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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2010, 07:58:25 pm »
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what do they mean that the objects in the wall are distorted to eliminate linear perspective?

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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2010, 08:52:42 pm »
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what do they mean that the objects in the wall are distorted to eliminate linear perspective?
If the windows in the room were the same size and not distorted, we would be able to perceive the REAL distortion of the room due to the monocular cue of linear perspective- that is, we assume something is receding into the distant if two parallel lines appear to converge. So if we see the lines converge, it gives it away that the room isn't normal, and in fact is distorted. I hope I haven't just confused you :(
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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 11:32:57 pm »
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which pararallel lines are in the ames room?

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2010, 11:54:13 pm »
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I suggest looking at the answer for 11a in the VCAA 2005 exam. That's what you pretty much have to know in terms of the physical aspects of the Ames room.

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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2010, 12:06:23 pm »
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thats in the past, u have no idea what there gonna put this year.

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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2010, 04:41:44 pm »
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which pararallel lines are in the ames room?
Well there are no parallel lines- that is the point. They purposely distort the features of the room so that we can't see the true distorted shape of it (haha)- and so we perceive the features as looking normal. If there were parallel lines, like I said before, we would be able to apply the depth cue of linear perspective.
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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2010, 09:51:59 pm »
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Also if you think about it. The ceiling has to go up and the floor has to slope down to prevent the linear perspective effect where parallel lines appear to converge in the distance. The same linear perspective principle we learn about.

They both don't have to slant.
Either way, if either the ceiling or the floor slants, the lines of the adjacent wall will still NOT recede into the distance.

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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 10:55:50 pm »
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thats in the past, u have no idea what there gonna put this year.

I'm sure they won't ask how is linear perspective related to the Ames room.

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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2010, 11:32:55 pm »
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thats in the past, u have no idea what there gonna put this year.

I'm sure they won't ask how is linear perspective related to the Ames room.

yer i agree. it would be funny if they did though. They keep repeating questions. So I doubt there would be many curveballs. Its the last year of the study design they're kinda over making original questions and running out of options haha. I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple questions practically re-used. They did this in the last year of the business study design, so there will probably be a similar story for psych..
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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2010, 09:14:37 pm »
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thats in the past, u have no idea what there gonna put this year.

I'm sure they won't ask how is linear perspective related to the Ames room.

yer i agree. it would be funny if they did though. They keep repeating questions. So I doubt there would be many curveballs. Its the last year of the study design they're kinda over making original questions and running out of options haha. I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple questions practically re-used. They did this in the last year of the business study design, so there will probably be a similar story for psych..


That'd be awesome if they were recycled. They'll probs just change the names of the people in the situational q's :)

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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2010, 10:19:56 pm »
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I hate some of the situational q's, especially regarding those about past experience. coming up with a situation on the spot about why a guy would perceive the ambiguous drawing to be a old woman while a girl perceives it to be a young woman is just... I don't know what sort of example they'd like. grr
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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2010, 11:18:41 pm »
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haha, my teacher warned us about this. Spereadbury you know too much, hence you think more about the quetsion, hence you get confused.

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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2010, 04:36:27 pm »
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it's not that i know too much Boots, it's more that I don't know what an acceptable example would be, there could be specific criteria and in certain subjects (not necessarily psychology, though in some parts it can be) you just vomit up the information and arrange it accordingly. And also one examiner may think your examples genius while another thinks it's absolute bollocks. But i've always had trouble coming up with examples like that, it's just worse in exam conditions
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Re: illusion theories
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2010, 05:36:39 pm »
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You could say one MAY work in an elderly home where he/she sees more elderly women, thereby perceiving the old woman.

The other MAY work as a teacher at a high school ?