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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4500 on: September 28, 2019, 04:48:48 pm »
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Hi,

Do you guys think the essay questions will be very specific? Bc i plan to prepare 3 paragraphs that I would want to write for each module, but should i do more (I have notes for other themes, but they're not as good as the ones I am wanting to use)?

The texts I'm doing are Merchant of Venice (common), Keats and Bright Star (A), and Emma (B). It's just because I feel like the common module can't be too specific (as in you'll just have to constantly relate your 'human experience' to the question), and Emma only really has 3-4, maybe 5, main themes.
What does everyone think?

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« Reply #4501 on: September 28, 2019, 10:09:33 pm »
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Hi! I went to today's Advanced English lecture today (which I loved)! Thank you for hosting it! I just had a few more questions that I hadn't thought of at the time:

Is it right to say that when writing a thesis statement, it will have an overarching concept (usually from the essay question) and will then relate to the themes of each paragraph?

Do I need to write 3 body paragraphs for each essay? For comparative essays I usually write 2 body paragraphs with 2 from each text to compare, and 2 body paragraphs with 3 quotes for one text; should I be writing another paragraph?

For T.S. Eliot, can industrialisation be a concept and a context point in my thesis?

Thank you so much!!

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« Reply #4502 on: September 29, 2019, 11:01:35 pm »
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For textual conversations module A my prescribed texts is Plaths Ariel and Ted Hughes Birthday Letters. I do have a full essay prepared but it only covers a few of the poems in the anthologies. How would I prepare for this module? By having at least 1 paragraph for each pairing (if you get what I mean).

Also what are the chances they give us a stimulus for that question? Thankyou!


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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4503 on: October 01, 2019, 09:47:20 pm »
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Hi sorry me again! I need help writing a reflection I really odnt know where to begin and the two times I have to write one in my internals I have only managed to get a 7/10 and I don't really know where to improve. Has anyone found good links to website that explains it well or even a sample that I could have a look at :)

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« Reply #4504 on: October 04, 2019, 11:06:39 pm »
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Hi sorry me again! I need help writing a reflection I really odnt know where to begin and the two times I have to write one in my internals I have only managed to get a 7/10 and I don't really know where to improve. Has anyone found good links to website that explains it well or even a sample that I could have a look at :)

Hey, Dani!

7/10 is an excellent start. I did Extension II which is heavily reflection based, and I would say the most important thing I learned was that you need to concisely address:
a) The Concept
b) The Form
c) The Intended Audience
d) And continuously link a) b) c) to your purpose.
This way, you can structure your response similar to an essay, which I am sure everyone is more familiar with.

Support your paragraphs with examples from what you've written and don't be afraid to mention texts which have inspired your work.

Be sure to always use evaluative language - when you are writing your reflection, ask yourself, "How do I think I really went and what could I have done better?". The marker will not mark you down if you say "I didn't address my concept well enough," in fact they would prefer you to be critical. I liked to keep it to a 4:1 or 3:1, Good:Bad ratio.

Good Luck!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4505 on: October 06, 2019, 07:29:24 pm »
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Hi,
For the comparative in Module A . Should I write integrated paragraphs or seperate paragraphs for each text?

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4506 on: October 06, 2019, 07:31:16 pm »
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For the comparative in Module A . Should I write integrated paragraphs or seperate paragraphs for each text?

Hiya!

Integrated is more sophisticated, and higher range students will integrate.

Hope this helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4507 on: October 06, 2019, 08:24:54 pm »
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Hey! So short answer responses are not my forte, I prefer to memorise and refine which is an obvious problem in this section. And I was wondering what strategies everyone does? Multiple answers to this would be cool.
Like do you guys have a structure you follow, or just wing it?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4508 on: October 06, 2019, 10:01:46 pm »
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Hey! So short answer responses are not my forte, I prefer to memorise and refine which is an obvious problem in this section. And I was wondering what strategies everyone does? Multiple answers to this would be cool.
Like do you guys have a structure you follow, or just wing it?

Hey, not a mystery mark!

For short answer questions, I would recommend firstly reading the question and deconstructing it. Figure out which concept/s from the rubric are you required to look out for in the unseen text. I would then read the text with that in mind and consider what ideas about the human experience are being represented and what impact this would have on the audience. Once your reading time is up, highlight or underline some quotes immediately so you don't forget them and annotate which techniques are being used to generate meaning. This can help you structure your responses as well; you'll have your thesis/concept statement, textual evidence, analysis and link back to audience accordingly.

As I've mentioned briefly above, maximise your reading time with the short answers by making sure you read the question first. This way, you will be able to identify what you do need and skim read the rest of the text for quotes that might support your judgement if need be. Another tip I can give is to memorise some techniques (they don't have to be obscure or fancy, just a good handful of ones that are common) so you can assign them a lot faster under exam conditions to the provided texts. You can use past papers to practise identifying techniques in the texts; while the syllabus is completely different, this is just good practice for you to see what kind of texts you're confident and less confident working with (for me, it was visual texts that I struggled with more!) That way, you can better prepare and cater to what gaps in your knowledge there are. Hope that helps!

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4509 on: October 06, 2019, 10:13:41 pm »
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Hey, not a mystery mark!

For short answer questions, I would recommend firstly reading the question and deconstructing it. Figure out which concept/s from the rubric are you required to look out for in the unseen text. I would then read the text with that in mind and consider what ideas about the human experience are being represented and what impact this would have on the audience. Once your reading time is up, highlight or underline some quotes immediately so you don't forget them and annotate which techniques are being used to generate meaning. This can help you structure your responses as well; you'll have your thesis/concept statement, textual evidence, analysis and link back to audience accordingly.

As I've mentioned briefly above, maximise your reading time with the short answers by making sure you read the question first. This way, you will be able to identify what you do need and skim read the rest of the text for quotes that might support your judgement if need be. Another tip I can give is to memorise some techniques (they don't have to be obscure or fancy, just a good handful of ones that are common) so you can assign them a lot faster under exam conditions to the provided texts. You can use past papers to practise identifying techniques in the texts; while the syllabus is completely different, this is just good practice for you to see what kind of texts you're confident and less confident working with (for me, it was visual texts that I struggled with more!) That way, you can better prepare and cater to what gaps in your knowledge there are. Hope that helps!

Angelina  ;D

Thanks heaps!! I'll definitely be keeping that in mind. I'll try a 6-mark response using the suggestions and post them in a bit. Hoping it goes well.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4510 on: October 06, 2019, 10:34:16 pm »
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Hi!

Just wanted to add on to Angelina, the techniques you use can be as simple as symbolism. Once I found this out, I went from like 15/20 to 20/20, I also structure my responses super formulaic, which sucks for the marker but ensures I have enough techniques and points for the marks.

So for e.g.; In (text), the composers use of (technique) conveys (whatever human experience/what the q is asking) as it (effect).

And I just do that however many times the mark allocation requires.

Also, knowing how much each mark needs is super important as well, like for 5 markers and up, it should be structured as a mini essay.

Hope this helps!
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4511 on: October 06, 2019, 10:44:56 pm »
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Hi!

Just wanted to add on to Angelina, the techniques you use can be as simple as symbolism. Once I found this out, I went from like 15/20 to 20/20, I also structure my responses super formulaic, which sucks for the marker but ensures I have enough techniques and points for the marks.

Hope this helps!
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Yeah, I'm a formulaic response kind of guy for short answer - if I can't memorise I'm going to try and get close to it. Symbolism/Juxtaposition/Subversion are my god tiers for techniques ahaha - perhaps the holy trinity for me.

I actually just finished a response, I don't think I wrote enough for 6 marks, perhaps better for 4 marker, or a part of a 6 marker - but I think it's a fair start. I'll add it below along with the question and sample text.

"The narrative juxtaposition between the character's description of community and personal reaction, illustrates the complexities of human response to places and people. Namely, the excerpt opens with the imagery of a “blue, indolent town”, accompanied by a continuation of short-sentenced accumulative listing to conjure the feeling of tiredness and normality in the responder which characterises the persona’s relationship with his community as [[tiresome]]. However, this initial reaction is juxtaposed by the later metaphor of “[Bells] flood over me, drawing me out of myself” indicating the way communities and place change typical responses in people - namely a “part of this town and happy”. A further juxtaposition is made once three ambiguous characters are introduced, using the subverted colour symbolism in “Three boys on motorbikes go by. And then the pure, melancholy, first blue of morning” - suggesting that a symbiotic relationship between people and communities is limited to individual connection as opposed to a collective connection - such drawing out the complex specificities that formula the relationship between people and their communities. Ultimately, the collection of these juxtapositions specific serve to formulate a complex dichotomy between the individual, the collective, and their involvement with communities. It is addressed that the attitudes towards communities are reliant on niche factors, contributing to its complexities."

Thoughts on structure, responding, etc?
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4512 on: October 06, 2019, 11:23:06 pm »
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Hey, Muir.mclennan!

They can definitely specify a technique because there was a similar question that also specified a technique in the sample paper NESA provided. What I would do with those sort of questions is to make sure you gear your response towards that technique but also look at other examples that support the technique's effectiveness in the text. For example, if you had the use of setting here with 1984, you could look at having examples with setting as the key language form and then use say dialogue or visual imagery as supporting analysis to show how the characters respond to the place as a part of their human experiences. This way, you address the focus of the question but you also expand it with further examples that also shaped your perception of the human experience. Hope that helps!

Angelina  ;D

Hey Angelina! Just wanted to clarify with you about that essay question.

In other words, do you have to link back to setting (eg. how Oceania is decrepit, how the populace is dehumanised) in every example you use?

What are some other likely literary devices that they may specify?

Also, to everyone else! Are you guys going to prepare a creative that's written from the perspective of a persona in one of the Mod C texts? It seemed like quite a popular trial question... :( I don't know which character/persona to use though.
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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4513 on: October 08, 2019, 07:45:11 pm »
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Also, to everyone else! Are you guys going to prepare a creative that's written from the perspective of a persona in one of the Mod C texts? It seemed like quite a popular trial question... :( I don't know which character/persona to use though.

I'm not preparing a creative from a perspective. It was NESA's sample they released and like you mentioned it was a really popular question, so I think it is highly unlikely. But I mean you never know 

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Re: English Advanced Question Thread
« Reply #4514 on: October 08, 2019, 09:11:42 pm »
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So a lot of past papers state "use the stimulus below as a starting point." How exactly do I use a stimulus- do I quote it. do I talk about the ideas within it? These are for the essays btw. Just a bit confused of how to integrate them, as I've never actually been taught how.