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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1065 on: December 18, 2019, 12:17:00 pm »
She got lucky. She claimed psychic and then the seer checked her and saw psychic as a possible role so we disregarded her as a suspect :(
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Actually this raises a question. What happens if the seer inspects someone twice?

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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1066 on: December 18, 2019, 12:27:17 pm »
Actually this raises a question. What happens if the seer inspects someone twice?

In Werewolf game 2, this happened. What happened, in the end, was if investigated again, the seer was able to deduce that one of the innocent roles already given to them was wrong

(ie blasonduo was investigated and was either nitwit, security guard or evil werewolf
you investigate blasonduo a second time and notice that there was NO WAY they were the nitwit)

However, what do you all think? Spending 2 nights investigating one person, should we then give them the actual role, or is that too overpowered?
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1067 on: December 18, 2019, 12:33:12 pm »
In Werewolf game 2, this happened. What happened, in the end, was if investigated again, the seer was able to deduce that one of the innocent roles already given to them was wrong

(ie blasonduo was investigated and was either nitwit, security guard or evil werewolf
you investigate blasonduo a second time and notice that there was NO WAY they were the nitwit)

However, what do you all think? Spending 2 nights investigating one person, should we then give them the actual role, or is that too overpowered?

Perhaps cycle between 1 correct and 3 wrong? (I guess similar to game 2 then?) Still sounds a bit OP but beats singling out the exact role.

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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1068 on: December 18, 2019, 12:36:21 pm »
Perhaps cycle between 1 correct and 3 wrong? (I guess similar to game 2 then?) Still sounds a bit OP but beats singling out the exact role.

The thing that gets me is it takes the seer 2 full action nights on one person to get their role. Ionic doc was alive for 3 nights (died on the 3rd so they couldn't even get that information), meaning in their career, they could only completely isolate 1 other player's role, who may not even be evil. So I'd always thought it wasn't THAT OP

What do you mean by cycle between 1 correct and 3 wrong?
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1069 on: December 18, 2019, 12:40:29 pm »
I don’t think that going from 3 possible roles to two is too overpowered, especially given you don’t give out specific werewolf roles anymore (really like that change btw).
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1070 on: December 18, 2019, 01:09:10 pm »
The thing that gets me is it takes the seer 2 full action nights on one person to get their role. Ionic doc was alive for 3 nights (died on the 3rd so they couldn't even get that information), meaning in their career, they could only completely isolate 1 other player's role, who may not even be evil. So I'd always thought it wasn't THAT OP

What do you mean by cycle between 1 correct and 3 wrong?
That sounds a bit OP still. Even if one person, exact investigation on a werewolf still feels too OP

Basically: Suppose Poet was the medic. And I investigated her twice.
Night 1: Medic, Faker, Lookout (all randomly generated)
Night 2: Medic, Faker, Vigilante (only vig was randomly generated)

...and if I investigated her again
Night 3: Medic, Faker, Lookout

So stuck between those 4 roles.

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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1071 on: December 18, 2019, 01:39:22 pm »
That sounds a bit OP still. Even if one person, exact investigation on a werewolf still feels too OP

Basically: Suppose Poet was the medic. And I investigated her twice.
Night 1: Medic, Faker, Lookout (all randomly generated)
Night 2: Medic, Faker, Vigilante (only vig was randomly generated)

...and if I investigated her again
Night 3: Medic, Faker, Lookout

So stuck between those 4 roles.

But to do that you have to either have the possibility that none of the original three will be their role or they’ll just know that vig is wrong anyway. And if it’s a possibility that none of the original three are correct then seer will always have to go on someone twice & will make the role too weak.
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1072 on: December 18, 2019, 01:46:13 pm »
But to do that you have to either have the possibility that none of the original three will be their role or they’ll just know that vig is wrong anyway. And if it’s a possibility that none of the original three are correct then seer will always have to go on someone twice & will make the role too weak.
That's kinda the point to know that vig and LO are wrong. It upgrades the seer from distinguishing between 3 roles, to only 2 roles.

The seer will always be consistently given one correct role, and one incorrect role this way.

I think the seer should have some reward if they choose to visit a house twice. I don't see why the seer should ever be given 3 incorrect roles as a nerf.
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1073 on: December 18, 2019, 01:49:33 pm »
That's kinda the point to know that vig and LO are wrong. It upgrades the seer from distinguishing between 3 roles, to only 2 roles.

The seer will always be consistently given one correct role, and one incorrect role this way.

changing one of the roles the second time round just seems a bit useless. You might as well remove 1 wrong role for the second investigation, leaving two potential roles. That's what blasonduo ended up doing in game 2 when I double investigated someone.
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1074 on: December 18, 2019, 01:50:44 pm »
changing one of the roles the second time round just seems a bit useless. You might as well remove 1 wrong role for the second investigation, leaving two potential roles. That's what blasonduo ended up doing in game 2 when I double investigated someone.
I prefer the consistency over just giving 2.

Gameplay effect? Yes, overall it'd be the same outcome. But it doesn't look consistent to me when only two roles are said.

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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1075 on: January 02, 2020, 01:08:23 pm »
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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1076 on: January 02, 2020, 01:16:34 pm »
Well finally! I haven’t downed a box of popcorn this whole decade.

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Re: Werewolf
« Reply #1077 on: January 02, 2020, 01:24:56 pm »
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« Reply #1078 on: January 02, 2020, 01:25:43 pm »
Well finally! I haven’t downed a box of popcorn this whole decade.
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