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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #405 on: June 05, 2015, 01:03:29 pm »
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First body paragraph :)

Bur if you're doing something slightly creative, you're free to use the text in your intro as well. Many students like to adopt the voice of the author or a character and do a mini-imaginative piece for the intro and conclusion.

In 'traditional' expository pieces, the intro is just for opening up your ideas, but starting off with examples is a great way of capturing the reader's interest; it just depends what your strengths are and what you're willing to experiment with. :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #406 on: June 05, 2015, 01:18:47 pm »
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First body paragraph :)

Bur if you're doing something slightly creative, you're free to use the text in your intro as well. Many students like to adopt the voice of the author or a character and do a mini-imaginative piece for the intro and conclusion.

In 'traditional' expository pieces, the intro is just for opening up your ideas, but starting off with examples is a great way of capturing the reader's interest; it just depends what your strengths are and what you're willing to experiment with. :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #407 on: June 06, 2015, 07:38:48 am »
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Hi!

Do you know any real-life and current examples of Context- Whose Reality?
Also, is there any short stories or articles that are useful? I have an English exam in 3 days and I'm freaking out!
Please help me :P
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #408 on: June 06, 2015, 08:30:09 am »
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When I did my context SAC (Unit 1/2) a few weeks ago, I aced it and received full marks. I wrote it as an Imaginative/Expository TV interview, which worked really well for me.

However, on my English exam the other day, I wrote a standard expository essay, and I feel like it limited my ability to express my ideas; resulting in a poor performance.

As I progress through VCE English, should I stick with the TV interview format, or should I experiment around a little?

Also, if I were to stick with the interview/dialogue format, how should I start the piece. On my SAC I wrote a little paragraph at the start, something like:

The following is a television transcript from an interview conducted between (Person 1) and (Person 2), originally broadcast on the (Television Network) on (Current affairs program) at (Time) on the (Date):

This intro didn't feel right. Should I alter it, or just leave it out altogether?

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #409 on: June 06, 2015, 10:59:35 pm »
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In context, how much of our nominated text do we need to draw from?

I was very confused, do we need to have at least 25% of our writing to be based on our selected text?

Are a few references enough?

How much do we need to 'satisfy requirements' ?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #410 on: June 09, 2015, 07:21:17 pm »
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When analysing and writing about the visual in language analysis, say I have 3 articles in the piece (one main one and two comments), what do i have to include? Like do I need to only write about the main article and it's relation to the image (since it would have been published to aid their argument/persuasion)? Thankyou!
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #411 on: June 09, 2015, 09:16:30 pm »
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When I did my context SAC (Unit 1/2) a few weeks ago, I aced it and received full marks. I wrote it as an Imaginative/Expository TV interview, which worked really well for me.

However, on my English exam the other day, I wrote a standard expository essay, and I feel like it limited my ability to express my ideas; resulting in a poor performance.

As I progress through VCE English, should I stick with the TV interview format, or should I experiment around a little?

Also, if I were to stick with the interview/dialogue format, how should I start the piece. On my SAC I wrote a little paragraph at the start, something like:

The following is a television transcript from an interview conducted between (Person 1) and (Person 2), originally broadcast on the (Television Network) on (Current affairs program) at (Time) on the (Date):

This intro didn't feel right. Should I alter it, or just leave it out altogether?
Hi, I'm not overly sure about the introduction, but I would think that that is allowed as it does give the examiner insight to what you'll speak of since they don't have any prior information about it. I would personally have started mine of with dialogue in an interview transcript.
As for your other question, you are in year 11 so you have time to play around and find the writing style that suits you. However, saying that, if you're good at something in year 11, such as the imaginative transcript, I would think it would be better if you chose your style now and perfected it for year 12. By the way, considering you aced an interview transcript, I would personally practice it and stick with it till next year, as schools in year 12 rightfully tend to encourage students to pursue something other than the overused expository essays or articles.

In context, how much of our nominated text do we need to draw from?

I was very confused, do we need to have at least 25% of our writing to be based on our selected text?

Are a few references enough?

How much do we need to 'satisfy requirements' ?
It depends on your style of writing.
For imaginative pieces, you can take core-text elements, characters, themes and ideas and explore them within your piece. You don't need to make direct reference, but rather just exploring the same or similar ideas is fine.

For a persuasive or context pieces, you can make direct links to the text. However, I don't think that's a must. Instead you can also just explore the ideas. You can use quotes, history and evidence from the text.
Overall, you can't really define the extent to which they want you to refer to the text. You do have to, but as told by my own school, I think it's okay if you use indirect references, instead of saying "As seen in this book... blah blah".

When analysing and writing about the visual in language analysis, say I have 3 articles in the piece (one main one and two comments), what do i have to include? Like do I need to only write about the main article and it's relation to the image (since it would have been published to aid their argument/persuasion)? Thankyou!
You definitely have to include an analysis of the visual with respect to its accompanying article. As for the other two comments:
- If they seek to elicit the same feeling in parents, i.e. concern, then you can refer to the image. The image and the comment may have the same key argument, or position readers to feel or do something specific.
- If the comments contradict the ideas of the image, you can say "In stark contrast...." and compare. In this case, you can refer to the key arguments as they will contradict each other. Similarly, as such, the illustration and the writer of the comment would be seeking to position readers differently.
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think you can and should compare the articles and images.
Hope this helps  :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #412 on: June 11, 2015, 09:04:20 pm »
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In an exam, is it wise to include quotes form the article, into the introduction of a language analysis essay?
Also how long does the english exam go for, and we need to write 3 essays right?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #413 on: June 11, 2015, 09:10:21 pm »
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In an exam, is it wise to include quotes form the article, into the introduction of a language analysis essay?
Also how long does the english exam go for, and we need to write 3 essays right?
Don't have anything too big quoted in the intro, maybe one or two quoted words/phrases, but try to keep most stuff for the analysis.
The english exam goes for three hours and there is 15 mins reading time. Yep 3 essays, so people try to do one per hour, or one per 50mins so they have editting time or whatever time allocation works for them they use
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #414 on: June 11, 2015, 09:10:46 pm »
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In an exam, is it wise to include quotes form the article, into the introduction of a language analysis essay?
Also how long does the english exam go for, and we need to write 3 essays right?
My teacher said to include a couple of quotes, I think Lauren says not to.  Take your pick :P (lol love the way I'm starting to quote Lauren at every turn).  In the end I think it's a matter of personal choice, but don't put in more than 1-2 and make sure they're integrated very smoothly.

15 mins reading time, 3 hours writing.  Yes - one TR, one context, and one LA.  Definitely check out a couple of past exams to get a feel for the layout and how it all works.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #415 on: June 11, 2015, 09:54:21 pm »
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My teacher said to include a couple of quotes, I think Lauren says not to.  Take your pick :P (lol love the way I'm starting to quote Lauren at every turn).  In the end I think it's a matter of personal choice, but don't put in more than 1-2 and make sure they're integrated very smoothly.

15 mins reading time, 3 hours writing.  Yes - one TR, one context, and one LA.  Definitely check out a couple of past exams to get a feel for the layout and how it all works.

EDIT: beaten by SP :(

Thanks guys :D

How can I prepare myself for the english exam? What can I do now to ensure I can improve that when come exam time, or study periods, I don't panic (hopefully) and will feel optimistic about the exam?

Also do you recommend on doing the essay that im the weakest on during the exam first, or the one im best at?
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #416 on: June 12, 2015, 12:34:45 am »
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In an exam, is it wise to include quotes form the article, into the introduction of a language analysis essay?
Also how long does the english exam go for, and we need to write 3 essays right?
My logic is that the only time you should be quoting in L.A. is to analyse. If you're not analysing a quote, then it's there for summary, and summary is useless. (Note: not wrong, just useless. You don't lose marks for it, but you don't gain any either.) But you're not meant to be analysing anything in the intro, you're just introducing the piece and its contention. So if you were bringing up quotes and analysing them, then it's no longer an intro... more of a body paragraph.

And yes, Prodigy is right; the exam time averages to one essay per hour, but that doesn't mean you have to stick to the same time breakdown. If you only need 50 minutes to write a good Context piece, then you can give yourself an extra 10 minutes to deal with Language Analysis, if that was your weakness.

Thanks guys :D

How can I prepare myself for the english exam? What can I do now to ensure I can improve that when come exam time, or study periods, I don't panic (hopefully) and will feel optimistic about the exam?

Also do you recommend on doing the essay that im the weakest on during the exam first, or the one im best at?
Know what you're doing well and badly at the moment. Use teacher feedback, but also be your own critic. What do you find easiest or most difficult? And as always, be as specific as possible if you want to be efficient with your improvement.

Exam order should be either CAB or CBA (where Section A is T.R., B is Context, C is L.A.) I am yet to hear a convincing argument for any other order.
The majority of your reading time will be spent on the L.A. material, since you only have three other half-sentences to read: two T.R. prompts, of which you will choose one, and then the Context prompt. So if you spend ~13 minutes going through the L.A. material, and then write a T.R. essay first only to go back to L.A. second/third, you're essentially wasting time just transitioning between the different pieces. Get L.A. out of the way while it's all fresh in your mind; what you do after that is up to you. I usually advocate doing T.R. first since you have to use memorised quotes, whereas Context is a lot more fluid. AND if you're severely running out of time, you don't have to abide by any formal structure for Context, unlike in T.R. where you're expected to have 3 or 4 paragraphs + an intro and concl. But in the end, I went with CBA just because the Section B prompt was atrocious and I wanted to get it out of the way  ;D

Ideally you'll be able to get all three essay forms up to a stage where you feel confident enough with each of them, and then you can decide on the day which prompt you want to tackle first. But all the essays equally weighted, so there's no sense putting all your eggs in one basket :)

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #417 on: June 12, 2015, 07:24:49 am »
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My logic is that the only time you should be quoting in L.A. is to analyse. If you're not analysing a quote, then it's there for summary, and summary is useless. (Note: not wrong, just useless. You don't lose marks for it, but you don't gain any either.) But you're not meant to be analysing anything in the intro, you're just introducing the piece and its contention. So if you were bringing up quotes and analysing them, then it's no longer an intro... more of a body paragraph.

And yes, Prodigy is right; the exam time averages to one essay per hour, but that doesn't mean you have to stick to the same time breakdown. If you only need 50 minutes to write a good Context piece, then you can give yourself an extra 10 minutes to deal with Language Analysis, if that was your weakness.
Know what you're doing well and badly at the moment. Use teacher feedback, but also be your own critic. What do you find easiest or most difficult? And as always, be as specific as possible if you want to be efficient with your improvement.

Exam order should be either CAB or CBA (where Section A is T.R., B is Context, C is L.A.) I am yet to hear a convincing argument for any other order.
The majority of your reading time will be spent on the L.A. material, since you only have three other half-sentences to read: two T.R. prompts, of which you will choose one, and then the Context prompt. So if you spend ~13 minutes going through the L.A. material, and then write a T.R. essay first only to go back to L.A. second/third, you're essentially wasting time just transitioning between the different pieces. Get L.A. out of the way while it's all fresh in your mind; what you do after that is up to you. I usually advocate doing T.R. first since you have to use memorised quotes, whereas Context is a lot more fluid. AND if you're severely running out of time, you don't have to abide by any formal structure for Context, unlike in T.R. where you're expected to have 3 or 4 paragraphs + an intro and concl. But in the end, I went with CBA just because the Section B prompt was atrocious and I wanted to get it out of the way  ;D

Ideally you'll be able to get all three essay forms up to a stage where you feel confident enough with each of them, and then you can decide on the day which prompt you want to tackle first. But all the essays equally weighted, so there's no sense putting all your eggs in one basket :)

Wonderful, thanks!!

How do the assessors mark? Like say if you didnt have time to write the last essay, but like absolutely smashed the others as you devoted the 3 hours to it, would they really take off the whole 10 marks off the essay?

Also say you didn't have enough time to write up the conclusion of the last essay, what happens? In terms of marks :)
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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #418 on: June 12, 2015, 12:45:05 pm »
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How do the assessors mark? Like say if you didnt have time to write the last essay, but like absolutely smashed the others as you devoted the 3 hours to it, would they really take off the whole 10 marks off the essay?

Also say you didn't have enough time to write up the conclusion of the last essay, what happens? In terms of marks :)

Well, if you've written nothing, you've addressed none of the criteria for that essay - so you deserve 0 marks for that essay.  Simple.

About how long to devote to each - it depends on your situation and what works for you.  For me, I left my weakest to last and gave it very little time (~35 mins), in the hope that I'd wing it.  It meant I could maximise my marks for TR and LA, sections I was better prepared for.  If I'd spent more time on context, I wouldn't have done much better (let's face it, I was utterly hopelessly unprepared for it) and would have freaked out even more.  So while this seems ridiculous, it actually worked best for my circumstances.  Be flexible based on your needs.  Hopefully you won't let yourself get in that situation, though, so you can do approx 60-60-60.

I don't think I finished any of my pieces in the exam (actually maybe finished TR?) but got decent enough marks, better than deserved.  For a 10, finish; for a lower but still decent mark, I don't think you have to.  Better to write 4 decent paragraphs that impress the assessor and hit all the criteria, than 5 lower-quality paragraphs.

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Re: VCE English Question Thread
« Reply #419 on: June 15, 2015, 07:23:44 pm »
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How would I respond to a context prompt in an expository essay? I was told not to answer the prompt like a question (yes/no) but rather 'explore'.

For example using the 2012 conflict prompt "The experience of conflict changes people's priorities", I was told not to write my expository essay using 'the experience of conflict changes people's priorities and the experience does not change people's priorities' as my points because I'm responding to the prompt as if I'm answering a question. But how would I explore?