ATAR Notes: Forum
Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => Monash University => Topic started by: *ryan777* on March 10, 2010, 03:16:49 pm
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hey guys, is it normal to feel like im starting to struggle in a few units after just 1.5 weeks of uni?
i knew it wasnt going to be a walk in the park but im starting to feel a bit worried about it now.....
so is this a normal phase most jafies go through or do i really need to step it up a bit?
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Definitely normal :) but yes you also do need to step it up. Uni goes at a very fast pace! I'm in third year and I'm still not used to it :P
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It's good that you're noticing you're having a bit of trouble now rather than at the end of the semester. Last year when I found I had trouble with something I'd just ignore it thinking I'd tackle it later, but later was too late and that piece of shit I never bothered to look at just happened to appear in the exam. I'm just aiming to stay on track with everything this year and not fall behind too far. ... and yeah what ninwa said, it goes pretty quickly. 12 or 13 weeks of teaching, then bang: exams. Just be careful not to crash the jaffycopter too early.
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I feel behind too =\
*hi5*
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its good to hear im not the only who thinks uni is kinda fast-paced :)
also i heard from some tutor or lecturer that about 20% of 1st year comm students dont even get through 1st year, is this true? and whats the most common reason for this? (since everyone doing comm @ monash got 90+ its not cos they r too dumb is it?)
i doubt ill do *that* bad but stil....
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Well, some people in the commerce degree got in through Monash College or a variety of other means if their ATAR was too low. So no, not everybody doing commerce has an ATAR of 90+.
20% dropping out sounds about right; first year tends to be a big shock to unsuspecting students. Some people just can't cope with the rapid pace at uni, and they only realise that until a semester in - ATAR doesn't really have anything to do with that. You tend to settle down a lot after first year though, so just hang on for now.
But whatever you do, don't fall behind and make vacuous promises to yourself that you'll catch up on material later in semester. You WILL struggle if you do that.
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..Fuck when did Uni start?
The drop out rate is people who struggle with it and people who decide that commerce just isn't for them. It's all very fast paced this uni business.
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But do remember that you really only need to know half of what you're learning. Don't bring out the OCD bred within you from VCE. Just aim to learn most of the major things and skip the little details.
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You will always be behind in uni, or they're probably not working you hard enough.
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It may help to know that I couldn't handle it when I first started uni.
/Veteran VNers collectively sigh because she's about to tell *that* story again.
I lasted just over a week before I intermitted (it's when you 'defer' during your degree).
I took a huge step back, got a job and just worked for 6 months.
I ended up realising how much I missed learning and consciously chose to go to uni, instead of just taking it for granted that my life was headed that direction.
Of course, I was so scared when I went back to try again mid-year... it was the only thing I'd put my mind to that had ever really beaten me... it was one serious learning curb.
My point is... you guys have lasted longer than I did when I started, and you've certainly all got more resolve than I did.
Right now I'm on an overall HD average... if I can do it, trust me when I say you definitely all can as well.
Get stuck into your work, get help NOW if you need it, and you'll do just fine :)
Besides, if excal can pass business law, everyone can.
*runs*
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yeah I feel like i'm falling behind too =( . Like in my maths class, the lecturer spends like 5 mins on each thing, and just moves on whereas last year,they'd prob spend a week looking at it.
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Lecturers need to get through a lot of crap. If its something that you should already have an idea of from high school or previous years they'll maybe give an example or mention it so you can go look it up again if you have to.
Even the lecturer is behind in one of my classes... or am I just eager to learn?
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Well, some people in the commerce degree got in through Monash College or a variety of other means if their ATAR was too low. So no, not everybody doing commerce has an ATAR of 90+.
20% dropping out sounds about right; first year tends to be a big shock to unsuspecting students. Some people just can't cope with the rapid pace at uni, and they only realise that until a semester in - ATAR doesn't really have anything to do with that. You tend to settle down a lot after first year though, so just hang on for now.
But whatever you do, don't fall behind and make vacuous promises to yourself that you'll catch up on material later in semester. You WILL struggle if you do that.
Does transferring to another course within the uni still count as "dropping out"?
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At least I'm actually motivated to do my assignments in uni. In highschool I could never properly concentrate on a maths assignment because there would always be an english essay lingering in the background. Here I have no distractions :)
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Maybe it's just my UMEP, but I don't feel that my uni subject's going too quickly whatsoever. Then again, I've done the whole course before...
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Obviously if you've done the whole course that makes it a lot easier o.O
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It does, it does. I guess we also did the whole course (including labs and exams) in 2.5 weeks, which makes the university pace look slow.
That was an exhausting period of time...
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Maybe it's just my UMEP, but I don't feel that my uni subject's going too quickly whatsoever. Then again, I've done the whole course before...
Do you have Boydell? :P
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I do! He's one of the most awesome teachers I've ever met. I can't believe he has AMus on recorder ;D
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Lol yeah, he's a really cool guy XD
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yeah boydell is awesome :)
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This is perfectly normal.
With second year I am DEFINATELY lagging behind (thank god I have tomorrow off). With uni you must have to be behind (like everyone is).
First week back:
- Real Analysis assignment (~100 questions some take 1minute and some take an hour). Due next Monday.
- Personal Finance assignment due on the second of April.
- Quantum Mechanics test week 4.
That though is pretty standard atm.
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Woah your Real Analysis assignment has that many questions? Mine has like 5 questions and
I still haven't cracked any of them.
lol I write more in one Analysis lecture than I do in one English Language exam
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Two assignments due next week
Uni sucks.
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Two assignments due next week
Uni sucks.
ditto.
i'm finding uni very overwhelming.
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Woah your Real Analysis assignment has that many questions? Mine has like 5 questions and I still haven't cracked any of them.
lol I write more in one Analysis lecture than I do in one English Language exam
Yeah but your 5 may be really difficult.
Anyway in Quantum Mechanics we just simplified the Shrödinger equation so we could solve it without P.D.E's. QM is definately the most interesting subject I'm taking.
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ooh PDE's tricky...
I thought we were gonna do the schrodinger equation today but in fact we examined the quantum mechanical wave . Using that we proved the uncertainty principle and studied fourier series approximation to quantum waves xD
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Is the QM course a first year course? I'm surprised it is in first semester.
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Is the QM course a first year course? I'm surprised it is in first semester.
It is not a first year course
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You and your PhB(Hons) powers!
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You and your PhB(Hons) powers!
lol yeah it is a very flexible degree. It also helped that I did UMEP
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Ahaha, analysis.
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
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ooh PDE's tricky...
I thought we were gonna do the schrodinger equation today but in fact we examined the quantum mechanical wave . Using that we proved the uncertainty principle and studied fourier series approximation to quantum waves xD
No fair!
We didn't get to derive the uncertainty princple but, we were told the kx component relates to the momentum-position uncertainty and ω relates to the energy-time uncertainty.
That function isn't for a localized particle.
The Shrödinger equation is a really cool way of showing conservation of energy in a quantum system.
Tomorrow we look at a particle in a box XD
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Gosh, I love the Schrodinger wave equations. One's my display picture on MSN ;D
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Oh and Quantum Mechanics + Special relativity is quantum field theory (not until masters level) and the BIG two Quantum Mechanics + General Relavity = ??? (string theory?)
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Loop Quantum Gravity and String Theory
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Ahaha, analysis.
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
Bad Mao! Stop being slack!
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i never know whats going on in some lectures but everything seems to make sense come exam time...
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Ahaha, analysis.
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
Bad Mao! Stop being slack!
It actually is really interesting, I have done more work for computational in one day compared to R.A. for two weeks.
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So far so good, up to date with all my Science subjects, though a little behind in breadth ;D
Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
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So far so good, up to date with all my Science subjects, though a little behind in breadth ;D
Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
Good luck with your GAMSAT Edmund!! I believe in you!!!
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I'm behind too :( I don't get economics.
Is it normal to feel really unmotivated when you get to Uni?
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We have study groups where we sit around and analyse a single sub-problem to a problem in an assignment for over an hour. Just 4 of us, 1 problem, hours of thinking. Uni is intense.
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Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
GOOD LUCK!
I know someone doing it and he only started revising last week, apparently :P (I don't believe him)