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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #405 on: July 29, 2014, 11:01:41 pm »
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There's no set structure for a body paragraph beyond the very basic TEEL framework, but you should be going further than that anyway. It depends on your text; sometimes Views and Values statements can be good in your T.S. or concluding link, or the prompt might lend itself better to discussions about various characters and themes. I don't really want to prescribe a format since there's dozens of different ways to do it right. Basically this is one of those things where you shouldn't try to radically change your style, just modify it. Check out the English sample works directory to see how some people went about it.
At the bare minimum, I'd say you should be quoting four times per paragraph (unless you write page-long paragraphs like me :P in which case that number is probably closer to 7 or 8.) But there are countless essays that could score a perfect 10 whilst being stingy with the quotes, but analysing things closely all the same. Ironically your teacher telling you you're not specific enough, isn't specific enough. Is it a problem with the examples you chose being underdeveloped, or is it about how you're using them and linking them to your discussion? Either way I'd say talk to your teacher first and see if you can get some advice, particularly for the next two SACs.

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There are no good or bad styles for a context piece, only good or bad ways of writing them. If you think a blog post suits your writing style  and you can make it work not as a gimmick, but as something to add to your discussion (ie. why would your piece work differently as a blog post than as a speech or essay?) then go for it. It might be worth reading some sample articles (The Australian + The Review are probably best) and see how their opinions come across. For a more extreme example, read some Herald Sun editorials an d notice the difference in language and tone; but write whichever way you feel is best :)

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I'll preface all this by referring you to EZ's Guide to Succeeding in VCE Literature That should give you a general sense of the course.
With regards to the English/Lit transition: with a good teacher and/or a solid work ethic you should be fine. Lit, like English, isn't all that difficult to grasp conceptually, and once you know what the criteria are asking you to do, it's just a matter of fine-tuning your approach.
Biggest difference between Lit and English: the focus of your essays will be more towards the language than the characters/theme/message etc. Lit deals with how language is used to create meaning, and whilst the meaning is important, the 'how' is critical. Take a look through the past exams as the Passage Analysis format is the biggest part of the course. Essentially you're given 3 excerpts from the text you've studied and you have to construct an analytical piece around them. It's exactly as vague as it sounds :) There's also some bits and pieces throughout the year as outlined in EZ's post.
The most common difficulty is that there's a tendency for a lot of students (myself included) to start writing in an English-y way by focusing too much on the big picture and not the stylistic features of the text. Whereas in an English T.R. you know what your focus is, you sort of have to create your own in Lit and ensure you keep if in mind throughout your essay.
I knew people who picked up Lit without Units 1/2 and a lot of them ended up scoring just as well if not better than others with an extra year of practice. It all depends on the effort you're willing to put in. Suffice it to say the first few essays you write will probably be all over the place, but once you know what you'r'e doing, Lit is one of the most rewarding subjects, way more so than English imo.

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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #406 on: July 30, 2014, 04:00:19 pm »
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Hi, Lauren
Could you tell me how to write rebuttal in a T.R and what is the smartest way to do it?
And I also found for some questions, it's hard to write the rebuttal on. What can I do then?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #407 on: July 30, 2014, 04:07:16 pm »
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Hey Lauren

My school has just started studying our second text for Text Response. However, there is one class at my school who are studying language analysis again (as the teacher is afraid that they would have forgotten how to write a language analysis essay)

I feel like I have forgotten how to write a decent language analysis and once we finish this new text, there won't be much time until the exam.

my question is: how did you balance studying for each section of the English exam in the last 3 months until the exam?
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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #408 on: July 31, 2014, 08:19:32 am »
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hey lauren,
how long was it before you started feeling confident about context?
at the moment i'm finding i get thrown by some prompts, and i need almost an hour and 20 minutes to write a decent 900-1000 word piece. what's the best way to improve on speed before the exam?
thanks heaps!
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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #409 on: July 31, 2014, 02:40:32 pm »
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Hi Lauren,
Is it compulsory for an introduction and a conclusion to summarise the contention of a text response? In T.R how would you go about constructing a topic sentence;did you follow a specific formula? Is having a paragraph which challenges the prompts implications sufficient to fulfill the different interpretations criteria?
Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #410 on: July 31, 2014, 03:09:49 pm »
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Hi Lauren,

I have a context essay sac tomorrow and was wondering if I am shaping my knowledge well enough around the prompt. here is an example of one of my paragraphs.

Prompt: Living a lie always catches up to you in the end.

The fear of societal truths can force people to resort to lying about a reality. People suppress and repress memories, and fabricate experiences in order for a person to defend their core values, dreams and ego. After World War II, the American Dream promised so much and provided hope for Americans in that they could have a house, a family and plentiful money, but this reality eluded Willy Loman. Willy had dedicated his life to achieving the American Dream, which is a social dream that is underpinned by its materialism where the individuals must follow societal values or personal ideals and face the consequences. As a result of Willy being unable to achieve the American dream, Willy deluded himself from his true reality to escape the harsh truths of failure during the mid-20th century, and admitted 'times are tough,' but 'not for me of course.' Willy holds onto the belief that the American Dream is still within his grasp, but blames such failure of accomplishment on the population, because 'there's more people' who are living his dream. His devotion to living a reality of lies in order to act the image of success and the achievement of the American Dream drove him into a deep psychosis where his reality became infected with hallucinations of his past, fabricating his reality to portray the image of not being a 'dime a dozen,' but instead to fulfil the expectations of 'magnificence' and grandeur like Ben. Although Willy believes the American Dream is infallible, he continues to fabricate a reality of wealth in that he has an obsession with diamonds as a measure of tangible wealth, and validation of his labour whilst working on 'commission,' living in denial about the truths of his reality of 'still feel[ing] temporary about myself,' shaping his past in a way that is always rosy. However, Willy plants seeds in a desperate attempt to signify his inability to provide as a father, leaving nothing on the table for his children or wife when he passes. His recognition of being unable to achieve the American Dream ultimately leads to his demise and the disclosure of truths that the decades of single-minded dedication of being 'the man of New England' was all a lie, and simply passes the 'magnificence' of $20,000 onto Biff, resigning to the death bed knowing Biff can achieve the American Dream through the life insurance payout.
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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #411 on: July 31, 2014, 07:05:02 pm »
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Hey Lauren,
I have a context essay tomorrow on a film. I was wondering if you had any tips on how to structure the introduction and other paragraphs at a year 9 or slightly higher level? Also, how many quotes do you think I should be aiming for in each paragraph?
Thanks so much,
Ace  :)
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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #412 on: August 02, 2014, 11:47:46 pm »
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The rebuttal isn't compulsory provided your contention is well-developed, but if you are committed to one, or your teacher prefers it: ask questions! Look at the prompt from different angles and you should be able to find a new point of discussion. There's no "smartest way" to do any of this, only what works for you and what doesn't.
If a prompt cannot be directly challenged (these will usually be structural ones, eg. 'How does the author maintain a sense of tension throughout the text?' to which you can't just say 'yes' or 'no') then you have to have a good contention that looks at the different ideas and implications. These essays will require a different approach to the 'standard' character and theme questions, so maybe talk to your teacher if you're considering these.

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Don't worry too much about the other classes, but if you feel uncertain about L.A. (or anything for that matter) you should definitely work on it sooner rather than later. In short, I balanced my time by knowing what I needed to devote it to... if that makes sense. Rather than writing three essays at a time over and over again, I might just go through compiling a bunch of topic sentences for a difficult T.R. prompt, or come up with a good contention and list a few examples for a context piece. If there's an area that you're struggling in, devote more time to bringing that up to scratch since everything is weighted equally in the exam.
I know many teachers abandon L.A. after the Semester 1 SAC, (correctly) assuming it can be taught quickly in the weeks leading up to the exam. Trouble is, if you wait till then you're missing out on a year's worth of developing your skills and working on your weaknesses. Might be worth going to your teacher and asking for some extra help/work if you're really struggling, otherwise see how you go writing a piece yourself and then get some feedback. At this level, teachers are usually pretty receptive to students taking initiative in their own learning. If not, there's always AN :)

Paulrus:

I didn't feel confident about context until I got my study score :p Even then I was quite surprised for a couple of days. But I would argue that not feeling confident was kind of helpful in that I never had a chance to get complacent. On the other hand you don't want to be panicking, so I guess I'd say a good aim would be to have the three essay formats and the textual content well and truly covered before Term 4, then you can work on fine tuning bits and pieces.
With regards to timing, it really depends what you're having issues with. If the ideas aren't coming to you or you can't link them fluently then it's probably an issue with your focus (ie. a convoluted contention doesn't lend itself well to a seamless integration of ideas) Whereas if you know what you want to say and just can't express it, then it's a conceptual problem. This is arguably easier to fix since it just involves exposure to as many prompts as possible. Since you're at that high level anyway, write on the tricky ones.
Being 20 mins over isn't too much of a problem, but it's best to aim for under an hour so, either:
    -   Force yourself to write things in an hour. Be aware of the time and wrap discussion up quickly if you need to. The first few pieces you write like this might seem a bit stagnated or underdeveloped, but eventually it will become more natural.
    -   Or, keep doing what you're doing: take as long as you need but time how long you're going over. As you get more confident with your style and content, the time will probably end up going down on its own.
(Of course there'll be instances where you're trialing a new idea/example/format in which case don't feel obliged to time yourself; 'formative' or developmental essays completed over a few days to let the ideas ferment can be an excellent way to break up the monotony.)
In the end my context prompt was still a surprise, and it messed with a lot of students' results, but you have to expect all eventualities.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best :)

24bauer12:

1. I don't know if 'summarised' is the right word, but your contention should definitely be clearly and concisely stated in your intro and conclusion. Don't fall into the trap of redundantly tacking it onto the end of ever discussion point though, try to segue from your discussion of the textual evidence back to your main argument.
2. I always hated the formulaic topic sentences, so I pretty much let my contention drive the discussion. So long as your T.S. is expanding upon your contention (which in turn will be an expansion of the prompt) then you should be fine. VCAA isn't that strict; a quick glimpse through some high scoring practice pieces will show there's a hundred different ways to do it well.
3. Yes, the challenge paragraph can be sufficient if used well. In some sense your argument should already be considering these multiple viewpoints though, (eg. 'Whilst this character could be dismissed as irredeemable, there are in fact various facets to his identity that hint at a possible redemption.')

90ATAR:

Sorry about the late reply, hope your SAC went well :)
This paragraph is good so if you wrote as well as this you should be fine. Some things to watch out for though:
- This is a very text-dominant paragraph and you need to move beyond the set reading (if not within this paragraph certainly in your piece as a whole) lest it sound like a Text Response.
- Another good way to avoid this 'T.R. feel' is to zoom out and look at the broader ideas. Ends of paras are usually the best (but not only) place for this. You finish on a point of evidence without really explaining its significance. The connection to the prompt might be obvious to you, but you need to make it super-clear to your assessor as well.

AceVCE777:
Again, sorry about the delay  :-\
For Year 9 (and 10 for that matter) do whatever your teacher recommends. There's no sense learning a VCE level response since that's not what they're asking of you. Basically the skills you develop will assist you later on, but they don't want to bombard you with criteria atm. For the intro I suppose you could use some historical/authorial context if it's relevant to what you're studying. Paragraphs are usually structured by themes at most levels unless you're deliberately going beyond that. Don't do a standard character-by-character response though.
I'm afraid no student in the history of time and space has ever gotten a clear answer to the 'how many quotes?' question. My personal recommendation is that 3 should be your minimum, but I've seen plenty of flawless paragraphs with less than this. The more important thing is how you're using these quotes. Can you integrate them well? Are they all relevant to your discussion? Are they relatively short (ie. less than 1 1/2 lines) so you're not wasting time? Can you modify them appropriately? If you're confident with these then you'll be cruising through T.R. quote usage in Year 12 :)

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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #413 on: August 02, 2014, 11:55:36 pm »
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Hey Lauren,
when writing an expository essay, is it okay to sit on the fence and explore ideas from both sides of the prompt? I've been searching around the internet about a contention and everyone is saying you need your opinion on it, but, wouldn't that be persuasive then? isn't expository about "exploring" the prompt hence why you can't agree or disagree fully??
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« Reply #414 on: August 03, 2014, 12:25:18 am »
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Hey Lauren,

I am aiming for a really high score for the stage drama entitled 'No Sugar', in which the text response SAC is held on Friday.

From your experience, what does it take to achieve these lofty ambitions as you have done more than successfully? Should I do more practice essays? Should I organise some one-one time with various English teachers?

All things being equal, I do not intend to pursue this stage drama in the exam as I am more confident with other options.

What motivated you to achieve superb scores, whilst already deciding particular aspects of what you might or might not do in the exam?

I also tend to get extremely nervous before any SAC as I want to do extremely well, more anxious than anyone I know. I'm not sure if you had this issue, but if so could you give me any tips as I recognise that you are a high achiever and would have combated anxiety extremely well?

NB: I sent a previous message on this thread about potentially sending you some photos of a text response of mine (handwritten), but I received no response? I perfectly understand if you take umbrage, and I certainly don't want to pester...

Thank you :)

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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #415 on: August 03, 2014, 04:48:06 pm »
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Thank you Lauren
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« Reply #416 on: August 07, 2014, 11:52:22 pm »
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Just wanted to ask  , will writing 2 main body paragraphs instead of 3 matter ? The altogether my essays reach the word limit though.

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« Reply #417 on: August 08, 2014, 12:04:35 am »
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Short answer: have a contention. It's not about persuasion and more about giving your piece focus. You don't have to definitively agree or disagree, but arguing a point rationally will be more effective than a fence sitting essay that just says 'maybe this and maybe that' without coming to any impressive conclusion.

Contrarian:
Re: anxiety, though this may sound counter-intuitive, think about why you're anxious. I'm sure others would disagree and say positive thinking is the best option, but I think being able to rationalise your nerves is a lot more effective than ignoring them.
Also, from a purely pragmatic point of view, it can actually assist with your studies. For example, I remember having a stress-nightmare in which I sat down to do the english exam and there was just a blank piece of paper in front of me that said 'Write.' I freaked out because I felt like I needed more focus, and if left to my own devices my mind would wander and never complete the task at hand. Obviously this was founded in irrationality, but it did make me realise I needed to familiarise myself with more broad prompts for T.R. and Context (eg. something like: The novel shows us what it means to be a good person; something which felt way to broad for me to say anything substantial about.)
Of course telling yourself you are competant and prepared and wonderful shouldn't be underestimated. As always, think constructively, not destructively. Instead of ohmygodohmygod-I'm-going-to-fail-English-and-be-rejected-from-every-uni/TAFE-in-the-known-universe, think: okay, so I'm worried I won't know where to start with my essay, my plans are shabby and unhelpful, clearly I can't write a good intro, and topic sentences don't come easily to me, so that's what I need to work on now.
Re: motivation, suffice it to say I wasn't deliberately aiming high. I've said time and time again that I had no idea I was capable of a 50 until about a week after receiving my results when it all sank in. I've always enjoyed English, I enjoyed my classes and texts in Year 12, and in the end it worked out well for me. Aiming high is great, but know what you have to do to get better (qualitatively, not quantitatively, ie. 'i need to better integrate evidence' as opposed to 'i need to go from an 8 to a 10')
All the best for your SAC!

lovexxoo:
For which essay type exactly?
I'd say try to break it down into three anyway. I wrote massive paragraphs for my pieces but I had to be careful not to let the ideas drag on, or to cram too much in. The purpose of recommending three paragraphs is usually to ensure breadth and depth of ideas, so in general two paragraphs alone won't cover enough ground while seven won't allow enough detailed discussion. You could definitely pull it off, but for safety's sake I'd say write at least three. You wouldn't want to get a snarky assessor at the end of the year who marks you down for such a minor issue. Most won't notice/care, but plan for the worst all the same.

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Re: 50 in English, available for queries :)
« Reply #418 on: August 09, 2014, 05:52:28 pm »
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Hey Lauren I know this isn't really related to English specifically, however I've been needing an answer to this question for ages.
Are literature and English writing Styles different? I mean I know how to practice my writing for English- which is generally through practice essays of text response, context and language analysis, however I have no idea how to practice for lit!
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« Reply #419 on: August 12, 2014, 07:13:34 pm »
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What is the "Goal" of text response essays?
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