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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2020, 10:37:18 pm »
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2020, 01:30:53 am »
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UPDATE: Just started using Notion as a central hub for my anatomy notes/sem 2 notes(it's really intuitive). I'll also be storing my daily to-do lists there - I usually make the lists on small sticky notes and will continue to do so, but I'll store them digitally as well for future reference. This'll hopefully make revision super easier then and allow me to use my precious workbook space for scribbles/notes/exercises etc

I used to take all my notes physically and still will, but only as rough notes/sketches/scribbles (super into those); I'll collate all those in Notion for when I revise later on.
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2020, 09:02:41 pm »
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UPDATE: Just started using Notion as a central hub for my anatomy notes/sem 2 notes(it's really intuitive). I'll also be storing my daily to-do lists there - I usually make the lists on small sticky notes and will continue to do so, but I'll store them digitally as well for future reference. This'll hopefully make revision super easier then and allow me to use my precious workbook space for scribbles/notes/exercises etc

I used to take all my notes physically and still will, but only as rough notes/sketches/scribbles (super into those); I'll collate all those in Notion for when I revise later on.

Welcome to the bandwagon. I rate notion.

I know you didn't ask, but I thought this could be useful to you and anyone else reading. A notion database that was really helpful for me last semester was something I called the ‘tracker’.

It was essentially a notion database where I listed every class I had alongside labelling

- What week it was in
- What type of class it was (ICL/Tutorial/AL/Lecture)
- The topic of the class
- Priority/yield

And then I had 3 tick boxes

- Whether I've planned out when I intend to work on it
- Whether I've made notes on it
- Whether I've made anki flashcards on it

I found this was SUPER useful in tracking the overwhelming amount of activities. Here's an image of this for my first week of sem 2.



ETA: Forum sizing makes it look terrible. Here's the link if you want to see it normal size https://i.imgur.com/WOrcRBM.png
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2020, 08:03:56 pm »
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Welcome to the bandwagon. I rate notion.

I know you didn't ask, but I thought this could be useful to you and anyone else reading. A notion database that was really helpful for me last semester was something I called the ‘tracker’.

It was essentially a notion database where I listed every class I had alongside labelling

- What week it was in
- What type of class it was (ICL/Tutorial/AL/Lecture)
- The topic of the class
- Priority/yield

And then I had 3 tick boxes

- Whether I've planned out when I intend to work on it
- Whether I've made notes on it
- Whether I've made anki flashcards on it

I found this was SUPER useful in tracking the overwhelming amount of activities. Here's an image of this for my first week of sem 2.

(Image removed from quote.)

ETA: Forum sizing makes it look terrible. Here's the link if you want to see it normal size https://i.imgur.com/WOrcRBM.png

Absolutely mad - thank you so much. First two days (lol) of sem so far have been pretty overwhelming, I've been trying to log every class + related notes in standard "note"-form on Notion which is pretty janky. This should be a good way of organising all the classes.

Unrelated note: First anatomy tute today, pretty overwhelming. Lots of nomenclature, definitely more 'competitive' than say, clin. skills (seems like everyone knows everything except me), but she'll be right with enough organised study I reckon.
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2020, 08:34:45 pm »
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Absolutely mad - thank you so much. First two days (lol) of sem so far have been pretty overwhelming, I've been trying to log every class + related notes in standard "note"-form on Notion which is pretty janky. This should be a good way of organising all the classes.

Unrelated note: First anatomy tute today, pretty overwhelming. Lots of nomenclature, definitely more 'competitive' than say, clin. skills (seems like everyone knows everything except me), but she'll be right with enough organised study I reckon.

Haha yeah, I tried note-taking on notion but ended up sticking to word because that platform is just much more powerful in terms of flexibility.

The initial shock of anatomy is pretty brutal but you'll get used to it. The best thing you can do for yourself is pre-learn before classes otherwise you'll just be left there blank-faced not understanding anything. Gray's anatomy for students is an excellent textbook to refer to for this as it breaks down and organises areas such as upper limb very nicely. Not the atlas, specifically the 'anatomy for students' one. If you can't get your hands on it PM me.

Best get used to feeling other people know everything except you. Everyone feels like this from time to time, even those who seem 'on top of it'. You're working alongside some very smart cookies. The ultimate aim is to help each other become good doctors ;).
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2020, 10:12:58 am »
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2020, 02:30:48 pm »
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Mid-week update:

Getting used to the shock of anatomy. I'm adjusting; the tracker's helped, and pre-reading was also immensely helpful for a tutor. Should've done this earlier because I read ahead in VCE and that helped. Am relatively fine with the brachial plexus now.

EDIT: Just did PACA which is like an anatomy Kahoot tutorial. It's mad fun, tutors are super supportive & everyone's asking question like rapid-fire. Most importantly I've learnt a ton from this because everyone makes their own mistakes rather than choosing to ask the questions in front of everyone (no awkward silences). It's such a big contrast to Tuesday's specimens tute because I feel like in PACA everyone's making mistakes & answering questions where else in specimens it's more about who gets pimped by the tutors lol. Maybe that's just my own observation. Anyway, gonna study joints and bone landmarks now and write up my Anki cards. Feeling confident about muscles & brachial plexus now.

Sleep schedule's also back to normal, sleep at 12am, wake up at 9am. Getting lots of work in morning done now and less procrastination (probably because of the load of content). Only issue is that my diet's very ... questionable atm.

There's more I'll write about on Sunday. Take care
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2020, 09:13:24 pm »
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Good first week back.

The first half of this week was pretty overwhelming. It was definitely a huge struggle getting used to the initial punch of anatomy (of muscles, bones, movements of upper limb) and 4 consecutive hours of tutes was quite a slog. Nevertheless I've learnt some key information which I've absorbed quickly, not just pertaining to anatomical terminology but also to clinical skills. I can confidently do a systemic & musculoskeletal systems review after having practised a few times which is nice. There were some lectures on physiology (how alpha neurons cause muscle contraction -- I'm fairly confident in how it works), epidemiology/population health (only introductory lectures though so not enough to really talk about) and HEP (self-care program that people make fun of, I think it's neat, maybe that's because I'm weird though). Anatomy has overshadowed all of those.

I had a 4 hour Zoom sesh with friends from the cohort where we quizzed each other/ran through tute work/gave explanations on areas we were missing today as well, which was fantastic. The time flew by.
Since we covered so much however, I'm not sure if I can retain all of it and I'm feeling a bit uneasy with how much detail I need to remember. I'm not sure whether I should commit to detail or clinical application of anatomy.

Although I've hit around 2 hours' average study a day, out-of-class studying has been a bit unstructured; I haven't stuck to my 25 minute blocks as much but I have been pulling undisturbed concentrated sessions after tutes to formalise my "messy" notes into neat, presentable versions on, as well as doing labelling that I missed out on during tutes. Maybe it's the urgency/load of the content that just pressures me to concentrate. I think as the sem continues, I'll settle into structured study. I haven't been sticking to Anki cards as much as last sem -- mostly this week it's been labelling my anatomy textbook (henceforth M&D's) and less making Anki cards and studying them. Still, I'm retaining content well -- I'm confident about but quite a few details elude me. I'm not entirely confident about clinical applications of anatomy (eg. fractures of humerus, clavicle, dislocations of the shoulder joint) which is concerning because that's a way to apply my knowledge and it's supposedly what they'll test on the exam (M&D's blue boxes, those are fun to read). I've retained some knowledge on Erb's & Klumpke's palsies (sort-of paralyses of the arm due to damage to roots) which I'm happy with. I haven't gotten around to reading about physical exams for muscles (I know how to test for normal functioning of the lats from reading a paragraph of M&D's and that's it) which I'll do after this and maybe tomorrow too, since I have a bit of free time tomorrow. It's pre-reading for Tuesday's tute anyway.

Mental health has not been good; I've realised how really bad my anxiety is this week. Earlier in the week faculty released scores for a midsem formative exam to show us we were doing as fine as last years' cohort but I saw that my score placed me in the bottom 25%. Not good, but then again, I did that exam before I revised my sem's content and the exam opened multiple times during the semester (is that an excuse?). Realising I scored so low also gave me a hard bout of impostor syndrome. Friends also pointed out I had a panic attack (not a panic attack by my standards though) in our study sesh today when I got worried about the level of detail of anatomy we needed to know. I'm aware now that the stuff we're learning now is just a stepping stone to applying it later clinically ... I think?
I should see my uni doc for a referral but he knows I'm a medical student and may brush me off. Who knows. Just want to get it out of the way before I start work.

For context, I think I have some sort of chronic anxiety disorder (I've never been diagnosed but a lot of people over the past 5 years have told me to "stop stressing", "stop being a worrywart", I've had panic attacks at school).

Sleep is all good now.

Outside of uni I haven't been up to much. Snuck in a three hours' of Final Fantasy to stream for mates on Friday and been having meetings with the Cancer Case group -- our work is slowly getting there but we're behind schedule and it's a bit tough being able to cram our research and model into the allocated slide/word count we've been given. It's tough since our model is a little bit here-and-there but we've all agreed that the knowledge we've gained is a lot regardless. Learnt about the psychosocial issues cancer survivors face (like fear of recurrence, distress), how care for (rural) cancer survivors is mostly from friends/family rather than from social workers or healthcare providers. Learnt about importance of fostering independence in cancer survivors -- supposedly it decreases distress but the research says it may be a multidirectional relationship. It's been great learning to read research articles and recognising the methods of study (eg. qualitative vs quantitative) or limitations as well as structure. Plus I've been able to have nice conversations with the other group members - that's always a plus.

Looking cautiously forward to next week -- it's got fewer tutes because our learning that week is "asynchronous" so we have to do it on our own.
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2020, 07:43:42 pm »
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Short and sweet post this week because I'm a little bit tired.

Continued anatomy this week -- we moved "inferiorly" and studied the forearm & arm (elbow joint, muscles, innervation etc). Surprisingly there was a lot of revision of the shoulder joint and there'll be a revision week next week to catch up, so that's nice. Other highlights were physiology of the muscles and how muscle contraction occurs -- really intuitive (I love our physiology lecture, he deserves another post) and easy to apply to weightlifting/exercise. Also did clinical content -- we learnt how to perform inspections, examinations and tests on peoples' shoulder areas -- which was a mess because it's so hard to learn examinations via Zoom. I practised exams on my dad and realised I needed to know why these tests are being performed (also remembering how to do them is already hard, the only ones I truly remember are the painful arc and bicep flexion test)

In terms of studying I've found my groove I think -- reading the clinical sections of the textbook, then using conditions to "consolidate" content seems to be the best for me (eg. damage to the median (anterior interosseous) nerve paralyses the flexor digitorum profundus & flexor pollicis longus and prevents flexion of the DIP and thumb joint. this is how I remember that FDP and FPL respectively flex the finger joints and the thumb joint). Drawing and annotating diagrams/images has also really helped, but I need a computer stylus so I can do it digitally too (I've been doing it on "scrap" paper and on my textbook). Also, what I've been doing is thinking about movements & anatomy in regards to lifting -- eg. in a shoulder press, your shoulder joint abducts and scapula elevates (correct me if I'm wrong). Researching the etymology of muscles has also allowed me to better remember names and purposes -- so the flexor digitorum superficialis is the "superficial flexor of the digits" (try putting your fingers in a claw) and extensor pollicis longus is "long extensor of the thumb" etc.. Honestly I don't think terminology could be any better, it's quite intuitive (if I said that in front of Year 12 me he'd think I'm mad).
All of this has helped a lot, and musculature, tendons are what I'm comfortable with (vasculature, not so much). The names are the least of my worries now, it's just about remembering the clinical applications I think.

Having the Sunday study sesh has also helped to consolidate content and has been a nice time to just catch up and chat which is honestly something that's been a rarity in iso. We ask each other questions and clarify confusing parts of the course which is a godsend and really leverages that "teaching is the best way to learn" idea. Also I think I'm kind of annoying because I keep talking about Moore & Dalley's blue boxes lol. Moore & Dalley's Clinically Oriented Anatomy can honestly have my children.

I've stopped using Anki pretty much (only making cards now). Maybe I should bring it back in to augment my current studying, but right now I prefer more visual methods like annotating diagrams, drawing diagrams etc. (whenever I see a hand I try to annotate which joints are which so I can better imagine it since I'm a visual learner).

Also had my first meeting with my mentor for med and we had a nice chat. She's also into writing and is also submitting something for the Auricle, plus she's into medicine for the same reason - the human element and interacting with people. We discussed about clubs which made me really think about the first years who didn't join clubs and might be a bit lost socially -- I know I was lucky and got into a club via an old HS friend.

Apart from that my group finally finished our UCCC presentation. I got the vibe all of us were getting burnt out by it but we're friends now. Submitting it and collaborating on the project was a good feeling and it definitely taught me something about teamwork, referencing and . Most importantly it's been the catalyst for me using Notion, which has really improved my note-taking and organisation - having all my to-dos in the same place as my timetable and notes is great. Only issue is that typing will never beat pen and paper.

That's it. Take care, have a good week.
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2020, 07:45:32 pm »
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Every single time I saw "this'll be short and sweet" I end up taking 30 minutes to write it. Wew

Also if I might add. This week was asynchronous so most of the activities we had to do independently. Frankly I didn't like this method -- there was less opportunity to ask questions (which is also good)  -- and it was easier to delay/procrastinate (eg. I'll do the activity tonight..). As much as I despise Zoom, I prefer the normal Zoom tutes (and being scared about the tutors pimping me eek)
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2020, 08:40:12 pm »
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Definitely recommend seeing a GP to discuss your mental health. First year uni in particular is usually a huge stressor (without having a global pandemic...add that into the mix and of course your mental health will be impacted!) and is often a time when people reach a mental health crisis (speaking from personal experience here). When I spoke to my GP about my MH issues I found them really understanding (and they knew the stress of studying a course in the health sector). Take care of yourself x

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« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2020, 08:52:57 am »
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Mid-week update.

Opened up to my tutor about my mental health issues and she was really nice and supportive about it. Also finally booked an appointment with my uni GP and he was surprisingly sensitive about the topic too. Gonna undergo some screening tests next week and then work our way from there.
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2020, 08:08:46 pm »
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It's scary that we're already through 1/4 of the Sem. Anatomy of the upper limb has been fully covered.

This week there happened to be no anatomy lectures, which was great for catching up. On Tuesday in specimens they were asking for call-outs of certain muscles and it was actually pretty shocking how I was able to recall them so easily despite being overwhelmed like 2 weeks ago. Apart from that there was a pharmacology lecture, slides on adolescent development (ie. physical changes, social, friendships, risky behaviours, pathologies like obesity) which I found very interesting to read through (can't find the prescribed textbook for it though). There was also a microbiology lecture that was unremarkable.

We had clinical skills this week and that was really overwhelming. Examination of the elbow (alright), wrist (really tough palpating all the carpal bones) and hand (haven't practised this one yet). Hopefully I can grasp it soon enough for whatever exams they might hold soon this year.

No innovations in studying technique. Just trucking on as per usual. I noticed I've stopped using pomodoros as much (did 2x1 hour blocks on Saturday and a couple of 25 mins here and there) so it's harder to record how long I study. Instead I've been using the learning objectives provided by the uni as a scaffold/marker of my progress. Reading on clinical conditions as per usual has allowed me to more easily remember anatomy. For example, this week has had a lot of emphasis on Carpal Tunnel Syndrome and it's helped me to remember which areas of the skin/muscles the median nerve innervates (eg. a severe symptom of CTS is wasting of the thenar muscles below the thumb. Since CTS is compression of the median nerve that's how I can remember that the median nerve innervates the thenar muscles).

Thinking about studying anatomy has also made me less neurotic about the whole deal. The knowledge that I'm not expected to know every single detail and every pathology about it makes me feel more secure about my own knowledge. Sure, I guess it's put less pressure on me to study but I feel better about not knowing things and I'm pretty sure mental health > academics. I'd rather take being told by the tutor to "go do your reading" over having panic attacks right now, because I can always alleviate the former. And the awareness that there's always someone who knows more than me is pretty relieving because I view anatomy more as something constructive rather than a competition (not like I'm good enough to compete either).

Outside of uni nothing really major has happened. Such is socially-distanced life. Some friends and I agreed about how the memories of standout conversations we have are usually anchored in a context -- like an event, place, time -- but now that they occupy the same online space as the mundane conversations, they kind of just blend into that iso blur that people keep talking about. And it really feels that way -- I can't remember anything special about the past 4 months or so, just what I studied, even though I've had some key conversations in that time. I also picked up chess and dragged my friends into it, and even though I always lose, it's good fun and a relaxing way to unwind after tutes. My openings are usually good but I tend to make stupid moves where I let my queen or rook get sniped and it's downhill from there.

I have an appointment with my GP next week and I'm excited mainly because I can finally go through my anxiety with a professional and begin to get things sorted out. Being able to talk to someone about it has made me feel a lot better. Just the catharsis of not having to repress things is great.

Next week is really chill. No anatomy at all, just revision lectures/tutes. Introduction to rural health which is interesting, I remember an older student telling me he actually got to suture in his rural rotations which sounds cool. And the idea of there being fewer people, just you and an attending sounds chill (provided they're not a dick lol).

That's it for the week. Take care.
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2020, 09:34:13 pm »
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Minor update.

Got a psych appointment scheduled out but it's a far way away. And I can't help feeling like a fraud constantly and undeserving of my spot right now. It's a deep-rooted issue and I'll try and ride this out for the next few weeks.

A friend got me to download Flora which is basically an app that locks your phone and logs your study period. I've been aware of this sort of app (Forest, which some of my friends use) but never used it. But now that I have it, I've felt more driven to work, managed to clock in 2.5 hours and get some prep for a clinical practice sesh tomo (could be 3 but I want to work out). I feel motivated because I'm trying to follow the lead followed by a friend who studies a lot (I'd call him a beast but I'm wary of idolising people) and in this case it's like looking up to someone and trying to follow their good example rather than trying to compete with them. It's like constructive/realistic comparisons. And I like that the app is objective about time spent studying rather than self-reported. It's pretty cool.

Also my diet is absolute trash, I think I'm gonna cut out all the processed carbs I started eating unmindfully when lockdown 2.0 started. I don't mind eating at a surplus but as long as it's not empty calories like it is now. Dunno how though
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Re: Just a guy in med school
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2020, 10:00:29 pm »
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Hey!! I've been reading your journal and I wanted to pop in and say that your journal has been a great read, and you're very very inspiring not just for prospecting med students but also people who are too afraid to reach out for help when they need it  ;D
In regards to changing your diet, check out Poet's amazing article: https://atarnotes.com/forum/index.php?topic=180555.0

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