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Chocolates Questions
« on: April 16, 2008, 03:59:32 pm »
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Looks like I'll follow the trend and make my own thread  :)

There are a couple of log questions i need help with..albeit them being *easy* ones.

1) Simplify Log3 6 + log3 x^1/2 = 1

I did..
Log3 6 + log3 X^1/2 = Log3 3
log3 X^1/2= Log3 3 - Log3 6
log3 X^1/2= log3 3/6
1/2log3 X= log3 3/6
log3 X = 2log3 3/6
log3 X = log3 (3/6)^2
log 3 X = log3 1/4                     [is cancelling the log3 out possible?]
X = 1/4

and the answers have 1/4 as the answer...how did they rid the equation of the x? (noting that, if correct, it should say x=1/4 as the answer because they are simplifying NOT solving..) Or did they just leave it out..?

ok and next one

2)
(2^x) . (3^x+1) = 10

I wont type it all, I'll just explain what I did.
Brought the x to the front and made xlog10 2
Split the 3^x+1 into (3^x . 3)
Logged both of these
Multiplied these with xlog10 2
Logged 10
Divided then squared..
aaand
got the wrong answer ::)

Help appreciated. :)


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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 04:13:45 pm »
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hehe~ welcome

1)
yes, you can cancel logs on both side.


and the answers have 1/4 as the answer...how did they rid the equation of the x? (noting that, if correct, it should say x=1/4 as the answer because they are simplifying NOT solving..) Or did they just leave it out..?


and there's no need to worry about this kind of tiny detail :)
if we are to be pedantic:
expressions (without equal/inequal signs) are simplified, equations are solved in respect to a variable. so equations cannot really be simplified, but expressions within the equation can be.

2)
the way you wrote the question was a little ambiguous, but after reading your explanations this is what I think you meant:



which is:











it will be a great help if you could use the math typeset.
to use LaTeX:
Code: [Select]
[tex]....expression....[/tex]
a short tutorial on different mathematical expressions:
http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,864.0.html
« Last Edit: April 16, 2008, 04:33:07 pm by Mao »
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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 04:31:12 pm »
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*hits head* How could I not realise that I had to group the ^x's...Silly silly

Thankyou very much Mao  :)

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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 07:46:22 pm »
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I'm back with a few easy baby questions..that I can't do :D

[I'd use latex but I'm feeling lazy..sorry, the expressions look terrible :angel:]


Simplify:

5^(3n) x 16^(n) / 50^(2n) x 4^(-n)   x  (16/125)^n 

I keep getting..

5^(n) x 16.(4)^(3n) / 50.(5)^(n+1)

I sub back n=1 to see if they give the same answer, and my simplified expression is a decimal point in difference..ie 0.4096 as opposed to my 4.096.. lol

and also
given that a= b^(c)

find b in terms of c and a
find c in terms of a and b

OK for the first one i tried log(e)'ing both sides
So  I went Log(e)a = Log(e)b^c
Log(e)a= c x Log(e)b
divide by log e
b= a/c
So very wrong.

and then for the second one, I just did
C= log(b)a
which I'm sure is alright.


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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 07:51:04 pm »
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grouping everything together"







(grrr that was so hard to read in terms of LaTeX code, haha)





1)




from your method, we could have done:







etc ~
and you are right for the second one =)
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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 08:31:51 pm »
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grouping everything together"







(grrr that was so hard to read in terms of LaTeX code, haha)





1)




from your method, we could have done:







etc ~
and you are right for the second one =)


Thanks Mao, very much appreciated, expect you made a little mistake on question 2..(I dont blame you, all that latex  :uglystupid2:)

you said


when the 2^(-2n) on the right should be 2^(2n) because you brought the negative up in order to multiply, so it becomes positive.

Then you get.. (256/625)n and then when you sub in 1 you get 0.4096 as you should.  :)








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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 08:57:31 pm »
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ooh, is that what the question asked?




sorry :P
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Re: Chocolates Questions
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 11:56:15 pm »
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No, no you're perfectly ok, I just didnt define the question properly. Look at it, lol

p.s. I'm taking you into my methods and spesh exams  :D