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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8730 on: July 12, 2017, 10:37:34 pm »
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Would really appreciate it if someone could explain how to find the range of the following functions by hand: 

f(x)=(1/3)2x-x2
f(x)=(1/3)x2-2x

Thanks in advance! :)

For the first one:
as x-> infinity and x-> negative infinity, 2x-x2 -> negative infinity
As  2x-x2 -> negative infinity, f(x)-> infinity (as 1/3 is less than 1)
maximum value of 2x-x2 occurs when d/dx(2x-x2)=0
2-2x=0, x=1
So minimum value of f(x)=1/31
Range: [1/3 , infinity)

Similar method for the second question :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8731 on: July 14, 2017, 02:20:54 pm »
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Can someone help me on question 4d) -- I tried using the vector formula (|a||b|cos(theta) = a.b) but couldn't put it in terms of pi. Is there another way to approach this question?

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8732 on: July 14, 2017, 06:38:54 pm »
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Can someone help me on question 4d) -- I tried using the vector formula (|a||b|cos(theta) = a.b) but couldn't put it in terms of pi. Is there another way to approach this question?

Thanks!
I would say that your approach is the way I would go about it. So when using the vector formula you mentioned (assuming you can use your calc):
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Solve for theta in degrees (calc):



Convert to radians:


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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8733 on: July 17, 2017, 01:06:01 pm »
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I would say that your approach is the way I would go about it. So when using the vector formula you mentioned (assuming you can use your calc):
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Solve for theta in degrees (calc):



Convert to radians:




Thank you! :^)

Also (sorry again): I'm having trouble working out what is required of me for question (b) and (c). Like how do I work out my Friction if my N value is kinda dependent on the T value? Much confusion. Any help would be great!

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8734 on: July 17, 2017, 02:56:03 pm »
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Thank you! :^)

Also (sorry again): I'm having trouble working out what is required of me for question (b) and (c). Like how do I work out my Friction if my N value is kinda dependent on the T value? Much confusion. Any help would be great!

Thanks again guys!

Hi :)
So for b) you know that N+Tsin30=W (as net force=0). So the maximum T value for the crate to not be lifted from the floor occurs when N=0 (ie all the upwards force is being applied by the tension). From there should be easy :)
c) So N=W-Tsin30. Fr=uN=u(W-Tsin30). Weight is constant so now you should be able to solve for T
Hope this helps :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8735 on: July 22, 2017, 12:58:30 pm »
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Can someone please explain the answers for question b and c? Why is the slope field only graphed for x = -2? I have a feeling that these solutions are completely wrong...

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8736 on: July 22, 2017, 01:08:38 pm »
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Can someone please explain the answers for question b and c? Why is the slope field only graphed for x = -2? I have a feeling that these solutions are completely wrong...
from what I see the solutions are completely wrong

for part c you will need to use the slope field that should've been generated in part b) to help you sketch it :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8737 on: July 23, 2017, 12:02:13 am »
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do you have to do spesh 12 to do spesh 34, or methods 34 enough. trying to work out a vce plan

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8738 on: July 23, 2017, 04:45:18 am »
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do you have to do spesh 12 to do spesh 34, or methods 34 enough. trying to work out a vce plan
According to the study design these are the possible combinations (see attatchment)

I still think you can do 3/4 stuff without actually doing the 1/2 units although it would take extra work outside of school.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8739 on: July 23, 2017, 08:45:04 am »
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do you have to do spesh 12 to do spesh 34, or methods 34 enough. trying to work out a vce plan
If you want to do spesh 3/4 without 1/2, you could certainly do it but I would strongly recommend you do plenty of extra work during holidays / term time before starting 3/4. I found when I did it, it had quite different content to methods (spesh had complex/imaginary numbers, vectors and other things not present in methods). 3/4 Also did draw on a lot of 1/2 knowledge so you'd need to get familiar with the basics and be willing to put in the extra work for 3/4. Maybe contact a spesh teacher and see if you could get some worksheets / questions / tests for 1/2 content relevant for 3/4 to get familiar with it.

If you're in year 10 trying to figure out a plan for year 11 and 12, I would strongly recommend doing 1/2 spesh if you intend on 3/4. It is a subject that requires you to have a reasonable amount of experience with the 1/2 content before you start 3/4 (in my opinion). Some other subjects don't rely on earlier content as much and so I'd recommend going straight to 3/4 for one of these subjects instead.

Tl;dr you can do 3/4 it without 1/2 but you'll have to put in the extra work.

Good luck in your choices and feel free to ask for any more advice :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8740 on: July 26, 2017, 03:30:52 pm »
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Someone give me a really challenging question that can be done with vce knowledge!
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8741 on: July 26, 2017, 04:01:27 pm »
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Someone give me a really challenging question that can be done with vce knowledge!

This thread has some that are worth a try even if they are a bit old. :)
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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8742 on: July 29, 2017, 10:10:21 pm »
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For the acceleration-time graph that I have attached, how do I calculate the final displacement using: Method1- constant acceleration rules and Method 2-intergration? Initial position and velocity are 12m and 3m/s respectively.

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8743 on: July 29, 2017, 10:21:40 pm »
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For the acceleration-time graph that I have attached, how do I calculate the final displacement using: Method1- constant acceleration rules and Method 2-intergration? Initial position and velocity are 12m and 3m/s respectively.

For both methods, you're going to need to split it up into three parts - the first positive bit, the negative bit, and the second positive bit. Remember that displacement is a vector quantity, and then add them all up in the end. Let us know what answer you get/how you got it if, after trying that, you arrive at the wrong answer. :)

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Re: Specialist 3/4 Question Thread!
« Reply #8744 on: July 29, 2017, 11:07:34 pm »
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For both methods, you're going to need to split it up into three parts - the first positive bit, the negative bit, and the second positive bit. Remember that displacement is a vector quantity, and then add them all up in the end. Let us know what answer you get/how you got it if, after trying that, you arrive at the wrong answer. :)

I've tried both methods but keep getting the wrong answer. For method 1 I used s=ut+1/2at^2 to find each displacement. I used the final velocity of the previous part as the initial velocity of the next.
For method 2 I think I am subbing in the wrong values. For the integration of second part velocity function I subbed t=0 and v=7 into v=-t+c.