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Hi I don't do any maths subjects stupidly so go 8 university's are not a option. I think I like finance and ecnomics but I also think I could be good at law. (However I haven't done either but I've reseached into them).

I am currently considering commerce/law at Deakin to get a taste for both and then transfer to Monash if that can happen. But if I don't successfully transfer what's Deakin commerce law double degree reputation or credibility. Or should I stick to keeping economics and finance applied at rmit as my number one preference.

I also really like banking and finance major at Monash with the buisness bachelor, is there any like bridging options for this.

As well as do Melbourne uni bridging courses run in conjunction with access Melbourne scholarship? My school qualifys but I don't do the preq if I was to say obtain a 80 atar (access Melbourne clearly in for arts) and complete the introduction into mathematics bridge course will I be able to apply into arts major in economics because your atar is regarded valid for two years? Or this is not a thing? I feel like it's not a thing.

Im very lost at the moment any advice, opinions thoughts ect ect would be much appreciated!!
« Last Edit: July 08, 2017, 04:40:23 pm by Aaron4477 »

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Re: Deakin Law/commerce or RMIT economics and finance + Monash advice
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2017, 09:02:49 am »
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I am currently considering commerce/law at Deakin to get a taste for both and then transfer to Monash if that can happen. But if I don't successfully transfer what's Deakin commerce law double degree reputation or credibility. Or should I stick to keeping economics and finance applied at rmit as my number one preference.

I also really like banking and finance major at Monash with the buisness bachelor, is there any like bridging options for this.
I'll answer this really honestly with you based of my extensive experience in the world of commerce jobs. honesty is important with this because commerce/law (especially commerce from my experience) are very picky and very competitive, and I don't want to give bad advice.

Commerce/Law at deakin is fine as a course choice. If you get really good grades and are active and apply for internships and have an interesting resume, you will definitely be a contender for most of the commerce/law related jobs. You probably wont be in the running for the "elite" roles at all (investment banks, MBB management consulting, etc.), but you will definitely be a contender for some good stuff that has good career opportunities you can be proud of (Big 4 accounting/consulting, the big banks (nab anz etc.), almost any ASX200 company in marketing/finance/legal departments, etc.)   so that degree choice is fine but keep in mind you will have to do very well in your degree to get compete for these good roles.
you will go to interviews and there will be 20-21 people there: 9 melbourne 7 monash 3 RMIT and 1/2 deakin candidates (including you). You must have good grades (over 80 average is a good guide) and good extra curricular activities, try to get as much RELEVANT work experience/internships as possible, and build yourself a good resume. You will have to be a very solid candidate to prove youre worth a chance but you definitely will be in the running for alot of those good roles.

You mention economics and finance applied at RMIT, which is a very good course. Obviously you won't be a lawyer out of it, but for commerce it is better than deakin. You will still have mostly the same job opportunities, but it will be slightly easier to progress through the hiring process, and SOME of the "elite" places might take a second look at your resume if you are very good. If you have a ridiculous average >90, an amazing resume and extra curriculars, they might move you through, whereas at deakin they will see the name deakin and throw it in the bin. its not nice but its very true. Everything i've personally been to and heard about from friends for these places (top investment banks and management consulting firms) have been either melbourne/monash only, and occasionally (such as for my own testing session at a top 3 consulting firm) everyone was melbourne uni. I have heard of an RMIT grad working in one of these graduate programs though, so it is possible, but he was an AMAZING candidate and they would've been a fool not to take him.
The benefit of RMIT over deakin, that is more pertinent to your situation, is the fact there is 1 year of work experience in the middle. This is great, is often at really good companies, and gives you a REALLY good advantage when applying for jobs after graduation. Most RMIT kids I've met doing the applied program have had no problems at all finding a job after it. Just make sure your applied year is in a field you want to work in (either finance, pharmaceutical, marketing, government, etc.) to get the most out of it.

I'm not too sure about bridging courses. I think at monash you can enrol in a different degree like a bachelor of arts, and take the methods equivalent subject as breadth, and then once youve passed that transfer into commerce/business if your grades are good enough. I don't think its necessary though, and doing the RMIT course would be just fine.

I'd put the RMIT applied course first and deakin comm/law second and deakin comm third then RMIT eco/fin (not applied) 4th and the rest are up to you.

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Re: Deakin Law/commerce or RMIT economics and finance + Monash advice
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 09:47:58 am »
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Thank you so much that's the sort of information I was after. What would a graduate degree from a go8 say Melbourne do for me on say opening the door to the elite companies? Like a master of finance it is only a 2 year course and that is something I would be willing to take the extra time to go out and complete if it opens doors to all/most careers.

I have also read MBA degrees are sought after by elite so if I was to go out and get the work experience through a couple years work and then complete a part time MBA at say Melbourne would my job opportunitys open up or is that more of a American thing?

I would like to know because I am strongly considering these but will I just be putting myself in that postgrad debt for no good reason?

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Re: Deakin Law/commerce or RMIT economics and finance + Monash advice
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 10:03:41 am »
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There's a fair few people who enter top companies as an experienced hire after an MBA. You can just go into Melb Comm straight away with 95+ ATAR and doing the bridging course, so why not just do that and save yourself the 20k + 2 years?
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Re: Deakin Law/commerce or RMIT economics and finance + Monash advice
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 04:27:29 pm »
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I hadn't thought of that because realistically a 90 atar or above is probably beyond what I am currently capable of however does the access Melbourne run in conjunction with bridging courses or no as my school qualifies just no maths preq! (The atar for access Melbourne this year is 88) and since your atar is valid for two years does that mean acceptance is realistic.
If this is a option I would strongly consider arts Melbourne majoring one economics if I could do this (as a 2nd prefences to commerce of course).
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I hadn't thought of that because realistically a 90 atar or above is probably beyond what I am currently capable of however does the access Melbourne run in conjunction with bridging courses or no as my school qualifies just no maths preq! (The atar for access Melbourne this year is 88) and since your atar is valid for two years does that mean acceptance is realistic.
If this is a option I would strongly consider arts Melbourne majoring one economics if I could do this (as a 2nd prefences to commerce of course).
yeah in this situation your best bet is to do melbourne bachelor of arts majoring in economics and try to transfer into commerce asap.
if you transfer in the end of your first year and structure your degree right you will still graduate in 3 years