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Title: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Dedicated on July 04, 2013, 10:50:19 pm
Random after this semester I realised im going to focus more on sports. Really want to get into professional soccer. If you follow your passion with heart then you will succeed.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: golden on July 04, 2013, 10:51:34 pm
Random after this semester I realised im going to focus more on sports. Really want to get into professional soccer. If you follow your passion with heart then you will succeed.

Cool. Are you half decent?
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Dedicated on July 04, 2013, 10:55:24 pm
Yay fitness wise. I can do 1.5km in 5min on treadmill. Skill wise I can improve but am decent. Done soccer boxing tennis and gym. I love soccer now though requires fitness and smart thinking.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: pi on July 04, 2013, 10:58:42 pm
Split, excuse the wordplay
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: golden on July 04, 2013, 11:00:07 pm
^^ Hahahahaha you are such a legend you know that right. Let's legitimately observe how long this thread lasts.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Dedicated on July 04, 2013, 11:02:51 pm
Hey semester  1 fitness results. I dont see how I was off topic  :P
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: simpak on July 04, 2013, 11:04:05 pm
This is my favourite thread of all time.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: golden on July 04, 2013, 11:05:24 pm
Simpak do you want to play soccer next semester?
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: DisaFear on July 04, 2013, 11:05:49 pm
What do you mean by going 'professional'? Do you want to play for the Socceroos? What level do you play at now?
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: simpak on July 04, 2013, 11:06:01 pm
I don't run.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: golden on July 04, 2013, 11:06:44 pm
Goalkeeper.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Dedicated on July 04, 2013, 11:10:51 pm
Best site for soccer stuff. http://www.soccerpro.com/ internationally hopefully
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Leronziia on July 04, 2013, 11:38:37 pm
Getting in on the physical action. I powerlift, don't plan to ever go professional, but it's something I love doing at least 5 times a week.

Never made it past representing league in junior Aussie rules football, starting pre-season now for a return next year hopefully.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: spectroscopy on July 04, 2013, 11:58:54 pm
can you go from uni -> club  soccer in australia ?  :o
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Genericname2365 on July 05, 2013, 12:00:01 am
Split, excuse the wordplay
It took me a disturbingly long time to get this joke...
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Yeezus on July 05, 2013, 12:00:09 am
With no disrespect, but if you are over the age of 18 and have never had a professional contract, you will never play international soccer.

To become a professional soccer player (on the international stage), you need 10,000 hours of practise before you turn 16, which is about 20 hours of practise a week from age of 6. It is a highly competitive industry. On top of this you need a lot of talent, a lot of connections, a lot of luck and a lot more luck.

When you train for these insane hours from the young age, high chance that your joints wear out/get injuries which set you back.

I had about 3 friends I played with as a junior sign professional youth contracts, one of them (Jamie Maclaren) is on track to make it as a professional.

On top of this, you need amazing genetics. I'm sorry to say this, but it just can't be done. You need years and years of honing your skills and improving your physical fitness to the point where you're insane at it.

As a simple diagnostic, go out and see how many juggles of the ball you can make without dropping the ball, almost all professionals can juggle the ball for at least 1 hour without dropping it and if not for tiredness could go on for days.

It is insanely difficult to make it as a professional soccer player from Australia because we are so far behind Europe/South America.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: simpak on July 05, 2013, 12:09:18 am
Don't listen to him Dedicated, all you need is heart.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: spectroscopy on July 05, 2013, 12:13:10 am
With no disrespect, but if you are over the age of 18 and have never had a professional contract, you will never play international soccer.

To become a professional soccer player (on the international stage), you need 10,000 hours of practise before you turn 16, which is about 20 hours of practise a week from age of 6. It is a highly competitive industry. On top of this you need a lot of talent, a lot of connections, a lot of luck and a lot more luck.

When you train for these insane hours from the young age, high chance that your joints wear out/get injuries which set you back.

I had about 3 friends I played with as a junior sign professional youth contracts, one of them (Jamie Maclaren) is on track to make it as a professional.


you dont have to sign a pro contract before youre 16, most pro players didnt ! drogba didnt get a contract until he was 21 !

its just that if you start playing too late when your motor neurons start to prune themselves in adolescence it gets harder and harder to pick up the really technical skills and fluidity that (most) soccer players need, as well as watching the game for ages to know when/where to run and that sort of thing

i think if you have played A grade soccer for three or more years before youre 16, or APS first XI soccer for like two years, and just quit for a while because of studying or whatever, you can get fit enough to play

Mladen Bartolović is a member of the Bosian NT. He did not play soccer until he was 16. and ian wright played sunday league soccer until his 22nd birthday




but the odds are you wont go pro
but how funny would it be if we all did and in a press conference we mentioned this thread as motivation and all realised we're secretly AN buddies weve never met in person, then win the world cup for australia
yay
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: abcdqdxD on July 05, 2013, 12:21:29 am
Look at Sasa Ognenovski. Few years ago, he was only playing Victorian League (part-time) and worked as a tradie. Look at him now. Representing Australia. Named best AFC player. Going to a world cup.

Don't let anyone tell you what you can't do.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: scribble on July 05, 2013, 12:26:15 am
It took me a disturbingly long time to get this joke...
...i've stared at it for the last couple of minutes and still dont get it. Q____________Q
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: spectroscopy on July 05, 2013, 12:52:34 am
...i've stared at it for the last couple of minutes and still dont get it. Q____________Q

same someone please explain
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: psyxwar on July 05, 2013, 01:02:21 am
same someone please explain
double entendre with his username
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: Yeezus on July 05, 2013, 10:26:59 am
Look at Sasa Ognenovski. Few years ago, he was only playing Victorian League (part-time) and worked as a tradie. Look at him now. Representing Australia. Named best AFC player. Going to a world cup.

Don't let anyone tell you what you can't do.

The Victorian league is not easy at all to play in. And Sasa Ogenovski was playing in the national league at age 21, he then transferred to the Greek first league, suffered an injury, spent two seasons in a Victorian club and was then again in the national league.

I said you need 10,000 hours of practise by 16, not a professional contract by 16, anyway, that figure was if you want to make it to the highest level of football.

I'm not so much deterring you from your task, just trying to make you realise this is an enormous mountain to climb and it takes so much practise to do what the professionals do. I mean you have to understand, in a lot of European and South American countries, the way out of poverty is dribbling a football, these kids work from the moment they are born to play for some of these clubs.

Imagine a bloke who dropped out of  school in grade 1 now comes to a university and says, 'I'm going to get 100 in this semester in every subject', that's about as tough as it is.

And you cannot compare Drogba signing his first professional contract at 21, he was in an elite French youth set-up at the time. Yes he was a late bloomer, but he still received and expert football education, something we don't have in Australia, which is why if you're good enough to make it internationally in Australia, you'd have signed a professional contract by 18 with one of the A-League clubs.


I'll put it to you this way, it's a lot more difficult representing Australian national soccer team than getting an ATAR of 99.95, that's for sure.


Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: golden on July 05, 2013, 10:33:52 am
If you are less than age 20, you still have a chance, just practice soccer 24/7 for 1.14 years = 10,000 hours. There's still time hurry.

Edit:
Spoiler
I assume all here are older than 16 though so getting 10,000 hours before 16 seems a bit late.
Title: Re: "Dedicated" to play soccer next semester
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on July 05, 2013, 10:34:35 am
If you are less than age 20, you still have a chance, just practice soccer 24/7 for 1.14 years = 10,000 hours. There's still time hurry.


LOL!!!!!