MONASH: Transferring from single to double degree

[mdntimp]

At MONASH University: I want to transfer from the undergrad degree in Commerce to the undergrad degree in Commerce/Law, possibly half way through first year or at the end of first year. Is this possible? Has anyone done it? Is Monash lenient with this if I show I can get good grades? Thanks!

[keltingmeith]

Curiously, why do you want to do the transfer? Do you just feel like you won't able to get the ATAR? Because if that's the case, if you qualify for the Monash guarantee you will be guaranteed entry into any law double degree with an ATAR of 94+ (which judging by your signature is a little bit more reasonable to your hopes)

[brenden]

At MONASH University: I want to transfer from the undergrad degree in Commerce to the undergrad degree in Commerce/Law, possibly half way through first year or at the end of first year. Is this possible? Has anyone done it? Is Monash lenient with this if I show I can get good grades? Thanks!

I think Monash don't allow mid-year transfers for Law but I'm unsure on that.

As far as end of year transfers, it's actually relatively easy to get the required grades assuming you keep work hours and partying to a minimum (just for a year) and treat your first year of university almost as seriously as Year 12.

[mdntimp]

...if you qualify for the Monash guarantee you will be guaranteed entry into any law double degree with an ATAR of 94+ (which judging by your signature is a little bit more reasonable to your hopes)

- Unfortunately I am not of Aboriginal decent hence I can't skate into uni. I doubt I'll get the 98 ATAR required!

As far as end of year transfers, it's actually relatively easy to get the required grades assuming you keep work hours and partying to a minimum (just for a year) and treat your first year of university almost as seriously as Year 12.

- Year 12 all over again? Hmf. I didn't think the grades would need to be THAT high... I was thinking credits/distinctions, not necessarily high distinctions would be required as an average?

[ninwa]

http://www.law.monash.edu.au/future-students/undergraduate/pathways.html#Current

To be eligible to apply for a Law place you must have:

    completed the equivalent of one year (48 credit points) or more of a recognised Monash undergraduate degree and
    achieved a distinction average or better across all university units

Entry to law courses is a competitive process and the actual average required depends on the number and standard of applications received each year.

- you can't transfer into law mid-first year unfortunately
- transferring into law is highly competitive. A distinction average is 70+, but anecdotally you'd need to be aiming at 75+ to have a realistic chance

[brenden]

- Unfortunately I am not of Aboriginal decent hence I can't skate into uni. I doubt I'll get the 98 ATAR required!

- Year 12 all over again? Hmf. I didn't think the grades would need to be THAT high... I was thinking credits/distinctions, not necessarily high distinctions would be required as an average?

Credits and distinctions will give you next to zero chance. I think the lowest transferee I've met scored 74.5 as his average and said he got in 'late' (dunno what that means), and I know of many friends of friends who got anywhere between 75-78 who didn't get in, haven't heard of someone getting an HD average that hasn't got in. I don't really feel that getting an 80 average is Year 12 over again. It doesn't take as much study (in my very personal experience), but it DOES mean you have to make consistently correct choices. Eg, if you estimate a major essay takes 3 days, and you have 4 days to do it, so you figure you'll go out to a party tonight and do it for the next three days after the party - that would be a shit decision imo. So many times have I heard of this happening and someone underestimated the task, or overestimated their understanding, or pulled up something shocking and left themselves only 2 days etc. In that sense it can be like Year 12, but that will only happen for a few weeks out of a twelve week semester, so really, it's not a big deal. An 80 average in first year is more of a representation of your conscientiousness than of tonnes of hours of study. I had a shit time in Year 12 and find first year uni comparatively easy because basically, you just have to turn up and not fuck up, which proves challenging for some people.

So, in sum: like Year 12 in the sense that you weight uni-related things with high-importance, but by no means like Year 12 in that you "should go home and study for three hours a day".

[Rohmer]

As per above posts, you'll need an average of 75+ to be competitive (low 80's or above and you're close to a sure thing). It'll take some level of dedication, but is definitely doable, and with considerably less effort than for a 90+ ATAR imo. First year subjects mostly aren't all that hard, although some people struggle with the change in learning style, or continue in a haze of post-year 12 partying before having to cram to pass exams (which is fine, but it's a lost opportunity for easier HD's). Make sure you're taking the subjects you can do best in during that first year (e.g. if you excel at written work, do marketing/management; if you're stronger with numbers/quantitative work make sure you do stats).

[yazza]

can you transfer from a double degree into law? eg; from science/commerce to science/law??

[keltingmeith]

can you transfer from a double degree into law? eg; from science/commerce to science/law??

I can't think of any plausible reason for them to say no (other than reasons they'd say no to a single degree transferee, ie. WAM too low).

[brenden]

can you transfer from a double degree into law? eg; from science/commerce to science/law??

Yep

[Mieow]

So, in sum: like Year 12 in the sense that you weight uni-related things with high-importance, but by no means like Year 12 in that you "should go home and study for three hours a day".

Do you actually not study that much in Uni? :O

[keltingmeith]

Do you actually not study that much in Uni? :O

I mean.
You can if you want to.
We won't stop you from doing it.
But I don't actually know anybody that does, so...

[brenden]

Do you actually not study that much in Uni? :O

Christ no. You'd die of exhaustion. Although, there are definitely some weeks that make up for it. Eg, some weekends end up entirely devoted to uni, so that boosts your daily 'hours studied' average up a bit. And some weeks you might fall behind and decide to catch up and invest that much time in, but generally, no, you don't really need to study 3 hours a night at all. If you're in science, a lot of your work is done at the university, which is why the contact hours are higher, and outside of uni you just need to do your assignments and any readings you deem necessary (which for many people is zero, from what I've heard). If you're in Arts, you just need to keep up with your readings (which is harder than you might imagine for some people, especially when assignments come knocking), and do your assignments. If you've got four readings to do, you could do them all on the weekend (2 each day), and essentially be done for the week (other than making small preparations/doing a bit of extra reading for the upcoming assignments).

[InsaneMDot]

Hi, sorry for the bump but I didn't want to make a new thread and it seemed relevant.
Is it possible to transfer from a double degree to a single degree? Say I did BSc/BCom but found BCom too hard and failed some classes can I transfer into just BSc?
Are there any requirements?

[alondouek]

Hi, sorry for the bump but I didn't want to make a new thread and it seemed relevant.
Is it possible to transfer from a double degree to a single degree? Say I did BSc/BCom but found BCom too hard and failed some classes can I transfer into just BSc?
Are there any requirements?

Yes, you can transfer from a double degree to a single one. It's still an internal course transfer, so you'll need to do all the assorted paperwork and maintain a strong average as you would with any transfer.