Getting a 50 in English

[werdna]

^Not necessarily true.  I got 56/60 and ended up with a 46.  A friend of mine also got 56/60 and ended up with a 42.

Unless you go to a good school, it is almost guaranteed that your SACs in English will fuck you over.

This is definitely true - SACs really do matter, particularly in English. I got a 46 but had a much lower exam score than you (52/60) but I was rank 1 with SACs in a weak cohort so strangely these SAC scores were moderated up. Moral of the story OP - smash your SACs, maintain a high rank, and smash the exam. Easier said than done though..

[nisha]

You inspire me to do this:)

[Surgeon]

Obtaining 10/10 on a piece is proving much more difficult than I initially thought it would be.. I have a teacher at my school mark my essays (she has been assessor for English for many years) which are done under exam conditions and I've found that the difference between a 9 and 10 is monumental. Also, very subjective. I'm getting 9s on almost every essay, with the occasional 8 or 10.

She commends my arguments and approaches to the pieces and likes the fact that I don't use the same ideas and arguments as everyone else. The one problem is that I'm not clear/concise enough in some areas and waffle a little too much with "fluffer" words to "show off my vocavulary". Haha.

Things are going okay for this point in the year though, I guess. I'm still equally ranked 1st in the cohort for SACs at this point and that's always a good thing.

[Surgeon]

On another note, what mark would someone generally need on the exam to get a Premiers' award for English? 59/60+?

How many people get the Premiers' award for English and how many people usually get a 50 in the subject?

Thanks guys

[charmanderp]

100 50's and 20 Premier's Awards. And you'd probably need 60 with 100% SACs.

[Surgeon]

100 50's and 20 Premier's Awards. And you'd probably need 60 with 100% SACs.

Oh wow... Would that many people in the state get a perfect score on the exam...?

[charmanderp]

Probably not. The range of 50's would be something like 57/60 - 60/60 with around 100% SACs. Remember, there are about 40,000 students who sit the English exam, which means only 1 in 400 scores 57, 58, 59 or 60 on the exam, or indeed manages a raw 50.

But I'm sure there are at least 20 people (1 in 2000) who manage 60/60 :p

[Surgeon]

Probably not. The range of 50's would be something like 57/60 - 60/60 with around 100% SACs. Remember, there are about 40,000 students who sit the English exam, which means only 1 in 400 scores 57, 58, 59 or 60 on the exam, or indeed manages a raw 50.

But I'm sure there are at least 20 people (1 in 2000) who manage 60/60 :p

Well, my dreams of getting a Premiers' for English are down the drain lol

[astone788]

don't worry man. You may not win the nobel prize in Eng, but I'm sure you'll reach that goal of becoming a doctor. Keep it up bro.

[Surgeon]

don't worry man. You may not win the nobel prize in Eng, but I'm sure you'll reach that goal of becoming a doctor. Keep it up bro.

Thanks mate, it really means a lot! I wish you the best of luck in your studies and hope you get to where you want to be.

[pi]

Yeah, 59/60 will not get you a Premiers in English, even with full mark SACs.

[thushan]

There are two elements to a good VCE English essay - the two B's:

1. Big Words
2. Bullshit

nah...i meant

1. Excessive lexical density
2. Sentences with lexically dense clauses subordinately related
3. Extensive use of jargon and doublespeak

With those, you can bullshit any examiner into giving you a 10.

JKS

Nah, I wouldn't know, but I could imagine that you just need to hunt through your book and look for the most obscure yet sophisticated analysis of the book and own it as your silver bullet. In other words, make up stuff.

Oh and btw - Premier's in English (100% SACs and 60/60) would be pretty effing impressive. Hats off to ppl who get Premiers' in English...

[Nobby]

http://www.bigwords.com/bigwords/       for those who wanna learn big words and stuff

But in all seriousness, does anyone know of a decent dictionary to use for English? Preferably one that doesn't give you crap like, oscitancy: of or pertaining to oscitance

[pi]

Super helpful post there thushan. Go back to the english lang board

[thushan]

LOL it was meant to be tongue in cheek