Bachelor of Science (Science Scholar Program)

[vexx]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

[Akirus]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

Much more flexibility with your subject choices (don't have to do all the compulsory stuff for normal BSc), but a lot harder to get into and maintain (99.25 for 2008 clearly-in and you need a 75% average in uni to stay in the course).

[kazoospasm]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

It was introduced to keep the 99+ science types away from UoM. If you get the ENTER and were planning study a BSc, you may as well take advantage of the extra freedom.

It's the Science Advanced course that seems ridiculous to me. It appears to be little more than a restrictive version of the 'normal science' course.

[Akirus]

Back to the point before we went on a tangent:

I would like confirmation regarding the 96/144 credit points thing.

Assuming it really is 96 points to graduate, why would it still take 3 years? Isn't 48 points equivalent to 8 subjects, i.e. 2 semesters/1 year?

[ninwa]

Mod Edit: removed silly bickering off-topic posts

[vexx]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

It was introduced to keep the 99+ science types away from UoM. If you get the ENTER and were planning study a BSc, you may as well take advantage of the extra freedom.

It's the Science Advanced course that seems ridiculous to me. It appears to be little more than a restrictive version of the 'normal science' course.

yeah i suppose, but if i got 99+ there's no question i'd go to melb due to their graduate 'guaranteed' pathways.

[humph]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

It was introduced to keep the 99+ science types away from UoM. If you get the ENTER and were planning study a BSc, you may as well take advantage of the extra freedom.

It's the Science Advanced course that seems ridiculous to me. It appears to be little more than a restrictive version of the 'normal science' course.

yeah i suppose, but if i got 99+ there's no question i'd go to melb due to their graduate 'guaranteed' pathways.

If you got 99+, then you'd probably be smart enough to get first class honours at undergraduate level, which would get you into a graduate course anywhere in Australia (and even if you "only" got second class honours you'd still get into most masters courses). I think UoM are trying to make graduate studies sound more difficult to get into than they actually are.

[vexx]

is it just me or does the bachelor of science scholar's program look very similar, if not identical, to the normal science?

It was introduced to keep the 99+ science types away from UoM. If you get the ENTER and were planning study a BSc, you may as well take advantage of the extra freedom.

It's the Science Advanced course that seems ridiculous to me. It appears to be little more than a restrictive version of the 'normal science' course.

yeah i suppose, but if i got 99+ there's no question i'd go to melb due to their graduate 'guaranteed' pathways.

If you got 99+, then you'd probably be smart enough to get first class honours at undergraduate level, which would get you into a graduate course anywhere in Australia (and even if you "only" got second class honours you'd still get into most masters courses). I think UoM are trying to make graduate studies sound more difficult to get into than they actually are.

yeah i suppose this is true, but still having a garenteed pathway is much nicer since its easier to get into grad courses (you have to maintain high averages and such anyways). i guess you are right, but with some courses like med grad its extremely competitive and having the garenteed gives you an advantage - maybe its just for med wannabes like me, but its such a good opportunity increasing your chances.

[QuantumJG]

On another note, if I do go through with this course, I intend to get honors and then a PhD, so that is certainly a factor. Did I mention the prospect of having a PhD at 24 is pretty cool?

That is cool.

I could have a masters degree by 23. But then again to get a masters in physics you need a professor to actually agree to be your mentor (Its probably the same for all masters programs). I guess they don't want their record tarnished by a bad thesis.

[Akirus]

yeah i suppose this is true, but still having a garenteed pathway is much nicer since its easier to get into grad courses (you have to maintain high averages and such anyways). i guess you are right, but with some courses like med grad its extremely competitive and having the garenteed gives you an advantage - maybe its just for med wannabes like me, but its such a good opportunity increasing your chances.

I was under the impression that there wasn't any guaranteed entry to research doctorates at Melbourne, only the professional ones (MD, JD, DVM, etc).

Either way, I want to go to an American university, maybe MIT/Caltech/Harvard etc for the doctorate so the guaranteed entry doesn't really help in that regard.