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1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« on: December 31, 2009, 02:31:14 am »
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Just another one of those threads lol.


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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 11:37:26 am »
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I don't understand this question:

I did 1/2*20*(2+8)+10*10.5-20=185m

First I found the area of the first 8 seconds using the area of trapezium formula, then counted the square for the curved area then *10 as per square as value of 10, then the last triangle area minus 20.

If I count the squares then *10 it is accurately 11.5*10 which is 115m. It has 10 full squares and 3 half squares. Why is the displacement different when using the area of trapezium formula?


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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 01:28:46 pm »
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It is because the trapezium is only there from 0-6 seconds, you counted the squares until 8 seconds. If you look at the poorly edited attached image (sorry!), then you can count 7.5 squares (75m), and using the area of trapezium formula:
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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 01:33:39 pm »
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Very confusing. Thanks for pointing it out. I thought it looked like trapezium too.
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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2009, 01:38:08 pm »
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Thanks!
Can you help me on last question too?


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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2009, 01:43:22 pm »
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According to the graph, the car is moving at a constant velocity from 4-12 seconds, so it undergoes no acceleration during this time ()
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2009, 02:15:04 pm »
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Thanks another one lol

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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 02:25:11 pm »
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i think its good if you drew the graph and find their intersection, correct me if im wrong.
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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 02:26:52 pm »
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Yea, I attempted that.
I did:
80t=1/2*15*100+100(t-15)
t=37.5s

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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2009, 02:55:03 pm »
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I have already done this question here:

http://vcenotes.com/forum/index.php/topic,21316.0.html
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Re: 1,000,000 Question Thread :D
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 03:05:33 pm »
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Hmm how did you know the acceleration changed form 10-15s?

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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2009, 03:34:28 pm »
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Think about it logically, the car accelerated from 0km/hr to 80km/hr in ten seconds and then from 80km/hr to 100km/hr in five, that means in the first 10 seconds it gained 80hm/hr and in the next five seconds it gained 20km/hr. The car cannot have had a steady acceleration when it gained four times as much velocity in double the amount of time for the first ten seconds.
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2009, 03:36:55 pm »
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Oh! Silly me LOL!
Also, how do you know the variables are identical where you used t and (t-15)
Sometimes it doesnt satisfy though such as when t=10

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 03:47:12 pm »
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I'm not sure I fully understand your question... =\
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2009, 03:56:58 pm »
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When x=1 the equation is false so it doesn't always satisfy. However how come we are allowed to use the same variables (x) on both sides? I guess its just my poor maths skills :S