 vivatequila? (you are doing chem 2 yeah?)

Poorly explained, but if you consult a book you'll get it. The second lecture was a skullfuck but when I spent like 15mins on YouTube searching concepts I learnt it NP. This is the stuff that I actually picked chemistry to do, and I've previously just read up on similar sorts of things, so this isn't all that whack. I'm just glad I actually learned Chemistry 1 properly because otherwise it would be a lot harder to understand.

I hate the fucking lecturer though... people like him honestly need to be put down.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on July 26, 2012, 07:44:36 pm
biophysics is actually very interesting, if not somewhat too easy to begin with, i'm actually very glad i picked this subject so far because it is just practical physics knowledge to do with stuff that i'm interested in (chemistry and physics) without the annoying stuff (sound, structures, some of the more pointless motion things, etc)

how are you finding chem 2 vivatequila? (you are doing chem 2 yeah?)

Poorly explained, but if you consult a book you'll get it. The second lecture was a skullfuck but when I spent like 15mins on YouTube searching concepts I learnt it NP. This is the stuff that I actually picked chemistry to do, and I've previously just read up on similar sorts of things, so this isn't all that whack. I'm just glad I actually learned Chemistry 1 properly because otherwise it would be a lot harder to understand.

I hate the fucking lecturer though... people like him honestly need to be put down.

I think he's enthusiastic, which is great but I think enthusiastic + great lecturer is a combination that you can rarely find nowadays..

Tutorial was very helpful today though. About the chem 1 thing, i don't think it's toooo bad without having done it (so far), it's basically the same stuff we looked at (so far).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on July 27, 2012, 09:07:52 pm
Anyone with experience doing linear algebra and calculus 2?

I was planning on doing linear algebra over this summer without having done calc 2, would that be a problem?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on July 27, 2012, 09:29:28 pm
Anyone with experience doing linear algebra and calculus 2?

I was planning on doing linear algebra over this summer without having done calc 2, would that be a problem?

Just completed Calc 2 and doing linear algebra now. You don't need to do Calc 2 before hand, but it is recommended you do it before Linear Algebra because it flows on nicely from Specialist/Calc1. LinAlg and Calc 2 are two different mathematic subjects and teach different things, so you should be good with L.A. over the summer.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on July 28, 2012, 12:17:24 am
Anyone with experience doing linear algebra and calculus 2?

I was planning on doing linear algebra over this summer without having done calc 2, would that be a problem?

Just completed Calc 2 and doing linear algebra now. You don't need to do Calc 2 before hand, but it is recommended you do it before Linear Algebra because it flows on nicely from Specialist/Calc1. LinAlg and Calc 2 are two different mathematic subjects and teach different things, so you should be good with L.A. over the summer.

Cool, cool, thanks :) I'd be doing it straight after calc 1 so it shouldn't be too bad I guess :)

Just out of curiosity, since its done over the 'summer', which specific months would I be completing it in and, also, would it count towards my 1st or 2nd year in regards to my GPA calculation?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on July 28, 2012, 12:30:34 am
Anyone with experience doing linear algebra and calculus 2?

I was planning on doing linear algebra over this summer without having done calc 2, would that be a problem?

Just completed Calc 2 and doing linear algebra now. You don't need to do Calc 2 before hand, but it is recommended you do it before Linear Algebra because it flows on nicely from Specialist/Calc1. LinAlg and Calc 2 are two different mathematic subjects and teach different things, so you should be good with L.A. over the summer.

Cool, cool, thanks :) I'd be doing it straight after calc 1 so it shouldn't be too bad I guess :)

Just out of curiosity, since its done over the 'summer', which specific months would I be completing it in and, also, would it count towards my 1st or 2nd year in regards to my GPA calculation?

I believe the summer semester includes January and maybe a bit of February. I believe Linear Algebra is a 1st year subject so it would count towards your 1st year?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on July 28, 2012, 10:37:22 am
I'm fairly sure that each summer semester is part of the next year, so you will technically be doing it in 2nd year. Also, I could do a first year subject in third year and it would count towards my 3rd year gpa, so I dont think it matters what level subject it is, just when you take it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on July 28, 2012, 11:49:50 am
I'm fairly sure that each summer semester is part of the next year, so you will technically be doing it in 2nd year. Also, I could do a first year subject in third year and it would count towards my 3rd year gpa, so I dont think it matters what level subject it is, just when you take it.

Mm yeah that's what I was thinking. So, in theory, wouldn't it be better to take a level 1 subject (such as linear algebra) in 3rd year in order for it to be weighted more highly towards your GPA (assuming one is surely to do well in it)?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on July 28, 2012, 12:34:14 pm
I'm fairly sure that each summer semester is part of the next year, so you will technically be doing it in 2nd year. Also, I could do a first year subject in third year and it would count towards my 3rd year gpa, so I dont think it matters what level subject it is, just when you take it.

Lvl 1 subjects get weighted least. Lvl 2 subjects get weighted intermediate. Lvl 3 subjects get weighted most. AFAIK it doesn't matter what year you take the subjects.
Mm yeah that's what I was thinking. So, in theory, wouldn't it be better to take a level 1 subject (such as linear algebra) in 3rd year in order for it to be weighted more highly towards your GPA (assuming one is surely to do well in it)?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 28, 2012, 12:53:13 pm
If you're talking about med applications, there's a thread that explains all this...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on July 28, 2012, 01:34:55 pm
If you're talking about med applications, there's a thread that explains all this...

This might be a longshot, but you wouldn't happen to have a link for it would you?  THe search engine for atarnotes isn't really helping..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 28, 2012, 01:39:01 pm
It's the second item if you search for "GPA"

GPA for PostGraduate Medicine Explained
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on July 28, 2012, 01:41:23 pm
:S awks.


thanks babyspice! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on July 30, 2012, 01:41:09 pm
Actual fact given in my lecture today

"Meningitis can cause any symptoms of brain damage. Eg cognitive defects, such as being a Monash student"

<3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on August 05, 2012, 10:15:00 pm
Hi guys, I'm doing management as a breadth now but I'm thinking of dropping it and doing it as a summer subject instead. Will I still be able to do in 3 rd year the normal 4 subjects per semester ? Or does doing a summer subject mean I only get to do 7 subjects in 3rd year in the 2 semesters ? Ps this is my last breadth subject
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on August 05, 2012, 10:27:28 pm
Hi guys, I'm doing management as a breadth now but I'm thinking of dropping it and doing it as a summer subject instead. Will I still be able to do in 3 rd year the normal 4 subjects per semester ? Or does doing a summer subject mean I only get to do 7 subjects in 3rd year in the 2 semesters ? Ps this is my last breadth subject

Depends on how many subjects you've each semester thus far.

But as a general rule, you must do a minimum and a maximum* of 24 subjects.

*Excludes approved overloading and CAP subjects.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Cuddlekins on August 06, 2012, 10:07:34 am
okay, i just thought if you did it in summer it rolls over to third year.  so im currently in 2nd year, ive done a summer subject(make up a subject in first year because i didn't do a breadth in one of the semesters), sem 1: 4 subjects including one breadth, sem 2: currently 4 subjects with breadth.
Third year: planning to do summer subject, 4 sciences in each semester. So doing essentially 9 subjects in third year. just need confirmation before i decide to drop my breadth, thanks heaps!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 06, 2012, 07:19:05 pm
If I understand it right, you can do that, as long as you drop one of your subjects this semester. As Gloamglozer said, you can only do a max of 24 subjects. That means if you take two subjects over summer semesters (doesn't matter which one), you have to have two semesters with only three subjects.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on August 07, 2012, 12:03:28 am
Is anyone else noticing that there seems to be weekly deadlines and a lot more coordination required than last semester? I'm actually using a diary this time around, and I'm still struggling...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on August 07, 2012, 12:18:31 am
Is anyone else noticing that there seems to be weekly deadlines and a lot more coordination required than last semester? I'm actually using a diary this time around, and I'm still struggling...

This time last semester I was still cruising along pretty nicely.
Now I am finding myself slipping behind on work already :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 07, 2012, 08:37:02 am
Is anyone else noticing that there seems to be weekly deadlines and a lot more coordination required than last semester? I'm actually using a diary this time around, and I'm still struggling...

I find that I can never finish anything, even after 4 hr days in the library..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on August 07, 2012, 08:18:53 pm
Has anyone else noticed the changed format of lecture recordings on lectopia? Is anyone else having the videos stop and start alot?

I don't deal well with change... :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 07, 2012, 08:34:57 pm
Has anyone else noticed the changed format of lecture recordings on lectopia? Is anyone else having the videos stop and start alot?

I don't deal well with change... :/

I just download the lecture recording...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on August 07, 2012, 09:25:31 pm
Has anyone else noticed the changed format of lecture recordings on lectopia? Is anyone else having the videos stop and start alot?

I don't deal well with change... :/

I just download the lecture recording...

This! Downloads so quickly at Uni anyway. ahahah
Use the Uni internet, save on data at home and can rewatch it in the future. +1!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on August 07, 2012, 11:16:15 pm
Has anyone else noticed the changed format of lecture recordings on lectopia? Is anyone else having the videos stop and start alot?

I don't deal well with change... :/

I just download the lecture recording...

This! Downloads so quickly at Uni anyway. ahahah
Use the Uni internet, save on data at home and can rewatch it in the future. +1!

I've never used lectopia, but now that I have a laptop I guess it's a good time to start hey? Pretty useful actually, considering I missed 2 genetics lecture and now as far as I'm concerned it's just blown way outta proportion.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: davidle_10 on August 09, 2012, 11:28:17 pm
Has anyone joined the commerce first year leadership forum?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on August 11, 2012, 08:03:22 pm
Could someone tell me what the point of overloading is in University?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on August 11, 2012, 09:21:53 pm
Could someone tell me what the point of overloading is in University?

I plan on studying abroad next semester, but to complete the 2nd year level pre-requisites for my major, I need to undertake 7 core subjects (3 for med, 4 for my major).

If I am doing half of it overseas and the subjects do not count, then I only have 4 subjects next year. 5 if I overload, and maybe a summer subject before I leave, and a summer subject when I come back, and I've satisfied my 7 pre-requisites.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on August 12, 2012, 04:17:11 pm
How many of your core subjects are actually offered in summer though? None of the med prereqs are. Need a H2B average in the six months before you plan to overload too.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on August 12, 2012, 07:51:34 pm
Graduating from my Bachelor of Engineering degree tommorow night!
YAY!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on August 12, 2012, 07:56:16 pm
Graduating from my Bachelor of Engineering degree tommorow night!
YAY!

Congrats peepers(/Squance)! :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on August 12, 2012, 07:58:01 pm
Thank you VegemitePi! I am quite excited about it! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on August 12, 2012, 08:17:12 pm
Graduating from my Bachelor of Engineering degree tommorow night!
YAY!
Congratz! What are your plans now? :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 12, 2012, 08:53:16 pm
Could someone tell me what the point of overloading is in University?

I plan on studying abroad next semester, but to complete the 2nd year level pre-requisites for my major, I need to undertake 7 core subjects (3 for med, 4 for my major).

If I am doing half of it overseas and the subjects do not count, then I only have 4 subjects next year. 5 if I overload, and maybe a summer subject before I leave, and a summer subject when I come back, and I've satisfied my 7 pre-requisites.

Why are you choosing to go overseas and not credit subjects to your degree? Or is that not what you're saying...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: peepers on August 12, 2012, 09:02:30 pm
Graduating from my Bachelor of Engineering degree tommorow night!
YAY!
Congratz! What are your plans now? :D

Find a career in my field :) :) (and to catch on all the socialising that I have neglected due to university :) )
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 12, 2012, 09:05:35 pm
Do all the socialising ever.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: spectroscopy on August 14, 2012, 06:05:46 pm
if you do the chancellors scholars program, is it a free degree AND 5000 a year, or do they give you 5000 a year but you have to pay too
cos i think monashes equivalent they give you 10k or something but they dont waive your fees and loan?
idk LOL
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on August 14, 2012, 06:09:17 pm
if you do the chancellors scholars program, is it a free degree AND 5000 a year, or do they give you 5000 a year but you have to pay too
cos i think monashes equivalent they give you 10k or something but they dont waive your fees and loan?
idk LOL

Lol... No fees + $5000 p.a.

Monash's is the same, but $6000 instead.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on August 14, 2012, 09:34:19 pm
if you do the chancellors scholars program, is it a free degree AND 5000 a year, or do they give you 5000 a year but you have to pay too
cos i think monashes equivalent they give you 10k or something but they dont waive your fees and loan?
idk LOL

Lol... No fees + $5000 p.a.

Monash's is the same, but $6000 instead.

Monash's Engineering Excellence doesn't cover fees. It's 6k a year for 4 years (75 WAM minimum each semester).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: spectroscopy on August 14, 2012, 10:39:35 pm
this was the one i was talking about
holyyy, 12k a year & a one off payment of 4
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/scholarships/sir-john/exceptional/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on August 14, 2012, 10:45:40 pm
this was the one i was talking about
holyyy, 12k a year & a one off payment of 4
http://www.monash.edu.au/study/scholarships/sir-john/exceptional/

That's only for 99.95 though, chancellor's is also for 99.90.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on August 23, 2012, 11:51:26 am
Anyone here know of any good spaces that you can eat and study at? Especially in the evening, after classes.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: sluu001 on August 23, 2012, 08:02:35 pm
2nd floor law building. Quiet and comfortable atmosphere. Although the law library on the 3rd lvl is silent study only.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on August 23, 2012, 08:03:29 pm
Anyone here know of any good spaces that you can eat and study at? Especially in the evening, after classes.

I like studying at Rowden White haha even though it's a "recreational" place but whatevs :P and the green comfy chairs <3 (It makes me feel less stressed?) hahaha and I loveee the french cafe near bubblecup :3 Yes, I pretty much live in Union House LOL
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on August 23, 2012, 08:38:04 pm
2nd floor law building. Quiet and comfortable atmosphere. Although the law library on the 3rd lvl is silent study only.
I shall check that out. Thanks! Food allowed? hahah

Anyone here know of any good spaces that you can eat and study at? Especially in the evening, after classes.

I like studying at Rowden White haha even though it's a "recreational" place but whatevs :P and the green comfy chairs <3 (It makes me feel less stressed?) hahaha and I loveee the french cafe near bubblecup :3 Yes, I pretty much live in Union House LOL

I love chilling in Rowden White. I would study in Union House but they close most of the seating by 6, which is the time I am trying to find  a place to study :/
Yes I spend my entire day in uni and only go home back in suburb-land at night.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on August 23, 2012, 08:55:19 pm
2nd floor law building. Quiet and comfortable atmosphere. Although the law library on the 3rd lvl is silent study only.
I shall check that out. Thanks! Food allowed? hahah

Anyone here know of any good spaces that you can eat and study at? Especially in the evening, after classes.

I like studying at Rowden White haha even though it's a "recreational" place but whatevs :P and the green comfy chairs <3 (It makes me feel less stressed?) hahaha and I loveee the french cafe near bubblecup :3 Yes, I pretty much live in Union House LOL

I love chilling in Rowden White. I would study in Union House but they close most of the seating by 6, which is the time I am trying to find  a place to study :/
Yes I spend my entire day in uni and only go home back in suburb-land at night.

Is the chemistry building open at 6?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on August 23, 2012, 10:11:44 pm
2nd floor law building. Quiet and comfortable atmosphere. Although the law library on the 3rd lvl is silent study only.
I shall check that out. Thanks! Food allowed? hahah

Anyone here know of any good spaces that you can eat and study at? Especially in the evening, after classes.

I like studying at Rowden White haha even though it's a "recreational" place but whatevs :P and the green comfy chairs <3 (It makes me feel less stressed?) hahaha and I loveee the french cafe near bubblecup :3 Yes, I pretty much live in Union House LOL

I love chilling in Rowden White. I would study in Union House but they close most of the seating by 6, which is the time I am trying to find  a place to study :/
Yes I spend my entire day in uni and only go home back in suburb-land at night.

Is the chemistry building open at 6?

It closes earlier. I think it's open until 5 or 6.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 28, 2012, 11:23:05 pm
Finishing an assignment<-- best feeling in the world (especially when you finish 2 days earlier than you anticipated)!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on August 28, 2012, 11:33:53 pm
Finishing an assignment<-- best feeling in the world (especially when you finish 2 days earlier than you anticipated)!

Intercultural Communication I assume? Good job!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on August 28, 2012, 11:52:26 pm
Finishing an assignment<-- best feeling in the world (especially when you finish 2 days earlier than you anticipated)!

Intercultural Communication I assume? Good job!

Omg Intercultural communication assignment 1 is doing my head in! :-\ Anyone know what we're meant to include in the appendices?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 28, 2012, 11:56:05 pm
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on August 29, 2012, 12:05:51 am
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 29, 2012, 12:08:10 am
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\

Yeah that's just sort of like age, gender <-- just mentioning those were the sorts of things you took into account..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on August 29, 2012, 06:39:09 pm
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Alright, was pushed for time due to bio and chem etc. Yes me too, have 4 lectures to watch this weekend, 2 for IC and 2 for bio which I miss due to my IC tute.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on August 29, 2012, 09:22:17 pm
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\

Mentioning a few examples and then saying the rest is in the appendix for more info might be an option.

Good luck guys with it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 29, 2012, 09:25:29 pm
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\

Mentioning a few examples and then saying the rest is in the appendix for more info might be an option. This has honestly been one of the hardest assignments I have done in my life. Nonetheless it was a pretty good one!

Good luck "guys" with it (hehe).

I actually enjoyed this assignment, really interesting picking up all these things in natural conversation. Hate referencing though! Ended up getting like 10 which makes it even harder.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on August 29, 2012, 09:31:23 pm
Gathering the examples from real life situations was also harder than I thought it would be, I had to actively spend time outside eg. studying in open areas.

I think I also got about 10 or so references in the end, I guess it's better to be over backed as compared to under.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on August 31, 2012, 03:39:28 pm
10 is a lot?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on August 31, 2012, 04:51:54 pm
10 is a lot?

For 1500 words, yes.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on September 02, 2012, 10:18:35 am
10 is a lot?

For us humans and considering the word limit (as previously mentioned) it is quite a few, but there was a requirement for 5.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 02, 2012, 10:53:45 am
I wouldn't think 10 is quite a lot for 1500 words, but I tend to overreference anyway so *shrug*
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on September 02, 2012, 11:08:55 am
(http://i.imgur.com/erJBa.png)

ugh fuck off UoM
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 02, 2012, 01:43:03 pm
Assignments make me want to cry. Always end up falling behind with everything else.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 03, 2012, 04:21:02 pm
Anyone who does mind, brain and behaviour 2: does anyone know if there is a word limit we have to follow for each part of the essay? How long should the introduction be?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: SDPHD on September 03, 2012, 05:37:55 pm
(http://i.qkme.me/3qqrxn.jpg)

amirite?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on September 10, 2012, 01:12:06 pm
Anyone who does mind, brain and behaviour 2: does anyone know if there is a word limit we have to follow for each part of the essay? How long should the introduction be?

I don't think there's a word limit for each part of the essay but ideally the body should be at least 50-60% of the word count :) My intros and conclusions for previous 2000 word essays have been ~150 words each
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 10, 2012, 03:15:38 pm
Anyone who does mind, brain and behaviour 2: does anyone know if there is a word limit we have to follow for each part of the essay? How long should the introduction be?

I don't think there's a word limit for each part of the essay but ideally the body should be at least 50-60% of the word count :) My intros and conclusions for previous 2000 word essays have been ~150 words each

my intro is like 230 words.. hopefully that's ok.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on September 10, 2012, 06:55:01 pm
Anyone know what was going on this morning with all the police blocking the tram lines??? -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 10, 2012, 07:30:35 pm
Anyone know what was going on this morning with all the police blocking the tram lines??? -.-

Bomb scare apparently. 

Sorry guys, didn't intend to be such a pain.  :P

EDIT:  Ah, found it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on September 10, 2012, 07:38:11 pm
I dont care if i die!! i just want to get to my lectures on time, damn you police :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jeppikah on September 11, 2012, 10:37:28 am
Does anyone know where to get boiling water for on campus? I know that there is a kitchen area in The Spot but that's too far off the main part of the uni :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Tomw2 on September 11, 2012, 05:38:15 pm
I dont care if i die!! i just want to get to my lectures on time, damn you police :(

Due to that fiasco, I walked into a 30min infection control examination 15mins late!  >:(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on September 11, 2012, 09:45:12 pm
To those who've done Business law (PBL), how on earth do you remember all those cases?

Yeah, I know. I was warned about taking this subject :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on September 11, 2012, 10:16:10 pm
To those who've done Business law (PBL), how on earth do you remember all those cases?

Yeah, I know. I was warned about taking this subject :-\

It's really not that bad! ahahha
Just associate the title of the case with keywords instead of remembering exact details. Along side that, I also made a summary list onsistign of the title, issue, decision of court and reason.

Just so you know, the way they use the cases in exams is something along the lines of "Situation A happened. What  case should Mr X use to swing the court in their favour?"
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on September 11, 2012, 11:03:49 pm
To those who've done Business law (PBL), how on earth do you remember all those cases?

Yeah, I know. I was warned about taking this subject :-\

It's really not that bad! ahahha
Just associate the title of the case with keywords instead of remembering exact details. Along side that, I also made a summary list onsistign of the title, issue, decision of court and reason.

Just so you know, the way they use the cases in exams is something along the lines of "Situation A happened. What  case should Mr X use to swing the court in their favour?"

Yeah it's just I haven't familiarised myself with any of the cases except for the funny ones like Carbolic Smoke Ball. It's so difficult to remember them all, even vaguely. Spent the past two days just reading case after case (Yes - I read every case from week 4 lecture to week 7, too much info). I suppose if I read them periodically up until swotvac I'll be fine..right?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lilaznkev1n on September 12, 2012, 06:50:12 pm
To those who've done Business law (PBL), how on earth do you remember all those cases?

Yeah, I know. I was warned about taking this subject :-\
I usually only remember one half of the name of the case and associate it with something related to the facts of the case. Some of my techniques is pretty weird and random.
Some are pretty straightforward e.g. Ermogenous v Greek Orthodox Community of SA, I just remember Greek Orthodox and associate it with the church minister and employee contracts.
For Henthorn v Fraser I remember Henthorn and associate it with "Hen(s)" which are small and slow so I immediately remember that the case is about acceptances of offers by mail.
For Placer Development Ltd v Cth I remember the Placer Development part of the contract and associate with Place Deveopment (House Building) so I immediately remember that the case is about buying timber products for subsidies.
I did that for all of the cases.

Yes, I know I have ridiculous memorizing techniques but it works for me.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on September 13, 2012, 09:05:30 pm
Genetics MST tomorrow and I know nothing! Winning at life!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on September 13, 2012, 09:09:45 pm
Genetics MST tomorrow and I know nothing! Winning at life!

It's damn harddd :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 14, 2012, 12:56:11 am
Hey guys what is an acceptable turnitin originality percentage, I got 27% before and had to reword everything!! I guess if there's chunks of red in the references that doesn't matter..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 14, 2012, 12:56:41 am
Genetics MST tomorrow and I know nothing! Winning at life!

It's damn harddd :(

I thought it was fair. Now not sure so of how I went since everyone is saying it was hard :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on September 14, 2012, 02:11:13 am
Hey guys what is an acceptable turnitin originality percentage, I got 27% before and had to reword everything!! I guess if there's chunks of red in the references that doesn't matter..

I had 19% for an essay last sem but I think it's also because of the in-text references that can be the same as previous essays? My tutor at the time didn't make a big deal of it =/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 14, 2012, 03:41:46 am
<25%
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on September 14, 2012, 05:47:05 pm
Genetics MST tomorrow and I know nothing! Winning at life!

It's damn harddd :(

I thought it was fair. Now not sure so of how I went since everyone is saying it was hard :S

I guess it was fair..

There were really easy questions on the last page, but overall definitely a level above what the practice questions were.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 14, 2012, 11:21:55 pm
Genetics MST tomorrow and I know nothing! Winning at life!

It's damn harddd :(

I thought it was fair. Now not sure so of how I went since everyone is saying it was hard :S

I guess it was fair..

There were really easy questions on the last page, but overall definitely a level above what the practice questions were.

Maybe in the sense that there wasn't linkage on the practice qs.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 14, 2012, 11:22:35 pm
Hey guys what is an acceptable turnitin originality percentage, I got 27% before and had to reword everything!! I guess if there's chunks of red in the references that doesn't matter..

I had 19% for an essay last sem but I think it's also because of the in-text references that can be the same as previous essays? My tutor at the time didn't make a big deal of it =/

I ended up rewording everything and got a 15% similar score, so hopefully it's ok now.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 15, 2012, 02:41:21 am
Seriously, the general rule is <25%.
Can you see your similarity report?  Sometimes it doesn't even matter because there are similarities between you and universities in like China and shit.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on September 15, 2012, 09:07:51 am
@El2012 could you see your similarity score for the Intercultural Communication assignment? Mine says that it's not available, does this mean they don't want us to see it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 15, 2012, 10:21:09 am
Seriously, the general rule is <25%.
Can you see your similarity report?  Sometimes it doesn't even matter because there are similarities between you and universities in like China and shit.

lol I was just being careless before and there were massive chunks of red everywhere but there's minimal now and it's basically just in my references.

@El2012 could you see your similarity score for the Intercultural Communication assignment? Mine says that it's not available, does this mean they don't want us to see it?

Nah I couldn't see it for that one either.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on September 18, 2012, 10:54:02 am
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560409_10151188138039587_1484010045_n.jpg)

#El2012 #grafitti #culpritatlarge
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on September 18, 2012, 11:01:00 am
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560409_10151188138039587_1484010045_n.jpg)

#El2012 #grafitti #culpritatlarge

whoaa awesome pic of Heisenberg :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 18, 2012, 11:15:21 am
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560409_10151188138039587_1484010045_n.jpg)

#El2012 #grafitti #culpritatlarge

hahaha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Tomw2 on September 18, 2012, 07:50:57 pm
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/560409_10151188138039587_1484010045_n.jpg

#El2012 #grafitti #culpritatlarge

This. Is. Awesome.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on September 19, 2012, 10:31:56 pm
Gaaahhhh no motivation to do anything :(
I've got a lot to catch up on too!!! Need to review the previous accounting subject D: Do all the exercises for linear algebra, along with a couple of assignments due in the first week! Yet I've done NOTHING....

Help?.. haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 19, 2012, 10:42:31 pm
Gaaahhhh no motivation to do anything :(
I've got a lot to catch up on too!!! Need to review the previous accounting subject D: Do all the exercises for linear algebra, along with a couple of assignments due in the first week! Yet I've done NOTHING....

Help?.. haha

go to the library, just somewhere away from distractions.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on September 19, 2012, 11:47:52 pm
Go to a library. I get zero study done at home - why study when you can sleep? At least when you sleep at uni you feel bad about it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on September 20, 2012, 02:39:48 am
^ too true


By the way, does anyone know if Science allows students to take extra summer subjects that would put them over the 300 credit point mark?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on September 20, 2012, 03:57:09 am
^ too true


By the way, does anyone know if Science allows students to take extra summer subjects that would put them over the 300 credit point mark?

No, you are only allowed to do a maximum of 300 points (unless you have a good reason which includes a change of study area or poor course advising) it has nothing to do with overloading, that's how much the commonwealth place entitles you to.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on September 20, 2012, 02:10:24 pm
Does anyone know when exam timetables came out in first semester?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 20, 2012, 02:14:02 pm
Does anyone know when exam timetables came out in first semester?

Approximately 4 weeks before exams.

By the way, does anyone know if Science allows students to take extra summer subjects that would put them over the 300 credit point mark?

I don't know if they will let you, but try asking to do a Community Access Program, which lets you study subjects, both accessed and non-assessed, outside your degree.

If they let you, only downside is that you will have to pay full fee for it since it is not under HECs.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on September 20, 2012, 02:34:25 pm
Are exam schedule staggered, as in, a specific faculty gets priority of first week, or first year subjects get priority? Because of lot of 1st year mates (such as Commerce), finished in the first four days.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on September 20, 2012, 03:08:31 pm
^ noticed this too. Seems to be the mainstream subjects/ commerce subjects... like first year chemistry/ bio
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on September 20, 2012, 03:42:10 pm
I think the general idea is to have the bigger subjects first, so there is more time to mark them.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jasrulz63 on September 20, 2012, 04:31:43 pm
Does anyone know when exam timetables came out in first semester?

Monday 8 October

http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/assessment_and_results
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Belgarion on September 20, 2012, 04:55:54 pm
Currently in Year 12, hopefully doing Biomed/ Sci at melb uni next year and just wondering what the typical structure is. I know there are exams but in class do you do things like tests what the homework load like, etc.

Thanks
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on September 20, 2012, 05:00:56 pm
Currently in Year 12, hopefully doing Biomed/ Sci at melb uni next year and just wondering what the typical structure is. I know there are exams but in class do you do things like tests what the homework load like, etc.

Thanks

Depends on the subject, but most science/biomed subjects have a heavy exam weighting (~75%) and then the next big thing is prac work, if the subject has it (often ~20-25%). The rest usually consists of weekly assignments or mid-semester tests.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on September 20, 2012, 08:37:30 pm
I think the general idea is to have the bigger subjects first, so there is more time to mark them.

That, and also enrolment numbers as well.  You'll also find some subjects with small enrolments will have exams quite early as well.    If they can fit the whole cohort somewhere on a particular day after the big enrolments, they'll slot the small enrolments in as well.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on September 28, 2012, 12:42:11 am
Does "re-enrolling" for next year need to be done through a course advisor or just through the portal? :/ I'm a bit confused because there seems to be a real push for Arts students to book a course advice appointment to discuss course plans for next year and to avoid "enrolment penalties" (what?!?! :S) - still a bit of a noob here haha :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lilaznkev1n on September 28, 2012, 08:36:13 pm
Does anyone know when exam timetables came out in first semester?

Monday 8 October

http://studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/assessment_and_results
If you go to portal now, and under the assessments tab in the admin tab you can look at your timetable. However, some subjects may not be up there yet. Also you don't get your seat number yet. I have my dates for all 4 of my subjects.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 01, 2012, 05:07:50 pm
Bio MST results are up incase anyone doesn't know (bachelor of science)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 01, 2012, 06:22:56 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 01, 2012, 06:25:19 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise

No idea, I don't remember half of it haha.
Have you started exam study?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 01, 2012, 06:42:58 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise

No idea, I don't remember half of it haha.
Have you started exam study?

haha ofc not! I always tend to cram for exams..

When are you planning to start revisions?? I really want to try to get some revision early this time .Hopefully i can start same time as you.

We should start another bio exam thread like last semester :P that was helpful :D

Why are the MST results in decimals points?? Is 10 the maximum?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 01, 2012, 07:42:00 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise

No idea, I don't remember half of it haha.
Have you started exam study?

haha ofc not! I always tend to cram for exams..

When are you planning to start revisions?? I really want to try to get some revision early this time .Hopefully i can start same time as you.

We should start another bio exam thread like last semester :P that was helpful :D

Why are the MST results in decimals points?? Is 10 the maximum?

Lol I started today, up to lecture 3. Yeah we will! (but this is because of my horrible exam timetable, have to start early).


Yeah I know I thought it was out of 23 or something.. I got 7.9 as if 0.01 off a h1!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 01, 2012, 08:15:58 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise

No idea, I don't remember half of it haha.
Have you started exam study?

haha ofc not! I always tend to cram for exams..

When are you planning to start revisions?? I really want to try to get some revision early this time .Hopefully i can start same time as you.

We should start another bio exam thread like last semester :P that was helpful :D

Why are the MST results in decimals points?? Is 10 the maximum?

Lol I started today, up to lecture 3. Yeah we will! (but this is because of my horrible exam timetable, have to start early).


Yeah I know I thought it was out of 23 or something.. I got 7.9 as if 0.01 off a h1!!


lol i swear we always get similar marks!

i got 8 :P

So when you revise, do you just go over the lecture slides and jot down key points/notes from it??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on October 01, 2012, 08:44:02 pm
I dunno, I just always feel inclined and interested to do Chem revision throughout. I know half of Organic like the back of my hand, the other half not so much. I understand most of kinetics. And now I'm going to plan to keep up with all of the redox stuff so that it doesn't get ahead of me.

I don't know anything past lecture 11 of Bio, but there were only maybe 5 or so of Dawn's lectures and then thankfully Rick's lectures, which I mostly seemed to understand.

So I'm not going to touch them for now and I'll just get back to them later and cram, cram, cram Bio. It payed off beautifully last semester.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 01, 2012, 08:44:55 pm
This is depressing, how many useless and long words does our bio lecturer expect us to memorise!!

Farr about 50 weird and funny sounding words were used today.. It's harder cuz they are not like normal words that are easier to memorise

No idea, I don't remember half of it haha.
Have you started exam study?

haha ofc not! I always tend to cram for exams..

When are you planning to start revisions?? I really want to try to get some revision early this time .Hopefully i can start same time as you.

We should start another bio exam thread like last semester :P that was helpful :D

Why are the MST results in decimals points?? Is 10 the maximum?

Lol I started today, up to lecture 3. Yeah we will! (but this is because of my horrible exam timetable, have to start early).


Yeah I know I thought it was out of 23 or something.. I got 7.9 as if 0.01 off a h1!!


lol i swear we always get similar marks!

i got 8 :P

So when you revise, do you just go over the lecture slides and jot down key points/notes from it??

eugh, it's complete bs. I looked over every single lecture and memorised each. I can honestly say that I couldn't have improved on anything.

I simplify lecture notes and memorise them, but sometimes you can't simplify them much!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 01, 2012, 08:46:28 pm
I dunno, I just always feel inclined and interested to do Chem revision throughout. I know half of Organic like the back of my hand, the other half not so much. I understand most of kinetics. And now I'm going to plan to keep up with all of the redox stuff so that it doesn't get ahead of me.

I don't know anything past lecture 11 of Bio, but there were only maybe 5 or so of Dawn's lectures and then thankfully Rick's lectures, which I mostly seemed to understand.

So I'm not going to touch them for now and I'll just get back to them later and cram, cram, cram Bio. It payed off beautifully last semester.

I ♥ kinetics, revising that first.

Rick's lectures were just memory work, genetics is applications. You should probably do the practice problems if you haven't done those?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 02, 2012, 09:48:04 am
does UoM have anything to do with exercise science ?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 02, 2012, 09:53:34 am
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\

Mentioning a few examples and then saying the rest is in the appendix for more info might be an option. This has honestly been one of the hardest assignments I have done in my life. Nonetheless it was a pretty good one!

Good luck "guys" with it (hehe).

I actually enjoyed this assignment, really interesting picking up all these things in natural conversation. Hate referencing though! Ended up getting like 10 which makes it even harder.

Just in case anyone was wondering the results are out for Intercultural Communication Assignment 1.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 02, 2012, 01:41:43 pm
@claireb yeah, so behind in lectures and stuff though- really need to catch up. How are you finding the assignment?

@yearningforsimplicity an example might be:

a) How are you goin' robbie?
b) Not bad jim

Context: A (age: ?, gender:?) greets his nextdoor neighbour, B, (age? gender?) on a sunday morning.

Make sure to number the examples and list the contexts.

Ohh Thanks for that! :) I'm a bit confused though because my tutor was saying we had to put like the background info about the participants in the 'method' section as well? :-\

Mentioning a few examples and then saying the rest is in the appendix for more info might be an option. This has honestly been one of the hardest assignments I have done in my life. Nonetheless it was a pretty good one!

Good luck "guys" with it (hehe).

I actually enjoyed this assignment, really interesting picking up all these things in natural conversation. Hate referencing though! Ended up getting like 10 which makes it even harder.

Just in case anyone was wondering the results are out for Intercultural Communication Assignment 1.

how'd you go?

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 02, 2012, 03:58:41 pm
How do you go about memorising an entire lecture slide document? D: I've never really had to commit mass amounts of information to memory since a lot math/sci involves really understanding the concept but with comm you need to know a lot of definitions to get to the concept, well that's what i've found.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on October 02, 2012, 04:41:47 pm
does UoM have anything to do with exercise science ?

There is one researcher (whose name I've forgotten) who is involved, but the research expertise is fairly limited I think. I asked someone about this just a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 02, 2012, 05:23:14 pm
How do you go about memorising an entire lecture slide document? D: I've never really had to commit mass amounts of information to memory since a lot math/sci involves really understanding the concept but with comm you need to know a lot of definitions to get to the concept, well that's what i've found.

As in a single lecture?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 02, 2012, 07:40:55 pm
How do you go about memorising an entire lecture slide document? D: I've never really had to commit mass amounts of information to memory since a lot math/sci involves really understanding the concept but with comm you need to know a lot of definitions to get to the concept, well that's what i've found.
As in a single lecture?
Yeah a single lecture and even the collection of lecture slides for the semester! I don't know how you guys do it... I'm trying to summarise my own notes from lecture slides now, but I find I just copy it out :/ haha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 02, 2012, 07:43:06 pm
^

Yeah I find I rewrite my notes a lot until it's in the simplest form possible, memorising word for word doesn't work for me.

Even drawing stupid diagrams helps me remember stuff, mnemonics, and overall just trying to make it *sound* interesting.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 02, 2012, 08:07:03 pm
does UoM have anything to do with exercise science ?

There is one researcher (whose name I've forgotten) who is involved, but the research expertise is fairly limited I think. I asked someone about this just a few weeks ago.

what would you do to study this ??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VCEstudentguy on October 02, 2012, 08:41:34 pm
I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lexitu on October 02, 2012, 09:02:22 pm
does UoM have anything to do with exercise science ?

There is one researcher (whose name I've forgotten) who is involved, but the research expertise is fairly limited I think. I asked someone about this just a few weeks ago.

what would you do to study this ??

Probably Science and a major like Physiology... Then you would have to do research post grad. But I don't know too much more than that.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 02, 2012, 09:03:10 pm
I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?
O-week is overrated, i hated it lol
Maintaining a 65+ shouldn't be overly difficult, but I've only done 1st year subjects so far. If you study for exams and keep up to date with what you learn in lectures you should be fine, it's not as hard as year 12 if you put the effort in.


^

Yeah I find I rewrite my notes a lot until it's in the simplest form possible, memorising word for word doesn't work for me.

Even drawing stupid diagrams helps me remember stuff, mnemonics, and overall just trying to make it *sound* interesting.
I don't really try any other ways of memorsing things apart from reading it in my mind or rewriting since they look kind of lame... I know.. hahaha I might have give it a go :P take a step out of my comfort zone...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 02, 2012, 09:07:53 pm
I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 02, 2012, 09:09:38 pm
how'd you go?

Better than I thought but not as good as I would have liked considering I need as much leeway as possible for the next assignment. But my aim was not to fail and I guess that was met (lol). Were you happy?

I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?

You could do Commerce/Engineering at Monash if you wanted to infuse them.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 02, 2012, 09:09:56 pm
Just wondering what people think of the physiology major??
and what jobs this can lead into ??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 02, 2012, 09:20:23 pm
how'd you go?

Better than I thought but not as good as I would have liked considering I need as much leeway as possible for the next assignment. But my aim was not to fail and I guess that was met (lol). Were you happy?

I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?

You could do Commerce/Engineering at Monash if you wanted to infuse them.

Yea i would recommend a double degree if your passion is in engineering. Otherwise you would have to plough through tedious and boring commerce subjects for 3 years :P

Just wondering what people think of the physiology major??
and what jobs this can lead into ??

You can do a masters in physiotherapy and become a physiotherapist.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VCEstudentguy on October 02, 2012, 09:21:01 pm
I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?

So are you trying to say I should do Science instead? I want to do it with Commerce because I thought it would be the equivalent of doing like a double degree Commerce/Engineering at Monash, is this right?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VCEstudentguy on October 02, 2012, 09:24:45 pm
Don't the breadth subjects allow you to choose Engineering topics simultaneously with Commerce topics or am I completely deluded?

I have a personal preference of Melbourne, but I'd still be pretty happy to go to Monash.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 02, 2012, 09:30:06 pm
Yeah the Comm/M.Eng is the same as B.Comm/B.Eng at Monash, just a name difference but in Australia it doesn't really make you more employable than the Monash graduate, but I believe the Melbourne pathway is more favourable overseas - not 100% sure tho.

If you do Comm at Melb and want to do Eng then you will do Eng as breadth, yes. It's still probably 60-40, comm-sci/eng units but it depends on the eng specialty I think. Have a look at some of the course structures on the melb uni site, it will give you an idea.




Also, daaaayyyuuuuuummmmmmmmmmm!!! <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :') That feeling when you finish an assignment!!! Yeeeooowwww eat a fat one Macro! :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 02, 2012, 09:31:33 pm
Don't the breadth subjects allow you to choose Engineering topics simultaneously with Commerce topics or am I completely deluded?

I have a personal preference of Melbourne, but I'd still be pretty happy to go to Monash.

I guess it is like a double degree; Oh yea your breadth would be Engineering subjects. You would be doing engineering systems design 1/2 in the first year, not sure about second year though.

If you don't mind commerce then by all means go ahead. Double degree spreads out the commerce degree over a longer period so it's easier to handle it if you don't really enjoy commerce.


Also, daaaayyyuuuuuummmmmmmmmmm!!! <3 <3 <3 :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :') That feeling when you finish an assignment!!! Yeeeooowwww eat a fat one Macro! :P

haha i'm doing the second assignment for microeconomics at the moment. Finished the case study but stuck a little bit in part A.

Any pointers?? Or where i could find more information about LR/SR effects and factors in the textbook?

Cheers
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VCEstudentguy on October 02, 2012, 09:38:06 pm
Awesome, thanks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 02, 2012, 09:40:40 pm
how'd you go?

Better than I thought but not as good as I would have liked considering I need as much leeway as possible for the next assignment. But my aim was not to fail and I guess that was met (lol). Were you happy?

I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?

You could do Commerce/Engineering at Monash if you wanted to infuse them.

Ideally would have liked a H1 but I don't know, I guess I need to look at the feedback..

I've come to the conclusion that I will not be choosing an arts breadth anymore.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 02, 2012, 09:52:02 pm
how'd you go?

Better than I thought but not as good as I would have liked considering I need as much leeway as possible for the next assignment. But my aim was not to fail and I guess that was met (lol). Were you happy?

I'm thinking of maybe putting my first preference down as Bachelor of Commerce which will lead to a Masters in X Engineering, I hear that you need to maintain a 65+ score to get into the Masters...is this difficult? Can someone compare this to attaining certain scores in VCE? Also, O-week, will it affect me massively if I miss it?

Why a commerce degree when you want to do engineering?

You could do Commerce/Engineering at Monash if you wanted to infuse them.

Yea i would recommend a double degree if your passion is in engineering. Otherwise you would have to plough through tedious and boring commerce subjects for 3 years :P

Just wondering what people think of the physiology major??
and what jobs this can lead into ??

You can do a masters in physiotherapy and become a physiotherapist.


Is this the only thing???
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 02, 2012, 11:16:29 pm
haha i'm doing the second assignment for microeconomics at the moment. Finished the case study but stuck a little bit in part A.

Any pointers?? Or where i could find more information about LR/SR effects and factors in the textbook?

Cheers
What are the LR/SR effects you're talking about? And what's the assignment about? I can't remember D: haha also I never bought/used the textbook for micro. But it's essential for macro since you pretty much get 0 notes, only what you copy in the lectures - most of which are graphs :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 03, 2012, 06:57:33 am
Is this the only thing???

1. Dr of Medicine
2. Dr of Physio
3. Dr of Dental
4. Honours in Physiology--->
5. PhD in Physiology---->
6. Research in physiology

And a multitude of other 'jobs' you can get with a physiology major, some of which have absolutely nothing to do with the health sciences. That's a very broad question really...
If you just want a Bachelor's degree don't do a Physiology major.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: thushan on October 03, 2012, 08:56:50 am
Dr of Optometry?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: paulsterio on October 03, 2012, 09:28:54 am
And a multitude of other 'jobs' you can get with a physiology major, some of which have absolutely nothing to do with the health sciences. That's a very broad question really...

This is a really important point, many students from VCE don't really understand the different between Health Sciences (or Human Sciences) and Biomedical Sciences.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on October 04, 2012, 08:38:15 am
http://www.theage.com.au/national/tertiary-education/melbourne-uni-cements-place-as-nations-best-20121003-26zsx.html


That should end the Poonash vs UoM debate! ;D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 04, 2012, 09:35:57 am


That should end the Poonash vs UoM debate! ;D

to be continued...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: thushan on October 04, 2012, 10:17:33 am
http://www.theage.com.au/national/tertiary-education/melbourne-uni-cements-place-as-nations-best-20121003-26zsx.html


That should end the Poonash vs UoM debate! ;D

And Melbourne pulls off their 'rank' card. :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 04, 2012, 12:11:10 pm
So good we got to be a part of the information leak!  And so did Penn!  DOUBLE THE INSECURITY, ALL OF THE TIME.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 04, 2012, 07:33:51 pm
Awww Monash is finally ranked under 100, they get to play with the big boys now (they don't)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: thushan on October 04, 2012, 08:08:15 pm
After only 50 odd years. :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 04, 2012, 08:46:59 pm
And a multitude of other 'jobs' you can get with a physiology major, some of which have absolutely nothing to do with the health sciences. That's a very broad question really...

This is a really important point, many students from VCE don't really understand the different between Health Sciences (or Human Sciences) and Biomedical Sciences.

what is the difference ??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on October 04, 2012, 09:13:01 pm
After only 50 odd years. :P

I have hope for you guys, I reckon you can make it to top 50 by 2050 <3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on October 04, 2012, 09:16:42 pm
And a multitude of other 'jobs' you can get with a physiology major, some of which have absolutely nothing to do with the health sciences. That's a very broad question really...

This is a really important point, many students from VCE don't really understand the different between Health Sciences (or Human Sciences) and Biomedical Sciences.

what is the difference ??

Biomedicical science is anything to do with biology and medicine.
Health Sciences are those which particularly deal with only one species in great depth; that is, Humans, as this is undoubtedly a very important part of general Biomedical Science.

Studying Animal Physiology will give you broad, sweeping views of Animals as a whole given that it's more of a biomedical science subject. Studying Human Physiology will give you much more depth than the physiology that you would study in AP, but it won't be nearly as diverse, given that you generally need to know more about humans specific functions rather than the finnicky details of snail respiratory systems, for example.

And what a terrible example it was, but you catch my drift ;)

Offtopic: I fucking love not having 2 of my normally 3 weekly pracs on the first week back. But I have so much bloody work to do and all I do is surf AN.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on October 15, 2012, 09:58:13 pm
Anyone know of anyone who has successfully gone on exchange while trying to major in chemistry...? D= It's proving a massive pain ahaha
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 16, 2012, 09:28:32 am
Exchanging in any of the Sciences is hard...don't take subjects pertaining to your major, just take electives.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on October 16, 2012, 11:51:22 am
Anyone know of anyone who has successfully gone on exchange while trying to major in chemistry...? D= It's proving a massive pain ahaha

I don't know of anyone but it's definitely possible. I'm scared though - if I'm competing against the likes of you in getting to my uni of choice in wanting to also do a Chem major...

Places are limited, ya know?

You basically just have to rule out all of Europe because they teacher undergrad in native languages for Chemistry and many other sciences. Chile, South America, Europe, the UK, and other primarily English speaking countries are your options.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 17, 2012, 11:54:49 am
Seriously, I repeat, don't try and take shit from your major. I had the opportunity and just didn't because it makes everything too murky.  Just take electives!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on October 17, 2012, 06:24:49 pm
Seriously, I repeat, don't try and take shit from your major. I had the opportunity and just didn't because it makes everything too murky.  Just take electives!

It doesn't really work like that for the majority of Science majors... Because there's such a set sequence for most of them, especially chemistry, and the subjects are only offered in one semester each year, to not do those subjects while on exchange necessarily sets you back an entire year...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 18, 2012, 05:43:47 am
Seriously, I repeat, don't try and take shit from your major. I had the opportunity and just didn't because it makes everything too murky.  Just take electives!

It doesn't really work like that for the majority of Science majors... Because there's such a set sequence for most of them, especially chemistry, and the subjects are only offered in one semester each year, to not do those subjects while on exchange necessarily sets you back an entire year...

Not always, I'm taking subjects from second year in the first semester of 2013 to make up for what I missed.  You are right though - chemistry has more of a set sequence than many other majors.  But for the Biological Science majors, the sequencing isn't as strict because most subjects are offered in both semesters or can be taken as corequisites...so for the 'majority' of Science majors, that's not the case.

Science is notoriously difficult to exchange in for anybody. It takes a lot of preparation to ensure your course structure allows you to go overseas but there comes a point where you have to choose what is most important to you.  And by that I mean, whether it's more important to complete your major or go on exchange.  You can try and find equivalents to your prereqs but even if you do find them, there's no guarantee you will be able to take them.  If you're trying to go to the US I would direct your attention to the massive red warning at the top of the list of partner institutions, which tells you that even if you find a subject it doesn't mean you will be able to take it.  Most universities give their home students preference, and all the classes will have set quotas.  Even if you're going somewhere in the UK or another country, the same thing is bound to happen - two friends of mine attending Unis in Britain got to take none of the subjects on their study planning sheet.  They had to request further subjects for approval via email once they had already arrived in the UK.  Luckily they did Arts so the hassle wasn't too great.  I'm even luckier in that every subject I chose to do, I was accepted into.  But the same cannot be said for everyone, and I'd be willing to bet for most other institutions aside from Penn who actually do give exchange students the same level of preference as their local students.

I might be telling you what you already know but I'm just advising you - if you do happen to find somewhere with a subject deemed equivalent by the Chemistry approval advisor then make sure you get a guarantee from your exchange institution that you will be permitted to enrol in that subject.  The hunt isn't over as soon as you come across a subject that fits the description of what is required at home, unfortunately.  If they can't guarantee you'll be let in, then I would advise against going there if it is absolutely necessary for you to take a prerequisite overseas or you will get set back a year as you said.  And you might not know it's going to happen until you've already arrived on your new campus.

Your other options are to:
a) request the home institution to take a prereq as a coreq
b) take the prereq a year early with permission to take a first year subject as a coreq...which I'm assuming you haven't done so that's probably out of the question.

I see what you're saying, and I wish you luck!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on October 20, 2012, 06:00:12 pm
Ahhh no, thank you very much, that was very helpful =)

It really all depends on whether I decide I do want to major in chemistry or not... There's the reasonable possibility of me opting to dedicate the rest of my degree entirely to the life sciences from next year onwards anyway (majors in biochemistry/molecular biology or MIIM), and if I do that then my exchange becomes an absolute breeze to organize... We shall just have to see.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 20, 2012, 08:02:41 pm
Intercultural communication students, how are we going with the essay??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 20, 2012, 09:26:18 pm
Intercultural communication students, how are we going with the essay??

Up to the findings, I am unsure if I am doing the right thing for any section to be honest. But yes, I will try my best nevertheless to try to guess and hopefully pass the test.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 20, 2012, 09:54:07 pm
Intercultural communication students, how are we going with the essay??

Up to the findings, I am unsure if I am doing the right thing for any section to be honest. But yes, I will try my best nevertheless to try to guess and hopefully pass the test.

Same finished my intro and method tonight, just got to read through it tomorrow and hopefully i'll do half of the data analysis etc. then.

The intro was pretty hard to write because it was 400 words this time, not 200 like last time :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 20, 2012, 10:13:22 pm
Intercultural communication students, how are we going with the essay??

Up to the findings, I am unsure if I am doing the right thing for any section to be honest. But yes, I will try my best nevertheless to try to guess and hopefully pass the test.

Same finished my intro and method tonight, just got to read through it tomorrow and hopefully i'll do half of the data analysis etc. then.

The intro was pretty hard to write because it was 400 words this time, not 200 like last time :S


Yeah it's interesting how the introduction is longer than the discussion. We need to put the summary there too of our interview in the introduction of I am not mistaken?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 20, 2012, 10:52:02 pm
Intercultural communication students, how are we going with the essay??

Up to the findings, I am unsure if I am doing the right thing for any section to be honest. But yes, I will try my best nevertheless to try to guess and hopefully pass the test.

Same finished my intro and method tonight, just got to read through it tomorrow and hopefully i'll do half of the data analysis etc. then.

The intro was pretty hard to write because it was 400 words this time, not 200 like last time :S


Yeah it's interesting how the introduction is longer than the discussion. We need to put the summary there too of our interview in the introduction of I am not mistaken?

Oh yeah it says, "briefly summarise your key findings"

I'll need to fix up my intro a little in that case.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on October 20, 2012, 11:10:03 pm
Oooh ICC people, help me out pleasee! :)

Do we HAVE to use APA style referencing for assignment 2? I used MLA for Assignment 1 and didn't get told off and I am soo used to mla now so I cbs learning a new style :-\

Also, a bit of a noob Q but we don't have to provide the whole interview (Q's with responses) in the appendix right? It's just the Interview Q's (without responses) + consent statement that we have to include there, I'm guessing?? Thanks in advance!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 20, 2012, 11:29:07 pm
1. If you didn't get told off maybe they accept it, but if you have time I would honestly try to use APA.
2. No, technically you don't need to provide much at all. Just ensure you get the main parts in. If you wanted to you don't even have to elaborate on anything at all in the appendix (it's not marked). Only the questions have to be put there.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 21, 2012, 01:12:49 pm
Oooh ICC people, help me out pleasee! :)

Do we HAVE to use APA style referencing for assignment 2? I used MLA for Assignment 1 and didn't get told off and I am soo used to mla now so I cbs learning a new style :-\

Also, a bit of a noob Q but we don't have to provide the whole interview (Q's with responses) in the appendix right? It's just the Interview Q's (without responses) + consent statement that we have to include there, I'm guessing?? Thanks in advance!!

* Up to you I guess but it's probably good to start writing with the apa style since that one is most commonly used for uni assignments
* Just the interview questions without responses, i might include my interview responses so that I can refer back to them if I need too
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on October 21, 2012, 02:23:42 pm
Yeah it's interesting how the introduction is longer than the discussion. We need to put the summary there too of our interview in the introduction of I am not mistaken?

Oh yeah it says, "briefly summarise your key findings"

I'll need to fix up my intro a little in that case.

How would I summarise the key findings though? Does this mean if I wanted undertook an identity approach, I summarise how the identity of the person was represented in their words and has changed? Or am is this on the wrong track? Open to anyone.

Oooh ICC people, help me out pleasee! :)

Do we HAVE to use APA style referencing for assignment 2? I used MLA for Assignment 1 and didn't get told off and I am soo used to mla now so I cbs learning a new style :-\

Also, a bit of a noob Q but we don't have to provide the whole interview (Q's with responses) in the appendix right? It's just the Interview Q's (without responses) + consent statement that we have to include there, I'm guessing?? Thanks in advance!!

* Up to you I guess but it's probably good to start writing with the apa style since that one is most commonly used for uni assignments
* Just the interview questions without responses, i might include my interview responses so that I can refer back to them if I need too

Note that the reader will probably not refer to your appendix when you say refer to appendix lol.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on October 21, 2012, 04:06:32 pm
Yeah it's interesting how the introduction is longer than the discussion. We need to put the summary there too of our interview in the introduction of I am not mistaken?

Oh yeah it says, "briefly summarise your key findings"

I'll need to fix up my intro a little in that case.

How would I summarise the key findings though? Does this mean if I wanted undertook an identity approach, I summarise how the identity of the person was represented in their words and has changed? Or am is this on the wrong track? Open to anyone.

Oooh ICC people, help me out pleasee! :)

Do we HAVE to use APA style referencing for assignment 2? I used MLA for Assignment 1 and didn't get told off and I am soo used to mla now so I cbs learning a new style :-\

Also, a bit of a noob Q but we don't have to provide the whole interview (Q's with responses) in the appendix right? It's just the Interview Q's (without responses) + consent statement that we have to include there, I'm guessing?? Thanks in advance!!

* Up to you I guess but it's probably good to start writing with the apa style since that one is most commonly used for uni assignments
* Just the interview questions without responses, i might include my interview responses so that I can refer back to them if I need too

Note that the reader will probably not refer to your appendix when you say refer to appendix lol.

Yeah but I lost marks last time not referring to examples
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on October 21, 2012, 09:16:16 pm
For ICC Assignment 2, in the "intro/lit review", what do they mean by "mention some earlier studies" - do we just like talk about previous or earlier views on Narrative Inquiry GENERALLY (like what it is, how it helps us to gauge language, identity and culture) or do we have to talk about like a specific study where x person was interviewed bla bla - and if it is the latter, then do we have to link that study's findings with our own study? :-\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: 86 on October 22, 2012, 06:25:26 pm
Does anyone have any past exam papers + solutions for ESD2?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: catwoman101 on October 22, 2012, 06:45:01 pm
hi guys i tried to find this on the website but does UoM have Occupational therapy??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on October 24, 2012, 11:32:35 am
Has anyone considered doing a unit over summer?
I've looked at a few breadth units that they offer during Jan/Feb and they go for like 1-2 weeks but its pretty much 2-3 hours of lectures everyday with a tutorial everyday. Also some are all assignment based assessments something like: 'One 1200 word observation report 30%, two short written assignments (totalling 30%), all to be submitted during the teaching period and one 1600 word essay 40% (due 3 weeks after the conclusion of the teaching period)' With a unit like this do you essentially go to the lectures and tutorial for the day and then have like a night or a two to complete the assignments before handing them in? It seems very very very intense, nonetheless doable!
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Post by: Starlight on October 24, 2012, 05:05:03 pm
Who's like me and has had assignments and is planning on cramming in swotvac?
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Post by: claireb on October 24, 2012, 05:47:42 pm
Has anyone considered doing a unit over summer?
I've looked at a few breadth units that they offer during Jan/Feb and they go for like 1-2 weeks but its pretty much 2-3 hours of lectures everyday with a tutorial everyday. Also some are all assignment based assessments something like: 'One 1200 word observation report 30%, two short written assignments (totalling 30%), all to be submitted during the teaching period and one 1600 word essay 40% (due 3 weeks after the conclusion of the teaching period)' With a unit like this do you essentially go to the lectures and tutorial for the day and then have like a night or a two to complete the assignments before handing them in? It seems very very very intense, nonetheless doable!
I'm considering this also. Can anyone who's done one of these subjects comment on what it's like? Is it really hard to keep up seeing there are only two weeks? I'm thinking of Astronomy in World History specifically.
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Post by: Turtle on October 24, 2012, 06:57:12 pm
Can anyone help me with these chem questions. I would appreciate it a lot!!

http://app.lms.unimelb.edu.au/bbcswebdav/pid-3381350-dt-content-rid-2744348_2/courses/610102/Previous%20exams/CHEM10004_2010.pdf

Questions 4 and 5

Can you tell me how you got the answers if thats okay :)

Thanks!!
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Post by: Greatness on October 24, 2012, 07:06:16 pm
Has anyone considered doing a unit over summer?
I've looked at a few breadth units that they offer during Jan/Feb and they go for like 1-2 weeks but its pretty much 2-3 hours of lectures everyday with a tutorial everyday. Also some are all assignment based assessments something like: 'One 1200 word observation report 30%, two short written assignments (totalling 30%), all to be submitted during the teaching period and one 1600 word essay 40% (due 3 weeks after the conclusion of the teaching period)' With a unit like this do you essentially go to the lectures and tutorial for the day and then have like a night or a two to complete the assignments before handing them in? It seems very very very intense, nonetheless doable!
I'm considering this also. Can anyone who's done one of these subjects comment on what it's like? Is it really hard to keep up seeing there are only two weeks? I'm thinking of Astronomy in World History specifically.
Same here!! :D Although I might do business finance instead, not sure. Maybe both?..
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Post by: Gloamglozer on October 24, 2012, 08:34:58 pm
Has anyone considered doing a unit over summer?
I've looked at a few breadth units that they offer during Jan/Feb and they go for like 1-2 weeks but its pretty much 2-3 hours of lectures everyday with a tutorial everyday. Also some are all assignment based assessments something like: 'One 1200 word observation report 30%, two short written assignments (totalling 30%), all to be submitted during the teaching period and one 1600 word essay 40% (due 3 weeks after the conclusion of the teaching period)' With a unit like this do you essentially go to the lectures and tutorial for the day and then have like a night or a two to complete the assignments before handing them in? It seems very very very intense, nonetheless doable!

Yes.  I've done Finance 1 and Business Finance over 2 consecutive summer semesters.  For me, I was basically at uni for 3 days a week.  There were like 3 hours of lectures per day (2 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon) I learnt the material at 3 times the pace.  The tutorials went for 3 hours, instead of the standard 1 during the semester.

It is intensely taught and I think if you want to do well, you will have to dedicate yourself just like any other semester.  And it will be harder simply because of the distractions, friends at the beach, friends going to the tennis, etc.
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Post by: Greatness on October 24, 2012, 09:38:50 pm
Yeah it sucks to be missing out on summer! :( But if it helps with my studies overall then I'm happy to sacrifice it. Has anyone ever done 2 units over summer? What I'm looking at involves a unit during January and one during February, with the unit in February running for 2 weeks and mainly assignment based. And there is a week overlap between them... Looks like it will be a pretty tough and intense gig!


Euuugghhhh.... I should really begin exam preparation now that all my assessments are finished!..
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Post by: simpak on October 25, 2012, 12:42:49 pm
I'm fairly sure for assignment related subjects they typically have some/the largest assignments due after you finish the intensive.  For instance, when my friend took the third year wine subject over last summer her 2500 word essay was due in the second or third week of semester 1, not during the camp/subject.  But you'd have to email the coordinator to check!

I'm currently pissed off at the study plan. I can only enrol in two subjects (not including quotas) and it's not like I can go down to the student center to try and fix the situation.  Ridiculous.  Why can't the Melbourne enrolment system be as easy as Penn's!
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Post by: simpak on October 25, 2012, 12:43:23 pm
Does anyone know if Principles of Immunology and/or Neurophysiology are recorded, by the way?
Soz for the double post.
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Post by: Slumdawg on October 25, 2012, 03:16:00 pm
Does anyone know if Principles of Immunology and/or Neurophysiology are recorded, by the way?
Soz for the double post.
Yep both of them are recorded! :) (well they have been every other year)
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Post by: Starlight on October 25, 2012, 04:58:57 pm
MBB2 students, how are you approaching the exam?

Are you planning on memorising the questions alone or studying those specific topics that the questions talked about or both?
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Post by: yearningforsimplicity on October 25, 2012, 10:30:30 pm
Okay so I've said that I will be coming back next year in my re-enrolment thingo but my study plan isn't allowing me to add any subjects for 2013 sem 1/sem 2 :-\ Is anyone else having this problem?? :-\
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Post by: Starlight on October 25, 2012, 11:52:56 pm
why's everyone enrolling so early? :S I'm planning on enrolling after exams..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on October 26, 2012, 08:54:32 am
Does anyone know if Principles of Immunology and/or Neurophysiology are recorded, by the way?
Soz for the double post.
Yep both of them are recorded! :) (well they have been every other year)

Thank you <3 I have a three way clash with those and Biochem.
And yet somehow, still a five day a week timetable?
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Post by: simpak on October 26, 2012, 08:55:18 am
why's everyone enrolling so early? :S I'm planning on enrolling after exams..

Because if I don't do it right after I received the email I will forget with all my midterms coming up and then it will be too late!  I'm paranoid I will miss the quota cut-offs.
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Post by: yearningforsimplicity on October 26, 2012, 12:08:26 pm
why's everyone enrolling so early? :S I'm planning on enrolling after exams..

Haha going overseas on Nov 28th and have to pack and sort things out after my last exam so I thought I might try and do it early :) But as usual, I'm having problems! :(
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Post by: Starlight on October 26, 2012, 06:28:09 pm
why's everyone enrolling so early? :S I'm planning on enrolling after exams..

Haha going overseas on Nov 28th and have to pack and sort things out after my last exam so I thought I might try and do it early :) But as usual, I'm having problems! :(

I'm going away around then too :D
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Post by: simpak on October 27, 2012, 05:11:21 pm
Where are you guys off to?
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Post by: Starlight on October 27, 2012, 07:17:05 pm
Where are you guys off to?

USA! :D
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Post by: jinny1 on October 27, 2012, 08:27:19 pm
Goddamn studying for commerce subjects are so much easier than science subjects.

24 lectures and 10-20 pages per lecture for commerce.

36 lectures and 50+ pages per lecture; 2-3 times more learning material per each lecture.

So not fair....
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Post by: Starlight on October 27, 2012, 09:12:22 pm
Goddamn studying for commerce subjects are so much easier than science subjects.

24 lectures and 10-20 pages per lecture for commerce.

36 lectures and 50+ pages per lecture; 2-3 times more learning material per each lecture.

So not fair....

Yep exact same for arts.. why I chose it for my breadth haha

Yeah I agree with you, way more lecture slides for us (but I suppose a lot of them are diagrams though)
 
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Post by: yearningforsimplicity on October 28, 2012, 01:11:24 am
Where are you guys off to?

The usual haha Sri Lanka :P
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Post by: Greatness on October 28, 2012, 09:43:50 am
Goddamn studying for commerce subjects are so much easier than science subjects.

24 lectures and 10-20 pages per lecture for commerce.

36 lectures and 50+ pages per lecture; 2-3 times more learning material per each lecture.

So not fair....
Depends what commerce subject it is :P But yeah generally there's less work to be done with commerce :P
Wow that's a lot to cover in 1 lecture :O Seems pretty intense!

How's everyone's study going??
I'm trying to review everything for every subject before tonight - by writing/typing summary notes, then hopefully get started with the tutorial questions/exam questions tomorrow! :) Although there is soooo much to know! I don't even remember learning half the stuff... hahaha
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Post by: 86 on October 28, 2012, 09:23:08 pm
Who here did Business Law (PBL) in semester 1? Any pointers for the exam? I'm not too confident about it :-\
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Post by: jinny1 on November 01, 2012, 09:02:02 pm
Goddamn studying for commerce subjects are so much easier than science subjects.

24 lectures and 10-20 pages per lecture for commerce.

36 lectures and 50+ pages per lecture; 2-3 times more learning material per each lecture.

So not fair....
Depends what commerce subject it is :P But yeah generally there's less work to be done with commerce :P
Wow that's a lot to cover in 1 lecture :O Seems pretty intense!

How's everyone's study going??
I'm trying to review everything for every subject before tonight - by writing/typing summary notes, then hopefully get started with the tutorial questions/exam questions tomorrow! :) Although there is soooo much to know! I don't even remember learning half the stuff... hahaha

I think the highest was 81 pages. And trust me it wasn't just easy diagrams to skip over; they were like full of descriptive terms :(

I'm only doing microeconomics this year and i actually enjoy revising for that over biology lol.
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Post by: Starlight on November 01, 2012, 10:28:44 pm
Goddamn studying for commerce subjects are so much easier than science subjects.

24 lectures and 10-20 pages per lecture for commerce.

36 lectures and 50+ pages per lecture; 2-3 times more learning material per each lecture.

So not fair....
Depends what commerce subject it is :P But yeah generally there's less work to be done with commerce :P
Wow that's a lot to cover in 1 lecture :O Seems pretty intense!

How's everyone's study going??
I'm trying to review everything for every subject before tonight - by writing/typing summary notes, then hopefully get started with the tutorial questions/exam questions tomorrow! :) Although there is soooo much to know! I don't even remember learning half the stuff... hahaha

I think the highest was 81 pages. And trust me it wasn't just easy diagrams to skip over; they were like full of descriptive terms :(

I'm only doing microeconomics this year and i actually enjoy revising for that over biology lol.

Haha I found one with about that many pages, I think it was the lecture on linkage
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Post by: ItsSKC on November 02, 2012, 12:50:57 am
Does anyone know if Principles of Immunology and/or Neurophysiology are recorded, by the way?
Soz for the double post.
Just my 2 cents, but u should maybe check out the NEUR30002 page on facebook, it was very poorly received by students. By that i mean basically everyone was extremely unhappy with the subject and the way it is taught.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 02, 2012, 09:05:36 pm
How are the people for ICC studying for the exam?
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Post by: yearningforsimplicity on November 02, 2012, 09:35:12 pm
How are the people for ICC studying for the exam?

Just going through lectures (some of which I missed due to tute clashes oops) - from the last lecture though it doesn't seem as though the exam Q's will really cover the itty-gritty details of the lectures though? Do you think there'll be application style Q's (like identifying those transcription symbols or something like that in an extract??) or just general content-based questions?? I'm really hoping it's as straightforward as people are making it out to be! :) :)
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Post by: Starlight on November 02, 2012, 10:08:16 pm
How are the people for ICC studying for the exam?

Barely have. I have like 6 lectures to go through, not even looking at the ones with the guest lecturers. The questions that were given in the last lecture were extremely straightforward though.

TBH I think it's going probably going to be easy, and a lot of it is common sense.

@yearning for simplicity. They might have application questions, you can never know. I'm thinking they might ask us to analyze something as like an evaluation (or all those other things that compose a narrative).
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Post by: acinod on November 02, 2012, 10:12:58 pm
I was thinking of doing PSYC30020 Psychology of Sleep and Emotions for a breadth next year: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2012/PSYC30020

Always wanted to do psychology in VCE but never got the chance so was thinking of doing this subject. Especially when I get to learn the nature of dreams which I have a great fascination for. Understanding facial expressions of emotion like in the TV series Lie To Me is another cool thing :)

What are people's thoughts on this subject?
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Post by: golden on November 05, 2012, 10:37:12 am
How are the people for ICC studying for the exam?

Barely have. I have like 6 lectures to go through, not even looking at the ones with the guest lecturers. The questions that were given in the last lecture were extremely straightforward though.

TBH I think it's going probably going to be easy, and a lot of it is common sense.

@yearning for simplicity. They might have application questions, you can never know. I'm thinking they might ask us to analyze something as like an evaluation (or all those other things that compose a narrative).

Also because the lecturers this year are different from last year (I think) we can expect to see changes from last year.  I am just going through the main ideas. I hope it won't be too bad though and not based too much on the readings.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 05, 2012, 05:59:56 pm
How was the chem 2 exam everyone?

Have no idea how I went.
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Post by: Greatness on November 05, 2012, 06:10:42 pm
Man, I feel so lost for exams :/ still have a lot to study/do although I've gone through a lot of material. I'll be doing study/cramming till the night/morning of the exam as well >> Dammmmit.

Reading time starts at 9:15/2:15 right? lol
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Post by: Starlight on November 05, 2012, 06:34:04 pm
^ Yep that's right for reading time. They call you in at around 9:10/ 2:10 specifically haha.

I memorized 3 lectures today and I have 6 lectures to memorize tomorrow loll
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on November 05, 2012, 07:16:16 pm
Haha memorising lectures ftw! I haven't started preparing for my exams that are on next week. :| Not looking too flash :(
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 05, 2012, 10:47:08 pm
How was the chem 2 exam everyone?

Have no idea how I went.

decently, definitely passed but not going to get the marks needed for a H1 or H2A this sem :\

Which is annoying because I wanted to do honours in chemistry and if I'm already not completely blitzing it, then that sucks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 06, 2012, 04:23:36 am
You might be surprised, I did far better in Chem2 than I did Chem1 and I didn't feel like I had after the exam. I think it's scaled?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on November 06, 2012, 10:08:27 am
Hurdle exams are the woooorst - especially if you're not well prepared :( *cram cram cram*
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Post by: cibicl on November 07, 2012, 11:50:35 am
Hurdle exams are the woooorst - especially if you're not well prepared :( *cram cram cram*
I know right! So much extra stress! Is this accounting? :P
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Post by: yearningforsimplicity on November 07, 2012, 03:15:04 pm
Hey guys!
Just a Q about enrolling to subjects - on my study plan, I chose my psych major and enrolled into the appropriate subjects for next year so I'm happy about that BUT for some reason it's not letting me choose a second major/minor? :( Like I try to choose the second major/minor in the same way as I did for psych but I get an error saying "No set subjects for the criteria specified" or something like that :S :S To make things worse, literally every time for the arts student appointments are booked except the ones on the day I'm going overseas :( Do you guys think it's just a matter of calling 13MELB and getting them to alter my study plan?? :-\
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Post by: Greatness on November 07, 2012, 03:41:47 pm
Hurdle exams are the woooorst - especially if you're not well prepared :( *cram cram cram*
I know right! So much extra stress! Is this accounting? :P
Don't get me started on accounting!... I haven't even looked at it yet :S Trying not to fail my exam for intro actuarial tomorrow! I plan to use 2 days for accounting, maybe a day and a half :/ Hopefully I can just memorise the transactions or whatever is required specific questions. I'll do those practice ones he put up, the hardest parts I reckon will be the construction of cash flow, consolidation and what we did for the management/costing. They take forever to do :( I'm glad I did the tute stuff this semester haha actually remember bits and pieces :P
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Post by: cibicl on November 07, 2012, 06:47:22 pm
Hurdle exams are the woooorst - especially if you're not well prepared :( *cram cram cram*
I know right! So much extra stress! Is this accounting? :P
Don't get me started on accounting!... I haven't even looked at it yet :S Trying not to fail my exam for intro actuarial tomorrow! I plan to use 2 days for accounting, maybe a day and a half :/ Hopefully I can just memorise the transactions or whatever is required specific questions. I'll do those practice ones he put up, the hardest parts I reckon will be the construction of cash flow, consolidation and what we did for the management/costing. They take forever to do :( I'm glad I did the tute stuff this semester haha actually remember bits and pieces :P
Oh wow, actuarial - goodluck! Yeahh I've completely neglected ATA. Been to lectures and tuts, but I haven't really done the questions yet. Printing the stuff now and am panicking like crazy haha! Hopefully the weekend is enough to learn it all! Goodluck! :)
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Post by: banditkeith on November 07, 2012, 10:04:24 pm
LOLOLOLOLOL gonna fail physics tomorrow 8D
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Post by: jinny1 on November 07, 2012, 10:49:57 pm
I have no idea what to major in lol...

How would i go about becoming a pharmacist by majoring in pharmacology?? is there like a master of pharmacology at uom to become a pharmacist?
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Post by: Starlight on November 07, 2012, 11:15:58 pm
I have no idea what to major in lol...


neither..
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Post by: Greatness on November 07, 2012, 11:31:10 pm
Hurdle exams are the woooorst - especially if you're not well prepared :( *cram cram cram*
I know right! So much extra stress! Is this accounting? :P
Don't get me started on accounting!... I haven't even looked at it yet :S Trying not to fail my exam for intro actuarial tomorrow! I plan to use 2 days for accounting, maybe a day and a half :/ Hopefully I can just memorise the transactions or whatever is required specific questions. I'll do those practice ones he put up, the hardest parts I reckon will be the construction of cash flow, consolidation and what we did for the management/costing. They take forever to do :( I'm glad I did the tute stuff this semester haha actually remember bits and pieces :P
Oh wow, actuarial - goodluck! Yeahh I've completely neglected ATA. Been to lectures and tuts, but I haven't really done the questions yet. Printing the stuff now and am panicking like crazy haha! Hopefully the weekend is enough to learn it all! Goodluck! :)
I watched lectures online lol but went to tutes and did the hw so not that far behind :P yeah hopefully it's enough! although i've got linear on monday too :'( 2 exams to cram for dammit.

Best of luck to everyone :)
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 08, 2012, 02:11:35 pm
I have no idea what to major in lol...

How would i go about becoming a pharmacist by majoring in pharmacology?? is there like a master of pharmacology at uom to become a pharmacist?

Nope. If you major in pharmacology, though, you can pretty much work for most major pharmaceutical companies. I think Monash has postgrad studies in pharmaceutical sciences.

LOLOLOLOLOL gonna fail physics tomorrow 8D

Hear hear!
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Post by: Starlight on November 08, 2012, 03:48:36 pm
One exam left. I need to catch up on a semester's worth of sleep.
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Post by: b^3 on November 08, 2012, 03:54:28 pm
One exam left. I need to catch up on a semester's worth of sleep.
I know the feeling... *high fives*       *runs from UoM thread* :P
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Post by: Russ on November 08, 2012, 03:56:07 pm
*runs from UoM thread* :P

ugh monash
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Post by: Greatness on November 08, 2012, 07:39:48 pm
One exam left. I need to catch up on a semester's worth of sleep.
Cannot wait till Wednesday 12:15! Should be great - provided I don't fail my exam :P
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 08, 2012, 07:43:00 pm
What the?

CULS20015: RAVE
Do I essentially get a free H1 for just going to raves and documenting my experience?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on November 08, 2012, 10:37:22 pm
What the?

CULS20015: RAVE
Do I essentially get a free H1 for just going to raves and documenting my experience?

An essay of 1400 words (35%) due mid-semester, a second essay of 1400 words (35%) due in the examiination period, a multimedia exercise (blog/wiki) equivalent to 1200 words (30%) done throughout the semester.

:D
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Post by: simpak on November 09, 2012, 12:18:19 pm
Before they made that a second year subject instead of a third year subject, I was going to take it as a breadth and my friends were going to take it for their major and everyone was super excited. And then they made it a second year subject.
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Post by: Plan-B on November 10, 2012, 10:40:08 pm
Just to double confirm,

''The rules or requirements for breadth study in each of the undergraduate Melbourne degrees are basically the same. The following requirements are common to all:

At least 50 points (four subjects) of your course must contribute to your breadth studies*.
No more than 37.5 points of breadth (three subjects) can be taken at level 1.
You are encouraged to take at least one 37.5 point (three subject) breadth track. (Learn more about Breadth Tracks)
''

I can do three level 1 breadths and one level 2 breadth in a bachelor of commerce to satisfy the breadth requirement?

Thanks
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Post by: simpak on November 11, 2012, 05:52:54 am
Just to double confirm,

''The rules or requirements for breadth study in each of the undergraduate Melbourne degrees are basically the same. The following requirements are common to all:

At least 50 points (four subjects) of your course must contribute to your breadth studies*.
No more than 37.5 points of breadth (three subjects) can be taken at level 1.
You are encouraged to take at least one 37.5 point (three subject) breadth track. (Learn more about Breadth Tracks)
''

I can do three level 1 breadths and one level 2 breadth in a bachelor of commerce to satisfy the breadth requirement?

Thanks

Yes, I've taken three level 1 breadths and am currently doing my last breadth here (Level 3).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on November 14, 2012, 11:44:00 pm
What's the go for going on exchange? I only started looking at it now and it looks like I may have missed out on applying for 2nd semester next year, so 2nd year for me cos of this December deadline thing I keep seeing for applications. Although my grades may be too low... lol
So looks like I might have to wait to do it in 3rd year? Only problem is that I read it's best not to do major/compulsory units on exchange, so that may be a problem in 3rd year? Euggh.
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 15, 2012, 12:25:57 am
It does become a problem, but you can always pay to do subjects when you come back.

I came to the realization that I simply don't earn enough to save up to go on exchange.

You could still go fine in 3rd year.
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Post by: simpak on November 15, 2012, 05:17:27 am
It does become a problem, but you can always pay to do subjects when you come back.

I came to the realization that I simply don't earn enough to save up to go on exchange.

You could still go fine in 3rd year.

...I thought you worked like 30 hours a week? I work ten hours a week at home? You can get loans...and the grant.  I got 8500 from that alone.

What's the go for going on exchange? I only started looking at it now and it looks like I may have missed out on applying for 2nd semester next year, so 2nd year for me cos of this December deadline thing I keep seeing for applications. Although my grades may be too low... lol
So looks like I might have to wait to do it in 3rd year? Only problem is that I read it's best not to do major/compulsory units on exchange, so that may be a problem in 3rd year? Euggh.

The December deadline would prevent you from going?  There's still about a month for you to get your shit together.  It's not too hard to get the minimum amount of subjects approved before the deadline and then just accumulate extras later.  If you do want to go next year: find an institution you really want to go to, get a few subjects from it approved via email (even if you're not 100% on taking them) so that you have a 'full credit load' and you're pretty much done.  You can definitely get someone to write you an academic reference in time if you start one now.

However, there is the small problem of those stupid exchange information sessions that are compulsory now? I'd imagine they have one before the due date...let me check - sure enough, there's on on Wednesday 21st of November you could attend which might be after your exams and also happens to be before the application deadline for UC if you were considering that option.

You only need a 65% average to go on exchange.  If you look at the partner institutions you'll see what cut-offs institutions had last time and how many estimated places they have.  For some institutions they won't even reach that cut off (unfortunately not for places like Kings, Berkeley, Penn etc).

And then I must ask - where (in terms of countries) would you like to go?  The availability of your subjects will vary depending on where you're applying - it's good to investigate whether everyone has equal opportunity to enter into subjects or if local students get preference if you are considering for third year.  It's true that you shouldn't rely on being about to take subjects in your major unless you have a written guarantee for the host institution.  If you do end up looking at third year (and you're still in first) then here are my suggestions to you:
- find out how many subjects you need to take for the major you're considering
- find out how many of those subjects (level 3) you can take without prerequisites from second year
- take some of your level three subjects in second year
- leave your second year electives until you go on exchange

There's nothing that says you have to take Level 3 subjects in your third year - if you could attempt some (not all of course) in second year then this is a way to make sure you don't have to take so many specific subjects when you're overseas.  For instance, I didn't need Biochem for any of my possible majors when I get back but I do need it for the MD applications.  I decided to take Biochem in first semester of next year (third year) and take a third year elective here instead - which is the opposite to what I'm suggesting to you, but it's a way to make sure you can take courses that you need to take at Melbourne at home and still go on exchange.  Just save up your breadths and electives for overseas because they have much more flexibility.

Going on Exchange can be a severe commitment for your degree depending on what you do.  Not so much in Arts, because their degree structure is generally more flexible and their prerequisites more lenient but for Sciences and Commerce things tend to be more strict.  It's a good idea to try and plan your whole degree structure around going on exchange.  If you absolutely have to take prerequisites overseas just investigate your options and narrow down your host institutions based on equivalences.  But if you could go in second year with a month to plan...I'd really recommend it!

Hope I helped!

EDIT: one more thing I realised you should know about third year exchange: if you do decide to do one, make sure you plan it for Semester 1 of your final year and not Semester 2.  The reason for this is that the academic calendars of Australian universities obviously do not align with those for universities in the Northern Hemisphere.  They finish our 'Semester 2' in December, just before Christmas!  And therefore they take forever to send through your final transcript to Melbourne.  And then Melbourne takes forever to convert the scores on that transcript into a 'pass' on your study plan for the units listed for Exchange.  And what that means is that if you do go on exchange in the final semester of your final year you cannot graduate with your cohort in December of your final year.  So, in your case, instead of graduating in December of 2014, you would be looking at graduating in the middle of 2015 (even though you have no more credit points to undertake).  This is especially frustrating if you're looking at postgraduate courses which only have beginning of year entry and not midyear entry, or even honours.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on November 15, 2012, 10:38:56 am
Wow thanks for that mavis! A really good read (y)
I didn't know that we had to worry about applications in first year lol cos I'm doing actuarial stream first year and might continue, and if I do then I won't be able to do the exchange. So I was told not to worry about it and apply during 2nd year cos exchange for actuarial is in 3rd year, but now I'm considering alternative options again which is why I really liked Melbourne cos it gives indecisive people like me time to figure out what I enjoy :P
Tbh I don't really have a university in mind, but I wouldn't mind going to the UK or US. I had a look at some institutions the other night along with the cut offs, but honestly, I don't really know much about the unis or the cities they are situated in haha especially the UK ones. Also I only see cut offs for the US institutions, unless there is another link that shows all of them?
I was thinking if I were to go ahead with this, I could do 2 units in summer and 4 in 1st semester then possibly only do 2 or 3 during 2nd semester 2nd year. Which leaves 4 units each semester during 3rd year. Otherwise, I could do what you suggested and possibly bring forward 1 or 2 3rd year units into 2nd semester 2nd year which would allow me to go on exchange during 3rd year where I could do elective units/breadths - also gives me a couple of semesters to bring up my average :P
That's a good point regarding doing exchange in 1st semester of 3rd year! I'll have to do a bit of research for this today! Thanks for that :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on November 18, 2012, 04:51:33 pm
Anyone know when our results start coming out?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 18, 2012, 05:07:48 pm
Anyone know when our results start coming out?

Probably best to wait for exams to finish first :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: darlok on November 18, 2012, 06:51:19 pm
They should start coming out around the 30th.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 18, 2012, 09:32:00 pm
It does become a problem, but you can always pay to do subjects when you come back.

I came to the realization that I simply don't earn enough to save up to go on exchange.

You could still go fine in 3rd year.

...I thought you worked like 30 hours a week? I work ten hours a week at home? You can get loans...and the grant.  I got 8500 from that alone.

I do, I'm independent though. Rent, bills, food, transport, uni books, it adds up. I only work out of necessity.

Edit: Just to elaborate, I can't save up the recommended $20k to last a year on exchange. I could probably save up close to 8 or 9k over the summer break now if I devoted it all to working and saving, but that's hectic - I'm finally on holidays so I'm enjoying the uni downtime so much with the same amount of work.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on November 18, 2012, 09:33:51 pm
Anyone know when our results start coming out?

Pretty sure I heard that all the results come out by the 6th of December but don't hold me to that
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on November 18, 2012, 09:44:34 pm
Don't the results come out earlier on the Study Plan?? I wanted to view mine before or on the 28th haha, Oh well!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 18, 2012, 09:54:33 pm
Don't the results come out earlier on the Study Plan?? I wanted to view mine before or on the 28th haha, Oh well!

No more than a day earlier. They update the official results page once daily, and if results happen to come on the day after the time when they are updated, they'll appear in the Study Plan first.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on November 19, 2012, 09:55:35 pm
The finalised ones come out by 5pm, 7th of December at the latest
But yeah the unofficial ones could come out a week or so before that
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 20, 2012, 09:48:03 am
Hey, as weird as it sounds I've already got one result - Intercultural Communication. But it's on the actual page itself under 'My Grades' not on the results statement so it might not be as official yet if we consider the possibilities of scaling etc.

Edit: What has just happened... They moved my assignment marks down but the exam mark up. I am confused as to why this was. The exam was just multiple choice - maybe they made a mistake initially marking it or maybe it was scaled?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on November 20, 2012, 03:04:07 pm
Hey, as weird as it sounds I've already got one result - Intercultural Communication. But it's on the actual page itself under 'My Grades' not on the results statement so it might not be as official yet if we consider the possibilities of scaling etc.

Edit: What has just happened... They moved my assignment marks down but the exam mark up. I am confused as to why this was. Are they tampering with the marks? The exam was just multiple choice - maybe they made a mistake initially marking it or maybe it was scaled?

Both assignment marks went down? I had one that suddenly went up. Weird - I'm keeping an eye on it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 20, 2012, 03:06:58 pm
My exam mark went down by 1... Assignment marks stayed the same.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: yearningforsimplicity on November 20, 2012, 03:09:19 pm
My exam mark went down by 1... Assignment marks stayed the same.

Where are the exam marks shown on "My Grades"?? Is it next to the "Total"? :-\
Don't know if my exam mark went down by anything but assignment marks have stayed the same...for now :P

And does scaling affect marks a lot? Or just increase it by like 1-2 marks??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 20, 2012, 03:09:54 pm
My exam mark went down by 1... Assignment marks stayed the same.

Where are the exam marks shown on "My Grades"?? Is it next to the "Total"? :-\

I assume so
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 20, 2012, 04:53:13 pm
Hey, as weird as it sounds I've already got one result - Intercultural Communication. But it's on the actual page itself under 'My Grades' not on the results statement so it might not be as official yet if we consider the possibilities of scaling etc.

Edit: What has just happened... They moved my assignment marks down but the exam mark up. I am confused as to why this was. Are they tampering with the marks? The exam was just multiple choice - maybe they made a mistake initially marking it or maybe it was scaled?

Both assignment marks went down? I had one that suddenly went up. Weird - I'm keeping an eye on it.

Yeah, both...

With the second one, it went down 1.5 marks, that's a lot of marks to suddenly drop. I believe that it was because Hyejeong thought it was worth 1.5 marks more than the final marker.

As I have mentioned though, my exam mark went up, but it wasn't enough to compensate. At least the letter grade hasn't changed.

The subject was a good one though, I'm just happy to have done it. I felt the lecturers and tutors were pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on November 20, 2012, 05:58:10 pm
Didn't feel it was necessary to make a new thread but does anyone here know much about food science, in particular FOOD20003 Food Chemistry, Biology and Nutrition or FOOD20006 Food Microbiology and Safety? I haven't heard much about them and was wondering if they're enjoyable/useful.

From handbook:
Quote
Students are expected to be familiar with word processing, data management and graphical software packages and to be competent in electronic search techniques.

This subject requires attendance at lectures and active participation in practicals and tutorials.

Can anyone comment on the data management/graphical software component? I haven't had a great deal of experience with that. Also wondering about the attendance as it doesn't say anything about attendance in the assessment section yet that comment was under core participation requirements.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 21, 2012, 10:37:07 pm
I'm so confused. I can't enrol in a certain subject, and then it appears on the 2013 timetable.. but not handbook..

makes no sense :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 22, 2012, 09:33:11 am
I'm so confused. I can't enrol in a certain subject, and then it appears on the 2013 timetable.. but not handbook..

makes no sense :S

Maybe just give it some time for them to get it all sorted. If not then probably email them.

By the way, for those who are interested in genetics but are not doing Science/Biomedicine etc. then a new subject 'Genetics in the Media' may interest you. It equips you with the knowledge to be able to develop to grasp on the concepts which are especially discussed... well... in the media! It's a first year breadth subject which as I have already mentioned is a new addition to The University of Melbourne. Here's some more information: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/GENE10001?output=PDF

Can be taken as a breadth in the following courses:
# Bachelor of Arts (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-ARTS)
# Bachelor of Commerce (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-COM)
# Bachelor of Environments (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-ENVS)
# Bachelor of Music (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-MUS)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 22, 2012, 11:25:05 am
I'm so confused. I can't enrol in a certain subject, and then it appears on the 2013 timetable.. but not handbook..

makes no sense :S

Maybe just give it some time for them to get it all sorted. If not then probably email them.

By the way, for those who are interested in genetics but are not doing Science/Biomedicine etc. then a new subject 'Genetics in the Media' may interest you. It equips you with the knowledge to be able to develop to grasp on the concepts which are especially discussed... well... in the media! It's a first year breadth subject which as I have already mentioned is a new addition to The University of Melbourne. Here's some more information: https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/GENE10001?output=PDF

Can be taken as a breadth in the following courses:
# Bachelor of Arts (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-ARTS)
# Bachelor of Commerce (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-COM)
# Bachelor of Environments (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-ENVS)
# Bachelor of Music (https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2013/B-MUS)

Damn!!!!!

That subject would have been perfect!  Not fair!
I need to find a semester 1 breadth or a summer breadth.

But anyway, hi everyone!!!
Hope everyones semester 2 went well. :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 22, 2012, 01:12:27 pm
Do genetics, health, society. If you've already done it, do Global Health/Sustainability.
Both pretty good and easy.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 06:17:46 pm
Genetics and the evolution of life marks are out!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 22, 2012, 06:25:08 pm
Genetics and the evolution of life marks are out!!

Dawn doesn't muck around :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on November 22, 2012, 06:30:32 pm
Genetics and the evolution of life marks are out!!

Dawn doesn't muck around :)

Yeah...  When was the exam?  First week?

But it also depends on administration as well.  I know one of my exams has been marked and second marked accordingly but the marks haven't been entered because of admin.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 06:34:21 pm
Genetics and the evolution of life marks are out!!

Dawn doesn't muck around :)

Yeah...  When was the exam?  First week?

But it also depends on administration as well.  I know one of my exams has been marked and second marked accordingly but the marks haven't been entered because of admin.

Yep first week, on the 6th.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on November 22, 2012, 06:35:22 pm
FUK YES 90 FOR GENETICS AND EVOLUTION!!!!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 06:37:05 pm
FUK YES 90 FOR GENETICS AND EVOLUTION!!!!

LOL!!

Awesome! That cramming paid off!

Mine was -5 yours :P Yayyy
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on November 22, 2012, 06:38:37 pm
FUK YES 90 FOR GENETICS AND EVOLUTION!!!!

LOL!!

Awesome! That cramming paid off!

Mine was -5 yours :P Yayyy

ehehhe thanks :P

you did better than last year as well even though you were worried about it being harder :P

good job :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 06:41:01 pm
FUK YES 90 FOR GENETICS AND EVOLUTION!!!!

LOL!!

Awesome! That cramming paid off!

Mine was -5 yours :P Yayyy

ehehhe thanks :P

you did better than last year as well even though you were worried about it being harder :P

good job :)

I really did guess my way through that exam.. :D
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 22, 2012, 06:48:23 pm
Genetics and the evolution of life marks are out!!

Same with Genes and Environment (BIOL10003).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 22, 2012, 07:05:16 pm
FUK YES 90 FOR GENETICS AND EVOLUTION!!!!

LOL!!

Awesome! That cramming paid off!

Mine was -5 yours :P Yayyy

ehehhe thanks :P

you did better than last year as well even though you were worried about it being harder :P

good job :)

What da fuck, I got 74. Getting my exam checked. I was positive about getting a H1.

I did miss an entire short answer question (allelic frequencies) so I think that I must have acidentally move all of my answers into the wrong boxes. But still, 74. That's pretty shit for me.

Congrats on your awesome marks doods.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 22, 2012, 07:27:51 pm
I really did guess my way through that exam.. :D

Intrinsically your abilities were there; guessing your way through like forty something multiple choice then say 25 other questions (section B and C type which are like one out of 10 or something) which carry other probabilities, and then guessing the section D would be way too statistically unlikely to still result in an 85 overall. Hence what you think you are guessing you probably already know but you're just doubting yourself. Of course there would be questions you already know how to do but it was likely that you somewhat knew the ones you thought you weren't so sure on.

I like to use this comparison sometimes: given 135 multiple choice questions (actually it's fewer than 135 but I thought I'd round it up to the nearest 5) with 4 alternatives the probability of you acing it is lower than the probability that someone were to pick an atom somewhere in the observable universe and having another guess it correctly with one shot (if I my previous calculations were not off, assuming that the number of atoms in the universe is relatively constant because it's not by energy mass conversions and factors relating to decay etc.) (Also going by estimations through Wikipedia (lol) of 10^80).

Oh, and congratulations!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Chromeo33 on November 22, 2012, 07:29:00 pm
Wait guys where did you get your genetics marks from? I thought there was supposed to be a 'results' button on the home page...?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 22, 2012, 07:30:17 pm
Wait guys where did you get your genetics marks from? I thought there was supposed to be a 'results' button on the home page...?

Study plan.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 07:31:14 pm
Wait guys where did you get your genetics marks from? I thought there was supposed to be a 'results' button on the home page...?

Study plan.

On the portal :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: vea on November 22, 2012, 07:32:02 pm
Wait guys where did you get your genetics marks from? I thought there was supposed to be a 'results' button on the home page...?

Go to the study plan and it should be one of the subjects that have been grayed out. You can get all your results earlier this way.
Was a few shy from a H1 this sem but I guess I deserved it :\
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 22, 2012, 07:36:34 pm
Now I remember how annoying I was in first year, getting results so early and what not haha.

Well done guys, you've all done great.
And to the biomeds, you (hopefully) all survived the torture that is physics and stats! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 22, 2012, 07:45:38 pm
Now I remember how annoying I was in first year, getting results so early and what not haha.

Well done guys, you've all done great.
And to the biomeds, you (hopefully) all survived the torture that is physics and stats! :)

These are the two I am really worried about. I really hope I didn't go too badly. These subjects are like this: you go in thinking you're prepared, yet you always get a surprise.

For statistics, they have scaled both the assignment and lab test up for this reason, and I guess we get the buffer of the exam of 20 marks, but even so the lecturer said there can be a possibility of scaling up on top of that buffer if the distribution is too skewed.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 22, 2012, 07:49:19 pm
I really did guess my way through that exam.. :D

Intrinsically your abilities were there; guessing your way through like forty something multiple choice then say 25 other questions (section B and C type which are like one out of 10 or something) which carry other probabilities, and then guessing the section D would be way too statistically unlikely to still result in an 85 overall. Hence what you think you are guessing you probably already know but you're just doubting yourself. Of course there would be questions you already know how to do but it was likely that you somewhat knew the ones you thought you weren't so sure on.

I like to use this comparison sometimes: given 135 multiple choice questions (actually it's fewer than 135 but I thought I'd round it up to the nearest 5) with 4 alternatives the probability of you acing it is lower than the probability that someone were to pick an atom somewhere in the observable universe and having another guess it correctly with one shot (if I my previous calculations were not off, assuming that the number of atoms in the universe is relatively constant because it's not by energy mass conversions and factors relating to decay etc.) (Also going by estimations through Wikipedia (lol) of 10^80).

Oh, and congratulations!

Lol the calculations :P
Thank you :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 23, 2012, 02:26:25 pm
Chemistry 2 results are out also
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 23, 2012, 05:31:21 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on November 23, 2012, 05:34:28 pm
^Holy shit, congrats!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 23, 2012, 06:06:08 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

OMG. I hope they send you a signed letter of congratulations or something AT LEAST.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on November 23, 2012, 07:01:11 pm
Chem 1 results are out - got 95!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 23, 2012, 07:23:18 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

What the heck is wrong with you lol.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 23, 2012, 07:34:35 pm
Hey guys, since I didn't do chemistry 1 (as I did fundamentals and chem 2) I can't enrol in Techniques in Molecular Science to open up the major biochem & molecular biology, do you think they would let me enrol? Also, i'll be away all december when enrolments are due, is this something they can do on the phone or can I contact them by email??
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on November 23, 2012, 07:35:34 pm
I reckon giving the science student centre a call, they should be able to fix it all up for you or direct you to the relevant faculty.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on November 23, 2012, 08:38:54 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

WTF

Chem 1 results are out - got 95!

I'm so bad at chem..

I got 77 :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: thushan on November 23, 2012, 08:45:20 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

What the f**k. Dude, can I please have your brain? !!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on November 23, 2012, 09:02:17 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

What the f**k. Dude, can I please have your brain? !!

He got 99.85 so guess it was expected...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nisha on November 23, 2012, 09:04:02 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

What the f**k. Dude, can I please have your brain? !!
Coming from the guy that got 99.95 and is doing Med. Sure. Thush. Sure.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pi on November 23, 2012, 09:20:00 pm
What the f**k. Dude, can I please have your brain? !!
Coming from the guy that got 99.95 and is doing Med. Sure. Thush. Sure.

LOL, modesty aint working here Thush :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simonhu81292 on November 23, 2012, 10:42:17 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...
LOL! About TIME! Good Effort man!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 24, 2012, 03:22:58 pm
stonecold won the game, you are motivating me to actually keep my 100 av this semester...here's to the hoping.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: QuantumJG on November 24, 2012, 03:46:57 pm
GENE20002 - Genes and Genomes
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 100 Grade: First Class Honours (H1)

fucking lol!
i really need to reconsider my choice of major...

Congratulations Stonecold.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on November 24, 2012, 03:57:42 pm
@Stonecold:

Dame Margaret Blackwood Prize
Category:Undergraduate
Department:Department of Genetics
Conditions:Awarded to the student achieving the highest results in 2nd year Genetics.
Process:Nominated by the Head, Genetics.

Value:$1906.00 approx.Tenure:1 Year

Contact:Genetics, Stephanie Morrison-Duff, Telephone No. 8344 4933Application Dates:0000-00-00 till 0000-00-00Contact Email:[email protected]:
University Regulation
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 26, 2012, 07:46:27 am
1906 is a very specific approximation.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 26, 2012, 11:59:13 am
74 for Genetics (Turns out I completely missed an exam question worth 1.5% which would've made it a H2A) and 79 for Chemistry 2 (so close to a H1).

They've got to be the most painful marks to get - here's hoping I can get them bumped over the threshold when I get my exam checked.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on November 26, 2012, 12:04:26 pm
I had Chem 1 on the 16th and Physics 2 on the 8th. Chem was out last week and physics is still not up. Erhhghghghae
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 26, 2012, 12:09:41 pm
74 for Genetics (Turns out I completely missed an exam question worth 1.5% which would've made it a H2A) and 79 for Chemistry 2 (so close to a H1).

They've got to be the most painful marks to get - here's hoping I can get them bumped over the threshold when I get my exam checked.

For the exam check do you check it or do they do it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 26, 2012, 01:01:00 pm
74 for Genetics (Turns out I completely missed an exam question worth 1.5% which would've made it a H2A) and 79 for Chemistry 2 (so close to a H1).

They've got to be the most painful marks to get - here's hoping I can get them bumped over the threshold when I get my exam checked.

I'm pretty sure you check through it with them.

For the exam check do you check it or do they do it?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ReganM on November 26, 2012, 06:40:31 pm
74 for Genetics (Turns out I completely missed an exam question worth 1.5% which would've made it a H2A) and 79 for Chemistry 2 (so close to a H1).

They've got to be the most painful marks to get - here's hoping I can get them bumped over the threshold when I get my exam checked.

They're pretty painful marks! D: How did you know you missed a question? :O
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 26, 2012, 07:21:39 pm
Cos everyone was talking about it after the exam and I didn't remember the question.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 27, 2012, 09:20:48 am
Why are you getting them checked?  Did you expect you had done much higher or something?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on November 27, 2012, 02:45:56 pm
The end of a very busy year >.<
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 27, 2012, 03:08:20 pm
Email says that ICC marks are now finalised at least for assignment 2, I would also expect that is true for the exam as well however.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 27, 2012, 04:34:11 pm
Email says that ICC marks are now finalised at least for assignment 2, I would also expect that is true for the exam as well however.

Lol it says my total marks on LMS is 27..

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nbhindi on November 27, 2012, 05:03:42 pm
Really want Physics 2: Life Science and stats to come out!!!!
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 27, 2012, 07:34:09 pm
Why are you getting them checked?  Did you expect you had done much higher or something?

Well perhaps. I did email Dawn and explain that I actually knew I had missed a question - and she says they had no doubt spotted it already and detailed that I answered the Q4 in the Q3 box on Section C. They had already auto-corrected my marks and adjusted. However, I still want to go through the exam and just see if there is anywhere that I can - in good academic spirit - scrounge marks to get a 75. The same goes for Chemistry, where I want to see if I can scrape an 80. A H1 and a H2A looks much better than a H2A and a H2B, especially with another H1 in Russian.

That, and there's a good chance that I didn't do well in Physics. So I'm very concerned about that, and need my biol/chem marks to be stronger this sem to maintain a semi-decent average in first year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 28, 2012, 10:47:58 am
Really want Physics 2: Life Science and stats to come out!!!!

Statistics is out.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 28, 2012, 04:57:16 pm
Thank you everyone regarding the genetics score. :)
And Thushan, I will gladly swap brains with you any day mate haha!

Don't think I am eligible for the genetics prize guys because there is a third second year genetics subject which I did not take.
Also, there would be people who did better than me in semester 1 genetics anyway...

Nonetheless, I would highly recommend second year genetics to anyone who found it cruisy in first year.
Second year is all MCQs (not just the exam) so it makes for some pretty easy marks without too much effort or memorising stuff. :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 29, 2012, 06:17:10 pm
Stonecold what is your major now?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: thushan on November 29, 2012, 06:21:39 pm
And Thushan, I will gladly swap brains with you any day mate haha!

Thanks! I'll need it for next year!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 29, 2012, 06:45:03 pm
Could someone tell me the difference between Chemistry fundamentals, 1, 2 and Chemistry for Biomedicine? Thank you!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on November 29, 2012, 06:49:25 pm
Fundamentals -> for those that haven't done VCE chemistry
Chemistry 1+2 -> for science kids
Chemistry for Biomedicine -> for biomedicine only.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on November 29, 2012, 06:51:52 pm
Fundamentals -> for those that haven't done VCE chemistry
Chemistry 1+2 -> for science kids
Chemistry for Biomedicine -> for biomedicine only.

Just to add, Fundamentals of Chemistry progresses on to Chemistry 1 and Chemistry 2. If you do well in Fundy, you can skip straight into Chem 2. God forbid you actually decide to put yourself through that, though - so much of Chem 1 is assessed in Chem 2.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 29, 2012, 07:41:34 pm
Fundamentals -> for those that haven't done VCE chemistry
Chemistry 1+2 -> for science kids
Chemistry for Biomedicine -> for biomedicine only.

What about content wise (sorry for not making my question more clear)?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: mark_alec on November 29, 2012, 07:46:00 pm
If you go to handbook.unimelb.edu.au you can look up each subject, and see the topics that are covered.
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Post by: VivaTequila on November 29, 2012, 08:21:01 pm
Fundamentals -> for those that haven't done VCE chemistry
Chemistry 1+2 -> for science kids
Chemistry for Biomedicine -> for biomedicine only.

What about content wise (sorry for not making my question more clear)?

Edit:
777th post.

Not sure about Fundamentals.

Chemistry 1's topics are beyond me, too.

I wrote a massive review on Chemistry 1 and 2 in the subject reviews and ratings section but I have to go just as I'm writing this. Will link it later if I remember. Over and out.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on November 29, 2012, 08:31:59 pm
Stonecold what is your major now?

Still Micro & Immuno. :)
You are going to hate me but physiology was so annoying this semester. 
It was taught so bad that I got the lectopia links from the science kids and listened to Charles Sevigny pretty much all semester instead haha.
That guy is an out and out dead set legend.  If he taught physiology in 3rd year, then I'd consider it but with some of the current staff, no thankyou!!!

I guess you are doing physiology? :p
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on November 30, 2012, 02:22:26 am
74 for Genetics (Turns out I completely missed an exam question worth 1.5% which would've made it a H2A) and 79 for Chemistry 2 (so close to a H1).

They've got to be the most painful marks to get - here's hoping I can get them bumped over the threshold when I get my exam checked.


You do not have much pain in your life, do you?  ;)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on November 30, 2012, 04:13:07 am
Fundamentals -> for those that haven't done VCE chemistry
Chemistry 1+2 -> for science kids
Chemistry for Biomedicine -> for biomedicine only.

Just to add, Fundamentals of Chemistry progresses on to Chemistry 1 and Chemistry 2. If you do well in Fundy, you can skip straight into Chem 2. God forbid you actually decide to put yourself through that, though - so much of Chem 1 is assessed in Chem 2.

It wasn't too bad provided you are prepared to go ask for help when you need it
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on November 30, 2012, 01:33:19 pm
Still Micro & Immuno. :)
You are going to hate me but physiology was so annoying this semester. 
It was taught so bad that I got the lectopia links from the science kids and listened to Charles Sevigny pretty much all semester instead haha.
That guy is an out and out dead set legend.  If he taught physiology in 3rd year, then I'd consider it but with some of the current staff, no thankyou!!!

I guess you are doing physiology? :p

Aw crap well I guess I'm never going to top another class again :3
I enrolled in Micro/Immuno as my major!  We're gonna be best buds/marks rivals/etc etc yayyy.

Haha, Charles <3 omg.  He's so dreamy! :333

I was considering switching into Physiology but idk D: Micro/Immuno seems more practical and I want to challenge myself. I really want to take Virology too!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: golden on November 30, 2012, 06:34:12 pm
Physics Life Sciences is out.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 01, 2012, 02:55:44 pm
Physics Life Sciences is out.

Will post up my fate momentarily. Checking now. Hoping that I don't fail - my ultimate happiness goal would be a 65. Let's pray!

PHYC10006 - Physics 2: Life Sciences & Environment
Passed
2012, Semester 2, Parkville, On Campus, Semester 2
Mark: 70 Grade: Second Class Hons B (H2B)


Edit:
WHAT THE... THAT'S MORE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER HOPED TO EXPECT FOR. I LEARNED THE WHOLE COURSE IN THE DAY BEFORE THE EXAM. NOT EVEN KIDDING.

Wow. Holy smokes.

Edit2: /end elation #exhale

Edit3:

Okay, final marks

Russian 2 - 82
Chemistry 2 - 79
Genetics and Evolution of Life: 74
Physics 2: Life Sciences and Environment 70 .... -> absolutely unforseen mark, mfw:
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Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hehetymen on December 01, 2012, 05:39:27 pm
Are H2A's good? Just got 3 of them and notsheriff want. Also are breadth's worth less in contributing to your GPA or w/e?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 01, 2012, 05:48:52 pm
Are H2A's good? Just got 3 of them and notsheriff want. Also are breadth's worth less in contributing to your GPA or w/e?

H2A's are great. Think of it as a distinction average. Breadth's are worth the same, that's the beauty of them.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hehetymen on December 01, 2012, 06:06:56 pm
Cool. I keep thinking of H2As as the equivalent of a B.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on December 01, 2012, 06:29:23 pm
Cool. I keep thinking of H2As as the equivalent of a B.

A H2A is kind of equivalent to a D+ (as in Distinction plus) whereas a H2B is more so a Distinction, you can think of it that way for an extra confidence boost!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: John President on December 01, 2012, 08:21:56 pm
Stonecold, I just had a big realisation - I think I've met you!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 01, 2012, 08:43:25 pm
I've got a few questions regarding the total points requirements, what happens if you pass all your units but you do an extra 1 or 2 units on top of the 24 units for your degree? And of course, satisfy the commerce and breadth elective point requirements for each level and complete all core units.
Are we even allowed to do this? lol
If we are how do the fees work for it? And would all of them appear on the academic transcript?

Cheers!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 01, 2012, 09:06:10 pm
I've got a few questions regarding the total points requirements, what happens if you pass all your units but you do an extra 1 or 2 units on top of the 24 units for your degree? And of course, satisfy the commerce and breadth elective point requirements for each level and complete all core units.
Are we even allowed to do this? lol
If we are how do the fees work for it? And would all of them appear on the academic transcript?

Cheers!

You have to take CAP subjects. Otherwise, fit it into the 300 points and satisfy all the other requirements of your course. That means a minimum of 50 points of breadth and 50 points of Level 3 major study, etc.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: cibicl on December 01, 2012, 09:23:04 pm
Are any of you guys doing summer school? Just to get a subject out of the way and ease the work load further down the track? Think its a good idea? :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 01, 2012, 09:25:43 pm
Are any of you guys doing summer school? Just to get a subject out of the way and ease the work load further down the track? Think its a good idea? :)

I'm doing summer subjects to avoid overloading. Picking up a DipLang in German. I've applied for the Summer subject, but I can't find it in the timetable, so I'm not sure there's enough demand for them to run it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 01, 2012, 09:35:07 pm
I'm taking Foundations of Electrical Networks in Summer and I've just got all the course material. I'm doing this because of my exchange trip, and I did seriously want to knock off a pre-req class in the summer to avoid the high contact hours in years down the track. I personally would recommend it just because 4 months of holidays is a tad too much for me, and even with a class, I'll still be having a 4 day weekend.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 01, 2012, 10:08:36 pm
I've got a few questions regarding the total points requirements, what happens if you pass all your units but you do an extra 1 or 2 units on top of the 24 units for your degree? And of course, satisfy the commerce and breadth elective point requirements for each level and complete all core units.
Are we even allowed to do this? lol
If we are how do the fees work for it? And would all of them appear on the academic transcript?

Cheers!

You have to take CAP subjects. Otherwise, fit it into the 300 points and satisfy all the other requirements of your course. That means a minimum of 50 points of breadth and 50 points of Level 3 major study, etc.
Ahh ok I see.
Doing some further research, I see for Masters of Engineering either requires you to take the engineering breadth stream or to complete 2 1st year math units and 25 points in physics/chemistry depending on the specialisation. Which comes to a trade off between double major in undergrad with a few CAP units and 3 year Masters or single commerce major and engineering breadth sequence with a 2 year Masters. Hmmm
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 01, 2012, 10:19:41 pm
I've got a few questions regarding the total points requirements, what happens if you pass all your units but you do an extra 1 or 2 units on top of the 24 units for your degree? And of course, satisfy the commerce and breadth elective point requirements for each level and complete all core units.
Are we even allowed to do this? lol
If we are how do the fees work for it? And would all of them appear on the academic transcript?

Cheers!

You have to take CAP subjects. Otherwise, fit it into the 300 points and satisfy all the other requirements of your course. That means a minimum of 50 points of breadth and 50 points of Level 3 major study, etc.
Ahh ok I see.
Doing some further research, I see for Masters of Engineering either requires you to take the engineering breadth stream or to complete 2 1st year math units and 25 points in physics/chemistry depending on the specialisation. Which comes to a trade off between double major in undergrad with a few CAP units and 3 year Masters or single commerce major and engineering breadth sequence with a 2 year Masters. Hmmm

You can also get diplomas where half the subjects are paid for.

If you do a DipLang it's an extra 100 points of study outside your degree (as in I now have 400 points total, another 8 subjects, which is 1 extra year of study).

If you complete it, you get the last 50 points for free.

You could be able to do something like that for maths. Check it out.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 01, 2012, 10:43:01 pm
Yeah I took a look at that and I've done Calc 2 and Linear Algebra which puts me in a good position to start it. What do you guys think of doing a diploma in mathematics in order to give you a bit of an edge? How much would it effect employment prospects? I mean I enjoy learning math but I don't really want to fork out a few extra grand and maybe a semester to do something that may not give me much more of an advantage employment wise.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 01, 2012, 10:46:00 pm
What's your major?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 01, 2012, 11:11:27 pm
What's your major?
I'm thinking Finance/Economics or Finance/Eng stream, I don't think actuarial is for me. And at this stage considering post-grad options as well. Still not sold on anything same as this time last year, but at least I've gotten first year of uni out of the way! lol :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 01, 2012, 11:35:47 pm
If you are doing Finance / Eng, I wouldn't recommend doing a Maths Dip because Engineering has enough mathematics in it for employers to know that you are good at it. If you are doing Finance / Eco, I think it would be more beneficial to do an honours year in fin or eco (depending on what field you want to work it) rather than do a maths dip. I've heard (from actual people and whirlpool forums), that getting a job in economics these days requires an honours year minimum, and finance is quite competitive as well (hearsay).
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 01, 2012, 11:54:48 pm
I lurk whirlpool for career advice and direction too :P hehe some pretty good advice on there! This is the main reason why I'm against the diploma in math, since an honours year seems more valuable in some aspects.
Thanks for you input! But still at square one haha finance/eco or finance/eng these were both my primary options in the latter half of last year, but still haven't decided! I'll have to sleep on it and go at it again tomorrow :P


Are any of you guys doing summer school? Just to get a subject out of the way and ease the work load further down the track? Think its a good idea? :)
Yeah I plan to do business finance during summer :) And maybe another unit depending on what major I decide on - would be best to do ESD2 if I choose eng stream. That's my main reasoning - get one unit out of the way now. It depends on what you have planned imo, if you've got a lot on then maybe take more time and relax during your holidays. But since I'm only working part time and the remaining time is free I figured I may as well! :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 01, 2012, 11:59:09 pm
Remember that class registration for summer classes is on this Monday, so make sure you have decided between ESD2 and BF before then otherwise you will have an absolute shit timetable.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 02, 2012, 12:09:52 am
Remember that class registration for summer classes is on this Monday, so make sure you have decided between ESD2 and BF before then otherwise you will have an absolute shit timetable.
Yeah I saw the other day! Hence my stress! >.> Ahh I've looked at the timetables for a few units too and some units look fairly hectic!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 02, 2012, 12:19:25 am
Just be aware that if you want to get into engineering that you need to do all of the pre-requisites. I don't know what they are, BUT I imagine that they WOULD be Engineering Systems Design and alike, in addition to subjects like Engineering Mathematics which would require probably both subjects from the mathematics AND undergrad-eng disciplines.

The problem?

I'm not sure you can do the ESD ones in a diploma of maths.

So maybe pick those / do them as breadth and use a diploma of maths to do your math subjects.

Just be aware too that you only get free subjects IF You FINISH the diploma. Make sure you finish it, or you'll pay a fair bit extra.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 02, 2012, 12:25:45 am
Yeah I don't think the engineering ones are, but I don't think I'll be doing the diploma it was just an idea I flirted with. Thanks for the info tho! :)
This is why I love AN you guys always have the answers! <3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 12:28:36 am
Where does one find the summer intensive subject list?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 02, 2012, 12:30:57 am
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/search/AdvancedSearch.jsp

Make sure to select 'Summer Semester' in the 'Study Period' section.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 12:31:36 am
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/faces/htdocs/user/search/AdvancedSearch.jsp

Make sure to select 'Summer Semester' in the 'Study Period' section.

Ta. I never knew that was a criterion of the Hanbook.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 02, 2012, 12:32:25 am
Where does one find the summer intensive subject list?

I don't know how to post links from the handbook.

Go to handbook.unimelb.edu.au
Click Advanced Search
Search for whatever options give you all subjects you are interested in, but for the term of study, click the drop down menu and hit "summer semester".

Wala.

Edit: Damn, Hancock beat me to it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 12:34:31 am
Still very appreciated :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 02, 2012, 12:36:19 am
Just going off your username, but are you majoring in Mech Engineering?

EDIT: Wait, I just remembered you getting marks from your Arts degree. My bad  :P
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 01:02:15 am
Yeah, I study philosophy and politics.  ;D Mech is just a short name that generally seems to describe my interest in conceptual mechanisms of things.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: seretide on December 02, 2012, 12:51:58 pm
Just a quick question - is there a date by which we need to have all our subjects chosen?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 01:09:41 pm
Just a quick question - is there a date by which we need to have all our subjects chosen?

Are you a returning UoM student or just starting? If the former, you need to have your subjects in by the 14th December if I remember correctly. I did mine a while ago, so I do not remember.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 02, 2012, 01:10:10 pm
Just a quick question - is there a date by which we need to have all our subjects chosen?

14th Dec else $100 fine

Edit: God damn, beaten again by a mere 24 seconds.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 01:14:17 pm
 8)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 02, 2012, 01:49:58 pm
If we've registered our subjects then decide to withdraw from one subject and move into another before the census date, then there won't be any extra fees right?

Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 02, 2012, 02:26:01 pm
If we've registered our subjects then decide to withdraw from one subject and move into another before the census date, then there won't be any extra fees right?

Pretty sure that is the case.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on December 02, 2012, 02:53:45 pm
If we've registered our subjects then decide to withdraw from one subject and move into another before the census date, then there won't be any extra fees right?



Nope.  None, provided you do it before the census date.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 02, 2012, 04:30:17 pm
What did you choose swarley?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 02, 2012, 06:03:37 pm
Sweet! :)

What did you choose swarley?
I'm going to go with Finance and Mechanical Systems (Maybe Electrical but I need to find out some info first) I'm happy with this! During year 12 I always had Comm/Eng on my radar but didn't want to commit before trying other options. Now that I've had a taste of most the comm fields, I think it's time to commit to a goal and purpose :) Also before this year started, I just wanted to get uni done and dusted i.e. a 3 year Comm degree and start working! LOL But now I want to study honours/masters to gain the extra qualification and knowledge and stay at uni for a couple more years! The workforce sucks! :P
Glad I've taken the path I have this year, the Melbourne model may not be so bad afterall.... @Gloamglozer :P

Also, does anyone know how many units you need to take as a minimum for the engineering breadth stream to qualify for the Masters? Like are there certain units that are prerequisites? I read on the breadth site that it's 8-10 units which seems to depend on the specialisation. Atm if I follow some of the example course structures I would need to do 9 units. If I could do 8 units and do that other unit in the Masters then it would work out nicely since I wouldn't have to do an extra unit as a CAP subject. But if it isn't possible then it shouldn't matter too much. Hmm after looking at the course structure in the Masters it doesn't seem possible as electives are only available during the 2nd year.


Another question! :P (I have too many hehe) How do you change the stream in your study planner? o_O
I think I have to get the student centre to do it... Damn, stupid 'Change' hyperlink doesn't appear when I un-enroll from everything.

This study planner is killing me >.< Looks like I may have to wait till tomorrow to change it :S Eugghhhh.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Tashi on December 03, 2012, 01:09:22 pm
Has anyone been able to get on the summer class registration? Won't loadddddd
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: lvmpid on December 03, 2012, 01:45:07 pm
Has anyone been able to get on the summer class registration? Won't loadddddd

I still can't get it either :(, I'm already on the page where you can generate clash free timetable but it says there is no classes available? Not sure if subject is full or portal is being stoopid
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 03, 2012, 01:47:31 pm
Completed at 10:01. Lawlllll so much better than the start of year enrollment.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on December 03, 2012, 01:47:45 pm
Has anyone been able to get on the summer class registration? Won't loadddddd

Yeah I've got it.  All registered and all good.  Did it at about 10:30 this morning.

Have you tried doing it manually?  That's what I did instead of generating a clash free timetable.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Tashi on December 03, 2012, 01:50:39 pm
Haha before I couldn't even log in. Finally got it though. Damn intermediate micro with a minimum 3 days.... does anyone know if its recorded? :D hehehe
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: darlok on December 03, 2012, 02:10:24 pm
Anyone know how long it usually takes for honours acceptances to roll out?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Plan-B on December 03, 2012, 05:22:07 pm
Haha before I couldn't even log in. Finally got it though. Damn intermediate micro with a minimum 3 days.... does anyone know if its recorded? :D hehehe

I knoww... Gonna spend 3 hours travelling just to attend a one hour micro tute on wednesday D:
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ItsSKC on December 03, 2012, 08:07:01 pm
Anyone know how long it usually takes for honours acceptances to roll out?
The official date for offers will be the 21st of December but I know many who have already been told by the labs that they will be accepted. Have you been contacted by any of the labs that you have applied for?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: darlok on December 04, 2012, 12:30:13 pm
Anyone know how long it usually takes for honours acceptances to roll out?
The official date for offers will be the 21st of December but I know many who have already been told by the labs that they will be accepted. Have you been contacted by any of the labs that you have applied for?

I'm doing economics honours, so no labs. I'm not worried about getting in, just want it to be official.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on December 04, 2012, 12:37:59 pm
Questionnn can you HECS CAP subjects?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on December 04, 2012, 01:39:41 pm
Questionnn can you HECS CAP subjects?

Nope.  CAP is not part of your degree so you have to pay upfront for it.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 04, 2012, 02:38:07 pm
Questionnn can you HECS CAP subjects?

How'd you go in all your subjects? Surely you'd have blitzed first year, 1st and 2nd sem
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on December 04, 2012, 04:00:53 pm
Nope.  CAP is not part of your degree so you have to pay upfront for it.

Grr that's annoying :P I take it there's also no CSP discount or anything?

Vaguely annoying... I want to do just a little bit more maths, but I can't really fit it into my degree unless I do a full on concurrent Diploma of Mathematical Sciences >_>


How'd you go in all your subjects? Surely you'd have blitzed first year, 1st and 2nd sem

Haha yeah they were fine thanks =)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on December 04, 2012, 04:36:28 pm
Nope.  CAP is not part of your degree so you have to pay upfront for it.

Grr that's annoying :P I take it there's also no CSP discount or anything?

Vaguely annoying... I want to do just a little bit more maths, but I can't really fit it into my degree unless I do a full on concurrent Diploma of Mathematical Sciences >_>

What's wrong with doing a Diploma of Mathematical Sciences?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Aurelian on December 04, 2012, 04:49:29 pm
What's wrong with doing a Diploma of Mathematical Sciences?

Couple of things. The first is that I'm unsure whether or not I want to add an extra year onto my degree (fast tracking wont work with the rest of my degree, unfortunately). Secondly, I don't really know how well I'd actually cope with third year mathematics... I'm good at maths, but by no means "brilliant" :S
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on December 04, 2012, 04:59:38 pm
Allegedly results come out "tonight"

Fantastically vague from the MEU >.<
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ReganM on December 05, 2012, 10:48:38 am
ANyone else having issues registering for summer subjects? Did I miss the deadline.. I already enrolled it in.. but only noticed I could register yesterday (like get the timetable). o_o

I'm getting this message:
Class Registrations are currently disabled.
Please try again in 4 hours.

I'm trying to register for Flora and Fauna of Victoria..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 05, 2012, 11:02:12 am
ANyone else having issues registering for summer subjects? Did I miss the deadline.. I already enrolled it in.. but only noticed I could register yesterday (like get the timetable). o_o

I'm getting this message:
Class Registrations are currently disabled.
Please try again in 4 hours.

I'm trying to register for Flora and Fauna of Victoria..
It was working for me early yesterday and the night before. But I'm getting the same message atm! :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 05, 2012, 11:04:19 am
ANyone else having issues registering for summer subjects? Did I miss the deadline.. I already enrolled it in.. but only noticed I could register yesterday (like get the timetable). o_o

I'm getting this message:
Class Registrations are currently disabled.
Please try again in 4 hours.

I'm trying to register for Flora and Fauna of Victoria..

Did you make sure that you registered for the Summer Semester in your study plan?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ReganM on December 05, 2012, 09:43:49 pm
ANyone else having issues registering for summer subjects? Did I miss the deadline.. I already enrolled it in.. but only noticed I could register yesterday (like get the timetable). o_o

I'm getting this message:
Class Registrations are currently disabled.
Please try again in 4 hours.

I'm trying to register for Flora and Fauna of Victoria..

Did you make sure that you registered for the Summer Semester in your study plan?

It says I'm enrolled in the subject on the study plan.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: ReganM on December 07, 2012, 10:57:29 am
Just got off the phone with 13 MELB, they said there was an issue with the portal (as per usual) and if timetabling doesn't work by next Wed then I should call again.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 07, 2012, 12:26:13 pm
Just got off the phone with 13 MELB, they said there was an issue with the portal (as per usual) and if timetabling doesn't work by next Wed then I should call again.
The timetabling/registering for classes is working for me atm. Although one of the time slots that's in the handbook for a workshop isn't there which sucks :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: joyjoy on December 07, 2012, 12:28:24 pm
TIMETABLING IS DRIVING ME INSANE!!! That is all.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 07, 2012, 02:12:43 pm
When did the timetables open??

I missed out on the good streams already :(
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Hancock on December 07, 2012, 02:26:28 pm
They opened last Monday. Apparently everyone has been having trouble with Chem 2, so maybe you'll get a good stream.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 07, 2012, 08:01:24 pm
So i was planning to do a genetics major and i just realised that i can't!!!

http://bsc.unimelb.edu.au/genetics

There are 3 second year subjects i need to do which are all pre-reqs for the compulsory 3rd year subjects.

But i only have 2 second year subject slots left :(

3 has to go towards the medicine pre-req subjects, i already used a "BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3" slot this year and the other one left over has to be for Chemistry 2.

Which leaves me only 2 available slots.

I guess there's no way to do genetics unless i do an extra subject somehow -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on December 07, 2012, 08:23:55 pm
So i was planning to do a genetics major and i just realised that i can't!!!

http://bsc.unimelb.edu.au/genetics

There are 3 second year subjects i need to do which are all pre-reqs for the compulsory 3rd year subjects.

But i only have 2 second year subject slots left :(

3 has to go towards the medicine pre-req subjects, i already used a "BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3" slot this year and the other one left over has to be for Chemistry 2.

Which leaves me only 2 available slots.

I guess there's no way to do genetics unless i do an extra subject somehow -.-

You can do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6 so you can have two extra science subjects if you don't do all the breadth. Maybe that would allow you to fit more in.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 07, 2012, 08:34:11 pm
You can do a minimum of 4 breadth and a maximum of 6 so you can have two extra science subjects if you don't do all the breadth. Maybe that would allow you to fit more in.

OMG I LOVE YOU! i thought you had to do 6 breadth!!!!

<3
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on December 07, 2012, 08:54:22 pm
OMG I LOVE YOU! i thought you had to do 6 breadth!!!!

<3

Hahaha :P There should be a slot at the botton of the study plan. "Science and breadth" I think it's called.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: stonecold on December 10, 2012, 06:18:44 pm
So i was planning to do a genetics major and i just realised that i can't!!!

http://bsc.unimelb.edu.au/genetics

There are 3 second year subjects i need to do which are all pre-reqs for the compulsory 3rd year subjects.

But i only have 2 second year subject slots left :(

3 has to go towards the medicine pre-req subjects, i already used a "BS-SCISUBLV123 - Science Level 1, 2 & 3" slot this year and the other one left over has to be for Chemistry 2.

Which leaves me only 2 available slots.

I guess there's no way to do genetics unless i do an extra subject somehow -.-

Are you science or biomed mate?

If you are in science then you have to do all three of Principles of Genetics, Genes and Genomes and Experimentsin Genetics.

If you are in biomed then you just have to do Principles of Genetics and one of Experiments in Genetics, Techniques in Molecular Science or Microbes, Infections and Responses.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 10, 2012, 07:25:42 pm
Are you science or biomed mate?

If you are in science then you have to do all three of Principles of Genetics, Genes and Genomes and Experimentsin Genetics.

If you are in biomed then you just have to do Principles of Genetics and one of Experiments in Genetics, Techniques in Molecular Science or Microbes, Infections and Responses.

I'm doing Science, i didn't realise that you could do less than 6 breadth subjects :P

I guess if i want to do genetics, i will have to give up a bludge breadth subject for a genetics subject :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on December 10, 2012, 08:18:00 pm
Why would you even do six breadths?  I'm taking the minimum amount of ONE right now and the essay is killing me.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 10, 2012, 08:41:17 pm
Why would you even do six breadths?  I'm taking the minimum amount of ONE right now and the essay is killing me.

Isn't the minimum amount 4??

Well doing one in each semester enables you to do something different....It's refreshing instead of doing all 4 science subjects :) Not to mention less effort required
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Peedles on December 10, 2012, 08:47:58 pm
Isn't the minimum amount 4??

Well doing one in each semester enables you to do something different....It's refreshing instead of doing all 4 science subjects :) Not to mention less effort required

The minimum amount of breadths is 6. With 2 of the 6 subjects (12.5 credit points each) that can be chosen from another faculty (like the other 4 breadths) or you could choose to elect a subject that is within your own faculty. So essentially you get 2 free subjects.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: simpak on December 10, 2012, 09:03:16 pm
Yes, the minimum amount is four but I credited three from my previous degree so I only have to take one as a part of Science.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: jinny1 on December 10, 2012, 09:06:11 pm
Yes, the minimum amount is four but I credited three from my previous degree so I only have to take one as a part of Science.

OH i gotcha.

I was also wondering on a sidenot:; would not having done a 300-level practical subject disadvantage if you decide to do an honours year?

Just curious because Biotech has no practical subject required....unlike genetics
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: charmanderp on December 10, 2012, 09:16:08 pm
Isn't the minimum amount 4??

Well doing one in each semester enables you to do something different....It's refreshing instead of doing all 4 science subjects :) Not to mention less effort required
I'm with you; I'd like to do as much breadth as possible (:
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 10, 2012, 09:36:11 pm
I'm with you; I'd like to do as much breadth as possible (:

Trust me, it's the best decision you can make. Two languages. Russian 1-6 and German with a Diploma of Languages. Arts students can't even learn to languages like that, but it's loopholed so Science students can. Enrolled into it successfully and got accepted today.

My degree roles out as BSc in Chemistry / Medicinal Chemistry / Pharmacology with a DipLang in German and Russian if I take up two CAP subjects, and then medicine pre-requisites, for only a 4 year bachelors. It sounds funky at least :P

Edit: We couldn't think more alike. I wanted to do cool breadth subjects because English was such a different side of me and it's manifested itself into Languages. Breadth are the best, I wish the maximum you could do was 8 subjects so that I could have picked two to replace physics and calculus in first year, which brought me abysmal marks.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Turtle on December 11, 2012, 11:39:01 am
I have a question about subjects for next year.
I am considering whether to do Principles of Genetics as a subject for next year, or whether to do Fundementals of Cell Biology instead.
Can anyone give me advice if they have done one of them/or both, which one I might prefer?

I really enjoyed the rote learning site of Biology this year because I am not naturally smart but I am willing to work hard to memorise things, and I am less skilled at solving problems. I enjoy human biology more than animal biology. Anyway, if anyone could tell me anything that would help me decide between these two subjects then that would be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pyro-53 on December 12, 2012, 12:24:16 am
Happens to all subjects, even up to final year.  The only time it doesn't happen as much is probably when there is a small class (such as third maths) where you tend to know everyone including the international students and get along with them since we collaborate.

Or it doesn't happen to the brave international students who are willing to talk to local students and willing to get along with them.  They are, unfortunately, rare in my experience.


Lol.. In bio tute, you see the rest of the room being international students and all the local students bunched up in one table only.
It's actually hilarious being the only international student on that table. So yes.. we brave ones do exist :P


I've always had an unconfirmed theory that the brave ones are mainly science students since most science students are forced to work together in pracs or tutes.  But I can't prove it.

And it's real shame that there's so few of them around.


I'm in Biomed actually but close enough. ahahah
The only time you do get forced to work together are in Pracs then after that you could just ignore the other person for the rest of eternity.
What you say is true though. I actually haven't met many International students who just get in there and mix.
I know I'm weird for digging up this conversation suddenly. But I hope this article speaks for some of us international students who actually wish to blend in.
http://union.unimelb.edu.au/farrago/my-adopted-home/us-vs-them
I also hope that regardless of whichever uni I will get into next year I still get the same welcome from AN :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 12, 2012, 04:22:07 pm
Quote
Of course we know that it exists. We pay 10 times the university fee, double the public transport fee, get offered less jobs, have smaller wages, and sometimes we have to endure being in tutorials whose tutors show discrimination. We know—we just act as if we don’t.

How is it discrimination to charge international students more? Universities are businesses and the government is not willing to offer subsidies people who most likely wont be taxpayers or have not got family that are taxpayers in this country.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: pyro-53 on December 12, 2012, 05:04:33 pm
How is it discrimination to charge international students more? Universities are businesses and the government is not willing to offer subsidies people who most likely wont be taxpayers or have not got family that are taxpayers in this country.
The author is trying to say that some of her tutors show discrmination not the fee.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Mech on December 12, 2012, 07:30:59 pm
The author is trying to say that some of her tutors show discrmination not the fee.

Why are they talking about paying more in fees re: discrimination then?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on December 12, 2012, 10:53:51 pm
Why are they talking about paying more in fees re: discrimination then?

I think it's more just highlighting some of the differences between international and local students.
It's a fair point that we are paying more. Why subsidise students who may not be staying in the country to contribute
to the country's skill pool? I just wish there was some kinda scheme out there that let you reimburse some amount of
funds that you have paid for education here if it is shown that you are contributing to the professional skill pool but that's a whole other issue to the one at hand...

DISCLAIMER: Please don't be offended by anything I post after here. It is just my opinion and not a generalisation. I'm also attempting to reply with about 5 hours of sleep and a 12 hour day at work so shhh....

As for the article, I completely see where it's coming from. This is my fourth year here in Melbourne and I will admit that there are still some groups that I try to get into but just feel walled away. I don't know if it's my personality or race but it's not something that I can control so I just let it be. You can't win them all.
Also, if you have an "us vs them" mentality, it's never gonna work out right. You might not get every single joke they crack but you learn over time. What I found is that if you are willing to go up and say hi, majority of the time they will respond. It's not something that will happen quickly and there will be many awkward silences but it's all part of it. As I said before, there will be groups that talk to you but you may not invite you into their circle but that's okay. It's still someone that you can consider an acquaintance.

With the jokes, you have to have an open mind about it. I found Aussie culture to be pretty chilled and straightforward so some jokes might seem a bit harsh but you can usually tell when they are seriously racist/insulting and when they are not. Just need to be a bit open minded about it. Again, from the other end of the spectrum, I have seen some pretty bad "jokes" so hmm.. It's difficult.
To be fair, there are some things that some International kids tend to do which make them pretty unpleasant and makes it more difficult to "merge the groups". Yelling out to another person in another language and strong smelling foods in libraries are never nice...

It might be because I did high school here so I saw it differently compared to someone who just started Uni here. To be fair, I do have a pretty good command of English and am generally quite outgoing so I probably found it easier. I can see how difficult it would be to have the confidence to start a conversation in a language you aren't extremely proficient in. It's all a learning process.

Please feel free to PM me if anyone wants to continue with this discussion. I would continue here but I worry that this doesn't really have anything to do with the thread...
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Planck's constant on December 12, 2012, 11:15:44 pm

.I would continue here but I worry that this doesn't really have anything to do with the thread...



No mate. Yours was a great post and it has EVERYTHNING to do with the thread.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on December 13, 2012, 01:36:17 pm
I think it's more just highlighting some of the differences between international and local students.
It's a fair point that we are paying more. Why subsidise students who may not be staying in the country to contribute
to the country's skill pool? I just wish there was some kinda scheme out there that let you reimburse some amount of
funds that you have paid for education here if it is shown that you are contributing to the professional skill pool but that's a whole other issue to the one at hand...

DISCLAIMER: Please don't be offended by anything I post after here. It is just my opinion and not a generalisation. I'm also attempting to reply with about 5 hours of sleep and a 12 hour day at work so shhh....

As for the article, I completely see where it's coming from. This is my fourth year here in Melbourne and I will admit that there are still some groups that I try to get into but just feel walled away. I don't know if it's my personality or race but it's not something that I can control so I just let it be. You can't win them all.
Also, if you have an "us vs them" mentality, it's never gonna work out right. You might not get every single joke they crack but you learn over time. What I found is that if you are willing to go up and say hi, majority of the time they will respond. It's not something that will happen quickly and there will be many awkward silences but it's all part of it. As I said before, there will be groups that talk to you but you may not invite you into their circle but that's okay. It's still someone that you can consider an acquaintance.

With the jokes, you have to have an open mind about it. I found Aussie culture to be pretty chilled and straightforward so some jokes might seem a bit harsh but you can usually tell when they are seriously racist/insulting and when they are not. Just need to be a bit open minded about it. Again, from the other end of the spectrum, I have seen some pretty bad "jokes" so hmm.. It's difficult.
To be fair, there are some things that some International kids tend to do which make them pretty unpleasant and makes it more difficult to "merge the groups". Yelling out to another person in another language and strong smelling foods in libraries are never nice...

It might be because I did high school here so I saw it differently compared to someone who just started Uni here. To be fair, I do have a pretty good command of English and am generally quite outgoing so I probably found it easier. I can see how difficult it would be to have the confidence to start a conversation in a language you aren't extremely proficient in. It's all a learning process.

Please feel free to PM me if anyone wants to continue with this discussion. I would continue here but I worry that this doesn't really have anything to do with the thread...

Re: this.

It depends on the group you are trying to get into. We have international students from Russia, Poland, and the Netherlands in our group, and surprisingly the one from the Netherlands speaks the worst English. They fully assimilated themselves into our group over the course of first year despite hardly being able to speak English. They couldn't type our names into their phones when we were exchanging numbers, etc, we had to explain the sounds of the different characters. It was that bad. But they were absolute extroverts and always made an effort to put into the conversation, even if they had no idea what the hell we were talking about. They'd find a word that they knew and they'd say something about it. It was brilliant, because they were always so funny with the language barrier. I don't think it's so much a matter of people not being able to speak the language and being inconfident about it. It's more about gauging how appropriate your personality is with respect to the social dynamics of the group you are trying to join. Most everyone in our group are major extroverts and we're all genuinely pretty interested in finding out about funky international students who don't speak our language.

My point? It's easier to join a group of extroverts that aren't exactly the dismissive type, and it's a hell of a lot easier if you're a lot more extroverted in general. Worked for me coming to Australia.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Greatness on December 14, 2012, 04:22:32 pm
Nooo, the handbook says a subject is available next year, but I can't find it in the study planner for enrollment :( It looked pretty cool as well...
Not Happy. Have to enroll in something else for the time being I guess :/
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nubs on December 19, 2012, 04:58:58 pm
Hey, since I started my course in 2012, will I pay my fees for the rest of the course according to what each subject was worth in 2012?
For example, if in 2012 science subjects costed $500 each, and in 2013 they were worth $1000 each, and I started uni in 2012, will I only have to pay $500 per science subject for the rest of my degree? Or would I have to start paying $1000 for each science subject in 2013?

EDIT:
I was told earlier in the year that the fees for each subject would remain the same until my degree was completed, and that if a science subject had a cost of $500 in the year that I enrolled, it would remain at that cost for the rest of my degree, but I just got a statement of liability that lists a subject for the summer semester as costing  $1,045, which is what science subjects cost in 2013, almost twice as much as what they were this year.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: claireb on December 19, 2012, 05:19:19 pm
Hey, since I started my course in 2012, will I pay my fees for the rest of the course according to what each subject was worth in 2012?
For example, if in 2012 science subjects costed $500 each, and in 2013 they were worth $1000 each, and I started uni in 2012, will I only have to pay $500 per science subject for the rest of my degree? Or would I have to start paying $1000 for each science subject in 2013?

EDIT:
I was told earlier in the year that the fees for each subject would remain the same until my degree was completed, and that if a science subject had a cost of $500 in the year that I enrolled, it would remain at that cost for the rest of my degree, but I just got a statement of liability that lists a subject for the summer semester as costing  $1,045, which is what science subjects cost in 2013, almost twice as much as what they were this year.

I think it was initially that the fees would stay the same but then the government changed it so everyone has to pay the higher fees from now on.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Plan-B on December 20, 2012, 03:32:57 am
Anyone know the dates or period of 2013 summer school exams?
I have training for orientation host sometime in feb along with some other extracurricular stuff.. and am worried that exams won't finish in time.
Any ideas?

Thanks

edit:
And the dates of semester 1 registration (commerce) if possible?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on December 20, 2012, 03:44:01 am
Anyone know the dates or period of 2013 summer school exams?
I have training for orientation host sometime in feb along with some other extracurricular stuff.. and am worried that exams won't finish in time.
Any ideas?

Thanks

"The exam period for Summer Semester runs from: 18 - 22 February 2013."

See: http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/csc/planning/summer
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Plan-B on December 20, 2012, 02:40:15 pm
Thank you. Was what I was looking for. :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on January 01, 2013, 11:10:59 pm
Hmm.. I am sure this has been mentioned before and I can't find where but does anyone have the date for timetabling for Sem 1 2013?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on January 02, 2013, 06:30:52 am
Hmm.. I am sure this has been mentioned before and I can't find where but does anyone have the date for timetabling for Sem 1 2013?

If you check out http://www.studentcentre.unimelb.edu.au/eastern/subject_information/Timetabling, i don't think they've released it
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on January 02, 2013, 12:57:33 pm
"Class registration opens 4 weeks before the start of each study period."

So I guess late Jan is a good indication..?
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Watermelon on January 02, 2013, 01:39:17 pm
Hmm.. I am sure this has been mentioned before and I can't find where but does anyone have the date for timetabling for Sem 1 2013?

Class registration
Summer semester 2013: from 10am, 3 December 2012
Semester 1 2013: from 10am, 28 January 2013
Semester 2 2013: from 10am, 1 July 2013 (to be confirmed)

http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/csc/planning/selection

That should be the date I think? :)
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: VivaTequila on January 02, 2013, 07:00:28 pm
Hurro, people.

Due to the Melb model, you have to complete the undergrad part (3 years) with an average of at least 65% (for example) to get into the master's program.
If you don't achieve this, does that mean you basically have a half-assed useless degree and you've wasted 3 years?

If you're going to university with the aims of getting a 65 average, it's three years wasted regardless. You're at Melbourne, man! Make something of it.

I'm not sure about eligibility criteria for Masters programs because I'm looking at an Honours year -> PhD at the moment. I know for Honours, to be competitive, you need to have around an 85% average with extra stuff to make your application look good, which is why I'm trying to get a volunteer internship for second year.

For your reference, an Honours year is the alternative to a Masters, and they'd both be rather competitive to get into.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: banditkeith on January 02, 2013, 07:03:23 pm
Class registration
Summer semester 2013: from 10am, 3 December 2012
Semester 1 2013: from 10am, 28 January 2013
Semester 2 2013: from 10am, 1 July 2013 (to be confirmed)

http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/csc/planning/selection

That should be the date I think? :)

Excellent! Thanks for that.
*Alarms SET*
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Russ on January 02, 2013, 07:10:31 pm
I know for Honours, to be competitive, you need to have around an 85% average with extra stuff to make your application look good, which is why I'm trying to get a volunteer internship for second year.


What Honours program are you trying to get into -.-
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Starlight on January 02, 2013, 09:19:28 pm
What Honours program are you trying to get into -.-

lol +1  my sister got 2 h1s for her undergrad and got into honours..
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nbhindi on January 06, 2013, 03:33:47 pm
Class registration
Summer semester 2013: from 10am, 3 December 2012
Semester 1 2013: from 10am, 28 January 2013
Semester 2 2013: from 10am, 1 July 2013 (to be confirmed)

http://fbe.unimelb.edu.au/csc/planning/selection

That should be the date I think? :)

Why does it say on the portal jan 7th then?

"Welcome to the University of Melbourne 2013 Online Timetable. The 2013 Timetable runs from 7th January 2013 to 30th December 2013"

Here's the link: https://sws.unimelb.edu.au/2013/default.aspx
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: Gloamglozer on January 06, 2013, 04:26:02 pm
Why does it say on the portal jan 7th then?

"Welcome to the University of Melbourne 2013 Online Timetable. The 2013 Timetable runs from 7th January 2013 to 30th December 2013"

Here's the link: https://sws.unimelb.edu.au/2013/default.aspx

Because it is stating that the entire 2013 timetable runs from between those two dates inclusive, which includes the 2013 summer semester and hence why it starts on 7 January.  That is different from when the semester 1 timetable opens.
Title: Re: UoM General Chat
Post by: nbhindi on January 06, 2013, 06:57:28 pm
Because it is stating that the entire 2013 timetable runs from between those two dates inclusive, which includes the 2013 summer semester and hence why it starts on 7 January.  That is different from when the semester 1 timetable opens.

Oh ok so to