placement test for languages

[*ryan777*]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

[lynt.br]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

The stats uniy over view did look pretty complex. Why exactly is it so easy? What exactly do you do in that unit (The overview in the handbook seemed very technical)?

Taking Fyrefly's advice, my commerce units now look as follows:

Semester 1:
AFC1000 Principles of accounting and finance
ECC1000 Principles of microeconomics

Semester 2:
ETC1000 Business and economic statistics
MGC1010 Introduction to management


From people in the know, any specifically bad decisions here if my aim is to get a Credit average? How much of a disadvantage will I be in if I do AFC1000 and ECC1000
without doing VCE Economics or Accounting? I hear AFC1000 is just a complete rehash of VCE Accounting, is this true?

[*ryan777*]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

The stats uniy over view did look pretty complex. Why exactly is it so easy? What exactly do you do in that unit (The overview in the handbook seemed very technical)?

Taking Fyrefly's advice, my commerce units now look as follows:

Semester 1:
AFC1000 Principles of accounting and finance
ECC1000 Principles of microeconomics

Semester 2:
ETC1000 Business and economic statistics
MGC1010 Introduction to management


From people in the know, any specifically bad decisions here if my aim is to get a Credit average? How much of a disadvantage will I be in if I do AFC1000 and ECC1000
without doing VCE Economics or Accounting? I hear AFC1000 is just a complete rehash of VCE Accounting, is this true?

dw about ECC1000 without vce economics,  apart from maybe the 1st chapter or so the 2 dont actually seem *that* related

[Fyrefly]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

I didn't read the textbook... I wouldn't know what's in it.

[Fyrefly]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

The stats uniy over view did look pretty complex. Why exactly is it so easy? What exactly do you do in that unit (The overview in the handbook seemed very technical)?

Taking Fyrefly's advice, my commerce units now look as follows:

Semester 1:
AFC1000 Principles of accounting and finance
ECC1000 Principles of microeconomics

Semester 2:
ETC1000 Business and economic statistics
MGC1010 Introduction to management


From people in the know, any specifically bad decisions here if my aim is to get a Credit average? How much of a disadvantage will I be in if I do AFC1000 and ECC1000
without doing VCE Economics or Accounting? I hear AFC1000 is just a complete rehash of VCE Accounting, is this true?

dw about ECC1000 without vce economics,  apart from maybe the 1st chapter or so the 2 dont actually seem *that* related

I didn't do VCE Eco, but people I spoke to who did said that there isn't much past the first week that's relevant to ECC1000 course. I really enjoyed ECC1000... the American lecturer (Matt... something) is absolutely awesome... he explains economic theory with reference to porn, whiskey, vodka and the "Chinese Yen". If it counts for anything, Micro was the only subject I got HD for in my first semester.

Umm... I did do VCE Accounting and yes, most of it is a rehash... there is a *little* bit of new material and slightly different terminology, but it's pretty much VCE Accounting.

[ninwa]

I hear AFC1000 is just a complete rehash of VCE Accounting, is this true?

I heard this from an accounting tutor (as in, not VCE tutor, the people who lead the tutorials) so yeah, I think you'll be fine.

[Fyrefly]

Well I just got a call from the Law faculty who told me I can't apply for a Diploma in Languages unless I have already completed 48 credit points with a credit average. I'm fairly sure getting a credit average isn't too challenging for my first year commerce units but I've heard with law units getting anything higher than credit is considered in huge achievement. From people with past experience, how much effort would I need to devote to my law units and how difficult is it to maintain a credit average or above, keeping in mind that compared with the rest of the class I will probably have the intellectual capacity of a dugong?

Out of the compulsory 1st year BComm units you should definitely do stats and management if you want to get a good 1st-year average... those units are sooo easy. I also recommend putting off business law for similar reasons... there's a general consensus that it is the most difficult of all the compulsory 1st year units... my transcript agrees.

stats? really?
just looking through the stats textbook gives me heartfailure atm

I didn't read the textbook... I wouldn't know what's in it.

Sorry... I should probably elaborate on that... I read a *little* of the textbook before I realised how useless it was... I still got HD anyway.

The lecturer gives out a summary for each of the three "topics" that you write all over as he goes through them in lectures... they're way better than the material in the textbook, because you know what you have to focus on for the exam. And the exam... basically, do ~3 past papers, go through the solutions (or ask your tutor) and you'll have covered every question they'll throw at you on the real thing. I did 2 past papers and I got ~90% on the exam... I only lost marks because I ran out of time right at the end. Bear in mind that I epic-fail at probability (there's a bit in topic 3) and I still did great.

Use the computer lab sessions as an opportunity to learn how to make excel do what you need it to do for the assignments, but keep in mind that the final exam is on paper, not computer... also, in the topic summaries there's basically "how to do your assignments" examples, just with different scenarios.

[IntoTheNewWorld]

is WES closed right now or something =\

I tried to change my units (i.e get rid of Business Law) but it seems to have stuffed up me...?

[*ryan777*]

is WES closed right now or something =\

I tried to change my units (i.e get rid of Business Law) but it seems to have stuffed up me...?

i thought business law was compolsory for the bcom peeps.....im prob wrong tho

[IntoTheNewWorld]

is WES closed right now or something =\

I tried to change my units (i.e get rid of Business Law) but it seems to have stuffed up me...?

i thought business law was compolsory for the bcom peeps.....im prob wrong tho

well, push it to second year =]

[*ryan777*]

is WES closed right now or something =\

I tried to change my units (i.e get rid of Business Law) but it seems to have stuffed up me...?

i thought business law was compolsory for the bcom peeps.....im prob wrong tho

well, push it to second year =]

lol id love to do that for stats
seriously, y does it need to have 3 lectures? (ruined my timetable)

[Fyrefly]

is WES closed right now or something =\

I tried to change my units (i.e get rid of Business Law) but it seems to have stuffed up me...?

i thought business law was compolsory for the bcom peeps.....im prob wrong tho

well, push it to second year =]

lol id love to do that for stats
seriously, y does it need to have 3 lectures? (ruined my timetable)

Stats doesn't have 3 lectures... screen shot or it didn't happen.

[*ryan777*]

sorry to revive this thread, but is monash ment to send my an email or letter or something telling me to do the placement test?
i know the info is on the monash site somewhere ( monday 22nd, menzies bldg @ 10am bla bla bla) but it seems that if they really wanted u to do this test there would be at least 1 notification, and its less than a week till the test now
i will probably show up anyway but yeah....