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Uni Stuff => Universities - Victoria => Monash University => Topic started by: costargh on July 07, 2008, 04:59:33 pm
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Anyone do this course at the moment or planning on applying for it?
Not the Bachelor of Business (Banking and Finance) or Bachelor of Business (Accounting).
I'm talking about the Bachelor of Business course @ Monash Caulfield (where the majors are more diverse)
I found it today and it will probably be one of my top preferences
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Bachelor of Business
Available Majors: accounting, banking and finance, business law, economics, econometrics, human resource management, management and marketing.
CLEARLY IN ENTER 2007: 82.50(CSP)
VCE prerequisites
Units 3 and 4-a study score of at least 25 in both English (any) and mathematics (any).
Course requirements
The degree requires completion of 24 units (144 points) over a maximum of 10 years as follows:
(a) 16 units (96 points) from the faculty in the Bachelor of Business at the Caulfield campus as follows:
(i) six compulsory common core units (36 points)
* AFF1110 Accounting for financial decision making
* BTF1010 Commercial law
* ECF1100 Microeconomics
* ETX1100 Business statistics
* MGF1010 Introduction to management
* MKF1120 Marketing theory and practice
(ii) a major of eight units (48 points)
* the major must come from the approved list of majors below
* at least two units (12 points) must be completed at each of second and third-year levels
(iii) additional units taken in the Bachelor of Business, Caulfield campus to reach the required minimum of 16 units
(b) eight open electives (48 points)
* may be taken from disciplines offered by another faculty
* may be taken from any Faculty of Business and Economics programs and campuses
Additional degree requirements:
* a maximum of 10 first-year level units (60 points)
* a minimum of six third-year level units (36 points), of which at least four units (24 points) must be from those offered by the faculty at the Caulfield campus
* in addition to specific unit prerequisites, third-year level units require the successful completion of two second-year level units and second-year level units require the successful completion of four first-year level units
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If Monash Caulfield have BEco, take a look into that as well. They've revamping it for next year and making it more flexible, so that up to half your units may be taken outside the faculty.
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The BEco is at Clayton (which I would prefer to do actually) but once again my shitness @ methods has made me ineligible for selection =(
25 in methods or spesh and 25 in English... unless this years VTAC guide changes that (OMG WOOD BE THE HAPPIEST PERSON EVER!!!)
Thanks btw
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So your hoping to meet the BBus maths requirement through Further...?
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Yeh... doing Further this year instead (My sig is wrong... i was going to repeat methods but didnt want to drop either Accounting or Economics in year 12 )
Btw check your email
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I'm planning to have BBus(Acc) @ Monash Caulfield as one of my top preferences.
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See... I don't understand why you wouldn't just do the BBus and then if you were 100% sure you wanted to do an Accounting focus, then choose to major in it. Because from what I understand, they are effectively the same course except if you choose BBus (Acc) for example, you have the same 6 core units as the BBus but you can only major in Acc or Business while the BBus is a broad degree for the first year and then you can choose your major after than (ie. You have a broad number of majors to choose from in the event that you completely hate Uni Acc)
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Hmm... I was thinkin of doing banking and finance or acc but I might actually do just BBus since the clearly-in last year was nearly the same as BBus(acc) cause as you mentioned I might hate what I majored in.
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Well just to be clear, I don't think that transfering from BBus (Acc) to BBus would be very hard considering they are effectively the same degree. Just in my situation, I know I want to do something in the field of Commerce but I don't know what, so I ain't gonna lock myself in by choosing the BBus (Acc) or (Economics) etc
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Same here, I'm not entirely certain either.
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I'm also in this line of thought.
But was leaning towards banking and finance, but might only do business.
Does anyone do this course?
Or heard good or bad things?
Is this a big downgrade than commerce?
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Too be truthful, in terms of 'prestige' the BBus is not held in as high esteem as the BCom. If that worries you and you want a better chance at gettin into a big company (eg KPMG etc) then you might want to do BCom... but thats not to say that u cant do BBus and then transfer into the BCom.
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BBus (Caulfield)
* AFF1110 Accounting for financial decision making
* BTF1010 Commercial law
* ECF1100 Microeconomics
* ETX1100 Business statistics
* MGF1010 Introduction to management
* MKF1120 Marketing theory and practice
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BCom (Clayton)
* AFC1021/AFC1022 Accounting principles
* BTC1110 Business law
* ECC1000 Principles of microeconomics
* ETC1000 Business and economic statistics
* MGC1010 Introduction to management
* MKC1200 Principles of marketing
(ii) at least two units from the following list (12 points)
* AFC1100/AFC2100 Introduction to finance, or AFC1030 Introduction to financial accounting
* ECC1100 Principles of macroeconomics
* ETC1010 Data modelling and computing
* MGC1020 Organisations: contexts and strategies
If u ask me, there's not a *whole* lot of difference in the core syllabus.
Aside from that, if you like some of the subjects @ Clayton that aren't @ Caulfield, u can jst take the shuttle bus that runs between Caulfield and Clayton every 25 mins 2g2 classes @ Clayton.
TBH, I think most ppl still in high skool will not *really* know wot they want 2 major in.
I don't know wot I want 2 major in, but the beauty of Monash is that I don't even have 2 start thinking bout that until @ least Sem 2 nxt year.
BBus vs BBus forced major = definitely go the straight BBus and decide ur major after u've 'taste-tested' units from different disciplines.
AND... just let me say that a BBus from Monash is a perfectly respectable degree.
U guyz shouldn't worry about stuff like that.
U should b more concerned bout whether a uni offers wot U want out of higher education, not wot other ppl think bout it.
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Thanks Fyrefly. Yeh I made the comparison too and was suprised how similar they were. I will probably still try and transfer to Commerce @ Clayton because I live close to Clayton but in my mind I have no hesitations finishing my degree of BBus @ Caulfield (if I was accepted). I'm just saying that if you look at the intake of students into graduate jobs... I think the bigger companies prefer a degree in Com @ Melb or Monash over the BBus... but by no means would that make you unemployable and by no means would that make your ability to get a good job impossible.
Once you gain experience your degree IMO becomes less of a priority to employers
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Once you gain experience your degree IMO becomes less of a priority to employers
Your not wrong there. Experience plays a big role
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Aside from that, if you like some of the subjects @ Clayton that aren't @ Caulfield, u can jst take the shuttle bus that runs between Caulfield and Clayton every 25 mins 2g2 classes @ Clayton.
How does that work? So could I do some of the BCom subjects in first semester? =S
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The BEco is at Clayton (which I would prefer to do actually) but once again my shitness @ methods has made me ineligible for selection =(
25 in methods or spesh and 25 in English... unless this years VTAC guide changes that (OMG WOOD BE THE HAPPIEST PERSON EVER!!!)
Thanks btw
dude, im totally in the same boat as you. i dropped methods as well... and REALLY REALLY wanted to get into clayton, but alas can't get into a business course in clayton unless your doing at least methods :( not cool, not cool at all.
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rofl BL methods is like cake and vanilla milkshakes
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The BEco is at Clayton (which I would prefer to do actually) but once again my shitness @ methods has made me ineligible for selection =(
25 in methods or spesh and 25 in English... unless this years VTAC guide changes that (OMG WOOD BE THE HAPPIEST PERSON EVER!!!)
Thanks btw
dude, im totally in the same boat as you. i dropped methods as well... and REALLY REALLY wanted to get into clayton, but alas can't get into a business course in clayton unless your doing at least methods :( not cool, not cool at all.
You could always do a diploma at Monash College? You'll be paying more though.
costargh - they are equivalent units. MGC1010 = MGF1010 for example. They are simply named differently (I believe MGC1010 is Managing People and Organisations as is Business Law = Commerical Law).
There will be subtle differences, but the general gist of the subjects will be similar.
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The BEco is at Clayton (which I would prefer to do actually) but once again my shitness @ methods has made me ineligible for selection =(
25 in methods or spesh and 25 in English... unless this years VTAC guide changes that (OMG WOOD BE THE HAPPIEST PERSON EVER!!!)
Thanks btw
dude, im totally in the same boat as you. i dropped methods as well... and REALLY REALLY wanted to get into clayton, but alas can't get into a business course in clayton unless your doing at least methods :( not cool, not cool at all.
If you dropped methods, I don't think doing commerce is good sign. Commerce is math in every sense (yes, even in management!), and it can get complicated at times. I'm not saying that you shouldn't do commerce, but without having a sound mathematical background (especially to read, interpret and create graphs and other forms of statistics) is a definite necessity, most importantly in finance (Financial Services).
My A$0.02.
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I completely disagree with you Applexy. Not boasting here, but the fact that I get all A's/A+'s in my commerce/ey subjects (legal, business management, accounting and economics) says more about my ability to perform well in Commerce than methods does. Maths methods isn't the only indicator of mathematical ability and one should not be judged on how well they can perform in a commerce degree purely on the fact that the aren't good with integrals.
Btw- thanks excalibur. do you know though say, If I would be able to do 1 or 2 subjects @ clayton towards my degree? (with the intention being to transfer to BCom after I pass (hopefully) the maths methods equivilant subject @ Uni after 1st year?
does anyone know what subject that is called?
mande- I didnt drop methods, I did it last year and got 24 cause im retarded
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I completely disagree with you Applexy. Not boasting here, but the fact that I get all A's/A+'s in my commerce/ey subjects (legal, business management, accounting and economics) says more about my ability to perform well in Commerce than methods does. Maths methods isn't the only indicator of mathematical ability and one should not be judged on how well they can perform in a commerce degree purely on the fact that the aren't good with integrals.
Btw- thanks excalibur. do you know though say, If I would be able to do 1 or 2 subjects @ clayton towards my degree? (with the intention being to transfer to BCom after I pass (hopefully) the maths methods equivilant subject @ Uni after 1st year?
does anyone know what subject that is called?
mande- I didnt drop methods, I did it last year and got 24 cause im retarded
Being bad with integrals would cost you less than 20% on the exams, and you could have done well in Methods still. That said, however, calculus is probably one of the more important parts of Methods with regards to its relevance to a commerce degree.
It's a pre-requisite for a reason. And I can say that quite confidently because those pre-requisites aren't arbitrarily assigned by some government agency -- they are assigned by the universities themselves, the ones that actually have an interest to filter out the crap from the good.
I wouldn't really use VCE subjects as an indicator. Universities don't. They don't use it as a pre-requisite, and I don't think they use it in middle-band considerations.
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The integrals thing was just a reference to methods, I really don't know what's in the methods course to be honest. I know a person who got <50 as her ENTER and is studying BCom. Didn't get straight in through VTAC obviously
ANU doesn't have methods as pre-req for Com. That doens't make the degree harder or the subjects harder. If Monash was keen on filtering out the crap from their uni then they would put methods as a pre-req for all their commerce/ey degrees; Business and Commerce @ Berwick and Business @ Caulfield because they are basically the same/equivalent subjects.
Methods is a pre-req (VCE subject) so I don't knwo why they would be using it as an indicator and not using the similar VCE subjects as an indicator. Eg. Science degrees usually need English + 1 or 2 VCE science subjects right?
Meh- I know methods isnt a good indicator for com but it is of no importance to me anymore cause im gonna get where i wanna be by doing the uni subject that is equivalent and transfering. Just some stupid rule that I have to live with
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I have the same problem as Costargh last year and have posted on the 'other vce forum' regarding the exact same concern. I did further maths (the easier option) not knowing that methods was a prerequisite for Clayton until it was too late. Now im doing really well on my BCommerce degree at Deakin Burwood.
Would I still need to do a method equivalent uni subject to be able to transfer to Clayton next year? :( I really wanna finish my degree at Clayton since i can get there by car very easily. Deakin's study environment is apparently quite good though.
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I meant the VCE commerce subjects, as an indicator for entry into commerce.
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I was just saying, If you can't do methods, then uni math subjects would be difficult.
Eg. Quantitative Methods 1,2.
NPVs (Net Present Value) for Accounting
Brownian Motion for Finance
Advanced Productivity and production measures in management.
Calculus (finding the rate of increase of an asset etc)
I know, you could say, I could use a scientific calc blah... but it's really useful to know them.
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Note that the first two units (or their equivalents) that AppleXY listed are compulsory in the BCom at Melbourne.
Quantitative Methods 1 and 2.
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TBH... I don't think u need that much mathematical knowledge.
McTaggart, D., Findlay, C. & Parkin, M., Economics 5th edition, Pearson Education Australia, 2007 = my micro and macro eco txtbook.
It has an appendix to chapter one that explains how to understand a linear equation >.>
Year 8 stuff.
As long as you can stumble through the compulsory core units that require maths, I don't think the emphasis is on maths *that* much in majors like Business Law, Management, Marketing, Asian Development and Transition, Human Resource Management, or... there's a new major that's done cross-faculty with IT... don't know much about that one tho.
It's easy to say "Oh, Commerce needs maths".
But BCom covers such a broad area of topics, and I don't think it's fair to say that they ALL involve maths.
I think u'll do fine in a BCom degree, so long as u're particularly careful about wot units, majors and minors u do.
And it's not like u and maths r totally incompatible - u did only miss out by a single point after all.
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Still early days Jess...just wait until you get into your econometrics (ETC1100 I think?) stuff :P
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Jo... did I include econometrics in the "does not include maths" list?
Seriously, maybe u didn't do so fantastic in business law coz u're so used to maths u started writing a bunch of integral equations :P
Costa didn't miss out on the margin *that* much.
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Jess, if I got 25 I would be good enough to do Commerce but because I got 24 I wouldn't be able to handle it :P
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BRING IT ON JO, BRING IT ON!! :knuppel2:
*Is trying and failing miserably to start an online punch-on with Jo so he can become furniture*
Aww... I could never b mad @ u Jo, u is 2 nice! ^_^
Note to self: Must seek the wisdom of kido_1 and master the ancient art of internetus assholiness.
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So I e-mailed the friendly staff at Monash University and recieved this reply.
Dear Costa
To meet the Math requirements, you must complete one of two units in the Faculty Science.
MTH1010 or MTH1020. Both these units meet the Math requirements for entry to Clayton based BusEco degrees.
MTH1010 is only offered in semester 1 and is a prerequisite for MTH1020 so you will need to plan your enrolment carefully to be enrolled in MTH1010 in semester 1 of next year. If you pass the unit, you will meet the Math requirements. [for consideration for transfer into Commerce]
Regards
Ross
MTH1010 http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/units/MTH1010.html
I don't think I would do THAT bad at this subject. I could even get a Credit if I really tried. Out of all areas in the methods course besides probability, this would be one of my best (like 40% in methods lol) but yeh I'm happy. I feel like I can do this now =)
The only bit that scares me is this "...rates of change" .
No matter how many times I tried to get my head around this I could never understand that DV/DT bullshit
Also, this subject is at Monash Clayton, am I allowed to do this subject? LOL. I know the answers yes but I want a bit more information. I heard there is a shuttle bus or something between the Uni's. Anyone got any information on it. Am I allowed to do another subject at Monash Clayton in Sem 1? Anyone know?
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So I e-mailed the friendly staff at Monash University and recieved this reply.
Dear Costa
To meet the Math requirements, you must complete one of two units in the Faculty Science.
MTH1010 or MTH1020. Both these units meet the Math requirements for entry to Clayton based BusEco degrees.
MTH1010 is only offered in semester 1 and is a prerequisite for MTH1020 so you will need to plan your enrolment carefully to be enrolled in MTH1010 in semester 1 of next year. If you pass the unit, you will meet the Math requirements. [for consideration for transfer into Commerce]
Regards
Ross
MTH1010 http://www.monash.edu.au/pubs/handbooks/units/MTH1010.html
I don't think I would do THAT bad at this subject. I could even get a Credit if I really tried. Out of all areas in the methods course besides probability, this would be one of my best (like 40% in methods lol) but yeh I'm happy. I feel like I can do this now =)
The only bit that scares me is this "...rates of change" .
No matter how many times I tried to get my head around this I could never understand that DV/DT bullshit
Also, this subject is at Monash Clayton, am I allowed to do this subject? LOL. I know the answers yes but I want a bit more information. I heard there is a shuttle bus or something between the Uni's. Anyone got any information on it. Am I allowed to do another subject at Monash Clayton in Sem 1? Anyone know?
Costa.
"If I really tried" are the famous last words of a uni drop-out.
If you do this, you need to do this properly.
This is a second chance, and you need to respect the opportunity as such.
At university, you quickly learn that you only get out what you put in.
That said and out of the way Costa, if you DO put in the effort, I am confident you will pass (and have a good shot of something above said pass).
Now, as for all your questions! XD
* Monash has free shuttle buses running between Clayton and Caulfield/Berwick/Peninsula campuses. The Clayton/Caulfield shuttle bus (well, in actual fact there are two that run opposite each other) leaves every 25 minutes starting 7.30am and last bus 9.15pm. It's the last bus stop on the bus loop @ Clayton campus, and the bus stop near building B on Caulfield campus. You flash your ID card and you get on for free. I caught it last semester before I intermitted both in the morning and in the evening. The two regular bus drivers are old fashioned, really friendly, and cool ^_^
http://fsd.monash.edu.au/travel-parking/travel/inter-campus/2008-shuttle-bus-services
* Yes, I'm quite sure you're allowed to take Clayton units even though it'd be your first semester at Caulfield. I'm not sure whether there's a cap on *how* many you can take cross-campus, apart from the BBus course requirement that 16 of your units in total be from BusEco @ Caulfield. Since you intend to transfer asap, I don't think it'll be too much of a problem. The danger, however, lies in the possibility of you *not* getting the transfer. You can take up to 8 units off-campus or not from BusEco. If you use all these units up in your first year by going to Clayton, then fail to transfer, you'll find yourself very restricted in your choices in years 2 and 3 of your degree. My advice is to (if you can) only do 1 or 2 subjects @ Clayton each semester next year (one of them obviously being MTH1010) and doing Caulfield the equivalents of the core BCom level 1 units.
Shoot off an email to [email protected] to find out for sure.
Sidenote: They're making a Dandenong campus apparently >.> Any1 heard anything bout it?
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Thanks Jess. What I meant to say was, I know I can pass if I put the effort into it and the more effort I put in the more I will get out of it (ie. maybe even a credit). I know why I got 24 in methods. Pure and simple, not enough effort. Sure, I didn't understand a lot of the concepts but thats because I didnt put in the effort from the start to understand the harder stuff. But yeh, I hope you don't think of me as some guy who thinks he's gonna cruise through this subject cause thats certainly not what I meant. I was meaning to say that If I put my mind to it, I think I can get more than just a pass (ie. a pass is what i require but I want more than that)
Thanks for that info on the shuttle bus. Should come in handy.
I don't think I would consider doing all my subjects at Clayton (I'm not even sure that you can do that) but like you said. 1 or 2 subjects (sem 1 mth1010 plus one more and either 1 or 2 commerce subjects in sem 2) should be alrite if I am able to do that.
I replied to the email I got this afternoon about that situation of studying at Caulfield/Clayton and should get a response in the next few days so thanks.
Haven't heard of that Dandenong campus thing.
What are you studying by the way Jess?
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I don't know how helpful this is but at clayton:
MTH1010 ~ Methods level/equivalent, for people who only did further/no maths
MTH1020 ~ Spec level/equivalent
MTH1030 ~ start of proper uni maths
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Thanks caramel, I was fairly sure that was the general jist of 1010, 1020 and 1030 (although wasn't sure with 1030), but my brother did 1020 this year with 31 in methods and passed that. I have the advantage of previously actually doing methods (just getting 24, lol) so mth1010 shouldn't be too bad compared to mth1020 (analysis of change) YUCCK.
I've looked at some of 1020 stuff from my brother. It isn't as bad as I thought. Some of it looked methods level stuff. Damn, I'm so pumped to get into this course and do this mth1010 so I can apply for Commerce. I would be the happiest person alive if that happened
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BCom @ Clayton, and a Dip in Languages (Jap).
Can't start the Jap part until next year tho.
And no, I didn't think that Costa, but I just want to make sure you get yourself in the right mindset.
It's all about the mindset ;)
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Wow, sounds good. What are your subjects this semester? You're doing two subjects right?
Yeh, I know what you mean about the mindset. I'm not delusional about this either. Its a strange predicament you find yourself in where you think you have a chance of getting the required ENTER for your course but fell just short in a pre-requisite the year before. It feels like limbo and makes you feel like your goals are so far away (one more year) but I don't want to have this feeling again. I KNOW I can pass this subject. This is supposed to be the easiest maths available (maybe besides first year statistics or something which my brother described as further maths like) and I know that if I could utilise this option, I wouldn't give a half arsed job. I am confident I can get D's of HD's for my BBus subjects which should be close to the requirement for transfer. I know I can do this. I think, the fact that its only one semester also serves as an advantage to me. Because this subject isn't as extensive as the methods course which gives me the best opportunity to pass and maybe even credit or higher.
i am excited jess lol
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I'm glad Costa ^_^
You've found a passion.
It makes me envious actually ...I have things that I like and enjoy, but I've yet to find my passion.
This semester I'm doing:
* BTC1110: Business law
* ECC1000: Principles of microeconomics
* MGC1010: Introduction to management
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Wow, that looks cool. They are three of the core units right?
They all interest me (which is why I don't know what specific field I intend to pursue)
Uni level microeconomics sounds awesome =)
Business law sounds like it could have really cool applications to real life (I hope this makes sense) hence sounds mad
Intro to management- Sounds awesome too- I wonder how this is explored at uni level.
I hope you enjoy all your subjects this semester. Let me know which ones are your favourite, easiest, hardest etc so I can get an idea for my plans =)
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Shall do.
And yes, core units.
I'm going to do the core units first to get a feel for the different areas of study, then use results/experiences/enjoyment to decide what to major in.
Sidenote: DW, I'm finished taking ova ur thread XD XD
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Yeh I definitely agree with your approach to the degree.
Lol kk no more side chat :P
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Just thought I'd chip in here as I'm a first year doing this course (though I'm doing the Accounting major, it's basically the same thing).
In first semester I did Management (MGF1010), Comm Law (BTF1010), Accounting (AFF1110) and Microeconomics (ECF1100). To be honest you saying you KNOW you can D's and HD's in uni (something in which you've never experienced) seems a bit wrong to me. It looks easy on the outside but once you get in you realise it actually does require work. For example one of my mates that I go to uni with, got a much better ENTER than me and failed two subjects last semester. The transition can be difficult.
Anyway, the academic part of the course has been good so far. However Caulfield seems to suck socially. Don't know why but it just does.
Feel free to ask me any questions mate I'll be happy to answer them.
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Thanks for that Paulie,
I never said I KNOW I can get D's and HD's for BBus subjects. I said I am 'confident' I can do this.(with focus and hard work) That doesn't mean that I will get it but confidence is a great thing to have in study.
I said I KNOW I can pass the maths subject if I put effort into it.
Just thought I'd clear up your misinterpretation of my post.
What are you enjoying in the course at the moment? Is there a real 'learning culture' within the system or is it real laid-back with a lot of the students?
Thanks
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Yeah sorry mate should have been paying more attention to what I was reading.
Enjoying in the course at the moment? Academically I really like Microeconomics last semester (having never done any economics before) and this semester i'm not minding Accounting systems and procedures (the 2nd unit of accounting). But most of all I just enjoy going there, meeting new people, catching up with friends I've made there and learning stuff that I'm interested in.
The culture is hard to talk about really. Within the population of local students (like myself) most people are pretty laid back and take a pretty cool approach to the whole system. On the other hand, I've noticed the international students treat it really seriously and are very interested in doing well. However these are pretty huge generalisations and like most things it comes down to the individual.
Feel free to ask me anything else.
P.S. Sorry for the late reply been a bit busy.
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Well said. For me, economics was the most surprising thing about commerce. Commerce was originally just part of my double degree "because I could."
Now I am less interested about engineering, and way more interested in commerce.
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what jobs are you likely to have when u graduate? what sort of jobs and at what sort of companies? how is the job market looking for the next few years?
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Bump.
So how many people have this course on their preferences and if so at what preference? What major do you wish to study?
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I've decided that i will put this course 3rd preference.
Majoring in Accounting or Banking and finance...I haven't decided yet.
1st pref was originally BComm @ UoM...but i have like no chance of that now, so i'll take it off when i get my enter.
So then 1st Pref will be Commerce (Accounting+Finance) @ Monash
2nd Pref Commerce @ Monash
3rd pref Business @ Monash
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Oooops i just realised on the first page you said
"Not the Bachelor of Business (Banking and Finance) or Bachelor of Business (Accounting)"
Those are the 2 i'm tossing up between :P
But then, what is the difference between Bachelor of Business (Accounting) and Bachelor of Business majoring in Accounting? ???
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Essentialy nothing, except Business you're not limited iin ur major
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Ahhh ok thanks :)
So I'm guessing the same would apply for Commerce (Accounting+Finance) and Commerce @ Monash?
If so, why is the enter higher for Commerce (Accounting+Finance) ? lol
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Demand/supply
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A typically economic answer ::) :P
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LoL :P
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Bump.
So how many people have this course on their preferences and if so at what preference? What major do you wish to study?
It's currently second on mine (with Clayton Commerce first). I don't know what I'm going to major in, which is sorta why I chose it. Though a lot of commerce courses have a general first year, RMIT makes you choose your major from the get go, and La Trobe has some weird professional recognition (you have to do Accounting for CPA/ICAA and even though you study it in Business, you can only get recognition from either a marketing or hr association doing that course).
Re-reading Monash's course thingy, I think I like Caulfield's course structure better than Clayton's. There's only 6 compulsory first year subjects as opposed to the Clayton's 8, though looking at the list of compulsory units, all of the majors except for Business Law, HR Management and Marketing ask you to complete additional units in the first year, which sorta makes that point moot.
I'm still a bit unclear on some things, though. For electives, it says that they can be outside the faculty, but does that include outside the campus? For example, if I go to Caulfield, can I study a language at Clayton? Say that's the case, but I also need to do 7 business units, what options do I have in continuing that language? Also, do the units that start with a '1' have to be completed in the first year? Just wanted to make sure, thanks for any help.
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Bump.
So how many people have this course on their preferences and if so at what preference? What major do you wish to study?
It's currently second on mine (with Clayton Commerce first). I don't know what I'm going to major in, which is sorta why I chose it. Though a lot of commerce courses have a general first year, RMIT makes you choose your major from the get go, and La Trobe has some weird professional recognition (you have to do Accounting for CPA/ICAA and even though you study it in Business, you can only get recognition from either a marketing or hr association doing that course).
Re-reading Monash's course thingy, I think I like Caulfield's course structure better than Clayton's. There's only 6 compulsory first year subjects as opposed to the Clayton's 8, though looking at the list of compulsory units, all of the majors except for Business Law, HR Management and Marketing ask you to complete additional units in the first year, which sorta makes that point moot.
I'm still a bit unclear on some things, though. For electives, it says that they can be outside the faculty, but does that include outside the campus? For example, if I go to Caulfield, can I study a language at Clayton? Say that's the case, but I also need to do 7 business units, what options do I have in continuing that language? Also, do the units that start with a '1' have to be completed in the first year? Just wanted to make sure, thanks for any help.
Level 1 units do not have 2 b completed in 1st year, but they r '1st year'/beginner units.
Pretty sure there's a max of 10 lvl 1 units u're allowed 2 do (or some number close 2 that).
Yes, u can do a language @ Clayton if u're studying @ Caulfield.
If u're short on credit points and will b unable 2 complete a language major, then u can complete a concurrent dip in languages 4 ur chosen language
...or (if ur results r good enuf) u can overload 4 a semester or 2 so u can complete the required units.
I'm sure there r other options as well, but in short it sounds like u'll b able 2 do wot u want 2 do (gathering I figured that out properly from ur post XD).
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not a bad degree. considering the wide range of specialisations that are offered.
personally i would major in marketing as employment prospects are endless
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Oversupply of marketing graduates
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Oversupply of marketing graduates
Agreed.
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:( I like marketing. The fellow at the open day seemed nice, yelling at people who bought $300 pants.
Level 1 units do not have 2 b completed in 1st year, but they r '1st year'/beginner units.
Pretty sure there's a max of 10 lvl 1 units u're allowed 2 do (or some number close 2 that).
Yes, u can do a language @ Clayton if u're studying @ Caulfield.
If u're short on credit points and will b unable 2 complete a language major, then u can complete a concurrent dip in languages 4 ur chosen language
...or (if ur results r good enuf) u can overload 4 a semester or 2 so u can complete the required units.
I'm sure there r other options as well, but in short it sounds like u'll b able 2 do wot u want 2 do (gathering I figured that out properly from ur post XD).
Thanks for the reply. Cleared up some things for me. ^^
Really, I shouldn't be talking about this stuff now. Don't even know if I'll get in. Only four days to go, though.
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:( I like marketing. The fellow at the open day seemed nice, yelling at people who bought $300 pants.
Level 1 units do not have 2 b completed in 1st year, but they r '1st year'/beginner units.
Pretty sure there's a max of 10 lvl 1 units u're allowed 2 do (or some number close 2 that).
Yes, u can do a language @ Clayton if u're studying @ Caulfield.
If u're short on credit points and will b unable 2 complete a language major, then u can complete a concurrent dip in languages 4 ur chosen language
...or (if ur results r good enuf) u can overload 4 a semester or 2 so u can complete the required units.
I'm sure there r other options as well, but in short it sounds like u'll b able 2 do wot u want 2 do (gathering I figured that out properly from ur post XD).
Thanks for the reply. Cleared up some things for me. ^^
Really, I shouldn't be talking about this stuff now. Don't even know if I'll get in. Only four days to go, though.
yeah I'm thinking about ENTER more and more :(
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why the :(? i'm sure you'll be fine. only 2 days, 19 hours and 44 minutes to go!
really, besides the time left till results, i don't think about my enter too much. it's only when i go on here that my heart starts to race.
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why the :(?
the anxiety!
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why the anxiety? are you planning to do law or something? besides the no sleeping thing, i'm fine.
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lol no, I thought everyone was anxious. I shud avoid VN cause I'm fine when I'm not on it, but when I go on... I feel more nervous.
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I was anxious at the start, but now I'm too tired to be anything but hungry and sometimes thirsty.
I think it's because I still have the delusion that I'm actually gonna get the enter I want. When I get my results, that's when I'll start panicking.
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I'm not as anxious as a lot of people because I know 100% that I'll get enough for BBus. (not being cocky, im just realistic)
Theres nothing we can do about our ENTER now so stop worrying :)
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I wish we were all blessed with your confidence, but at least you're right about it being out of our hands. There's not that much time for worrying anyway.
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Yeh. Keep yourself occupied for the next few days if you feel anxious. Watch a season of a DVD or something. That'll kill a lot of time. Or if you have ur p's, go visit some mates.
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Yep yep. Just finished watching Mad Men season 1.
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i just got halo 3, this should keep me busy for the weekend. I work sunday night 4pm - 9pm so that should kill some hours
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I got work from 10-5 on Sunday, that should sorta take things off my mind. Then after I come home I hope I feel tired so I can easily go to sleep!
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I got work from 10-5 on Sunday, that should sorta take things off my mind. Then after I come home I hope I feel tired so I can easily go to sleep!
haha that's what i'm hoping, i wanna be real tired. I remember last year i woke up about 6 times always thinking it was 7am. It never was tho lol
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what 3/4 sequences did u do last year clinton and howd u go?