Jump from Legal.. Unit 1/2 to Unit 3/4

[Abdi]

it helps to know some basic concepts in legal studies early on so doing units 1/2 is always helpful. In saying that, it isn't essential so you can get away without doing 1/2 and manage a 50. Legal is great and exciting make sure you know your stuff and stand out. stand out. stand out. stand out. stand out. yes i repeated the same 2 words 5 times over but you should know there's nothing ore important in legal  than standing out. oh and make sure you stand out in a positive manner, don't draw dicks or john howard in the hope your 50 year old examiner enjoys superbad humor.

ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! It is imperative you get an extra Karma!

[eeps]

You're right. I got A+,A+,A+ for my 41.

I thought so. wow, so basically getting A+'s will guarantee a score of 40+. hard-core!

it helps to know some basic concepts in legal studies early on so doing units 1/2 is always helpful. In saying that, it isn't essential so you can get away without doing 1/2 and manage a 50. Legal is great and exciting make sure you know your stuff and stand out. stand out. stand out. stand out. stand out. yes i repeated the same 2 words 5 times over but you should know there's nothing ore important in legal  than standing out. oh and make sure you stand out in a positive manner, don't draw dicks or john howard in the hope your 50 year old examiner enjoys superbad humor.

lol, I'll take note of that: I SHOULD NOT draw dicks or jonny howard on my exam paper!

[Yitzi_K]

I can't understand how people are saying they like Legal studies.. I found it deathly boring, it was awful, there's no skill or intelligence required, you simply have to memorise a textbook

no skill or intelligence required, hrmm you sure sound ignorant

Well I got a 41, putting me in the top 6% of the state in the subject, and I stand by what I said. Nothing you do in the Legal Studies VCE course requires any skill whatsoever. There is not a single question you can possibly get whose answer cannot be found in the textbook. So all that is necessary to do, is memorise the textbook.

[laynie]

I can't understand how people are saying they like Legal studies.. I found it deathly boring, it was awful, there's no skill or intelligence required, you simply have to memorise a textbook

lol rote learning well is a skill.

[Fyrefly]

I can't understand how people are saying they like Legal studies.. I found it deathly boring, it was awful, there's no skill or intelligence required, you simply have to memorise a textbook

no skill or intelligence required, hrmm you sure sound ignorant

Well I got a 41, putting me in the top 6% of the state in the subject, and I stand by what I said. Nothing you do in the Legal Studies VCE course requires any skill whatsoever. There is not a single question you can possibly get whose answer cannot be found in the textbook. So all that is necessary to do, is memorise the textbook.

hence why 6% of the state beat you

Was about to say something like that...

[Yitzi_K]

True, obviously I didn't have it memorised well enough. But that was only through lack of effort, not lack of skill.

Whatever, I'm not here to start an argument, all I'm saying is I found it boring because it's just rote learning without requiring any logical thinking or understanding.

[eeps]

lols. I'm getting the feeling that Legal is pretty easy subject to do well in!... basically all I need to do is memorise content in the textbook for Year 12! Thanks for feedback! anyhow... really insightful stuff, coming from people who've done Legal b4. (Y)

[spaciiey]

I got 45 through high A plusses, and doing well on the exam, but I wasn't top of the cohort -- apparently I was second. Me and another handful of kids were fighting for the top position all year, but a fair few of them bombed out in the exam -- the next best score was 38 and we were expecting at least another 40. It's not so much how well you do in the SACs, it's more of absolutely blitzing the exam, really.

I forgot to add the thing that makes it hard is that it's so easy -- contradiction, yes, but it's probably true. THAT's really why (I think) it's so hard to get above 40. Every mark you drop in the exam is probably near comparable to dropping a mark in say, Further.

By the way, I back what's been said -- Legal is all about rote learning and how well you can memorise stuff. That is the skin and bones of it. How well you memorise it and what sort of detail you go into, how coherently you structure your answers, how much time you spend practicing writing them, how you identify what examiners are looking for in a model answer -- that's the extra stuff that's also important in doing well.

[eeps]

I got 45 through high A plusses, and doing well on the exam, but I wasn't top of the cohort -- apparently I was second. Me and another handful of kids were fighting for the top position all year, but a fair few of them bombed out in the exam -- the next best score was 38 and we were expecting at least another 40. It's not so much how well you do in the SACs, it's more of absolutely blitzing the exam, really.

I forgot to add the thing that makes it hard is that it's so easy -- contradiction, yes, but it's probably true. THAT's really why (I think) it's so hard to get above 40. Every mark you drop in the exam is probably near comparable to dropping a mark in say, Further.

By the way, I back what's been said -- Legal is all about rote learning and how well you can memorise stuff. That is the skin and bones of it. How well you memorise it and what sort of detail you go into, how coherently you structure your answers, how much time you spend practicing writing them, how you identify what examiners are looking for in a model answer -- that's the extra stuff that's also important in doing well.

lol. thanks for the advice! I'll keep that in mind.

[lynt.br]

When I did Legal Studies, it was my first VCE subject and I thought I could get by fine just by giving the same answers the textbook gave and mimicking the examiner report answers. The result was Legal Studies became my 7th subject and I felt like I had received a study score that did not reflect my knowledge of the course. Similarly, most of my class had received SS much lower than anticipated, despite feeling like we all had an answer for every question they could throw at us.

When I spoke to high achieving students, most of them succeeded because they took that little bit of extra effort to stand out from the rest of the state who, like me, just rote-learned the textbook. I know people who constantly threw in cases to illustrate points they were making, or who extended answers beyond what the textbook said.

What I'm trying to say to the OP is don't think that you can just memorise the subject matter and expect to get a SS of 45+. You have to remember your SS is a reflection of how much 'better' you are compared to the rest of the state and not a reflection of how much you think you know about the subject. You should really seek any competitive advantage you can get, rather than just relying on memorisation when the rest of the state is going to do the same. This applies to most other VCE subjects as well.

I thought so. wow, so basically getting A+'s will guarantee a score of 40+. hard-core!

Not necessarily. I got three A+'s and got a SS of 39. Then again this was back in 2008 so things might have changed since then.

[eeps]

When I did Legal Studies, it was my first VCE subject and I thought I could get by fine just by giving the same answers the textbook gave and mimicking the examiner report answers. The result was Legal Studies became my 7th subject and I felt like I had received a study score that did not reflect my knowledge of the course. Similarly, most of my class had received SS much lower than anticipated, despite feeling like we all had an answer for every question they could throw at us.

When I spoke to high achieving students, most of them succeeded because they took that little bit of extra effort to stand out from the rest of the state who, like me, just rote-learned the textbook. I know people who constantly threw in cases to illustrate points they were making, or who extended answers beyond what the textbook said.

What I'm trying to say to the OP is don't think that you can just memorise the subject matter and expect to get a SS of 45+. You have to remember your SS is a reflection of how much 'better' you are compared to the rest of the state and not a reflection of how much you think you know about the subject. You should really seek any competitive advantage you can get, rather than just relying on memorisation when the rest of the state is going to do the same. This applies to most other VCE subjects as well.

I thought so. wow, so basically getting A+'s will guarantee a score of 40+. hard-core!

Not necessarily. I got three A+'s and got a SS of 39. Then again this was back in 2008 so things might have changed since then.

Thanks! cleared things up for me.

[Christiano]

I skipped 1&2 and went straight into 3&4. I've been getting A's and A+ ..seriously I haven't really done any hardcore study for it so far, just studying the day before the SAC's .. You should do great!

[eeps]

I skipped 1&2 and went straight into 3&4. I've been getting A's and A+ ..seriously I haven't really done any hardcore study for it so far, just studying the day before the SAC's .. You should do great!

LOL. good job. Thanks.. good luck to you as well.

[spaciiey]

it's okay to study the day before the sacs, as long as you still retain the information all the way to the end of the year. legal is content heavy -- you either know it or you don't. a lot of the kids in my class last year didnt study much for the sacs and did well -- got a's and a plusses -- but then assumed they didnt have to study the exam and bombed out, and so most of their scores got dragged down significantly. if you're not going to study too much, please be careful because it can and does cost you at the end of the year.