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What is the hardest schecdule of reinforcement to extinguish?

Variable Ratio
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2010, 10:01:33 pm »
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This was asked in VCAA 2005 exam (saw it in another thread). What was the answer VCAA gave?

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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2010, 10:05:15 pm »
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Variable Ratio.

Question was:

Question 35
In Skinner’s original experiments, behaviour that had been conditioned by which type of schedule was found
to be the most difficult to extinguish?
A. variable schedule
B. fixed schedule
C. continuous reinforcement schedule
D. punishment schedule
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2010, 10:09:13 pm »
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Variable Ratio.

Question was:

Question 35
In Skinner’s original experiments, behaviour that had been conditioned by which type of schedule was found
to be the most difficult to extinguish?
A. variable schedule
B. fixed schedule
C. continuous reinforcement schedule
D. punishment schedule

the answer was variable schedule...
they did not differentiate between ratio and interval, and I don't think they will.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2010, 10:12:14 pm »
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There was this confusion in my class last year, but it as agreed to be variable interval. But apparently they wont ever ask this specifically, only differentiate between varible and fixed, or interval and ratio for things.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2010, 10:13:18 pm »
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hey vexx what exam/SAC score did u get to get 44?
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2010, 10:14:29 pm »
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hey vexx what exam/SAC score did u get to get 44?

two low-mid A+s (closer to mid), and pretty high ranked in an above average cohort.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2010, 10:16:34 pm »
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haha i have some chance of getting above 40 then!! :)

cant believe u got 44 from low/mid A+...

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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2010, 10:18:10 pm »
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Variable Ratio.

Question was:

Question 35
In Skinner’s original experiments, behaviour that had been conditioned by which type of schedule was found
to be the most difficult to extinguish?
A. variable schedule
B. fixed schedule
C. continuous reinforcement schedule
D. punishment schedule

the answer was variable schedule...
they did not differentiate between ratio and interval, and I don't think they will.

I was saying if the question came up, I'd go ratio.

That being said, I've never seen them ask. If they have 'ratio' in a MC, it would be without interval as another option.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2010, 10:19:22 pm »
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haha i have some chance of getting above 40 then!! :)

cant believe u got 44 from low/mid A+...

 thanks

yeah i know, my sac ranking did help.. it was probably on average of my two exams quite close to being a mid A+, but just below.. only a couple more marks would have got me 45.
so goodluckk, you can get 40+ if you just get over that low A+ line (averaging over both exams)
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2010, 10:19:49 pm »
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Variable Ratio.

Question was:

Question 35
In Skinner’s original experiments, behaviour that had been conditioned by which type of schedule was found
to be the most difficult to extinguish?
A. variable schedule
B. fixed schedule
C. continuous reinforcement schedule
D. punishment schedule

the answer was variable schedule...
they did not differentiate between ratio and interval, and I don't think they will.

I was saying if the question came up, I'd go ratio.

That being said, I've never seen them ask. If they have 'ratio' in a MC, it would be without interval as another option.
agreed.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2010, 10:31:02 am »
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There was this confusion in my class last year, but it as agreed to be variable interval. But apparently they wont ever ask this specifically, only differentiate between varible and fixed, or interval and ratio for things.

Grivas only really talks about the separation between fixed and variable schedules of reinforcement and nothing more specific.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2010, 12:04:17 pm »
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haha i have some chance of getting above 40 then!! :)

cant believe u got 44 from low/mid A+...

 thanks

yeah i know, my sac ranking did help.. it was probably on average of my two exams quite close to being a mid A+, but just below.. only a couple more marks would have got me 45.
so goodluckk, you can get 40+ if you just get over that low A+ line (averaging over both exams)

[offtopic]Hey vexx, can I ask what each of your exam marks were? If that's okay? Thanks.[/offtopic]

Back on topic, the only other thing we need to know is continuous is the easiest to extinguish.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2010, 02:36:04 pm »
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Just to throw a little more confusion into the debate, I'm pretty sure gaming machines have a variable interval schedule sometimes, as well as a variable ratio one. Read that on some handouts we got.

it might, but that seems a little unlikely. can you imagine a slot machine that pays out when no ones even playing it?
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2010, 03:38:44 pm »
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Just to throw a little more confusion into the debate, I'm pretty sure gaming machines have a variable interval schedule sometimes, as well as a variable ratio one. Read that on some handouts we got.

it might, but that seems a little unlikely. can you imagine a slot machine that pays out when no ones even playing it?

Haha. As in variable interval while the machine is active. However, it IS variable ratio as the payout can ONLY be after a response, not in between responses if that makes sense?

For example the skinner box as variable interval could give a pellet 2 mins after a response as well as immediately after depending on chance. But for gaming machines, it is immediately following a response.
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Re: [Poll] Hardest Schecdule of Reinforcement to Extinguish
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2010, 04:23:43 pm »
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I'm gonna go with variable ratio. I asked my teacher again (who got 49 in psych when she did it) on which partial schedule of reinforcement is most resistant to extinction, and she said variable ratio rather than variable interval. I doubt this question will come up in the exam though :)
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