{SAC RANKINGS} -All you need to know about it-

[Onyx]

What happens if the student ranked equal
second in my class in HHD dosesn't sit the exam?

I think they are considered as an outlier as they get a UG or derived score or w.e. Won’t effect your pretty sure. You can check it out on vcaa’s statistical moderation page.

[atar.notes.user]

how much can rankiing affect ur SS?
also, if u get the highest exam mark in ur cohort, does that account to anything? like in related to ur SS

[Tadd12345]

Hey guys honest question. Does rank 1 have to score a good exam mark for the whole cohort to be moderated favourably, or can anyone score that SAC mark? I am rank 2 in both my subjects in an extremely weak cohort. I know that rank 1 won't perform well in the exam due to him claiming he won't even sit it. I do know that people ranked below me might do well.
Two questions;
1- Is the Sac mark moderated according to how well rank 1 scores on the exam, or the whole class collectively?
2- How stuffed am I, if i am rank 2 in a cohort of 30 people where only a few get study scores above 37? I will do alot of practice exams and i reckon I can do considerably well in the end of year VCAA exams

[lemonlemonlemon]

Hey guys honest question. Does rank 1 have to score a good exam mark for the whole cohort to be moderated favourably, or can anyone score that SAC mark? I am rank 2 in both my subjects in an extremely weak cohort. I know that rank 1 won't perform well in the exam due to him claiming he won't even sit it. I do know that people ranked below me might do well.
Two questions;
1- Is the Sac mark moderated according to how well rank 1 scores on the exam, or the whole class collectively?
2- How stuffed am I, if i am rank 2 in a cohort of 30 people where only a few get study scores above 37? I will do alot of practice exams and i reckon I can do considerably well in the end of year VCAA exams

1. Whole class collectively (Since SAC moderation is based on you rank (X) and X highest exam score)
2. Definitely not stuffed however if the rank 1 person neglect to sit the exams, it may affect your score.

[Aswathy Ottur]

Hello,
What if I performed above average on my first methods SAC, but got a 75 in the second SAC, though the class average was 76, Do I still have the chance of getting a 40+ for my study score.

[lemonlemonlemon]

Hello,
What if I performed above average on my first methods SAC, but got a 75 in the second SAC, though the class average was 76, Do I still have the chance of getting a 40+ for my study score.

Using your cohort as a mean of measure is unreliable if cohort strength is not yet defined (since ss is a state ranking, not cohort).

Therefore, I would recommend at least to take a look how much people in your subject get 40+ study score at your school. It should get you an idea how high you need to be ranked.

But in the end, my best advice is just to give it your all, worrying about ranking imo is waste of time as it cannot be changed but instead: working on your next sac and improve it.

[Joseph41]

Hello,
What if I performed above average on my first methods SAC, but got a 75 in the second SAC, though the class average was 76, Do I still have the chance of getting a 40+ for my study score.

Welcome to ATAR Notes.

As above, there isn't really enough information here to make an informed prediction. I know it's hard, but honestly, I'd try to focus as much as possible on the stuff you can control. You'll be fine. 👊

[smamsmo22]

This is probably a dumb question but I'm struggling to get my head around it. My understanding from this thread is that rank 1 ends up with the higher exam mark, and hence the highest study score, right?
I was rank 1 in my cohort last year, and didn't do so well on the exam. I ended up getting the 2nd highest study score. But doesn't that go against the whole rank 1 obtains the highest exam mark thing?? If anyone could explain it to me that'd be great, it was a while ago now so I'm not bothered by the result, just the fact that I can't explain it !!!

[Herman]

Do your SACS in year 11 effect your study scores in year 12?

Im in year 9

[technodisney]

This is probably a dumb question but I'm struggling to get my head around it. My understanding from this thread is that rank 1 ends up with the higher exam mark, and hence the highest study score, right?
I was rank 1 in my cohort last year, and didn't do so well on the exam. I ended up getting the 2nd highest study score. But doesn't that go against the whole rank 1 obtains the highest exam mark thing?? If anyone could explain it to me that'd be great, it was a while ago now so I'm not bothered by the result, just the fact that I can't explain it !!!

I will try and explain it as simply as possible

Rank 1 will achieve the highest exam mark as their SAC mark.

Everyone keeps their exam scores regardless of rank.

If you are rank 1 AND you get the highest exam mark in your cohort you will get the highest study score in your cohort.

Does that clear it up?

[Sine]

This is probably a dumb question but I'm struggling to get my head around it. My understanding from this thread is that rank 1 ends up with the higher exam mark, and hence the highest study score, right?
I was rank 1 in my cohort last year, and didn't do so well on the exam. I ended up getting the 2nd highest study score. But doesn't that go against the whole rank 1 obtains the highest exam mark thing?? If anyone could explain it to me that'd be great, it was a while ago now so I'm not bothered by the result, just the fact that I can't explain it !!!

nah you are just interpreting it incorrectly (although a common misinterpretation)

As rank 1 you would have go the highest SAC scores (which are standerdised to the highest exam score in your cohort). Your exam score is what you did in the exam and nothing is changed from that.

Do your SACS in year 11 effect your study scores in year 12?

Im in year 9

No nothing but your year 12  (units 3/4) sac scores are counted towards your study score.

[Herman]

Haha yess i do.
That competition... HAHA
But becoming rank 1 can also have its own mistakes. Such as if your teacher is assessing your work more strictly than your peers

Is that where the GAT examination comes into place as well.
Its because teachers can be bias and also be unnecessarily strict aswell with your SATs.

[S200]

Chill about the GAT.
You only need it if something really bad happens in your exams (like a friend dying)...
Trust me on this...

[Lear]

Chill about the GAT.
You only need it if something really bad happens in your exams (like a friend dying)...
Trust me on this...

The GAT is also used for other things such as comparing schools, scaling and triggering re checks of your exams.

[Vaegord]

As VCE is a normal distribution with a mean of 30 and standard deviation of 7. If the class size is too small(small sample size) will VCAA care about SAC ?marks?