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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => University of Melbourne => Topic started by: zomgSEAN on January 10, 2011, 02:35:50 pm
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Selection into fourth year is based on academic performance.
A numerical index is computed for each applicant using a combination of second and third level subjects. The index is a weighted average of all third level subjects and all second level psychology subjects. All results are converted to the University of Melbourne scale. Third level marks are weighted by their credit-point value, and second level psychology subjects are weighted by one third of their credit-point value. (For University of Melbourne students, second level psychology subjects usually contribute around 20% of the final index.)
Does this mean it is ONLY second-level psych subjects, but ALL third-level subjects, including breadth and non-psych subs?
It seems unclear :\
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they take the wam of all 2nd and 3rd year psychology subjects. But 3rd year marks are weighted more heavily.
thats how i understood it
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they take the wam of all 2nd and 3rd year psychology subjects. But 3rd year marks are weighted more heavily.
thats how i understood it
So non-psych subjects aren't counted at all?
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nope
when i applied for honours they only took the 3rd year major marks, not any other units you have done but for psych it says 2nd and 3rd year units
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The way it's worded sounds like they do count any other subjects at third year. Drop the faculty an email and ask.
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I was just going through both the melbourne and monash websites
but an honours degree and postgraduate diploma are different (in name only at monash a different faculty handles both but didnt check melbourne)
"The course structure for both fourth year courses is the same, and involves the completion of three compulsory subjects (which includes the research project), and two elective subjects."
these are just snippets i found at the melbourne site if you look here
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/BH-SCI#structureId
scroll down to psychology
"In addition to satisfying the BSc (hons) entry requirements, students interested in entering the Psychology program will need to have a major in Psychology with a weighted average of at least H2A (75%) in second and third-year subjects within the Psychology area of study, or equivalent. In computing the weighted average, second year subjects are normally assigned one-third of the weight of third-year subjects."
"Entry into an Honours program is subject to the capacity of the department(s) or schools(s) offering the program to provide adequate supervision in a project appropriate to the interests and preparation of the individual student.
d. For entry to the BSc(hons) in 2011 and 2012 only, the Selection Committee is permitted, at its discretion, to evaluate an applicant’s ability to pursue the course successfully using, as an alternative to the normal criteria,
• an undergraduate degree as detailed above, with a major relevant to the honours discipline into which entry is sought, with an average of at least H3 (65%) across 87.5 points of third-year study.
Selection is not automatic and in particular is subject to competition, to any relevant quotas, and to the availability of supervision and resources in suitable project areas."
"Students are ranked for selection according to the index and the highest ranked students falling within the agreed quota are recommended to the Faculties for selection. It should be noted that students are only considered for selection if the credit-point weighted average of all second and third level psychology subjects is at least 70% (when converted to the University of Melbourne scale)."
eh just email them lol melbourne site sucks :P
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Okay, so i just stumbled upon this link:
http://www.psych.unimelb.edu.au/courses/fourthyear/fourth_year_info_session.pdf
And, it turns out that ONLY second-level PSYCH subjects are counted
but ALL third-level subjects are counted; not just psych ones.
Thanks for all your help guizzeeee.
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Yeah but tbqh the competition for trying to get into Psych Honours at Melbourne is very high because if you don't have four years you can't practice or go on to further study.
So they're kind of likely to look at your whole academic record bar first year.
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Yeah but tbqh the competition for trying to get into Psych Honours at Melbourne is very high because if you don't have four years you can't practice or go on to further study.
So they're kind of likely to look at your whole academic record bar first year.
Hmm, I was thinking that.
Meh, i'll just H1 everything for lulz.
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Yeah but tbqh the competition for trying to get into Psych Honours at Melbourne is very high because if you don't have four years you can't practice or go on to further study.
So they're kind of likely to look at your whole academic record bar first year.
Hmm, I was thinking that.
Meh, i'll just H1 everything for lulz.
Just be me, everyone in my psych tute hates me.
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Yeah but tbqh the competition for trying to get into Psych Honours at Melbourne is very high because if you don't have four years you can't practice or go on to further study.
So they're kind of likely to look at your whole academic record bar first year.
Hmm, I was thinking that.
Meh, i'll just H1 everything for lulz.
Just be me, everyone in my psych tute hates me.
Why?
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arts students doing psych generally have never done biology before and absolutely freak out at it :P
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arts students doing psych generally have never done biology before and absolutely freak out at it :P
Oh. Haha.
That'll be me!
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They all hate me because I get straight H1s and it means if I don't transfer out of their course I will take their Honours placements. And then I spend all my time being like 'oh but I only got 85 so it wasn't that good'. Yeah and then what Russ said, they all either know how to write essays or don't understand the science or stats of it all depending on whether they come from Arts or Science. There aren't many who can do both...just sayin'.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
Re-apply through VTAC after you take nice holiday; you sound like you need one.
They are compulsory for the Psych Major. That is just what i've deduced from the handbook.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
Re-apply through VTAC after you take nice holiday; you sound like you need one.
They are compulsory for the Psych Major. That is just what i've deduced from the handbook.
I have no idea because I always intended on doing both but if I don't have both credited and could still do the major that would be nice.
It's not like I didn't learn the material. And get some nice letters telling me how awesome I am and how much they would value my continuation of a psychology major.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
Re-apply through VTAC after you take nice holiday; you sound like you need one.
They are compulsory for the Psych Major. That is just what i've deduced from the handbook.
I have no idea because I always intended on doing both but if I don't have both credited and could still do the major that would be nice.
It's not like I didn't learn the material. And get some nice letters telling me how awesome I am and how much they would value my continuation of a psychology major.
What do you enjoy studying the very most? i.e. What have your favourite subjects been?
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
Re-apply through VTAC after you take nice holiday; you sound like you need one.
They are compulsory for the Psych Major. That is just what i've deduced from the handbook.
I have no idea because I always intended on doing both but if I don't have both credited and could still do the major that would be nice.
It's not like I didn't learn the material. And get some nice letters telling me how awesome I am and how much they would value my continuation of a psychology major.
What do you enjoy studying the very most? i.e. What have your favourite subjects been?
At the moment I have been stuck in the worst course so Psychology has been my favourite subject but in high school Biology and Chemistry were my favourite subjects.
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Okay no, sorry for the double post but I'm serious Russ I don't know what to do and I have to decide by tomorrow because neither vtac or melbourne uni will be able to help me on the weekend. Tomorrow is also my first day of a new job.
TALK ABOUT A STRESSFEST.
Anyway what do I do, do I apply for an irregular offer for science? I'm so unsure about a medicine pathway because it's hard to do/I don't know if I definitely want to be a doctor. And I don't want to do essays anymore so screw that. So I guess the best plan was always the more flexible one that I had rejected.
But I don't know what happens with my credit, I got this email that wasn't even addressed to me, it was addressed to 'Mr. Wilkin' and about how I (or him?) could send in this form by the 31st saying what major I wanted to do and they would choose what subjects to credit me appropriately. But then if I decided I didn't want to major in psychology while in first year does that mean I am locked out of doing like, anything else that would require subjects I could no longer fit in? That is, if I sent in the form saying I intend to major in psychology and they credit me for my psych subjects then and there, what would happen to a major like Animal Health where you need Physics (which I did not do in VCE) to do one of the subjects you need for the Vetinary Bioscience major. Because I would have no room, if I did Biologyx2 and Chemistryx2. I would have already done eight subjects with the advanced standing included.
OH. MY. GOD.
Gap year.
I cannot even. My course can't be deferred.
Wait you probably know. To major in psych do you have to have done both MBB1 and MBB2? Or just one of them? Because I have done both but if I am only credited one that would leave room for the shitty Physics.
Re-apply through VTAC after you take nice holiday; you sound like you need one.
They are compulsory for the Psych Major. That is just what i've deduced from the handbook.
I have no idea because I always intended on doing both but if I don't have both credited and could still do the major that would be nice.
It's not like I didn't learn the material. And get some nice letters telling me how awesome I am and how much they would value my continuation of a psychology major.
What do you enjoy studying the very most? i.e. What have your favourite subjects been?
At the moment I have been stuck in the worst course so Psychology has been my favourite subject but in high school Biology and Chemistry were my favourite subjects.
Doctor seems like the way to go?
Gap year/transfer + UMAT
or
Transfer + MD.
Judging by the nature of your posts, you should take a few days to relax and get your mind off of all your academic worries. That way, you can come back to it and approach it with a clearer and healthier mind.
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Well I already have an offer to biomed but considering my current state of uncertainty I don't know whether I should apply for an irregular offer to science.
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Well if you take the offer to biomed can you then apply for an irregular offer and get the best of both worlds?
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Tis the plan.
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You can study vet without the veterinary bioscience major, it just takes 4 years instead.
As for psych, they will only look at second level psych subjects (~20%) and all third level subjects (~80%). There were about 1200 applicants this year for 70 or so places...
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I applied for an irregular offer.
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Mavis If I were you id take a gap year to study the umat then apply for UG med
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Nah I think a BSc is her best bet, she's not sure what she wants. And Monash won't take her, so she'd have to go interstate to do UG med
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Ew states other than Victoria ew.
Anyway my irregular offer was approved. SO now I am fairly sure I have to wait till the second round to be offered the place in Science? And then I accept that? Is that how this business goes down?
Edit: Russ, when you find out where your group is meeting for orientation tell me and I will pretend I can't find my group.
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I don't know how it goes down, I just got a 1st round offer and accepted haha
and my group will be meeting on Grattan st, just outside the med building.
this is what the O week host lady said when I asked about stealing other people
In the end, we can't stop anyone from joining a different group than the one they were assigned to!
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Yeah I transferred groups last year because I literally couldn't find mine and then I did find it later which was unfair because the first group was much cooler than my real one. My real one was really awkward and the host was all 'lol you might get one H1 a year if you're lucky' and I was all 'um, okay you fucking slacker how did they even let you be any sort of mentor?'.
And then for the 'meet up' he was all 'oh soz lol can't make it today sorry guise'. Good.
Anyway, the moral of this story is: pick your own group.
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Yes, pick your own group. If you meet people and they're in a different group, jump ship. Also, make sure your leader is good (like me). If you get someone who speaks softly and you can't understand them GET OUT NOW
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Yeah I transferred groups last year because I literally couldn't find mine and then I did find it later which was unfair because the first group was much cooler than my real one. My real one was really awkward and the host was all 'lol you might get one H1 a year if you're lucky' and I was all 'um, okay you fucking slacker how did they even let you be any sort of mentor?'.
And then for the 'meet up' he was all 'oh soz lol can't make it today sorry guise'. Good.
Anyway, the moral of this story is: pick your own group.
The nerve on that guy! lol
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Ask your leader when Sherry Party is. If they can't answer, find a new one. Rinse and repeat as necessary. ;)
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Wat colour balloooon?
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I don't know how it goes down, I just got a 1st round offer and accepted haha
and my group will be meeting on Grattan st, just outside the med building.
this is what the O week host lady said when I asked about stealing other people
In the end, we can't stop anyone from joining a different group than the one they were assigned to!
I'm so jumping to your group, ha.
Seems like a safe bet.
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Arts students, ugh :P
And balloons...I think white but I won't find out until the actual day
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IF YOU JUMP TO A SCIENCE GROUP you will have the best time, everyone will be like 'what the fuck why are you here' because typically you are forced to answer questions like 'what major are you planning on taking?'.
Actually you can still slip under the radar with psychology.
But I dare you to say something like cultural studies.
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IF YOU JUMP TO A SCIENCE GROUP you will have the best time, everyone will be like 'what the fuck why are you here' because typically you are forced to answer questions like 'what major are you planning on taking?'.
Actually you can still slip under the radar with psychology.
But I dare you to say something like cultural studies.
hahaha
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Cultural studies would get you weird looks in an arts group, they're all majoring in one of history/english/psychology or politics
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My friend is majoring in cultural studies. What the hell.
Those things and a lot of 'Media and Communications' majors will pop up this year because it's integrated into Arts for 2011.
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The lecturer for HPS was terrible.
Turned me off the subject.
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The lecturer for HPS was terrible.
Turned me off the subject.
lololol. after 2 mins I walked out and went to something else it was that shit!
I saw you haha. And I fucked up and said you were Zach instead of Sean. :P
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The lecturer for HPS was terrible.
Turned me off the subject.
lololol. after 2 mins I walked out and went to something else it was that shit!
I saw you haha. And I fucked up and said you were Zach instead of Sean. :P
You were that bitch nice male in the grey hoodie with loppol, right?
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The lecturer for HPS was terrible.
Turned me off the subject.
lololol. after 2 mins I walked out and went to something else it was that shit!
I saw you haha. And I fucked up and said you were Zach instead of Sean. :P
You were that bitch nice male in the grey hoodie with loppol, right?
Yeah!!!
I recognized you right away from your fb photo, but I couldn't remember your name haha...
even though it is clearly displayed everywhere.
/facepalm :P
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The lecturer for HPS was terrible.
Turned me off the subject.
lololol. after 2 mins I walked out and went to something else it was that shit!
I saw you haha. And I fucked up and said you were Zach instead of Sean. :P
You were that bitch nice male in the grey hoodie with loppol, right?
Yeah!!!
I recognized you right away from your fb photo, but I couldn't remember your name haha...
even though it is clearly displayed everywhere.
/facepalm :P
Well I had no idea that you guys were VNers until loppol was all like
"!!!111 OMFG ARE YOIU SEAN @#$%%#@ IM ANDREWLOPPOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!11111"
Haha.
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Okay, so I have a new, very related, question.
Do you think they count 'third year subjects' as LEVEL 3 subjects you do throughout your course, or simply the subjects you take in your third year?
If it is the latter, I could see this being abused quite easily, by taking lots of level 1 subjects in third year to secure easy H1s and thus a smashing average for that year, which is weighted most heavily.
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Third year subjects generally refers to subjects taken in your third year. Some people will attempt to abuse it by taking an extra level 1 subject but given that there's a cap on total level 1 subjects and the fact that you're going to have to take a major, you can't just pack 8 level 1 subjects into third year
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Third year subjects generally refers to subjects taken in your third year. Some people will attempt to abuse it by taking an extra level 1 subject but given that there's a cap on total level 1 subjects and the fact that you're going to have to take a major, you can't just pack 8 level 1 subjects into third year
How many level 1 subjects are you allowed to take throughout your degree?
In my third year, 4/8 subjects will be level 3 psych ones, so as to complete my major.
Could I not choose level 1 subjects for the other 4, effectively making 50% of my third year MUCH easier?
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What other 1st year subjects are you planning on taking? You can't take breadth or you'd be over the limit, you have to take elective subjects which aren't necessarily easy.
Anyway, the limit is 10 1st year subjects according to everyone who's ever mentioned it. So 8 first year, plus some leeway
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What other 1st year subjects are you planning on taking? You can't take breadth or you'd be over the limit, you have to take elective subjects which aren't necessarily easy.
Anyway, the limit is 10 1st year subjects according to everyone who's ever mentioned it. So 8 first year, plus some leeway
Well, i'll be doing 8 first year, most certainly. And I can't take breadth in third year, as my psych electives take over those places(because they're too non-artsy, apparently).
So, if I structured everything well, I could do a level 1 subject in my third year each semester, in one of the 'easier' arts disciplines. That being said, I could fill the other spots with level 2 subjects, which would still be decreasing the difficulty.
This is all hypothetical, by the way. I'm not sure those who decide who gets into honours would look too kindly upon people who abuse it like this?
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What? How are subjects for your major being organised as breadth? Sounds like the arts faculty didn't think that one through...
You can try to take lower level subjects but by that point you'll probably want to do interesting subjects, not easy ones. I looked at taking some easy subjects and none of them are that interesting (also 2nd year subjects can get fairly hard)
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What? How are subjects for your major being organised as breadth? Sounds like the arts faculty didn't think that one through...
You can try to take lower level subjects but by that point you'll probably want to do interesting subjects, not easy ones. I looked at taking some easy subjects and none of them are that interesting (also 2nd year subjects can get fairly hard)
Maybe they do it because later Psych subjects are increasingly sciencey? Or because it is a 125 pt major, and thus it needs to take the place of breadth in final year? I don't really know. It's annoying, as it means i can't do the pre-reqs for MD.
Yeah, I guess so. I'm not saying Level 2 subjects will be EASY; i'm saying they should be less difficult than Level 3 subjects.
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As I have completely no idea, does anyone know what a psychology prac involves? :-[
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As I have completely no idea, does anyone know what a psychology prac involves? :-[
If you're doing MBB1, the psych pracs are actually tutorials. I don't really know why they're called pracs. You don't get to do any experiments in them (well, you might have to do one or two things, but they're pretty basic and you may have even done them in VCE) but you do participate in research, but that's something separate.
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As I have completely no idea, does anyone know what a psychology prac involves? :-[
If you're doing MBB1, the psych pracs are actually tutorials. I don't really know why they're called pracs. You don't get to do any experiments in them (well, you might have to do one or two things, but they're pretty basic and you may have even done them in VCE) but you do participate in research, but that's something separate.
Ah that makes more sense as it did seem strange to me that the class is classified as a 'practical'. Also with the prac/tute/whatever is it, is it best to have it before or after the lectures, or does it not matter at all?
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As I have completely no idea, does anyone know what a psychology prac involves? :-[
If you're doing MBB1, the psych pracs are actually tutorials. I don't really know why they're called pracs. You don't get to do any experiments in them (well, you might have to do one or two things, but they're pretty basic and you may have even done them in VCE) but you do participate in research, but that's something separate.
Ah that makes more sense as it did seem strange to me that the class is classified as a 'practical'. Also with the prac/tute/whatever is it, is it best to have it before or after the lectures, or does it not matter at all?
Does not matter at all. You cover different material in tutorials that's normally separate to lectures.
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Doesn't matter whatsoever.