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Title: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 12:37:43 pm
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Hey all! I'm holding an "Ask Me Anything" sort of deal in this thread. Basically how it works is, you ask whatever you want, and I answer it in as much detail as I can!

You can ask me about anything, from study techniques, to uni experiences, to favourite characters on Married at First Sight. Basically, whatever comes to mind (within reason), so long as it adheres to the ATAR Notes rules. ;)

Some things you might like to know about me:
* I graduated in 2012 with an ATAR of 99.65
* I then studied a Bachelor of Arts (Honours) for four years, and achieved a High Distinction in every unit I studied
* I now work at ATAR Notes!

I enjoy footy and cricket, cats and dogs, Rubik's cubing, travelling, and decaffeinated coffee. Five of my six subjects scaled down (and the sixth scaled up almost negligibly). I've relatively recently re-watched the entire 2004 and 2005 series of Big Brother (this is a big thing to admit this - I'm not sure why I am hahaha).

Whatever it is you want to know, I'm here to try my best to answer it!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: RuiAce on March 22, 2018, 12:39:56 pm
How do you keep your coffee consumption under control? (Assuming you did eventually :P)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Calebark on March 22, 2018, 12:47:01 pm
You're such a jolly presence on the forums. What's your favourite joke?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 01:00:46 pm
How do you keep your coffee consumption under control? (Assuming you did eventually :P)

I don't, really - I just moved to decaf. I still have a large (decaf) coffee every day. I honestly think the effects were largely placebo for me - as soon as I'm holding a coffee (even if I know it's decaf), I feel a bit better.

It was getting to a pretty ridiculous point where I was really needing coffee in the morning to function properly, and that's obviously not a good thing at all. I also had this underlying anxiety, which was affecting me. Since changing over to decaf, which was a couple of months ago, that dependency has gone. I feel now like I could easily go without coffee entirely - I just enjoy having it now.

I also drink more tea now.

It's one of those things, though, which is bit-by-bit. If you want to reduce your caffeine intake, you can - and the hardest part is practically always starting.

You're such a jolly presence on the forums. What's your favourite joke?

My favourite joke? I have one, but it's better delivered in-person/via video form. If you're lucky, I'll upload a version of it later on in this thread. ;) But for now, here's a banger:

Q. Why did the teacher wear sunglasses?
Spoiler
Because their students were so bright.

All-time classic.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: beatroot on March 22, 2018, 01:29:48 pm
Since you mentioned it, who are your favourite people on Married at First Sight? Thoughts on the """"final twist"""" in last night's episode ;)
Any tips on how to look past the 'clique' culture at university? As someone who's also doing a bachelor in arts, I find this to be a problem in my uni life at the moment.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: heids on March 22, 2018, 01:32:08 pm
What is the meaning of life? :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: uhoh on March 22, 2018, 01:39:02 pm
hey! thanks for doing this :)

how do you manage/ organise your time and get stuff done? to do lists, schedules/ timetables, something else?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Frew on March 22, 2018, 01:40:11 pm
I'm in year 12, standard English. Study techniques you used? maybe specifically for english. Motivation.. How do you find the motivation.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: blasonduo on March 22, 2018, 02:16:07 pm
You have a golf club and 2 balls, a baseball and a tennis ball.

You hit both as far as you can, which one will go further and why?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 02:25:19 pm
Since you mentioned it, who are your favourite people on Married at First Sight? Thoughts on the """"final twist"""" in last night's episode ;)
Any tips on how to look past the 'clique' culture at university? As someone who's also doing a bachelor in arts, I find this to be a problem in my uni life at the moment.

I like John. He seems like a truly pleasant man, and I appreciate that. Unassuming, humble, kind. I honestly haven't watched much of this series, though (I have in the past). I think the whole show is pretty ridiculous haha, but maybe that's why people like it. I won't throw out spoilers in case people are planning to watch it and haven't yet, but the most things that have happened have made me pretty uncomfortable. I guess it's a good lesson that everything you do has consequences.

Regarding the clique culture, sorry to hear that! I think it depends on where those cliques are coming from. Are they in your classes? Your course more generally? Or just people you see around? I never really had a consistent group of friends at uni, so I think I know what you mean, and it can be pretty disheartening to say the least. What I'll say is that you don't need to be friends with everybody, but you know that already.

Have you tried approaching those in your classes? I'm not advocating making your own clique, but like, if you have your own friends around you, the existing cliques probably won't impact you as much. Tough one.

What is the meaning of life? :)

To enjoy it.

hey! thanks for doing this :)

how do you manage/ organise your time and get stuff done? to do lists, schedules/ timetables, something else?

Hey, no worries!

Good question. I've never liked study timetables - in fact, I dislike them with a passion! Haha. In Year 11 or Year 12 or something, my school tried to get everybody organised and suggested using study timetables. I took one look at it, tried to block in some study periods, and thought, "this literally makes no sense". Like, how could I forecast several days into the future when I should be studying for certain subjects, or when I should be resting? It just felt really limiting to me, and whilst I like structure in my life, that much structure was just cramping my style.

I don't really get them, either, because like, what happens if you have English revision scheduled for 7-8 on a Tuesday, and then don't do it? Either you beat yourself up about it, or the timetable is seemingly fruitless - and neither of those options is good.

What I use religiously is to-do lists. I used them through high school, I used them very much at uni, and I use them very much at work. To me, they're like study timetables insofar as you document everything you need to do, but they have greater efficacy for a number of reasons:

* You're not blocked into doing things at certain times. For example, if you have an English exam coming up, but have scheduled in Maths revision, what do you do? Ignore your exam? Ignore your timetable? Something has to give. With to-do lists, on the other hand, you can simply get through the tasks one-by-one in an order you deem most appropriate at the time.
* With to-do lists, you can carry over tasks. Despite using a to-do list basically every day, I don't think I've ever finished one; that is, I've never got through every single task I had on my list for that day. But that's fine, because when I don't complete something on my list, it goes straight to the top of tomorrow's. If I don't get through it again, it becomes bold on the next day's. And then a bigger font. And then highlighted. It gets to the point that that task looks so obnoxiously horrible on the page that it's satisfaction in itself to simply get it off the list. And the only way to do that is to finish the task.
* To me, the satisfaction of physically crossing things off is satisfying, and provides reinforcement.

One might argue that to get around all of my gripes with study timetables, you should just block in "study" - and nothing subject-specific. But to me, this is just as silly - what happens if you're really, really tired during one of those periods? What if you feel like going for a walk instead? Trying to force yourself into studying at times that don't suit you is just silly IMO, and will probably be counter-productive if anything.

Don't get me wrong: there'll probably be times where you kinda need to study but don't feel like it, and you just have to take it. Hard work and the like means that you'll probably sometimes study when you don't feel like it. But if you're in a really, really bad mood, or you just need to rest, trying to study probably won't do much for you, and that's where my issue with study timetables comes in: they're inflexible. And if they are flexible, is it really a timetable?

I actually wrote about organisation and using to-do lists in this article, which might interest you. :)

I'm in year 12, standard English. Study techniques you used? maybe specifically for english. Motivation.. How do you find the motivation.

Hey Frew, welcome to ATAR Notes! Great first post. ;) How are you finding Year 12 overall?

To answer question-by-question:

Study techniques:
For me, these depended a bit on the subject at hand. A lot of my subjects weren't that conceptually difficult, but had a lot of content to get my head around. My memory is usually decent (except for names and times and faces, when I suck lol), but I worked hard on it with different memory techniques and stuff. If I had to learn definitions, I'd usually rote learn them. I know people say not to do this, but I don't see a big issue with it for definitions with the proviso that you still understand it. Rote learning probably isn't the best if you're just learning the succession of words, but if you're learning the words and their meaning, I think you could be doing worse. For other content, I was huge on making summaries. I'd read a chapter of a textbook or something, and then summarise it. And then I'd summarise that summary. And then I'd summarise that summary. And so on. I'd do this until I had a nice one-page sheet that covered the entire concept. What I could then do is give that sheet to practically anybody, and get them to test me. What you'll find is you'll probably be able to speak about a lot more than what's on the page itself (due to the summary process).

For maths, I just flogged the practice questions - particularly near the end of the year. I'm a decent maths student - not the best, not the worst - and I found that the repetition of practice questions really helped. Eventually, you get to understand the ways in which questions are asked, and you can pick up some exam tricks along the way.

I also did a folio subject (two in Year 11, just the one in Year 12), and what I'll say here is that consistency is really helpful. Please don't try to cram your folio, because you simply can't. Doing it bit by bit is IMO way better than doing it all in one chunk.

But yeah, I think summaries and stuff probably helped me most. It depends on what type of learner you are, though. I know people who learnt stuff through song; others learnt stuff through diagrams. I liked summaries, but that doesn't mean that you will!

Specifically in relation to English, I didn't study Standard English. In fact, I didn't study Advanced English, either (I'm from Victoria). But my best advice here is: just write. No matter what you're writing about or analysing, just get something on the page. Then, look at what you wrote, and see how you could make it better (both in terms of expression and content). Get feedback on it from your teacher or here on ATAR Notes in the HSC Marking and Feedback board. Then re-write the entire thing. Keep re-writing it until you're happy with it, and until your teacher is happy with it. Writing one amazing essay like this (going through rounds of feedback etc.) is IMO more useful than writing five fresh ones with no feedback at all. You could be losing marks in the same way over and over, but if you don't go through the feedback process, how would you know?

So that's probably my best advice here: just write - and then improve it. :)

Motivation:
This is a really individual thing. For me, I think I just enjoy doing well and pushing myself academically. I was never at the top of my class through high school until Year 12. We had this "general academic excellence" award, which was given to probably the top 25% of our year, every year (so, Year 7, Year 8, Year 9 etc.). I was never included in this - never in the top 25%. And then in Year 12 I thought, "stuff it - I'm going to prove these people wrong", and I ended up duxing my school.

Another part of it was probably just keeping my options open. I didn't really know what I wanted to study in Year 12, and so I figured I should put myself in the best possible position come the end of the year. As it worked out, my ATAR was good enough to enter virtually any course. I didn't "need" my ATAR in the end, but it did get me a scholarship - and that's also something to keep in mind. Your ATAR isn't everything in any sense, but it can certainly give you so options.

You have a golf club and 2 balls, a baseball and a tennis ball.

You hit both as far as you can, which one will go further and why?

Hmm. This sounds like a question a lot of people would know the answer to, but which I certainly don't know the answer to hahaha. What are the weather conditions?

I'm a lot more familiar with tennis balls than baseballs, but I'm going to guess the former. I think the winner would largely be contingent on weight of the ball, and perhaps the baseball would be slightly too heavy? I'm really not sure. Is there an actual answer to this?

P.S. If I were to hit it, I think the tennis ball would be the winner.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: PolySquared on March 22, 2018, 02:43:07 pm
What subjects did you do and what study score did you obtain? What was your hardest subject and why?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Youlosethegame on March 22, 2018, 02:46:45 pm
how much of a life did you sacrifice to get a good atar?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: sweetiepi on March 22, 2018, 02:49:42 pm
Which one will win and why: A duck or a cyclone?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 02:53:38 pm
What subjects did you do and what study score did you obtain? What was your hardest subject and why?

Hey. :) So I'll list my subjects here with a rough approximation for our NSW friends.

* English Language (no real equivalent - this is practically foundation linguistics, which to my knowledge isn't really offered in the HSC).
* Visual Communication & Design (I guess Visual Arts).
* Health & Human Development (vaguely similar to PDHPE).
* Psychology (not offered in the HSC).
* Further Maths (probably the equivalent of General Maths).
* Business Management (Business Studies).

Raw study scores (our scores are out of 50 - these would all be Band 6 equivalents):

* Health & Human Development: 50
* Psychology: 48
* Business Management: 48 (Year 11)
* Further Maths: 45
* English Language: 44
* Visual Communication & Design: 44

Hardest subject? I'm not really sure. This might surprise, but potentially Visual Communication & Design. People see it as a bludge subject, but it was the subject I invested the most time into by far. As you'll see above, I didn't do Methods/Spesh/Chem etc. - basically none of the "hard" (so to speak) subjects. EngLang was pretty tricky at times, but also enjoyable.

I think what this shows if nothing else is that you don't need to do subjects that scale up to score highly.

how much of a life did you sacrifice to get a good atar?

Hey, thanks for the question. :)

Honestly, didn't sacrifice that much. Invested a fair chunk of time obviously, but like, don't feel like I gave up heaps. I still chilled a lot, had a lot of days off, would have continued playing sport if not for injury at the time, worked casually.

Give up too much and I reckon it'd become counter-productive to the cause. It's all about balance in Year 12.

Which one will win and why: A duck or a cyclone?

Depends - what's the context?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: PolySquared on March 22, 2018, 02:57:33 pm
What was your goal ATAR during VCE and were you surprised with a 99.65? What SS were you aiming for in Business Management and do you have any tips on how to score well in this subject?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: sweetiepi on March 22, 2018, 03:00:40 pm
Depends - what's the context?
If the duck was in a cyclone (cruel, I know). Was asked this one recently and I thought it'd be interesting to reuse it! :P
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 03:09:14 pm
What was your goal ATAR during VCE and were you surprised with a 99.65? What SS were you aiming for in Business Management and do you have any tips on how to score well in this subject?

I didn't really have a goal ATAR, to be honest - I just wanted to score as highly as I could. At the start of Year 11 I probably would have been happy enough with 80.00+; as I gained confident throughout VCE, what I thought I could achieve became higher. Come results day I probably would have been disappointed with anything below high-ish 90s.

Was I surprised with a 99.65? Yeah, for sure. It's really hard to know what you're going to get, even come the morning of results day. In my year, the Herald Sun leaked all of the 40+ scores at like 2.00am on results day. All of my scores happened to be 40+, so I plugged them into ATAR Calc and was just like, "are you serious?!". ATAR Calc predicted 99.55 or something, so I was even happier with 99.65!

Re: BusMan:

At the start of the year, I was aiming for a raw 40. It was my first 3/4 subject (Year 11), so I honestly had no idea what to expect. I never thought I'd get 45+; getting a 48 really gave me a lot of confidence going into Year 12, because I knew I could do it.

In terms of tips:

* I had a few different notebooks. One was for in-class notes, which were usually pretty messy. One was for the summaries that I mentioned earlier. This summary book also acted as a really good source of SAC (and later exam) revision. And then I had a third notebook exclusively for doing practice questions, and marking those practice questions.
* If possible, I'd try to work with your teacher really closely on exam answer structure. I think this separates a lot of good exams from really good exams.
* Try to link the content as much as possible to your own life. If you work, awesome - a lot of the content will be relevant for you. If you don't work, imagine you did. Seriously, just imagine you worked at KFC or something, and try to link the content to those examples. I reckon that'd make things easier in terms of remembering all of the content.

From what I can see, you're in a similar position to what I was - BusMan as your first 3/4 subject, and in Year 11. How are you finding it?

If the duck was in a cyclone (cruel, I know). Was asked this one recently and I thought it'd be interesting to reuse it! :P

If the duck was in a cyclone? I'm backing the cyclone haha.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: accountingpro on March 22, 2018, 03:19:30 pm
I'm in year 11 doing busman 3/4. Any tips?

Also don't really know your personality or social interests  but did you still have a 'life' while grinding out VCE in year 12?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 03:26:01 pm
I'm in year 11 doing busman 3/4. Any tips?

Also don't really know your personality or social interests  but did you still have a 'life' while grinding out VCE in year 12?

Hey accountingpro! Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

I've just listed some general tips for Business Management here, but let me know if you want something more specific, or tips on various areas of study. If you have questions about BusMan content, I'd suggest asking them in this thread. There are lots of past and current BusMan students happy to help there - including the ATAR Notes Business lecturer. ;)

But yeah, let me know. Nice work on doing the 3/4 subject in Year 11. How are you finding it? What subjects are you thinking of taking next year?

In terms of "having a life", yeah, I definitely did. Honestly, not that much changed for me. As I mentioned in a previous response, I still had a lot of time off just chilling, I would have continued playing sport if not for injury, and I was working casually at the time. I don't go out or party much just by personality, so I didn't really have to cut back there, either.

Balance is a big thing in Year 12. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: accountingpro on March 22, 2018, 03:30:21 pm
Hey accountingpro! Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

I've just listed some general tips for Business Management here, but let me know if you want something more specific, or tips on various areas of study. If you have questions about BusMan content, I'd suggest asking them in this thread. There are lots of past and current BusMan students happy to help there - including the ATAR Notes Business lecturer. ;)

But yeah, let me know. Nice work on doing the 3/4 subject in Year 11. How are you finding it? What subjects are you thinking of taking next year?

In terms of "having a life", yeah, I definitely did. Honestly, not that much changed for me. As I mentioned in a previous response, I still had a lot of time off just chilling, I would have continued playing sport if not for injury, and I was working casually at the time. I don't go out or party much just by personality, so I didn't really have to cut back there, either.

Balance is a big thing in Year 12. :)

Thanks for the reply!

I really enjoy bus man so far. Got 93% on my first sac which could be better but I realised where I went wrong and am confident in not making the same mistake again.

Next year I'm doing: Spesh, methods, physics, english and possibly accounting (which I really don't enjoy, hence my name, but I had no other options, might do UMEP or something)

That's reassuring about the free time thing, wouldn't wanna miss out on the parties lol.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 22, 2018, 03:31:36 pm
1. Top 10 favourite songs at this very moment?

2. Are you still persisting with the whole use-a-teabag-more-than-once thing?

3. Would you rather a strange donut, or a stranger's donut?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 03:37:40 pm
Thanks for the reply!

I really enjoy bus man so far. Got 93% on my first sac which could be better but I realised where I went wrong and am confident in not making the same mistake again.

Next year I'm doing: Spesh, methods, physics, english and possibly accounting (which I really don't enjoy, hence my name, but I had no other options, might do UMEP or something)

That's reassuring about the free time thing, wouldn't wanna miss out on the parties lol.

No worries!

Congrats on your first SAC mark - that's awesome. :) Making those mistakes now is actually really valuable if it means you won't make the same ones in the exam at the end of the year.

Nice subject split. I honestly would have guessed that you enjoyed Accounting based on your name and the fact that you're doing BusMan at the moment haha. Well played.

The time thing - yeah, honestly, it'll be sweet. I don't know of many people who didn't go to parties they wanted to go to due to Year 12. Obviously it changes from person to person, but going to parties here and there shouldn't impact you too much if you're using your time well in other periods. :)

1. Top 10 favourite songs at this very moment?

2. Are you still persisting with the whole use-a-teabag-more-than-once thing?

3. Would you rather a strange donut, or a stranger's donut?

1. Eh. This is very tricky - honestly, this is just a random selection of general favourites, because it changes day to day:
* I Wish I Was - The Avett Brothers
* Miles From Nowhere - Yusuf / Cat Stevens
* Let Me Down Easy - Gang of Youths
* 1972 - Josh Rouse
* Pirate Looks at 40 - Jack Johnson
* I Wanna Get Better - Bleachers
* Europe - Allo Darlin'
* The Devil's Tears - Angus & Julia Stone
* Don't Swallow the Cap - The National
* Bruised - Orla Gartland

2. I sure am! I'm currently drinking tea - it's probably my fourth or fifth using this same teabag.

3. Hmm. I'll go with the strange donut, I think. I needn't eat it.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: MissSmiley on March 22, 2018, 04:14:40 pm
Hey Joseph41!
Congrats!!

Could I just ask you, did you get 100%s for all your SACs or like really really high 90s? - to get that 50 or 48?
How did you average in Unit 3 and 4 Eng Lang? (if you don't mind sharing :)

My school's SACs are super hard for some subjects especially, so it makes me worry sometimes.

Thank you so much for starting this thread! - it's a great one!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 04:27:47 pm
Hey Joseph41!
Congrats!!

Could I just ask you, did you get 100%s for all your SACs or like really really high 90s? - to get that 50 or 48?
How did you average in Unit 3 and 4 Eng Lang? (if you don't mind sharing :)

My school's SACs are super hard for some subjects especially, so it makes me worry sometimes.

Thank you so much for starting this thread! - it's a great one!

Cheers haha.

Definitely didn't get 100% on all of my SACs. People get 99+ ATARs having never got 100% on a SAC. The raw marks aren't really that meaningful; what matters more is your ranking in your cohort. It's honestly not worth investing much if any time into understanding the technical aspects of VCE (or HSC if you're from New South Wales), but if you are interested, here are some threads that might interest you:
* Victoria: {SAC RANKINGS} - All you need to know about it
* New South Wales: From assignment to ATAR: how your marks are calculated

I wish I kept a record of my SAC scores to better demonstrate this point, but I didn't. But yeah, certainly didn't get 100% for all SACs - and you don't need to.

EngLang specifically? Hmm. I reckon I would have averaged 80-90% across all SACs, but that's pushing my memory a little. Of course, this doesn't mean anything. Having a higher or lower SAC average than your friends really makes no difference unless they're in the same cohort as you. After all, the SACs I sit could be really easy whilst the SACs you sit could be really hard, or vice versa. That's why the system is the way that it is - to account for these differences.

In regard to your particular situation, I know it's difficult, but I'd honestly try not to worry about it too much. VCAA will make an adjustment if it deems your school's SACs to be difficult. If anything, it puts you in a great position, because you'll be well-equipped come the exam(s). :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 22, 2018, 05:04:01 pm
2. I sure am! I'm currently drinking tea - it's probably my fourth or fifth using this same teabag.
That is soooooooo wrong.

Follow up question: why do you think it's acceptable to do such things, and how did you stray so far from God?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2018, 05:05:06 pm
That is soooooooo wrong.

Follow up question: why do you think it's acceptable to do such things, and how did you stray so far from God?

I see nothing wrong with re-using teabags. I'm now onto probably my seventh or eighth.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: >em< on March 22, 2018, 05:16:58 pm
Hey!
just some questions about further maths...
1. Do you have any study tips that you found really helpful?
2. Did you do a theory book, and if so how did you do it and what sort of layout do you recommend?
3. If you don't mind sharing, what were your average SAC and exam marks (if you can remember :) )

Thank-you!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Vaike on March 22, 2018, 06:27:22 pm
1. Do you miss university (or certain aspects of it)?

2. Excited for the start of the AFL season? How do you think Melbourne's shaping up?

3. How long as it taken you to write out such detailed replies in this thread? :o
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 22, 2018, 07:08:02 pm
I see nothing wrong with re-using teabags. I'm now onto probably my seventh or eighth.
But like, the tea just isn't enjoyable that way. Teabags are designed for only one use. After that, they make sub-par tea. You might as well be drinking hot water. It's an insult to good cups of tea all over the world
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Poet on March 22, 2018, 08:31:56 pm
I see nothing wrong with re-using teabags. I'm now onto probably my seventh or eighth.

Dude... I can deal with maybe three re-uses, but eight is just wrong...
(was thinking of down-voting this quote but decided that I would show more humanity than you and your tea.)

What did you do to unwind in year 12 without wasting time? Is that even possible?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: DBA-144 on March 22, 2018, 10:38:53 pm
Hey Joseph41!

Really like the idea of this thread.

Had a few questions myself!

1. While reading the textbook, do you think it would be a good idea to make notes as I go, or should I simply just read the chapter and answer the questions as I go? Shoulx I do questions open or closed book? I reckon it would depend on how well i understand what is being presented,  right?

2. How might one go about balancing so many (5) subjects? ok maybe 5 isnt THAT much

3. How to study for eng lang? Just take notes of the different metalanguage and then go about finding examples? Then write some answers to practice questions, i suppose?

4. How does it feel to have graduated from uni- are you looking towards any career paths, apart from ATAR NOTES? Do you think your bachelor of arts was interesting enough for you to pursue uni or more further education? PLEASE ONLY ANSWER THIS ONE IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE

Thanks! Really like the idea of this thread. Sort of shows what this community seems to be a bit about- helping each other out!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 23, 2018, 09:43:12 am
Hey!
just some questions about further maths...
1. Do you have any study tips that you found really helpful?
2. Did you do a theory book, and if so how did you do it and what sort of layout do you recommend?
3. If you don't mind sharing, what were your average SAC and exam marks (if you can remember :) )

Thank-you!

Hey there! Love the username haha. ;) I'll try to answer your questions one by one.

1. Do you have any study tips that you found really helpful?
Hmm, honestly I didn't really enjoy Further all that much during the year, so I wasn't hugely motivated to study for it. I think having a neat/legible/practical summary book is really important - obviously for the end-of-year exam, but also for your own sake during the year (for me, the process of making my bound reference was a lot more useful than the bound reference itself, which I didn't consult at all during the exams). For this reason, I'm an advocate for having at least a couple of notebooks - one for work in class and practice questions etc., and the other as your bound reference. How you actually do this is up to you, but that's what worked for me.

For Further specifically, a solid understanding of why things are the way they are is good, too. It's relatively easy to get through the year, see questions that look familiar, and do them based on what you knew worked for similar questions in the past. But if you can look at each question in isolation and work out how to approach it from there, I think that's a much better option. Further throws in a bunch of trick questions (well, not really - but questions worded in strange ways and the like) to try to differentiate the good exams from the great ones. It can be easy to be tricked, and fall into your default way of answering things when a different approach would actually be more suitable.

In terms of motivation, I think a bit-by-bit approach is good. I found Further pretty dry to be honest, and couldn't sit down for more than an hour or so without losing focus (until the end of the year, at least, at which point I just did heaps of practice exams back-to-back haha). Ten minutes here, fifteen minutes there - it all adds up.

2. Did you do a theory book, and if so how did you do it and what sort of layout do you recommend?
Yep - see response above. I had a specific theory book, which I added to throughout the year. This was separate to the notebook(s) I used during class for textbook exercises, practice questions and so on.

I ordered my book chronologically - so, roughly dot point by dot point of the study design. I highlighted formulae with a yellow highlighter, I had practice questions in red, and key points to remember in green. These details are pretty irrelevant - what's more relevant is having a system that you stick to. So for me, I could flick through my book if I needed to, and all of the formulae would be immediately apparent (because they were highlighted in yellow). Throughout the year, I added practice questions I found particularly difficult, or those I got wrong in SACs, and explained how to do them step by step. The rationale here was that if something similar came up on the exam, I'd have an example to go off.

I also used an A5 book, but I think most people use A4 (not sure on this). Regardless, I'd recommend making your own summary book instead of taking in a textbook or similar as your bound reference.

The key is to make it as easy as possible. You really don't want to be wasting time flicking through your bound reference in the exam(s). If you need to find something specific, you'll want a system to get there as quickly as possible. I know some people used tabs and stuff (be careful to adhere to VCAA guidelines, here) - I just had very clear headings and divisions.

3. If you don't mind sharing, what were your average SAC and exam marks (if you can remember :) )
No worries! I definitely don't remember specifically, but if I had to guess, probably ~85-90% for SAC marks? I'm not really sure. They were decent, but not absolutely amazing, and I definitely wasn't ranked in the top few of the cohort by any means. I never ordered a statement of marks for my exams, but I'm confident I didn't drop any marks in Exam 1, and only dropped one in Exam 2.

As I mentioned earlier, though, SAC marks are really difficult to compare, so if you received exactly the same SAC marks and exam scores as me, that wouldn't guarantee you'd get the same study score - perhaps not even close. It's really not worth worrying too much about the technical side of VCE, but if you are interested, there's a good thread on it here where you can learn more. :)

1. Do you miss university (or certain aspects of it)?

2. Excited for the start of the AFL season? How do you think Melbourne's shaping up?

3. How long as it taken you to write out such detailed replies in this thread? :o

Hey Vaike!

1. Do you miss university (or certain aspects of it)?
Yeah, I certainly miss certain aspects of university. Not all of it. Good question - see below.

Things I miss about uni:
* Honours - having a small cohort and all working concurrently toward a similar goal.
* Honours - relationships with supervisors and teaching staff.
* Content - I'm feeling almost dirty that I'm not actively learning new stuff about linguistics. I'm trying to find free lectures and stuff haha. I definitely miss that.
* To a degree, the satisfaction of completing assignments to a high level, and writing papers I was genuinely proud of.
* I probably had more time to do other stuff than I do now.
* Crazy long holidays - at least sometimes. Time to travel etc.

Things I don't miss about uni:
* The fact that no matter how much work you do, you could always theoretically study more.
* Being assessed. I like now how I can work on stuff, give it my absolute all, and be proud of the result - without having a number assigned to it.
* Frustration pertaining to vague assessment criteria.
* Group work. Or more precisely, the effort required to actively avoid group work.
* Some units, readings, assignments and the like just didn't tickle my whiskers as much as others.
* The feeling in the back of my mind that I didn't really know what it was all leading to.

Regardless, I'd like to go back to uni at some point to pursue a PhD. I'm not sure when, or where, or even why, but I'd love to further explore the intersection of linguistics, gender and the media.

2. Excited for the start of the AFL season? How do you think Melbourne's shaping up?
Absolutely. My peak enthusiasm for the footy was probably 6-7 years ago, but I'm still a big fan. I used to go to every Melbourne game in Melbourne (didn't miss one for many years); now, I'll realistically have to miss a couple due to work and other commitments. But yes, I'm glad it's back - also very much enjoyed the AFLW season (until Melbourne were eliminated in typical Melbourne fashion).

Last year was pretty upsetting. In the 8 with a round to come, playing against Collingwood at the 'G to cement our first finals position since 2006. And we lost, and then Adelaide lost to West Coast, and we missed the finals by the smallest margin in the history of the V/AFL. It was just so Melbourne. To put this in perspective, the last time we played finals, I was 12, and still in primary school. I've since graduated from primary school, been through all of high school, spent four years at university, and am now in my second year working full-time. It's been a long stretch!

A rough approximation of our best 22 the way I see it, ignoring injury (which has already hit us pretty hard):

B: N Jetta | O McDonald | M Hibberd
HB: N Jones | J Lever | J Lewis
C: J Hunt | J Harmes | A Neal-Bullen
HF: C Petracca | J Hogan | J Melksham
F: J Garlett | T McDonald | B Fritsch
R: M Gawn | J Viney | C Oliver
I/C: D Tyson | C Salem | M Hannan | S Frost

E: A Brayshaw | B Vince | C Pedersen | T Bugg

I think that's pretty good, and we have way more depth than we have in previous years (Stretch, Maynard, Weideman, Balic, Wagner etc. further to the emergencies above), so I'm cautiously optimistic. But it is Melbourne, so who knows?

3. How long as it taken you to write out such detailed replies in this thread? :o

It's been time well spent. ;)

But like, the tea just isn't enjoyable that way. Teabags are designed for only one use. After that, they make sub-par tea. You might as well be drinking hot water. It's an insult to good cups of tea all over the world

I wouldn't say so; I think this is simply personal preference. I enjoy the first brew most, don't get me wrong. But when I'm working, I just need some sort of hot beverage - and weak tea is fine by me.

What did you do to unwind in year 12 without wasting time? Is that even possible?

For sure!

I drew quite a lot in Year 12 - I liked designing stuff. This sort of tied in with one of my subjects, but I also did it for recreation. Otherwise, a lot of sport - mostly watching in Year 12 due to aforementioned injuries. I love a good walk. Also, writing poetry was very good for me. Chilling with friends, reading, travelling - it's all part of the fun. :)

But yeah, unwinding throughout Year 12 certainly is possible - and, indeed, important!

Hey Joseph41!

Really like the idea of this thread.

Had a few questions myself!

1. While reading the textbook, do you think it would be a good idea to make notes as I go, or should I simply just read the chapter and answer the questions as I go? Shoulx I do questions open or closed book? I reckon it would depend on how well i understand what is being presented,  right?

2. How might one go about balancing so many (5) subjects? ok maybe 5 isnt THAT much

3. How to study for eng lang? Just take notes of the different metalanguage and then go about finding examples? Then write some answers to practice questions, i suppose?

4. How does it feel to have graduated from uni- are you looking towards any career paths, apart from ATAR NOTES? Do you think your bachelor of arts was interesting enough for you to pursue uni or more further education?

Thanks! Really like the idea of this thread. Sort of shows what this community seems to be a bit about- helping each other out!

Hey DBA-144! :) Glad you're enjoying the thread.

1. While reading the textbook, do you think it would be a good idea to make notes as I go, or should I simply just read the chapter and answer the questions as I go? Shoulx I do questions open or closed book? I reckon it would depend on how well i understand what is being presented,  right?

Is it a good idea? Depends on whether or not you find it a good idea, IMO. That might work for some people; it might not for others. I don't say that as a cop-out sort of answer - I genuinely believe that study techniques are pretty personal things, and you can't just pick up a technique because it's worked for somebody else.

In saying that (depending on the content a little), I'd usually:
* Read it once without taking notes or anything.
* Go back and read it a second time, noting key points and making annotations (in my summary notebook).
* Answer any relevant questions for that content to solidify understanding.

Should you do questions open or closed book? That's a tough question to answer. It's like asking if you should do every practice exam under the sun, or none at all - I don't really agree with either option haha. Why not start open book, and then push yourself to answer questions closed book when you're feeling more comfortable? Sometimes, I'd spend ages on perfecting a response to a question (open book), and then a few days later, try to answer that same question closed book. What I found was that the process of constructing a good response was sort of cemented in my mind, and I could remember what I wrote the first time. That gave me confidence. Then, I'd try answering similar questions, and noticed that I already knew what I had to do to construct a good response.

It's up to you - I honestly don't think there's a right answer for this one.

2. How might one go about balancing so many (5) subjects? ok maybe 5 isnt THAT much
Sometimes with some difficulty! But like, if you think about it, you've done it many times before. Through Year 7/8/9/10 etc., you probably had several more subjects than you do now, or than what is typically the case in Year 12. Yeah, the stakes are a little higher this year, but you're also more developed. It's a natural progression, and confidence in yourself can play a big part.

In saying that, time management and being able to prioritise tasks are big things. It's important not to prioritise subjects just because you like them more than others, because if you do that, that's the only subject you'll ever study for. Sometimes, you have to just sit down and smash out a bit of revision for a subject you don't enjoy as much. The benefit here is that when you go back to what you are more passionate about, it won't even feel like studying!

For me, to-do lists were really, really useful. I spoke a bit about how I used to-do lists in this post here. :)

3. How to study for eng lang? Just take notes of the different metalanguage and then go about finding examples? Then write some answers to practice questions, i suppose?
EngLang. Great subject!

For metalanguage, I think taking notes is a good start, but I'd also recommend having one go-to example for each. That is, an example of a simple sentence, a compound sentence, a complex sentence, a compound-complex sentence etc.; an example of personification; an example of a bound morpheme. To me, having these examples improves understanding, because you're not just rattling off definitions from a textbook or lecture slides. Go through texts - literally any text you can find - and try to note each example of metalanguage you can see. If you have a solid understanding of the course, your page should be absolutely full of notes and annotations. Do this for all different types of texts: formal and informal, written and spoken, and so on.

Examples - yeah, these are important, particularly for the essay, as you know. Same as quotes. We have a nice thread here where people are collecting heaps of really useful language examples and quotes throughout the year. It's run by our English Language lecturer, who's doing a top-notch job. That might be a good place to start. But otherwise, trawl through the interwebz (search for key English Language terms in Google News), and you'll probably find a heap of good stuff.

Of course, finding those examples is one thing - remembering them, and them using them appropriately, is another.

What I often recommend for English Language revision is simply to be curious. There aren't that many formal EngLang resources around, but by nature of the subject, you have the entire language at your disposal. What that means is that every day, you could do a bit of English Language revision, and it's actually really easy. All you need to do is to look at any piece of writing, or listen to any example of spoken language, and think about it. Think about why that particular language has been used over alternatives (there are always alternatives), and try to link it back to the function of the text, the social purpose, the audience, the register and so on. This will be really helpful for your analytical commentaries in particular. Listen to the news and think about it; listen to your friends' conversation and think about it; read an article in a newspaper and think about it.

There's really no limit to how much you could do this in theory. Don't get me wrong: there's no need to analyse language every single time you come across it haha. That would be incredibly tiring, and probably frustrating. But now and then, just be actively curious about language.

4. How does it feel to have graduated from uni- are you looking towards any career paths, apart from ATAR NOTES? Do you think your bachelor of arts was interesting enough for you to pursue uni or more further education?
I think it feels pretty good! I'm proud of what I achieved at uni, and I think I developed as a person quite a lot over my four years there.

Career paths - not sure! My plan was to pursue a PhD straight after Honours, but I didn't end up doing that. Academia was my vague goal for much of uni, and I'm still somewhat interested in that path down the track, but I'm absolutely loving what I'm doing right now and have no intentions of changing that haha. I'm in a very fortunate position.

Teaching was also an option but I think I'm off that idea now. Education management might be more up my alley.

Was Arts interesting enough to pursue uni or further education? 100% - you can read more about my thoughts on Arts here. ;)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: PhoenixxFire on March 23, 2018, 10:41:49 am
If you could be any animal what would you be and why?

How cute are baby turtles?!

sorry my brain’s a bit fried from camp, I’ll have better questions later.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 23, 2018, 10:56:44 am
If you could be any animal what would you be and why?

How cute are baby turtles?!

sorry my brain’s a bit fried from camp, I’ll have better questions later.

Can I be a human? If not, probably a cat. Cats are my favourite animals, and I think I have a cat-appropriate personality.

Baby turtles are extremely cute. I saw a bunch of baby turtles when I was on exchange in Malaysia, and I can definitely confirm their cuteness haha.

Hope camp was great - looking forward to your future questions!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Glasses on March 23, 2018, 12:10:24 pm
Are you single?
And if so, will you marry me?

Spoiler
And if not, would you consider leaving your partner..?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 23, 2018, 12:19:36 pm
Are you single?
And if so, will you marry me?

Spoiler
And if not, would you consider leaving your partner..?

Hey friend!

I am very happily in a relationship, won't be leaving my partner and, therefore, will have to politely turn down your very kind offer haha.

<3
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Glasses on March 23, 2018, 01:06:58 pm
Hey friend!

I am very happily in a relationship, won't be leaving my partner and, therefore, will have to politely turn down your very kind offer haha.

<3

Aww that's the cutest rejection I've ever heard
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: >em< on March 23, 2018, 04:36:55 pm
Hey!
Thanks!  ;D Really didn't know much apart from that it was a great website when i joined so didn't realise it would be my actual name! :P ;D
But thanks for your help!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 23, 2018, 04:39:03 pm
Hey!
Thanks!  ;D Really didn't know much apart from that it was a great website when i joined so didn't realise it would be my actual name! :P ;D
But thanks for your help!

No worries at all! If you want it changed for anonymity reasons, send me a message directly (you'll have a "My Messages") section near the top of the screen, and I can change it for you. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: ssillyssnakes on March 23, 2018, 04:41:50 pm
Hey, this Q&A thing is really cool - it's like a nerd's version of a Reddit AMA haha

Did you go to a "good" (academically oriented) school or get tutoring or anything like that? And do you think that having those kinds of resources is as relevant to your ATAR as many say it is?

How much of a role does sucking up to your teachers and writing what the examiners want to hear have on the total result? Do you think that in any of the subjects you did that there was a bias towards certain ideas and ways of answer questions?

Have you watched the show "My Year 12 Life"? If so, what did you think of it?

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: zofromuxo on March 23, 2018, 09:14:14 pm
Questions... so many questions..... hmmmm.
Well here goes nothing a series of questions that are varying, interesting and thought-provoking for you :).

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: DBA-144 on March 23, 2018, 10:55:12 pm
Questions... so many questions..... hmmmm.
Well here goes nothing a series of questions that are varying, interesting and thought-provoking for you :).
  • What is the book (or books) you've given most as a gift, and why? Or what are one to three books that you have greatly influenced your life?
  • How has a failure, or apparent failure, set you up for later success? Do you have a "favorite failure" of yours?
  • What is the one of the best or most worthwhile investments you've ever made? (Could be an investment of money, time, energy, etc.)
  • What advice would you give to a smart, driven highschool and/or university student about to enter the "real world"? What advice should they ignore?
  • When you feel overwhelmed or unfocused, or have lost your focus temporarily, what do you do? (If helpful: What questions do you ask yourself?)


Excellent questions here! Would really like be interested in the response!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 25, 2018, 10:13:12 am
Hi all! Sorry for the slight delay - currently in Bendigo, will be back home tomorrow.

Until then, keep the questions coming! :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: nice! on March 25, 2018, 10:25:39 pm
Hey Joseph41 !

Any tips for what to do on mid-sem break for uni??
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Yoanarizkalla on March 25, 2018, 10:48:58 pm
Hey I am in year 11 and I am stuck on my biology assignment.

Do you know what a hydrophilic channel is and what the function of a alpha helix structure.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 25, 2018, 11:07:53 pm
Hey I am in year 11 and I am stuck on my biology assignment.

Do you know what a hydrophilic channel is and what the function of a alpha helix structure.

Hey there! Welcome to ATAR Notes :)
I think your question would probably be better suited to the VCE Biology Question Thread - Joseph41 didn't actually study Biology at high school! Reply to that thread with your question, and someone should be able to help you out soon :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 26, 2018, 10:30:25 am
Hey, this Q&A thing is really cool - it's like a nerd's version of a Reddit AMA haha

Did you go to a "good" (academically oriented) school or get tutoring or anything like that? And do you think that having those kinds of resources is as relevant to your ATAR as many say it is?

How much of a role does sucking up to your teachers and writing what the examiners want to hear have on the total result? Do you think that in any of the subjects you did that there was a bias towards certain ideas and ways of answer questions?

Have you watched the show "My Year 12 Life"? If so, what did you think of it?



Hey! Glad you're enjoying it - thanks for your questions. :)

Did you go to a "good" (academically oriented) school or get tutoring or anything like that?
Depends what you classify as "good". Traditionally it gets a median study score of like 31, which I guess it technically very slightly above average? It's nothing special, but not the worst - very similar I'd imagine to many other public schools. My graduation year was one of the best in the school's history, and we just snuck into the top 100 according to Better Education. So in summary, yeah, I consider it a good school, but it's far from being a good school, if you know what I mean (not trying to be obtuse - just difficult to portray that it's a fine school without being incredible via text haha).

I didn't get any tutoring in Year 12, no. I had a Methods 1/2 tutor briefly in Year 11 but that was my only experience receiving tutoring throughout high school. Is it necessary to do well? No, definitely not. Can it really help a lot of people? Yeah, absolutely. I think tutoring, like a lot of other things, is a very personal thing - and it would be irresponsible of me to say that it's absolutely necessary or absolutely pointless, because it means different things to different people. Despite not getting tutoring at all throughout Year 12 and doing fine without it, I see the benefits of it almost every day.

And do you think that having those kinds of resources is as relevant to your ATAR as many say it is?
Depends who you're listening to and what they're saying. But for context, I think it's more than possible to do extremely well without going to a school that gets amazing results and without paying hundreds of dollars per hour for additional resources. There are many instances of this, including on these forums. I think it's hard to deny that going to certain schools has a strong correlation with higher ATARs, but what does this mean, really? I honestly don't know if my ATAR would have been slightly higher or considerably lower had I gone to a "better" school.

In ~Year 9/10, I flirted with the idea of going for selective schools and stuff, but ultimately decided against it, and honestly I think that was a great decision. Come Year 12, I loved being at my school, being involved with leadership and all that jazz. Honestly, I think high school is about way more than marks, and you have to make an educated decision about what's best for you.

How much of a role does sucking up to your teachers and writing what the examiners want to hear have on the total result?
I don't think you need to "suck up" to your teachers; I think you just need to demonstrate diligence and a willingness to improve, and be respectful. Basically, just don't make their job unnecessarily difficult, because it's difficult enough as is. They just want to help you, and being respectful of that is really all it takes. No need to compliment them all the time and take apples to class lol. They're the ones marking your assessments, so if nothing else, it just wouldn't make sense to be ratty toward them.

Writing what the examiners want to hear - yeah, I think this would play a big part. Basically your question is, "how big an impact does writing the correct answers have on the exam?" And when put like that, the answer is obviously, "quite a lot". If VCAA/NESA specify definitions, you've got to use those definitions. If there are buzz words that'll get you marks, use those buzz words. To me, this is all part of "playing the game". Sometimes it sucks, and sometimes I felt like I was just regurgitating information a bit, but it's all part of it and just something that has to be done.

Do you think that in any of the subjects you did that there was a bias towards certain ideas and ways of answer questions?
Yeah, I'd say so - but I learnt which ways were preferred, and then used those ways. Seemed to work okay! Haha. I think there are a couple of parts to doing well in Year 12 subjects:
* Learning the content
* Answering questions in a suitable manner

It's all well and good to know the syllabus like the back of your hand, but if you don't use that knowledge/content in an appropriate (according to VCAA/NESA) way, the whole thing is pretty fruitless. That's why it's so important to inspect examination reports, work closely with your teachers etc. to perfect your answer structure.

Have you watched the show "My Year 12 Life"? If so, what did you think of it?
I have absolutely no idea how this is the case, but no, I honestly haven't seen a single minute of it. Blows my mind to this day haha - it's high on my to-do list but I just haven't got around to it. I don't even know why I didn't watch it when it was on initially; the times must have been inconvenient for me.

Have you watched it? If so, what did you think of it?

Questions... so many questions..... hmmmm.
Well here goes nothing a series of questions that are varying, interesting and thought-provoking for you :).

  • What is the book (or books) you've given most as a gift, and why? Or what are one to three books that you have greatly influenced your life?
  • How has a failure, or apparent failure, set you up for later success? Do you have a "favorite failure" of yours?
  • What is the one of the best or most worthwhile investments you've ever made? (Could be an investment of money, time, energy, etc.)
  • What advice would you give to a smart, driven highschool and/or university student about to enter the "real world"? What advice should they ignore?
  • When you feel overwhelmed or unfocused, or have lost your focus temporarily, what do you do? (If helpful: What questions do you ask yourself?)

G'day zofro! Thanks for your questions.

What is the book (or books) you've given most as a gift, and why? Or what are one to three books that you have greatly influenced your life?
I seldom give books as a gift, and even if I did, they probably wouldn't strongly reflect my personal preferences. I'll speak briefly about the book I most recently finished, plus my favourite book.

* I just finished After Bali by Jason McCartney. McCartney was a professional footballer who survived the Bali bombings. He suffered burns to 50% of his body, was in a seriously critical condition for a period, and then somehow made it back to play again at the highest level. This book has been sitting on my bookshelves for like five years but I hadn't picked it up until recently. Couldn't put it down. I was only eight at the time of the Bali bombings, so my understanding of it was pretty limited, and this book gave a pretty comprehensive run-down of them. Definitely gave me perspective and in an unexpected way, has helped me personally over the last little while.

* Throw a blanket over a bunch of George Orwell texts, but my favourite is Keep the Aspidistra Flying. On first reading, it really hit home that societal structure isn't inherent, and the way we are is largely a result of conditioning - not nature. I enjoyed the Comstock's war on money dependence, and also could identify with parts of his personality, which is perhaps why I like it so much. If I were to gift a book based on my own preferences, it would probably be this one. It's one of Orwell's lesser-known novels, but I really enjoyed it, and have read it on multiple occasions.

How has a failure, or apparent failure, set you up for later success? Do you have a "favorite failure" of yours?
Difficult question to answer, just because I'm not really sure what constitutes a failure.

I mean, I've had some pretty difficult periods personally, and I certainly think I'm stronger as a person now as a result. Being in difficult situations has helped me to be more objective, and to be able to detach myself from situations I'd previously have been drawn into.

I was in a relationship for just under two years before ending it through Year 12, and I struggled with that "failure" for quite some time. Now, I'm very happily with the love of my life, and we're approaching 4.5 years together. I definitely learnt a lot about that first relationship in terms of communication and honesty, I think (in the not bottling up emotions sense).

I was always pretty good at school tbh, but "failed" in my own eyes in some respects. My school had this thing where the top like 20 students or something from each cohort were awarded with a prize at the end of the year, and I was never selected in that group. This was pretty weird for me coming out of primary school, where I'd always been one of the top few in the class. I think this made me work harder and figure out how I studied best, which put me in good stead for VCE. I ended up being the Year 12 dux, and also achieving the highest ATAR my school had ever had at that time (since usurped).

I don't think I have a favourite failure, to answer your question directly. There are very many things I've learnt from in my life, and I'm sure there'll be many more in the future. I make mistakes regularly - numerous times daily - but I think everybody does, and that's just part of life. Perhaps what I'm working on most actively at the moment is relevant here: not taking mistakes to heart too much, and taking a step back from them to see that mistakes are not the end of the world.

What is the one of the best or most worthwhile investments you've ever made? (Could be an investment of money, time, energy, etc.)
Relationships of all sorts comes immediately to mind. I don't think you can make a better investment of time than in relationships.

Thinking pragmatically, working hard through high school has paid off for me, I'd say. I've tutored, worked several jobs and received scholarships as a result.

What advice would you give to a smart, driven highschool and/or university student about to enter the "real world"? What advice should they ignore?
I don't think you should ignore any advice. That's not to say you should act on everything you hear, but thinking about advice is a good process IMO. Taking something in and deciding against it isn't the same as ignoring it IMO.

For high school students:
* If you're planning to study at uni, think carefully about what you actually enjoy, and what you want to pursue in your life.
* Try to get involved where you can, and don't just cruise through uni like I did in a sense. Some of the most important traits for the workforce are things you'll pick up in non-academic parts of university life.
* If you're at uni, I'd really recommend working part-time. Seriously.
* Don't be afraid to reach out for help if you're having a tough time making the transition to uni/work. This can be really difficult, and it can honestly creep up on you heaps. It's important to take care of yourself first and foremost.

For uni students, largely the same, but:
* Experience is experience, and your first job certainly doesn't need to be your last one.
* Organise your finances. The sooner the better.
* Don't be afraid to reach out for help if you're having a tough time making the transition to work. This can be really difficult, and it can honestly creep up on you heaps. It's important to take care of yourself first and foremost.

I'll also note here that I'm only in my second year of full-time work myself, so take all of this with a grain of salt haha.

When you feel overwhelmed or unfocused, or have lost your focus temporarily, what do you do? (If helpful: What questions do you ask yourself?)
* Go for a walk
* Drink water
* Mindfulness
* Take a break and just do whatever
* Draw
* Write
* Sport
* Read

Depends on the situation a bit, but those things about are good circuit-breakers for me. I think the key is to just take your mind off things and try to focus on something else for a short period.

Hey Joseph41 !

Any tips for what to do on mid-sem break for uni??

Hey nice!

Laws/Biomed would obviously be pretty hectic, so I think the number one thing I'd recommend is, if possible, take a genuine break for a few days. Work permitting, give yourself permission to get away for a bit. You still have a bit of the semester to go, and then SWOTVAC, and then exams, and trust me: you don't want to start breaking down come the end of the semester (physically or otherwise). So yeah, I think it's probably in your best interests to genuinely recuperate if you can. But what's your workload like at the moment in terms of assignments and readings and revision and everything else? How are you finding first year so far?

In terms of revision, I usually found mid-sem a good time to either catch up or get ahead a bit, depending on the situation. I'd forecast a few weeks ahead and see what was on the horizon. For example, if I had three essays due within the same week in like a month, I'd get started on one or two of those - even if it was just dot-pointing potential topics or resources to use. Doing this gave me a bit of breathing space later on, and this was helpful.

In saying that, I spent my entire mid-sem in my final undergraduate semester in Japan, so I definitely didn't study all the time or anything like that haha.

Hey I am in year 11 and I am stuck on my biology assignment.

Do you know what a hydrophilic channel is and what the function of a alpha helix structure.


Hey, welcome to ATAR Notes. :) I'll just agree with what K888 has said above. I didn't study Bio myself (a regret!), so I've never even heard of a hydrophilic channel haha. But I really recommend asking in the HSC Biology Question Thread if in New South Wales or the VCE Biology Question Thread if in Victoria, because somebody there will definitely be able to help you. :)

Looking forward to seeing you around the forums!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: EEEEEEP on March 26, 2018, 10:48:13 am
1. What is your motto in life?
2. Do you think the whole leadership team (warner, lehmann, smith) should step down? (obligatory cricket q)
3. What is your greatest achievement?
4. If you could have a million dollars (with the condition that you had to stay on a desert island for 2 years, would you do it)?
5. Do you class the actions of smith and bancroft in the same level as Maria Sharapova and Lance Armstrong's actions?
That is all :P
 
(sorry additional q, forgot it before)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 26, 2018, 03:05:44 pm
1. What is your motto in life?
2. Do you think the whole leadership team (warner, lehmann, smith) should step down? (obligatory cricket q)
3. What is your greatest achievement?
4. If you could have a million dollars (with the condition that you had to stay on a desert island for 2 years, would you do it)?
5. Do you class the actions of smith and bancroft in the same level as Maria Sharapova and Lance Armstrong's actions?
That is all :P
 
(sorry additional q, forgot it before)

1. What is your motto in life?
I don't think I have a motto as such. Here's one I've stolen off David Mitchell, though ;):

"One of the codes I live my life by is that my appearance should be in no way noteworthy, but then again, not so un-noteworthy as to be, in itself, noteworthy."

In all seriousness, I think like, patience is something I value very strongly, plus loyalty and empathy. I'd say they're probably three of the things I try to centre my life upon (whether successful or not is another question), but I'm not sure I have a neat little motto to share. I really like these lyrics from The Avett Brothers, though, and this is what I'll share instead (relevant, I think):

"If I live the life I'm given, I won't be scared to die."


2. Do you think the whole leadership team (warner, lehmann, smith) should step down? (obligatory cricket q)
I think anybody who was involved should be suspended for at least a year, so yeah, I guess so. And if they don't step down, they should be pushed. Smith should never captain Australia again. I think Bancroft is somewhat of a victim in all of this, and the current punishment given to him is appropriate (plus probably an internal suspension for a game or two).

The whole thing has honestly diluted my passion for Australian cricket (probably temporarily, but still). I've seen a lot of people point to precedent in Faf, Afridi, Ashes 2005 etc. but like, I don't really care what other teams have done - all I care about is that the integrity of Australian cricket has been damaged, perhaps permanently. I'd happily sacrifice on-field performance to have a team willing to play by the rules. And not just willing, but actively endeavouring to do so.

3. What is your greatest achievement?
Toughy. At risk of being repetitive, I'd like to say the friends I've made along the way, in addition of course to being with my lovely girlfriend. My second thought is winning our U16 cricket premiership haha, which was also my very last game of junior cricket. It's one of my absolute favourite memories in my life, and something I'll always cherish.

Academic stuff, whilst nice, isn't that meaningful to me. Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely proud of what I've accomplished and have worked hard to get to this point, but I like to think my life is broader than just academics haha.

I'm also really happy with what we've achieved at ATAR Notes. These forums are incredible - seriously - and I don't think they've even been in a stronger position than they are right now. We have so, so many users who make amazing contributions, and who I really hope will continue to do so for years to come. I'm in a fortunate position where, with the other admins and broader moderator team, I can sort of guide the direction of the community, and that's a big privilege. Seeing users develop over time from lurker to posters to regulars to moderators is a huge thing, too - and one of my favourite parts of being involved with ATAR Notes. For example, being able to NatMod somebody like K888, who has made endless contributions to this community - that's a really great feeling.

4. If you could have a million dollars (with the condition that you had to stay on a desert island for 2 years, would you do it)?
I need more information here. What are the stipulations of the island? Am I alone? Am I comfortable? Can I work?

5. Do you class the actions of smith and bancroft in the same level as Maria Sharapova and Lance Armstrong's actions?
I think performing-enhancing drugs and ball-tampering are separate issues, but I guess both fall under the broader umbrella of cheating. I don't know that much about the Sharapova or Armstrong cases, but I'd say they're similar to a degree despite some pretty fundamental differences.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: EEEEEEP on March 26, 2018, 03:18:02 pm
4. If you could have a million dollars (with the condition that you had to stay on a desert island for 2 years, would you do it)?
I need more information here. What are the stipulations of the island? Am I alone? Am I comfortable? Can I work?

5. Do you class the actions of smith and bancroft in the same level as Maria Sharapova and Lance Armstrong's actions?
I think performing-enhancing drugs and ball-tampering are separate issues, but I guess both fall under the broader umbrella of cheating. I don't know that much about the Sharapova or Armstrong cases, but I'd say they're similar to a degree despite some pretty fundamental differences.
;D, love the answers

Do people work on deserted islands? HAHA (No, you can't work on that island)
...
As for Sharapova and Arnstrong.... Sharapova  failed a drug test at the 2016 Australian Open (was banned for 2 years and a bit from competing) and Armstrong was found to be doping (and had his titles stripped off him).
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 26, 2018, 03:20:36 pm
;D

Do people work on deserted islands? HAHA
...
As for Sharapova and Arnstrong.... Sharapova  failed a drug test at the 2016 Australian Open (was banned for 2 years and a bit from competing) and Armstrong was found to be doping (and had his titles stripped off him).


Yeah, I'm broadly aware of those situations, but don't know the specifics much more than that. Doping is fundamentally different to ball-tampering, but as I mentioned, I guess they're two different branches of the same umbrella of cheating. Has Sharapova said she did it intentionally? I don't think so - wasn't what she took legal up until a little while before she failed the test? In that sense I guess the cases are quite different.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: chiecemi on March 26, 2018, 06:15:26 pm
What do I do if I have a bad teacher for biology?
Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR - ask me anything.
Post by: madisonkilleen on March 26, 2018, 06:27:17 pm
How many hours did you study every day?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: sdfg on March 26, 2018, 06:38:55 pm
Bit broad, but how did you study during uni?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: nice! on March 26, 2018, 07:31:50 pm
But what's your workload like at the moment in terms of assignments and readings and revision and everything else? How are you finding first year so far?

At the moment it's very full on hahahah. I have 3 assignments due within the next month and a bit  :// I know once I start them though it will be easier to get done, so I'm kinda looking forward to the mid-sem break just so I can stop stressing about finding time to actually make a start. There's also so much content so revising by summarising notes from lecture slides is very time-consuming, but does feel very satisfactory when I finish and can tick it off my to-do-list.

First year in general is pretty fun so far (only week 5 though lol) !! Just the social side is super busy !!! I've met so many new people and there have already been so many social events, but it's a nice break from seeing the same people everyday in highschool. The workload isn't unbearable but it does keep you busy (especially the readings for law ahhh).
But overall, I'm managing ! Just need to get on top of the assignments >:(
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: studyign123 on March 26, 2018, 08:09:04 pm
Hey I was wondering if you ever did poorly in a school assessment in Year 12? Like is it possible to have stuffed up one school exam and still achieve a +99 ATAR? Thanks
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: zofromuxo on March 26, 2018, 09:06:19 pm
G'day zofro! Thanks for your questions.

What is the book (or books) you've given most as a gift, and why? Or what are one to three books that you have greatly influenced your life?
I seldom give books as a gift, and even if I did, they probably wouldn't strongly reflect my personal preferences. I'll speak briefly about the book I most recently finished, plus my favourite book.

* I just finished After Bali by Jason McCartney. McCartney was a professional footballer who survived the Bali bombings. He suffered burns to 50% of his body, was in a seriously critical condition for a period, and then somehow made it back to play again at the highest level. This book has been sitting on my bookshelves for like five years but I hadn't picked it up until recently. Couldn't put it down. I was only eight at the time of the Bali bombings, so my understanding of it was pretty limited, and this book gave a pretty comprehensive run-down of them. Definitely gave me perspective and in an unexpected way, has helped me personally over the last little while.

* Throw a blanket over a bunch of George Orwell texts, but my favourite is Keep the Aspidistra Flying. On first reading, it really hit home that societal structure isn't inherent, and the way we are is largely a result of conditioning - not nature. I enjoyed the Comstock's war on money dependence, and also could identify with parts of his personality, which is perhaps why I like it so much. If I were to gift a book based on my own preferences, it would probably be this one. It's one of Orwell's lesser-known novels, but I really enjoyed it, and have read it on multiple occasions.

How has a failure, or apparent failure, set you up for later success? Do you have a "favorite failure" of yours?
Difficult question to answer, just because I'm not really sure what constitutes a failure.

I mean, I've had some pretty difficult periods personally, and I certainly think I'm stronger as a person now as a result. Being in difficult situations has helped me to be more objective, and to be able to detach myself from situations I'd previously have been drawn into.

I was in a relationship for just under two years before ending it through Year 12, and I struggled with that "failure" for quite some time. Now, I'm very happily with the love of my life, and we're approaching 4.5 years together. I definitely learnt a lot about that first relationship in terms of communication and honesty, I think (in the not bottling up emotions sense).

I was always pretty good at school tbh, but "failed" in my own eyes in some respects. My school had this thing where the top like 20 students or something from each cohort were awarded with a prize at the end of the year, and I was never selected in that group. This was pretty weird for me coming out of primary school, where I'd always been one of the top few in the class. I think this made me work harder and figure out how I studied best, which put me in good stead for VCE. I ended up being the Year 12 dux, and also achieving the highest ATAR my school had ever had at that time (since usurped).

I don't think I have a favourite failure, to answer your question directly. There are very many things I've learnt from in my life, and I'm sure there'll be many more in the future. I make mistakes regularly - numerous times daily - but I think everybody does, and that's just part of life.Perhaps what I'm working on most actively at the moment is relevant here: not taking mistakes to heart too much, and taking a step back from them to see that mistakes are not the end of the world.

What is the one of the best or most worthwhile investments you've ever made? (Could be an investment of money, time, energy, etc.)
Relationships of all sorts comes immediately to mind. I don't think you can make a better investment of time than in relationships.

Thinking pragmatically, working hard through high school has paid off for me, I'd say. I've tutored, worked several jobs and received scholarships as a result.

What advice would you give to a smart, driven highschool and/or university student about to enter the "real world"? What advice should they ignore?
I don't think you should ignore any advice. That's not to say you should act on everything you hear, but thinking about advice is a good process IMO. Taking something in and deciding against it isn't the same as ignoring it IMO.

For high school students:
* If you're planning to study at uni, think carefully about what you actually enjoy, and what you want to pursue in your life.
* Try to get involved where you can, and don't just cruise through uni like I did in a sense. Some of the most important traits for the workforce are things you'll pick up in non-academic parts of university life.
* If you're at uni, I'd really recommend working part-time. Seriously.
* Don't be afraid to reach out for help if you're having a tough time making the transition to uni/work. This can be really difficult, and it can honestly creep up on you heaps. It's important to take care of yourself first and foremost.

For uni students, largely the same, but:
* Experience is experience, and your first job certainly doesn't need to be your last one.
* Organise your finances. The sooner the better.
* Don't be afraid to reach out for help if you're having a tough time making the transition to work. This can be really difficult, and it can honestly creep up on you heaps. It's important to take care of yourself first and foremost.

I'll also note here that I'm only in my second year of full-time work myself, so take all of this with a grain of salt haha.

When you feel overwhelmed or unfocused, or have lost your focus temporarily, what do you do? (If helpful: What questions do you ask yourself?)
* Go for a walk
* Drink water
* Mindfulness
* Take a break and just do whatever
* Draw
* Write
* Sport
* Read

Depends on the situation a bit, but those things about are good circuit-breakers for me. I think the key is to just take your mind off things and try to focus on something else for a short period.

First of all, thanks for the awesome answers.

It was interesting to see your take on "failures"  and I agree with your last passage that I bolded and made it red from your answer to that question because more people should take this viewpoint on failures/mistakes.
I too also love George Orwell's novels, I'll be sure to give Keep the Aspidistra Flying a read soon. *Looks at the stacks books on my desk.... :)*

Thanks for the AMA, I wish more of these in the future. Is it time to bring back Mod AMAs for the newer mods?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Mareena on March 26, 2018, 09:50:05 pm
Hey Joseph,
Currently in year 12 atm and I seem like my marks are pretty decent, however I feel like I'm losing the motivation to study now
1) Would you have any tips as to how i'd be able to tackle demotivation?
2) Why is it that some people are unable to see their academic potential while others around them can?
3) Is it possible to achieve 95+ atar even if one scores pretty average in their Half yearlies?

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: anolan on March 27, 2018, 07:30:06 am
In your opinion what are the top 10 Universities in Australia and why?
And, when you really have no idea what you want to study/be/do with your life, then how would you suggest going about looking at options for uni?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: atong35 on March 27, 2018, 09:26:35 am
Is it still possible to get a 35 and above study score if you fail the first SAC that's worth 20% of the outcome mark?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 27, 2018, 10:47:15 am
What do I do if I have a bad teacher for biology?
Thanks  ;D

Hey chiecemi. :)

Having a teacher you don't get on so well with or don't find efficient or whatever else can be pretty frustrating (I'll note here that that doesn't necessarily make them bad - just not as effective for you, which is fine). I've had my fair share of similar frustration, so like, feels haha.

I think my advice here would depend on the details of the situation at hand. What about their teaching style makes them poor for you? Is it a matter that could pretty easily be remedied, like pace of the class? Or is it something more fundamental? It could be a good idea to simply jot down (to yourself) what it is exactly that's causing the issue, and that might give a better indication of how to deal with the situation.

If you feel comfortable and it's appropriate, I'd recommend speaking to the teacher one-on-one to raise your concerns. At the end of the day, your teachers will want you to score highly, and if they can modify something in their own teaching style, they probably will. I've had a few instances like this. For example, one of my teachers spent a few lessons in English Language playing some linguistics-y sort of movie/documentary things, but she knew I didn't learn well that way (as I had raised it), so she let me make summaries of stuff instead. This was a much better outcome for me than getting bitter throughout what would have been pretty fruitless classes for me.

If you don't feel comfortable speaking with them one-on-one, or it wouldn't be appropriate for whatever reason, it could be a good idea to speak to whomever's in charge of that subject, or your VCE Co-ordinator. If the issue isn't resolved, it'll probably just continue as is with no positive solution. But before doing so, really think about what it is specifically that's causing the issue, and also consider (before taking action) if there's anything you can do to remedy the situation.

Also, a related piece of advice: if you end up speaking to somebody about your thoughts, please (for your sake) be respectful as possible. Being brash or abrasive won't be good for anybody - particularly you.

And, of course, if you feel like you need to clarify any Bio content, you can always ask any questions in our VCE Biology questions thread. :)

How many hours did you study every day?

Hey madisonkilleen,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :) A quick disclaimer before answering this: studying more doesn't mean you'll necessarily score more highly. I'm sure you know that already, but I just wanted to emphasise the point haha.

Anyway, I had a pretty consistent routine, I think. I got to school at about 8am every day - so an hour before school actually started. I went to the library (which opened at 8), read the newspaper for a while, and then did some revision for like 30-40 minutes. Then I had school, obviously, which finished at 3.15 - I don't know if you count those hours as studying. Where I perhaps differed to some people was that I didn't go home when school finished; I stayed until about 5pm. I did this for a few reasons:

* I just find it a whole lot easier to get study done early. "Work now, play later" sort of thing. So by being at school from 8am - 5pm, it meant that basically all of my study was done for that day, and I'd got through probably 2-3 hours of decent revision per day (further to school) before 5pm.
* The subsequent benefit for me was that I (virtually) never studied after this time. So, for (virtually) the entirety of Year 12, I didn't study at night. I had nights to myself to do whatever - watch sport, read, chill. My time. Having this time meant I could be refreshed for the next day, because I hadn't been studying all night.
* And in general, I'm more productive in the morning, so I was just being strategic in my study times (a very personal thing).

This definitely wasn't every day, by the way - there were many days where I did go home early. This was particularly true on Mondays, where we finished at 1.50pm for some unknown reason.

Weekends and holidays? To be honest I find it difficult to put a number on it, largely because I very much adopted an "I'll study when I feel it necessary" approach. I've spoken before on these forums about one of my favourite teachers in high school. He was a really amazing artist - and quite prolific. One day, I asked him what he did when he didn't feel like painting, and he said, "I don't paint". And that really influenced the way I looked at studying. There will, of course, be times when you have an upcoming exam or something, or you're feeling a bit behind - and you'll just need to buckle up and get some revision done. But for me, if I didn't feel like studying at any given time, I didn't. I found it counter-productive, because I'd just get frustrated or angry, and the entire session would be pretty pointless.

Instead, I think a lot of my motivation came from inner drive or whatever - or just wanting to do as best as I possibly could in my final years of high school. And what that meant was that I actually did want to study. Not necessarily because I enjoyed the process, but because I wanted to do well - and that acted as a big incentive for me. So, frankly, I never really saw study or revision to be a big burden or anything like that; I instead saw it as an opportunity to improve, to learn some cool stuff, and to put myself in a better position that what I was in to do really well.

My answer here has become pretty tangential and diverted from the original question haha, but to answer you directly: probably a bit before and after school on week days, and sporadically on weekends/holidays (definitely ramped up toward the end of the year, though).

Bit broad, but how did you study during uni?

Broad indeed! ;D But hmm, basically:

* Did my readings. I tried to do these really actively, by which I mean not just reading them for the sake of reading them. I'd highlight key parts, take notes etc. Doing this made me feel prepared for class, and more confident in voicing opinions etc. in tutes.
* I went to my lectures and took notes. For my first year or so, I listened to the majority of my lectures online - it seemed a pretty good life, and was easier for me logistically. But after a while, I made the decision to actually go to my lectures, because I wasn't feeling all that engaged with uni. My marks were fine when I was listening online, but they improved a fair bit when I started going to lectures. I think the reason for this is that I was less distracted and more connected with the content when I was physically present.

Honestly, that's practically all I did on the content side of things. I didn't feel I needed too much more than a really focused effort when doing my readings and when in class. If I wanted to test myself on the content, I tried to verbally explain how things worked to my mirror (or, y'know, another human haha).

As for assignments:

* I really tried hard to start early and to stay on top of things. I had an assessment timeline each semester, where I could tick things off as I went. Having this right from Week 1 meant I could prepare for busy periods, too. So like, if I knew I had four essays due in Week 8, I'd internally change those deadlines so that they were more spread.
* I studied pretty hard for exams, because I figured that might be the difference between me and other people studying that unit. I've spoken about summaries before in this thread in relation to high school, but I also used them a lot at uni. The process itself of summarising stuff really helped to solidify what information was most important, and how different parts of the content linked to each other.

Arts, I'm sure, is quite different to other degrees, but that's what worked for me (broadly). :)

Also (afterthought), I tried to study at uni as much as I could, because I find home really quite distracting, and I'm not as productive as a result. It's all about knowing how you study best, and then playing to those strengths.

At the moment it's very full on hahahah. I have 3 assignments due within the next month and a bit  :// I know once I start them though it will be easier to get done, so I'm kinda looking forward to the mid-sem break just so I can stop stressing about finding time to actually make a start. There's also so much content so revising by summarising notes from lecture slides is very time-consuming, but does feel very satisfactory when I finish and can tick it off my to-do-list.

First year in general is pretty fun so far (only week 5 though lol) !! Just the social side is super busy !!! I've met so many new people and there have already been so many social events, but it's a nice break from seeing the same people everyday in highschool. The workload isn't unbearable but it does keep you busy (especially the readings for law ahhh).
But overall, I'm managing ! Just need to get on top of the assignments >:(

I can imagine! Mid-sem, yeah, that's a fantastic time to get back on track - definitely recommend it.

Glad things are going pretty well overall. Those social connections you make now have the potential to last a long time, so the time invested is certainly worthwhile. :)

Hey I was wondering if you ever did poorly in a school assessment in Year 12? Like is it possible to have stuffed up one school exam and still achieve a +99 ATAR? Thanks

Hey studyign123,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

I guess this depends a bit on what constitutes doing "poorly" for you. But yeah, there were certainly assessments in Year 12 where I wasn't happy/was disappointed with my marks. I find this difficult to answer, though, because a poor mark for one person could be an amazing mark for another - it's very subjective. So I'll move on to this part of your question:

Like is it possible to have stuffed up one school exam and still achieve a +99 ATAR?

Absoluuuteeeeely! For context, I studied six subjects at Year 12 level. The difference between me scoring a perfect study score of 50 in that sixth subject (the equivalent of a very, very high Band 6 in NSW), and not studying that subject at all, was about 0.35 on my ATAR (according to ATAR Calc). Now, this is perhaps a little deceptive for a number of reasons and should certainly be taken with a grain of salt, but the point I'm making is that each subject in isolation probably won't have a mammoth impact on your results. And with that in mind, you can see how any given assessment within that subject is even less meaningful (again, in isolation).

There are countless examples of people bombing exams or whatever and then still doing amazingly well. One of the administrators of these very forums was pretty shattered after their Extension 1 half yearly exam, and their result placed them second last in their cohort. But there are a number of ways to deal with stuff like this, and he decided to let it motivate him to improve and never let it happen again. By the end of the year, he was back at the top of his cohort, ended up with a Band 6, and managed a 99.80 ATAR lol.

So, yeah, honestly: don't let a single mark drag you down, even if it seems like the worst thing in the world at the time. Don't get me wrong - you can be disappointed. Whatever you're feeling is valid. But like, there's no reason that single mark is going to preclude you from an incredibly high ATAR. :)

First of all, thanks for the awesome answers.

It was interesting to see your take on "failures"  and I agree with your last passage that I bolded and made it red from your answer to that question because more people should take this viewpoint on failures/mistakes.
I too also love George Orwell's novels, I'll be sure to give Keep the Aspidistra Flying a read soon. *Looks at the stacks books on my desk.... :)*

Thanks for the AMA, I wish more of these in the future. Is it time to bring back Mod AMAs for the newer mods?

No worries!

Yeah, we might get some more AMAs going if people are keen. :)

Hey Joseph,
Currently in year 12 atm and I seem like my marks are pretty decent, however I feel like I'm losing the motivation to study now
1) Would you have any tips as to how i'd be able to tackle demotivation?
2) Why is it that some people are unable to see their academic potential while others around them can?
3) Is it possible to achieve 95+ atar even if one scores pretty average in their Half yearlies?



Hey Mareena,

Welcome to ATAR Notes! :) I'll answer your questions one-by-one.

1) Would you have any tips as to how i'd be able to tackle demotivation?
Good question - relevant question at this time of year. I think it's important to take a bit of a step back and work out why you're starting to feel less motivated. Is it because you're burnt out? Are you not finding your subjects interesting? Are other parts of your life more important to you? Whatever your answer, that'll probably affect how you deal (I just tried to spell this as "deel" lol) with the lack of motivation. But some general tips:

* Simply take a break from it all. If your marks are pretty good, you at least have the comfort of knowing that you definitely have what it takes to do well for the rest of the year. The only thing that'll stop that occurring, really, is you - you are your own most important asset. As a result, it's really important to take care of yourself, and if that means taking a bit of break, then that's fine. Of course, this depends a bit on deadlines you have coming up, and whether you need to study for tests etc., but breaks don't have to be prolonged. It could just be one full day off, or even a few hours where you go for a walk and just chill. Some of my best ideas come when I'm walking, and what I find interesting is this: it gives me time to reflect on things, and I often realise how inefficient I've been. Which leads me to my next point:
* Try to make your revision as efficient as possible. If you're dealing with a lack of motivation, the last thing you want is prolonged study sessions of negligible worth. Instead, what you want is something short, sharp and productive. So, it might be worth thinking about how you're actually going about studying at the moment. Is that what's leading to the lack of motivation (quite possible)? It might come down to changing your study location, or getting rid of all distractions, or something like that - you've probably heard it all before. But honestly, I think really long study sessions where you're not being that productive can be pretty harmful in a number of ways.
* Otherwise, from what I can gather, you want to do well - otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question. Think about what goals you have for the rest of this year. Whether it's to get into a particular course, or hit a certain mark, or something entirely different, use that as motivation.

Overall, my experience with motivation and stuff is that often, the worst bit is that feeling where you're like, "I really should study, but eh." I always felt better when I was actually doing something - even if I just tricked myself into thinking that I was being productive.

2) Why is it that some people are unable to see their academic potential while others around them can?
Really huge question. By "see", do you mean "recognise", or "fulfil"?

Either way, I think there would be innumerable factors at play here: environment, genetics, life events. This links back a little to determinism, and I'm not sure my knowledge of philosophical theory is sound enough to posit a contention with confidence haha.

3) Is it possible to achieve 95+ atar even if one scores pretty average in their Half yearlies?

Yep, 100%. I addressed a very similar question above, so I'll just copy and paste my response so that you don't miss it:

"There are countless examples of people bombing exams or whatever and then still doing amazingly well. One of the administrators of these very forums was pretty shattered after their Extension 1 half yearly exam, and their result placed them second last in their cohort. But there are a number of ways to deal with stuff like this, and he decided to let it motivate him to improve and never let it happen again. By the end of the year, he was back at the top of his cohort, ended up with a Band 6, and managed a 99.80 ATAR lol."

In your opinion what are the top 10 Universities in Australia and why?
And, when you really have no idea what you want to study/be/do with your life, then how would you suggest going about looking at options for uni?

Hey anolan,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

In your opinion what are the top 10 Universities in Australia and why?
My knowledge of universities outside Victoria and New South Wales is pretty limited, and I've only attended one as a student (Monash University in Melbourne), so I'm not really qualified to give a top ten. I think it would be a near-impossible exercise, anyway, because different unis have different strengths. For example, if I were ranking them by prestige, or their Health Sciences courses, or their Law courses, or their physical campuses, or their teaching efficacy, or whatever else, the rankings would probably be very different.

And, when you really have no idea what you want to study/be/do with your life, then how would you suggest going about looking at options for uni?
I feel well-versed in this haha.

Number one point: don't stress. There are a lot of pressures floating around that might make it feel like you need to know what you want to do with your life, but let's think about this pragmatically. Once you put in your preferences for uni (if you even want to go to uni), what happens? You (hopefully) get accepted into a course, and start studying at whatever institution. If you hate it, sweet - you can transfer. If you love it, awesome. If you transfer, is that a huge deal? Nah - it's actually very common at uni. One very prominent member of these forums transferred through four different uni degrees, and still graduated on time!

Once you get to the end of your degree, then what? Hopefully, you've found something you're passionate about over the course of your education, and can pursue a job in whatever field that is. What happens if you hate that job? You can change jobs. What are the stats, these days: an average of seven career changes over the course of your career or something? The workforce isn't how it used to be, where you'd get a job and then stay in that job for several decades. There are heaps of opportunities out there, and by the time you finish your education, there'll probably be lots of jobs available that don't even exist right now.

So yeah, point one is to try not to stress too much, because it's pretty fruitless.

But to answer your question about working out uni options, I think (broad) research is the key. I remember being in a similar situation. I'd get up a list of all degrees available at a bunch of unis, and delete those that didn't interest me at all. I'd be left with a bunch, then go through the list again and repeat the process. Then, at least you have a "shortlist" of degrees, so to speak. And researching those becomes a whole less intimidating and overwhelming than researching uni in general.

I think speaking to as many people as you can is important. Get their views, opinions etc. Asking questions on ATAR Notes is a great start. ;) Some threads you might be interested in:

* How University Works
* Mega University Guide - Uni Resources

If I asked you write now the following question, what would you say?

"What are you interested in pursuing after Year 12?"

Your default answer is probably, "I don't know" (mine certainly was), but think beyond that. If pushed, what would you say? It doesn't matter if it's like three or four entirely unrelated fields - that's at least somewhere to start. If you have a careers counsellor or similar at school, speak with them to see what your options are. But yeah, the whole process can definitely be overwhelming and really frustrating, so we're here for you if you need it. ;D

Is it still possible to get a 35 and above study score if you fail the first SAC that's worth 20% of the outcome mark?

Hey atong35,

Welcome to ATAR Notes! :)

What do you mean by failing? Like, getting a low mark, or literally getting an "N" grade? To my knowledge, you'll need an "S" (satisfactory) grade in order to pass, but I believe you can still internally "fail" whilst still receiving an "S". Disclaimer: not an expert on this particular area of the VCE system, but thought I should mention it. Happy to be corrected.

In regard to the study score of 35, yeah, definitely still possible on the assumption that you get that satisfactory grade. The reason it's still possible is that your raw scores in your SACs don't actually matter that much. What matters is your ranking in your cohort, plus your exam performance. It's not really worth investing too much time into understanding how the technical side of VCE works, but if you're interested, there's a great thread on it here.

I'd try to focus your efforts instead on improving for the next SAC, because that's ultimately what will help you achieve that 35+ study score. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: yanzzz18 on March 27, 2018, 12:21:14 pm
What is the best advice you could give a student doing the HSC and what do you think the best way to improve is ?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 27, 2018, 04:52:18 pm
What is the best advice you could give a student doing the HSC and what do you think the best way to improve is ?

Hey yanzzz18,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

What is the best advice you could give a student doing the HSC
Best advice for a student doing the HSC, hmm. I wrote a thread a little while back with my top 41 tips for the HSC, which you can find here - that might be of interest. :) But I'm just thinking about it now, and what comes to mind is this:

Focus on yourself - not on what other people are doing.

The reason I say that is that it's really easy to get sucked into drawing comparisons between yourself and other people. And doing that doesn't really benefit anybody. Why? Because:

* Everybody has different abilities, goals and aspirations, so it's basically comparing apples with oranges.
* In all likelihood, it will only lead to stress - "oh, so and so got such and such mark, and I only got this!"
* Is making these sorts of comparisons going to improve your exam performance? Unlikely.

I'm not sure if this is or has been an issue for you, but I'd just be wary of it.

Anyway, that's obviously not directly content-related, so I'll give you a bonus tip:

* Simply knowing content is only the first step. The difference between writing a pretty good exam and writing a great exam is nailing those inevitable curveball questions. To best manoeuvre the tricky questions, you need to be able to have adaptable responses. What I mean by this is that you're not just regurgitating content, but can answer each question on its merits. If you simply learn when to regurgitate certain information based on the question type, you're really vulnerable to falling whenever NESA chucks in a trick question (which, I'll point out, can be difficult to spot in the pressure of the exam).

* SO, to act on the above, I'd really work hard on conceptual understandings. For math subjects, for example, don't just learn formulae - learn why it is that those formulae work. Ask your teachers. If they don't give you a good response, ask here on ATAR Notes - there'll be heaps of people willing to help. :)

What do you think the best way to improve is?
Well, step one to me is working out what's going wrong in the first place. Sometimes, this can be more difficult than it initially appears. For example, if you get a question wrong on your half yearly Extension 1 exam, why was that the case? Did you mis-read the question? Did you feel rushed in the exam? Did you simply not know the content?

If you just didn't know the content, why didn't you? Did you study inefficiently? Did you just not put in the required work?

There's a nimiety of potential reasons for doing poorly or not as well as you'd hoped, and identifying these reasons is key. To do this, you sort of have to become a self-aware studier, which will be good for you anyway. Anyway, once you've worked out your weaknesses, you can work really hard on improving those specific things. It's hard to give more detailed advice without knowing what it is exactly that you're looking to improve on; feel free to respond to this message with the particulars, and I'll do my best to give some solid advice. :)

It's not all doom and gloom, by the way - you can also emphasise your strengths! For example, if you work really well in the morning, awesome! Get up early and study then. If you're a great visual learner, wicked! Draw heaps of diagrams. Not playing to your strengths literally makes no sense. It would be like John Howard trying to play cricket for a job instead of engaging in political debate - senseless.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: BrainyChick on March 28, 2018, 04:47:08 pm
study tips for each subject during your HSC years?
How did you study during uni?
How did you make use of practice/past papers?[/li][/list]

Thank you!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: brenden on March 28, 2018, 04:53:41 pm
Will you marry me?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Poet on March 28, 2018, 04:59:55 pm
Will you marry me?
Are you single?
And if so, will you marry me?

Spoiler
And if not, would you consider leaving your partner..?

I am feeling a strange case of deja-vu...
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 28, 2018, 05:24:55 pm
Will you marry me?
I ship it.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Potatohater on March 28, 2018, 10:08:11 pm
1. For uni assignments, how do you push yourself to aim for distinctions/ high distinctions, rather than just settling for a credit, particularly when the unit isn't all as interesting as you expected?
2. Can we expect any answers to be delivered in video format? ;)
3. How are you such an inspirational human specimen?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 10:15:00 am
    Hello!

    Do you have any
study tips for each subject during your HSC years?
How did you study during uni?
How did you make use of practice/past papers?[/li][/list]

Thank you!

Hey BrainyChick,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :) My thoughts below.

Do you have any study tips for each subject during your HSC years?
My best study tips are probably cross-discipline (so, not subject specific). Things like to-do lists (which I spoke about in this post here) were really helpful for me in terms of keeping on top of the workload. Obviously the HSC years are a bit different to the rest of high school, because the stakes are higher - for me, this was actually a good thing, because it provided direction. From Year 7-10, I just sort of floated through, and didn't extend myself as much as I possibly could because I just didn't see the value in it (which I stand by today). Don't get me wrong: I still tried. I just didn't invest my absolute everything into school, because other parts of my life were more important.

Anyway, to get back to the study tips, I'll break them down broadly by subject type:

English subjects:

* Need quotes? Sweet - this isn't something you can really learn overnight. I'd recommend having a "quote bank" of sorts that you add to throughout the year - potentially even break this down into subject content. This is a good example of what I'm talking about; it's for VCE English Language, so won't be relevant for you specifically, but I hope it gives an indication of how you might like to set up some sort of quote database if relevant to your particular subjects.

* Work on your writing. This is, of course, relevant for all subjects, but particularly for Englishes (an interesting word, incidentally). I think there's a temptation in HSC/VCE English to try to wow the assessors with big words and fancy sentence structures, but it's simply unnecessary. All other things equal, a more concise sentence is better than a highfalutin one. I like Orwell's philosophy: if you can feasibly cut out a word, do it; if you can use a simpler word without losing anything, do it. Assessors won't be impressed by obscure words or, indeed, lots of words. Instead, they'll be impressed by clear expression and clarity of thought - and that's what you should work on.

* Timing is such a big thing. It's one thing to be able to write an amazing essay, but another entirely to be able to do it under time conditions. This might sound silly, but I think handwriting essays is really beneficial; it'll get you in the groove, and help you prepare for exams.

Math/science subjects:

* To rise above, try to understand why things are as they are. Don't just rote learn a formula; work on understanding why that formula is how it is. If you have a conceptual understanding of how the math functions, you're in a really good position. What it means is that if you get thrown a curveball question by NESA, you'll be able to tackle it in a way that others might not be able to.

* Practice questions - just smash 'em out. Don't do them for the sake of doing them, though - notice what you get wrong, and then work on those mistakes.

* Don't be afraid to re-do questions. It's not a waste of time. If you get a question wrong, that's fine - everybody gets questions wrong. What a lot of people don't do, though, is work on them until they can get them right. If you get a question wrong, work out why (as per point #2), leave it for a few days, and then give it another crack. It's all about the process here.

Humanities subjects:

* Lots of content? Sweet - what you need is to learn it in whatever way suits you best. I've spoken previously in this thread about different study techniques, but this is a good article that shows there are more ways to study effectively than you might consider initially. I used mnemonics heaps, and tried to link those mnemonics to things I knew and enjoyed, such as sport. Making it personal, and linking the content to your own life experiences, makes it a lot easier.

* If you need to remember definitions, I honestly don't see the issue with rote learning them - on the proviso that you also understand the definitions conceptually. I used rote learning all the time for definitions, and it practically always worked for me.

* Work on answer structure, particularly for longer questions (so like, those worth 4+ marks). These questions can make up a decent proportion of the end-of-year exam (depending on the subject a little), and can really make the difference between a good paper and a great one. Work with your teacher to see what NESA (or VCAA in Victoria) is really looking for. A lot of the times, answers are pretty formulaic; all you need to do is work out what that formula is.

How did you study during uni?
Very similarly to how I studied through high school! I answered a very similar question in this post here, but I'll copy and paste my answer so that you don't miss it. :)

"* Did my readings. I tried to do these really actively, by which I mean not just reading them for the sake of reading them. I'd highlight key parts, take notes etc. Doing this made me feel prepared for class, and more confident in voicing opinions etc. in tutes.

* I went to my lectures and took notes. For my first year or so, I listened to the majority of my lectures online - it seemed a pretty good life, and was easier for me logistically. But after a while, I made the decision to actually go to my lectures, because I wasn't feeling all that engaged with uni. My marks were fine when I was listening online, but they improved a fair bit when I started going to lectures. I think the reason for this is that I was less distracted and more connected with the content when I was physically present.

Honestly, that's practically all I did on the content side of things. I didn't feel I needed too much more than a really focused effort when doing my readings and when in class. If I wanted to test myself on the content, I tried to verbally explain how things worked to my mirror (or, y'know, another human haha).

As for assignments:

* I really tried hard to start early and to stay on top of things. I had an assessment timeline each semester, where I could tick things off as I went. Having this right from Week 1 meant I could prepare for busy periods, too. So like, if I knew I had four essays due in Week 8, I'd internally change those deadlines so that they were more spread.

* I studied pretty hard for exams, because I figured that might be the difference between me and other people studying that unit. I've spoken about summaries before in this thread in relation to high school, but I also used them a lot at uni. The process itself of summarising stuff really helped to solidify what information was most important, and how different parts of the content linked to each other.

Arts, I'm sure, is quite different to other degrees, but that's what worked for me (broadly). :)

Also (afterthought), I tried to study at uni as much as I could, because I find home really quite distracting, and I'm not as productive as a result. It's all about knowing how you study best, and then playing to those strengths."

How did you make use of practice/past papers?
I think practice exams really made a difference for me, and actually gave me a lot of confidence going into the exam itself. I started doing practice papers in, like, July? August? I can't really remember specifically, but probably some point around then. I hadn't learnt all the content at that point, so some of the exams were open-book and not time-bound. I didn't have an issue with doing this, because I could learn how to construct really good responses without the pressure of being under time conditions. Sometimes, I'd complete a practice exam over several days.

As time went on, I gained confidence in my knowledge of the content, and starting doing all of the practice exams in time conditions. I also tried to be a bit strategic and complete the exams at relevant times of day. For example, in VCE we have a subject called Health & Human Development (sort of similar to PDHPE). I knew my actual exam started at like 3pm. This isn't when I naturally study best, but I tried to do heaps of my HHD practice exams around that time to mimic the conditions I'd eventually have to face at the end of the year. I think this helped.

One other thing I'll say is that practice exams for the sake of it is pretty silly IMO. I spent a lot longer marking my exams, making notes on what I was doing well and poorly etc., than I spent doing the exams themselves. This is where the value really comes, because it allows you to work specifically on what's not going well for you - and there's no better preparation for the exam!

Will you marry me?

Hey friend!

I am very happily in a relationship, won't be leaving my partner and, therefore, will have to politely turn down your very kind offer haha.

<3

P.S. Totally not a generic answer.

1. For uni assignments, how do you push yourself to aim for distinctions/ high distinctions, rather than just settling for a credit, particularly when the unit isn't all as interesting as you expected?
2. Can we expect any answers to be delivered in video format? ;)
3. How are you such an inspirational human specimen?

Hello, friend!

For uni assignments, how do you push yourself to aim for distinctions/ high distinctions, rather than just settling for a credit, particularly when the unit isn't all as interesting as you expected?
Hmm. Good question.

In my first semester, I really had no idea what to expect. I was on a scholarship that, from memory, required at least a Distinction average to maintain - so I had a bit of pressure in that regard. That probably acted as motivation in my very first semester because like, I didn't want to lose the scholarship haha. After that, though, there were probably a few things:

* Internal drive. I have this thing where if I'm investing energy into something, I don't see the point in doing it by halves. I figured that since I had the opportunity to study at university, I might as well give it a huge crack - and so, I tried hard.
* I'd developed some pretty good study habits in Year 12, so honestly, not that much changed. I did my work, I tried hard, I got good results. That's another benefit of developing good habits early - they sort of become ingrained, and are part of who you are.
* Honestly, I had this sense that I needed to prove myself. I got a pretty good ATAR and then enrolled in a straight Bachelor of Arts - some people would (erroneously) see this as "wasting" the ATAR or whatever. My girlfriend studies Med, my brother studies Law, my best friend studies Science; I felt as though, in some sense, I was inferior to them. I'm very glad to say that I'm now well and truly over this train of thought but like, it was an easy thought to have at the time.
* I didn't know what I wanted to do after uni, so keeping my options open with wide marks seemed a good idea.
* On a similar line of thought, I vaguely had in my mind that pursuing a PhD would be a good thing to do, and you obviously need good marks for that.
* I wanted a scholarship for Honours.
* And, lastly, I got trapped a little bit. As time went on and as the HD run continued, the more and more I didn't want to stuff it up. I would have been really angry with myself if I got, say, a 79 Distinction in one unit, and that dropped my GPA below the perfect 4.00. In reality it means very little, but this honestly was a factor for me - not a healthy one, or a productive one, but one nonetheless.

Can we expect any answers to be delivered in video format? ;)

How are you such an inspirational human specimen?
Maybe I'm born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline.

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Potatohater on March 29, 2018, 10:30:42 am
Not gonna lie, I had this page open waiting for your reply and man, this was so relatable!
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I got a pretty good ATAR and then enrolled in a straight Bachelor of Arts - some people would (erroneously) see this as "wasting" the ATAR or whatever. My girlfriend studies Med, my brother studies Law, my best friend studies Science; I felt as though, in some sense, I was inferior to them.
I may not have the external pressure to get distinctions + but hopefully some of your words will pull me out of my lazy "I'll just make this good enough for a credit" attitude
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 10:39:50 am
Not gonna lie, I had this page open waiting for your reply and man, this was so relatable!I may not have the external pressure to get distinctions + but hopefully some of your words will pull me out of my lazy "I'll just make this good enough for a credit" attitude

I think the thing to remember is that you never know where good marks will take you. They're not the be all and end all, but having good marks has certainly resulted in a bunch of opportunities for me I otherwise wouldn't have had.

P.S. Did you appreciate my video response?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: appleandbee on March 29, 2018, 03:39:44 pm
What is writing a 10,000-20,000 word honours thesis like? I've been looking at a few honours and masters programs, and I'm finding the ANU honours program a bit off-putting because they require a 20,000 word thesis as opposed to an Oxford taught masters degree (10,000 word thesis). I'm reasonably confident of being able to write 10,000 words (I'm use to writing 2,000-5,000 word reports and university essays), but 20,000 seems a bit of a stretch.

Also since you are considering a PhD, does spending 4-5 years on one research question and doing a 80,000-100,000 word thesis scare/worry you? Even though I find research interesting (not as a career though), the PhD time commitments seems beyond me. I have a lot of respect for people that complete PhDs because of the perseverance involved.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 03:53:21 pm
What is writing a 10,000-20,000 word honours thesis like? I've been looking at a few honours and masters programs, and I'm finding the ANU honours program a bit off-putting because they require a 20,000 word thesis as opposed to an Oxford taught masters degree (10,000 word thesis). I'm reasonably confident of being able to write 10,000 words (I'm use to writing 2,000-5,000 word reports and university essays), but 20,000 seems a bit of a stretch.

Also since you are considering a PhD, does spending 4-5 years on one research question and doing a 80,000-100,000 word thesis scare/worry you? Even though I find research interesting (not as a career though), the PhD time commitments seems beyond me. I have a lot of respect for people that complete PhDs because of the perseverance involved.

Hey appleandbee. Thanks for your questions. :)

What is writing a 10,000-20,000 word honours thesis like?
You know what? I loved it. I wished it could have been longer, honestly. There were parts of my topic I couldn't explore in enough depth due to word constraints, and even then my first draft was still like 35,000 words. I had to cut it down pretty significantly (largely I just improved phrasing, but I still would have loved to have more words up my sleeve).

The process was pretty great, from topic conception to final submission. Don't get me wrong: stressful at times. I think every single person in my cohort - myself included - thought they wouldn't finish on time. But overall, I think it was a great experience, one that I learnt a lot from, and one I'd be happy to do again. Perhaps the best thing for me was that I had a project of my own, and felt I was genuinely filling a gap in literature. Was pretty cool.

I've been looking at a few honours and masters programs, and I'm finding the ANU honours program a bit off-putting because they require a 20,000 word thesis as opposed to an Oxford taught masters degree (10,000 word thesis). I'm reasonably confident of being able to write 10,000 words (I'm use to writing 2,000-5,000 word reports and university essays), but 20,000 seems a bit of a stretch.
Honestly, I think you'd be okay either way. If you find a topic you're passionate about, you'd probably surprise yourself with how much you can write. A pretty big portion of my thesis was a review of literature - this can take up a fair chunk of your word count without it really seeming like it at the time. And like, I'm guessing those Honours programs are a year long? You'll certainly have the time you need.

Also since you are considering a PhD, does spending 4-5 years on one research question and doing a 80,000-100,000 word thesis scare/worry you? Even though I find research interesting (not as a career though), the PhD time commitments seems beyond me. I have a lot of respect for people that complete PhDs because of the perseverance involved.
Good question.

Does it scare me? Hmm. I think it scares me insofar as I'm not sure where it'd get me. So like, what happens after those 4-5 years? Obviously there would be financial concerns, too - and I'm not sure how I'd deal with those at this time of my life. The actual process doesn't really worry me. I think I have the dedication, consistency and drive to get through it and come out the other end with something nice and meaningful. It's probably more what happens afterward that makes me hesitant, y'feel?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: hums_student on March 29, 2018, 04:04:26 pm
Hey man! So glad this thread exists, anyway for VCE, would you recommend primarily focusing on subjects you think would probably be your primary 4 and less on the other 2 subjects or is it better to spend my time equally across all my subjects, even if 2 of them will only contribute 10%? Thanks in advance  :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 04:13:33 pm
Hey man! So glad this thread exists, anyway for VCE, would you recommend primarily focusing on subjects you think would probably be your primary 4 and less on the other 2 subjects or is it better to spend my time equally across all my subjects, even if 2 of them will only contribute 10%? Thanks in advance  :)

Hey, no worries at all. :)

Another good question - this one comes up a fair bit. My personal recommendation? Don't neglect what you think will be your bottom two. Why? Because it's really hard to predict which subjects will be in your bottom two.

The reason for this is that the races you're running with each of your subjects isn't an even race. Your study scores depend on how everybody else in the state performs in that subject; in essence, you're competing against slightly different cohorts each time. So even if you feel like you're doing way better in, say, Chemistry than Revs, it's not necessarily the case that your scores will reflect that.

Personal story time.

I had the same question as you at pretty much the same point of my VCE experience. I was starting to think about doing well, and what would give me the best possible chance to do well. Throughout Year 12, I thought more and more about my top four. I got a 48 in Business Management in Year 11, so this was my situation:

- Business Management: 48
- English Language: ? (guaranteed top four - only English subject)
- Visual Communication & Design: ?
- Health & Human Development: ?
- Psychology: ?
- Further Maths: ?

I was very confident that Further would be my sixth subject. It wasn't that I was terrible at it or hated it - I just spent a lot more time on my other subjects. VCD I was nearly 100% sure would be in my top four. The way I saw it, it was my best subject - and I didn't drop a single mark throughout the entire year. HHD and Psych I figured would be pretty similar in the end, but one would get in the top four and the other would just miss out.

Because I was so confident about Further & VCD, I tried to be strategic, and ended up using my Further classes to work on my VCD folio. Basically, I was gunning for a 50 in VisCom, and figured I'd sacrifice my Further score a bit to get there. It worked insofar as I got 100% for all of my internal VCD assessments. But what I didn't really take into account was the exam. My plan didn't really work out in the end:

- English Language: forced top four (was my fourth best after scaling, anyway)
- Health & Human Development: top four
- Pyschology: top four
- Business Management: top four
- Further Maths: bottom two
- Visual Communication & Design: bottom two

Despite spending ages on it (read: aaaaaages) throughout the year, VCD ended up being my worst subject. How I managed a higher score in Further than VCD, I'll never know. But I think it demonstrates the point that even if you're really confident, trying to predict your top four/bottom two subjects is a pretty risky business. For that reason, I definitely wouldn't sacrifice subjects for the sake of others. My story here isn't isolated - very many people would have similar stories to tell.

That's my personal take on it. ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: hums_student on March 29, 2018, 04:31:42 pm
Thanks for the advice! I was initially planning to spend 99% of my time on my 3 best subjects for the holidays and neglect the other 2, guess I should re-evaluate my plan a bit!  ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 04:33:30 pm
Thanks for the advice! I was initially planning to spend 99% of my time on my 3 best subjects for the holidays and neglect the other 2, guess I should re-evaluate my plan a bit!  ;D

I mean, not necessarily - that's just my take on things, probably skewed by my own experiences. And I'm just some random guy who you've never met (to my knowledge ;)). I think it's risky to invest such a proportion of time and energy into just some of your subjects, but hey, it might work swimmingly for you.

I'd just be really aware that it's difficult to predict such things. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: PhoenixxFire on March 29, 2018, 04:42:46 pm
I’m trying to figure out how to word this as a question haha.

I guess I just want to know your thoughts/experience with choosing what subjects (units?) to do at uni.

Like did you just choose things that you thought were interesting, did you do some subjects that weren’t interesting because they would help you get a job/be useful later in life? How would you recommend choosing what to do?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 29, 2018, 05:02:51 pm
I’m trying to figure out how to word this as a question haha.

I guess I just want to know your thoughts/experience with choosing what subjects (units?) to do at uni.

Like did you just choose things that you thought were interesting, did you do some subjects that weren’t interesting because they would help you get a job/be useful later in life? How would you recommend choosing what to do?

How I went about subject selection and how I did subject selection are probably different questions.

How I did it:

* So, I used this course map a fair bit to help me understand what criteria I needed to satisfy in order to complete my degree. Can't link the specific course map, but it's the one under "Bachelor of Arts - Dean's Scholars (2013)" at this link.

* In my first semester, I basically had a free hit at four completely different units. My selection process was honestly just scrolling through all of the different areas of study I had available to me, and thinking, "which of these most tickles my whiskers?" I thought at the time I wanted to major in Psychology, and I'd studied that at VCE level, so that was my first-chosen subject (and my first dropped lol). I felt I was pretty ignorant with history and politics and stuff, so I went with International Studies next. Then, I thought Human Rights Theory sounded pretty cool - I was tossing up between this and Philosophy (should have gone with Philosophy). Linguistics was my last-chosen subject. I initially chose something different, but changed it to Linguistics in Week 2 of the semester. I'll note here that after I'd chosen the broad areas of study I was interested in (Ling, International Studies, HRT, Psych), my units were pretty much chosen for me (just the first year first semester unit for each of them).

* I didn't hate any of those units enough to drop them for my second semester, so I just did the second semester equivalent for each of them.

In second year, things became a bit more interesting, because I wasn't just doing the first-year sequence for four subjects. Basically, my process from that point onward:

* Work out what I wanted to major in.
* Do the subjects that sounded coolest for those subjects as soon as I could (except on one occasion, where I really stuffed up and ended up missing a unit I really wanted to do altogether).

By "look the coolest", I also mean, "had no group work involved". There were several occasions where I avoided entire units just because they had assessed group work - not something I'd recommend to others.

Nearer the end of my degree, I ended up taking a few units where I knew I could get good marks - again, not something I'd recommend. Definitely a regret. It's not that I wasted those units - I still enjoyed them. I just feel like I missed an opportunity to really broaden myself and my skills. For example, I should have learnt a language at uni, but thought it'd be too hard and affect my marks. Really bad decision. In cases where I had the choice between two units, and one seemed slightly more interesting but the other seemed slightly easier, I went the easier option. Really dumb decision. I think it was a relic of a unit I did at some point called Topics in Indian Philosophy, where I only just scraped an HD and thought for the majority of the semester that it was going to ruin by precious, precious GPA. Horrible mentality.

Did you do some subjects that weren’t interesting because they would help you get a job/be useful later in life?
So to answer this part directly, nah. I never took units for sake of employment, because I had no idea what I wanted to do and, therefore, what would be relevant hahaha. I mostly just took what I thought I'd enjoy most, with a few decisions near the end being influenced by grades and other factors (as discussed above).

How would you recommend choosing what to do?
* Choose what looks most interesting.
* Make sure you satisfy prerequisites for other units/further study you really want to do.
* Consider employment if relevant. It wasn't for me, but it might be for you.

In terms of logistically how to do that, I spent a fair bit of time researching units online (hello, ATAR Notes' unit reviews!) and seeing what they were like. I'd basically get a short-list of like 30 possible units, then got rid of them one-by-one until I was left with my perfect (so I thought) four units for that semester.

But yeah, I definitely didn't do this perfectly - or even particularly well.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: appleandbee on March 29, 2018, 06:15:19 pm
Thanks so much for your reply  :D

If you learn any language, regardless of difficulty or usefulness, which one/s would you learn?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: AngelWings on March 29, 2018, 09:46:30 pm
I thought FB3 would ask this, but nope... so I will. What is your patronus?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: jmcdougall19 on March 30, 2018, 03:32:22 pm
How did you find the time to homework, study notes, assignments, practice papers ect. Im finding it hard to complete all these "to-do's" in one afternoon. How did you manage your workload?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: dcesaona on March 30, 2018, 03:47:03 pm
My biggest problem is I feel guilty whenever I'm not doing work. Sometimes I procrastinate and then I "reprimand" myself by limiting myself in my "free time". I honestly don't remember the last time I fully watched a movie. I was wondering if you ever felt like this during your HSC? If so how did you deal with it? Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Potatohater on March 30, 2018, 10:01:55 pm
P.S. Did you appreciate my video response?

Mmmmm yes and no. Yes because you did it and we got to see that gorgeous face of yours, but also no because it was too short
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: K888 on March 30, 2018, 10:13:33 pm
Mmmmm yes and no. Yes because you did it and we got to see that gorgeous face of yours, but also no because it was too short
I'm totally predicting more marriage proposals to come in this thread
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 03, 2018, 10:27:46 am
Sorry, folks - had a bit of a break over the long weekend. I'm back now and happy to field more questions!

Thanks so much for your reply  :D

If you learn any language, regardless of difficulty or usefulness, which one/s would you learn?

No worries!

Any language - that's tough. I think my default response would usually be along the lines of difficulty and usefulness haha, so like, what's left? Sentimentality? How nice it sounds? History?

I like Gaelic - always have. I'm not really sure why. But like, how beautiful does it sound?


To be honest, I'd be happy being proficient in any other language. I'm monolingual as it stands!

I thought FB3 would ask this, but nope... so I will. What is your patronus?

I actually did the test on Pottermore the other day. My patronus is a bloodhound. According to Wikipedia (because I had no knowledge about bloodhounds haha), they are gentle, dedicated, wilful, affectionate and even-tempered.

How did you find the time to homework, study notes, assignments, practice papers ect. Im finding it hard to complete all these "to-do's" in one afternoon. How did you manage your workload?

Hey, welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

Consistency is the answer, I think. There's certainly no need to complete them all in one afternoon. If it ever gets to the stage where you feel as though you do need to do it all in one afternoon, it might be time to step back a little.

Practice papers - honestly not hugely needed at the moment IMO. You can leave these until a little later in the year.

Otherwise, I tried to get as much done at school as possible. Fewer distractions, greater productivity and so on. This might not be the case for you, but it certainly was for me, so I tried to emphasise that strength (or, I guess, eliminate the weakness of lower productivity at home).

But yeah, I think the main point here is less how to get everything done in one afternoon, and more the point that you don't need to. Just do what you can on any given day, and let the rest carry over to tomorrow. If you work consistently, you'll get it all done - and this is a much better way of going about it IMO than leaving everything to any given afternoon.

My biggest problem is I feel guilty whenever I'm not doing work. Sometimes I procrastinate and then I "reprimand" myself by limiting myself in my "free time". I honestly don't remember the last time I fully watched a movie. I was wondering if you ever felt like this during your HSC? If so how did you deal with it? Thanks!  :)

I feel you! I had (have, to a smaller degree) this issue also. This was really strong for me, particularly through Year 12. I think for students who want to do well, it would be pretty common. Like, there's a lot of rhetoric around. "Year 12 will be the hardest year of your life" and the like. The natural reaction to that is probably to beat yourself up a little when you "catch" yourself not studying 100% of the time.

But then, if you think about it, not studying 100% of the time is actually what you need. And probably what it takes is just a bit of a mentality shift. To do well, you need time to rest - so not giving yourself that time will probably be pretty counter-productive.

It's sort of like going to the gym. If you want to get, like, super buff (not something I'm very familiar with haha), you can't go to the gym 24/7. It'd be silly to do so, because at some point or another, you'll pull a muscle. You'll get hurt because you'll overwork yourself. Same thing with Year 12, except HSC/VCE is the gym, and studying is the equivalent of working out. If you try to do it all the time, and don't give yourself sufficient time to rest/recuperate, it'll be counter-productive in the end. You won't get as buff as you would have if you gave yourself permission to chill out here and there.

It's definitely hard, and I struggled with similar things through school and uni a lot. It's worth working on, though, because studying all the time just isn't sustainable.
Mmmmm yes and no. Yes because you did it and we got to see that gorgeous face of yours, but also no because it was too short

You might be lucky at a later date then. ;)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: EragusTrenzalore on April 04, 2018, 04:29:17 pm
Hi Joseph41.

What strategies did you use to manage your time and balance your life during Uni between your academic studies, extracurriculars and other activities (e.g. family or a job)? Were you a person who had everything under control and procrastinated very little?

Thanks,

EragusTrenzalore
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 04, 2018, 04:48:56 pm
Hi Joseph41.

What strategies did you use to manage your time and balance your life during Uni between your academic studies, extracurriculars and other activities (e.g. family or a job)? Were you a person who had everything under control and procrastinated very little?

Thanks,

EragusTrenzalore

Hey EragusTrenzalore. :)

What strategies did you use to manage your time and balance your life during Uni between your academic studies, extracurriculars and other activities (e.g. family or a job)?

Good question. I'm a big fan of to-do lists, which I use for both academic and non-academic purposes. I much prefer to-do lists to, say, study timetables, which I spoke about in this post. I'll copy and paste the relevant parts for convenience:

"I've never liked study timetables - in fact, I dislike them with a passion! Haha. In Year 11 or Year 12 or something, my school tried to get everybody organised and suggested using study timetables. I took one look at it, tried to block in some study periods, and thought, "this literally makes no sense". Like, how could I forecast several days into the future when I should be studying for certain subjects, or when I should be resting? It just felt really limiting to me, and whilst I like structure in my life, that much structure was just cramping my style.

I don't really get them, either, because like, what happens if you have English revision scheduled for 7-8 on a Tuesday, and then don't do it? Either you beat yourself up about it, or the timetable is seemingly fruitless - and neither of those options is good.

What I use religiously is to-do lists. I used them through high school, I used them very much at uni, and I use them very much at work. To me, they're like study timetables insofar as you document everything you need to do, but they have greater efficacy for a number of reasons:

* You're not blocked into doing things at certain times. For example, if you have an English exam coming up, but have scheduled in Maths revision, what do you do? Ignore your exam? Ignore your timetable? Something has to give. With to-do lists, on the other hand, you can simply get through the tasks one-by-one in an order you deem most appropriate at the time.

* With to-do lists, you can carry over tasks. Despite using a to-do list basically every day, I don't think I've ever finished one; that is, I've never got through every single task I had on my list for that day. But that's fine, because when I don't complete something on my list, it goes straight to the top of tomorrow's. If I don't get through it again, it becomes bold on the next day's. And then a bigger font. And then highlighted. It gets to the point that that task looks so obnoxiously horrible on the page that it's satisfaction in itself to simply get it off the list. And the only way to do that is to finish the task.

* To me, the satisfaction of physically crossing things off is satisfying, and provides reinforcement.

One might argue that to get around all of my gripes with study timetables, you should just block in "study" - and nothing subject-specific. But to me, this is just as silly - what happens if you're really, really tired during one of those periods? What if you feel like going for a walk instead? Trying to force yourself into studying at times that don't suit you is just silly IMO, and will probably be counter-productive if anything.

Don't get me wrong: there'll probably be times where you kinda need to study but don't feel like it, and you just have to take it. Hard work and the like means that you'll probably sometimes study when you don't feel like it. But if you're in a really, really bad mood, or you just need to rest, trying to study probably won't do much for you, and that's where my issue with study timetables comes in: they're inflexible. And if they are flexible, is it really a timetable?

I actually wrote about organisation and using to-do lists in this article, which might interest you. :)"

I used to-do lists through Year 12, and then all the way through uni. I still use them at work - I just find them really, really useful to keep everything in check.

But that aside, some strategies (some along a similar line):

* I've on-and-off used a diary (a physical diary). The hardest bit is getting used to it and getting in the groove. I don't use one at the moment, but I should - it's just that I didn't start at the beginning of the year, and now I'm lazy. My girlfriend even bought me one, so I really need to get into it! I've found that the physical act of penning in events and things to do and the like, sort of cements dates into my head - and I know what has to be done, when. I'm really bad with dates (remembering when I have things on, when things are due etc.), so a diligently kept diary tends to help me a lot.

* Routine. Having times blocked in where I regularly complete certain activities helps me keep on top of them. You might argue that this is going down the line of a study timetable, but I think it's a bit different. What I mean is stuff like getting up at the same time of day, having breakfast at the same time, exercising or whatever at a consistent time. If you do things regularly enough in the same time slot, it just becomes habit. So for me, during semester at uni I'd establish certain study times. These might have been before lectures, or after them. It didn't really matter when, as such - it just mattered that they were consistent. It didn't really feel like I was making an effort to study in those situations - it was just what I did.

* Knowing myself and my strengths. I think one of my biggest strengths is knowing how much would be too much - I'm always cognisant of not biting off more than I could chew. I know a lot of other people who take on way too much, and then struggle and can't keep on top of everything. I prioritised the most important things to me, and then filled up my time with whatever else could fit - but nothing more. Sort of like filling a jar: you fill it with rocks before you fill it with sand; if you fill your time with all of the unimportant stuff, you won't be able to fit in uni, work, friends, family etc. And that's when issues start to form.

* And along a similar line, making time for the most important things. I get anxious pretty easily, so if I feel like I'm neglecting an important part of my life, the best thing for me is simply to give it some love and attention. Taking time out of my schedule to do this is actually a good thing in the long run, because I become more productive in whatever I'm focusing on at the time.

Were you a person who had everything under control and procrastinated very little?

* Straight up, I definitely do not have everything under control - soooooo far from it hahaha. I think anybody close to me would confirm that, including several people on these forums. I honestly don't think anybody has everything under control, and those who seem as though they do are just better actors than the rest of us.

* I procrastinate, don't get me wrong. It's not as though getting good marks at uni requires like, superhuman study abilities haha. But what I did try to focus on was making the times I studied really productive. I don't know if I studied more than other people, but I do feel as though I got stuff done when I did. That's an important factor, and a big part of that for me was reducing distractions (phone, friends etc.). I always studied alone because I just couldn't do it as productively with other people. In that sense, I played to my strengths. The good thing here is that when you're not studying, you genuinely feel as though you can enjoy it. It's a bit of a win/win, really - in essence, you study hard, you play hard. The alternative is you sort of study for a really long time and, therefore, never really have proper time off. Super tiring!

* I'll also note that even though I'm definitely not on top of everything in my life (like I said above, far, far from it), I do think I was pretty diligent when it came to uni stuff. I set up very clear assessment timetables/timelines, and this helped me immensely.

Thanks for your questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: EragusTrenzalore on April 04, 2018, 09:09:58 pm
Thanks for the awesome response. I've also had the same experience with timetables; despite trying to set one up in VCE, I never ended up following it and it turned into more of a to do list. How do you determine how many tasks you can fit in a day and do you get better at this over time?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: TheHeckle on April 04, 2018, 09:29:44 pm
Got 3 questions that have been on my mind lately and wanted your opinion them

1. How do you 'sell yourself' in a job resume and make it look appealing?
2. What is your opinion on part-time jobs during year 12 and how does it differ from uni?
3. Regarding school, do you recommend studying ahead (if so by how much)?
-Thanks in advance
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 05, 2018, 10:01:32 am
Thanks for the awesome response. I've also had the same experience with timetables; despite trying to set one up in VCE, I never ended up following it and it turned into more of a to do list. How do you determine how many tasks you can fit in a day and do you get better at this over time?

Hey, no worries. :)

I don't think I've ever completed every single task on my to-do list. I'm not really sure how other people use them, but I guess I might differ to others in this way. Basically, every day I list all of the things I need to complete that I feasibly could do on that day, but differentiate the most important ones somehow. For example, today I have heaps of tasks listed, but the most important ones highlighted in pink.

In this way, I don't really determine how many tasks I can fit into a day - I just do what I can at any given time.

Got 3 questions that have been on my mind lately and wanted your opinion them

1. How do you 'sell yourself' in a job resume and make it look appealing?
2. What is your opinion on part-time jobs during year 12 and how does it differ from uni?
3. Regarding school, do you recommend studying ahead (if so by how much)?
-Thanks in advance

Hey TheHeckle,

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

1. How do you 'sell yourself' in a job resume and make it look appealing?

I guess you just need to play to your strengths. What's the job for? Tailor your CV accordingly. To do this, you might need to do a little bit of research about the relevant company or organisation. What sort of culture do they have? What exactly are they looking for in the position?

Note: I've really only ever applied for a few jobs, so take this with a grain of salt.

2. What is your opinion on part-time jobs during year 12 and how does it differ from uni?

My opinion doesn't change much based on whether you're in Year 12 or uni. I think working part-time is a really good thing. You might need to cut down hours or take a break through peak times, which is understandable (a flexible workplace is great in this regard), but the benefits of working are numerous. If nothing else, it breaks up the study a bit - plus $$$!

Depending on what you want to do, it can also be really beneficial for future employment. Like, say you don't work through high school at all, and then get a really high ATAR. I'd imagine a lot of places would prefer you have a bit of prior experience before employing, and that's where having some work under your belt is a really great thing.

3. Regarding school, do you recommend studying ahead (if so by how much)?

Hmm, good question. I'll answer this in two parts:

General thoughts on studying ahead:
The number one thing here is that studying ahead doesn't necessitate more work - you're just sort of shifting the goal posts a little to do stuff before everybody else. If you work best independently, and learn really well from reading and doing independent activities, I think it's a pretty good bet. What it means is that your usual classes become revision sessions, and you can ask your teachers for clarification on things you weren't sure about in the relevant classes.

What I did:
Despite the above, I never really did it. I was content enough to learn stuff in class, then work on it in my own time. I trusted my teachers enough (mostly) that I was comfortable in the fact we'd finish the course on time, and with enough time for exam revision.

I'm not really sure why I didn't study ahead but like, I guess it might have been just that I never had before. Through Years 7-11, do you study ahead? Nah - so I figured, "why bother now?"

I don't know, though. I definitely see the benefits of it, but I absolutely don't think it's necessary in order to do well.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: AHaiderS on April 07, 2018, 01:44:03 pm
Hi!

I had some questions regarding 1st year uni. I'm finding the transition between high school and uni quite tough. My first question is how did you manage to do all your assignments, practice, tute Qs, reading and summaries and still have time to go out with your mates or just generally enjoy yourself. I find myself in one room for days upon days, just studying for uni (and I'm only in my first semester!) :( :( :(

Secondly, how do you deal with bad tutors? My tutors are so bad. They dont help us and just show us answers to the questions. I'm really struggling and have my Mid-Sems soon. Any other advice?

btw, what uni did you go to ?

Tysm
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 10, 2018, 02:37:27 pm
Hi!

I had some questions regarding 1st year uni. I'm finding the transition between high school and uni quite tough. My first question is how did you manage to do all your assignments, practice, tute Qs, reading and summaries and still have time to go out with your mates or just generally enjoy yourself. I find myself in one room for days upon days, just studying for uni (and I'm only in my first semester!) :( :( :(

Secondly, how do you deal with bad tutors? My tutors are so bad. They dont help us and just show us answers to the questions. I'm really struggling and have my Mid-Sems soon. Any other advice?

btw, what uni did you go to ?

Tysm

Hey AHaiderS!

Welcome to ATAR Notes. :) Very many apologies for the late response - I have no idea how, but I missed this one until now!

I'm finding the transition between high school and uni quite tough.
Feels - so did I. I'm sorry to hear that, though. No need to go into too much detail if you don't want to, but what are you finding tough about it? From your subsequent questions, is it trying to find the balance between work and other stuff? What are you studying?

My first question is how did you manage to do all your assignments, practice, tute Qs, reading and summaries and still have time to go out with your mates or just generally enjoy yourself. I find myself in one room for days upon days, just studying for uni (and I'm only in my first semester!) :( :( :(
A good question, and one I had to think about for a few minutes. I think what benefitted me is a "work now, play later" sort of approach. I'd try to get a start on things early so that I could chill/go out or whatever later on, and with no guilt. Like, consider these two scnearios. In both situations, you've just been given an assignment due in two weeks from now.

Scenario 1: For the first week, you decide to rest, and chill. Maybe you watch some Netflix. Maybe you go clubbing. Maybe you have some nice picnics on the beach. They're all fantastic things to do, and I'm the first to say that taking breaks is absolutely necessary to doing well long-term. BUT, you don't genuinely, 100% enjoy any of those activities. Why? Because you know you have that assignment due soon - and you haven't even started it. Whilst you get some enjoyment out of Netflix and clubbing and the beach, there's that nagging voice in the back of your head at all times, saying "uni, uni, uni". And you feel a bit guilty or stressed or whatever else as a result. So the first week passes, and you're already a bit stressed about uni despite having done absolutely nothing on your assignment. When you sit down to get moving on it, you realise that now you only have one week until it's due, so you've practically just doubled the difficulty of the task for yourself. As a result, you're even more stressed. As the deadline looms closer and closer, you start to panic a bit, lose sleep, don't eat as well - all that nasty sort of stuff. You might realise you realistically need more than the week you've given yourself to complete the task to a high standard. You manage to submit the assignment on time, but you haven't edited it properly, and don't do as well as you could have as a result. Basically what's happened is:

* You've spent time with your friends/"relaxing" etc., but it wasn't actually that relaxing because you were sort of thinking about uni the whole time.
* You've given yourself less potential time on your assignments, which is practically throwing away marks.
* You've probably tired yourself out as a result of stress and subsequent lack of sleep etc.
* You've completed the work, but not to as high a standard as you could have.

Really, it seems like a lose/lose situation.

Scenario 2: Comparatively, let's say you decide to get cracking on the assignment straight away. You work consistently for the first few days, just chipping away at what you know you need to get done within the next two weeks. Ideally, you'll finish the assignment after like a week, and subsequently have a full week to chill guilt free. But let's say it takes you longer than expected, and you finish the assignment in 10 days. My first point here is that this is okay, because starting early gave yourself the required buffer period. If you cut it fine and then realise you don't have enough time, well, that sucks! But if you start early and make that same realisation, you have enough flexibility to do something about it. So you get the assignment done in 10 days. I'd wager the assignment is to a much higher standard than in Scenario 1, because you've given yourself more time to read over it etc., and because you're not working on it stressed and sleep-deprived. Following that, you have four days to genuinely relax and recuperate. Yeah, you have fewer days "relaxing" than you did in Scenario 1, but the quality is higher - you don't have that nagging voice in the back of your head, and that makes a big difference. If we were to award arbitrary points to "total relaxation" in both scenarios, Scenario 2 would surely be higher. So:

* You've spent some great quality time relaxing/recuperating.
* You've given yourself a buffer period, allowing for revisions to your assignment without much stress.
* You've slept better than in Scenario 1, as there's no need to pull all-nighters etc.
* You've completed the work to a higher standard than in Scenario 1.

This time, it really seems like a win/win situation.

That's all dramatised a bit, but honestly I don't think it's too far off the mark - particularly when you consider that that's just one assignment, when in reality you'd probably have several more at any given time. I think a lot of people at uni adopt the first approach, whether consciously or otherwise. I was very much a Scenario 2 sort of person (I think natural anxiety rendered me really keen to get stuff done as soon as possible; I don't like having things having over my head), and it paid off for me. So to answer your question, this approach is probably how I managed to find that balance.

(And keep in mind that what I did at uni was certainly not perfect. It's a constant battle to find that balance - it's hard - but this is what has worked for me to this point.)

Secondly, how do you deal with bad tutors? My tutors are so bad. They dont help us and just show us answers to the questions. I'm really struggling and have my Mid-Sems soon. Any other advice?
Number one thing to remember: the tutors will be temporary. As with I assume anybody at uni, I really loved some of my tutors, and didn't love others so much - that's natural. I'm not sure what you study or if this would be appropriate in your specific situation, but have you tried asking them for additional assistance, or raising your concerns (respectfully)? I don't think this is particularly helpful advice, but it's probably the first step as I see it.

If you've tried that, I'm not sure how much you can do, really. But in saying that, uni's a really great time to learn skills to deal with this sort of situation, namely independence and resilience. What could you do yourself (that is, not depending on the tutor) to give yourself the best possible chance of learning the content? Obviously it's not an ideal outcome, but it's not an uncommon one.

btw, what uni did you go to ?
Monash University in Melbourne. :)

Sorry again for the late response. Good luck for your mid-sems! ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: PhoenixxFire on April 16, 2018, 10:28:29 pm
When are you getting new shoes?
also how long have you had those ones for  ??? ...and why do you still have them?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 17, 2018, 09:23:54 am
When are you getting new shoes?
also how long have you had those ones for  ??? ...and why do you still have them?

Hmm, I don't really plan to get new ones overly soon. I've had these current ones probably for about 12 months. It only becomes an issue when it rains heavily.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Cranium002 on April 17, 2018, 10:36:51 pm
Hey Joseph,

Good job. but how do you manage your subjects so effectively daily and to still be able to achieve the top marks?

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 18, 2018, 09:22:42 am
Hey Joseph,

Good job. but how do you manage your subjects so effectively daily and to still be able to achieve the top marks?



Hey Cranium!

For me, it probably comes down to two things: organisation and discipline. I spoke a bit about this in this post here, but feel free to ask any follow-up questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Bubbly_bluey on April 18, 2018, 09:50:29 pm
Hi Joseph, congratz on an amazing result!
I'm currently a first year and struggling really bad at keeping up with lecture notes. I find that I'm a slow leaner and that in a way is pulling me behind because one lecture and easily cover 2-3 chapters of a textbook in 50 minutes. Then i feel like I'm forced to speed up my studying but when I review back the concepts in a few days I have already forgotten whats its about. I can't seem to find myself reading ahead of lectures because I'm trying to write catch up notes for the previous one.
What are some tips to help combat this problem?
Thank you :D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: kauac on April 18, 2018, 10:36:37 pm
How do you maintain motivation for running?
On a similar note, do you vary your routes often?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 19, 2018, 12:48:31 pm
Hi Joseph, congratz on an amazing result!
I'm currently a first year and struggling really bad at keeping up with lecture notes. I find that I'm a slow leaner and that in a way is pulling me behind because one lecture and easily cover 2-3 chapters of a textbook in 50 minutes. Then i feel like I'm forced to speed up my studying but when I review back the concepts in a few days I have already forgotten whats its about. I can't seem to find myself reading ahead of lectures because I'm trying to write catch up notes for the previous one.
What are some tips to help combat this problem?
Thank you :D

Hey Bubbly_bluey,

Thanks for that!

What are you studying at the moment? I know that some degrees have a more considerable workload (in terms of number of lectures per week) than I had in Arts.

Out of interest, do you go to the lectures in person, or listen to them online? If you're really struggling with the pace of the lecture, maybe it's a good idea to at least go through the lecture again after the fact at a more practical pace. I'm not sure if you do this already (couldn't quite tell from your post), but that seems like a logical progression to me. Lectures can be really fast - particularly if you're not that confident with the content - so I don't think you'll be alone, here.

Otherwise, maybe you could mix up the way you're taking lecture notes. If you're trying to get everything from the screen into your notebook, for example, that might not be the most effective way of doing it. Do you find yourself a little stressed/strapped for time trying to get everything on the page before the lecturer moves onto the next slide?

Happy to discuss more with a little more context! ;D

How do you maintain motivation for running?
On a similar note, do you vary your routes often?

G'day, kauac. :)

Well, my accountability thread is really good for me. I'd definitely recommend that accountability board if you want to get anything done. On a basic level, I'm scared of public shaming hahaha. But, more intrinsically, I just want to be healthy. I used to be fit, then I had several years of doing basically nothing, and I don't want to let that continue.

Route - I basically just have the same route every time! I run from my house to a creek sort of area, where there's a circuit of sorts that would probably be like ~700 metres or something. And I just run around that as many times as I feel necessary. You can see the repetition when we look at elevation over the course of the run haha:

(https://i.imgur.com/YRUNN0W.png)

I know a lot of people would find this boring, but I like being able to tick off the run lap by lap. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Bubbly_bluey on April 19, 2018, 11:30:24 pm
Hey Bubbly_bluey,

Thanks for that!
I'm currently doing pharmacy and managment. I have so far attended all my lectures and write down little notes on slides that I have printed out and then when I go home I listen to the recordings again. But I find the issue is that listening to a typical 1 hour recording will take me 2-3 hours to get through it because I'm constantly pausing to jot things down- trying to understand it-looking on youtube to try make sense of certain concepts- or textbooks. So its definitely time consuming especially for one subject. I've started transitioning to typed notes just to save a bit more time but not really.
And so I feel like I'm forced to rote learn a lot of things- but this isn't good because 1) i don't really understand the concept and 2) by not understanding it properly I feel like I'm more likely to forget it- which has been happening.

" Do you find yourself a little stressed/strapped for time trying to get everything on the page before the lecturer moves onto the next slide?"- Not so much because I mostly sit in class trying to absorbed what is being said and maybe write little notes down because if I missed something, I know I can look back at the recordings. I think I find it difficult to listen at the pace the lecturer is going - so I don't have enough time to write what they have said, and then I have forgotten what they have said, and the lecturer proceeds to move on to the next concept and then it begins again. Basically I can't vigorously write down notes whilst listening to the lecturer speak... if that makes sense? - maybe its my lack of concentration?

So I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.
Thank you for your help :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 23, 2018, 03:35:14 pm
I'm currently doing pharmacy and managment. I have so far attended all my lectures and write down little notes on slides that I have printed out and then when I go home I listen to the recordings again. But I find the issue is that listening to a typical 1 hour recording will take me 2-3 hours to get through it because I'm constantly pausing to jot things down- trying to understand it-looking on youtube to try make sense of certain concepts- or textbooks. So its definitely time consuming especially for one subject. I've started transitioning to typed notes just to save a bit more time but not really.
And so I feel like I'm forced to rote learn a lot of things- but this isn't good because 1) i don't really understand the concept and 2) by not understanding it properly I feel like I'm more likely to forget it- which has been happening.

" Do you find yourself a little stressed/strapped for time trying to get everything on the page before the lecturer moves onto the next slide?"- Not so much because I mostly sit in class trying to absorbed what is being said and maybe write little notes down because if I missed something, I know I can look back at the recordings. I think I find it difficult to listen at the pace the lecturer is going - so I don't have enough time to write what they have said, and then I have forgotten what they have said, and the lecturer proceeds to move on to the next concept and then it begins again. Basically I can't vigorously write down notes whilst listening to the lecturer speak... if that makes sense? - maybe its my lack of concentration?

So I'm not sure what I am doing wrong.
Thank you for your help :)


Hey again. :)

Pace of the lectures aside, are you enjoying the content in Pharmacy/Management so far? Sounds pretty interesting.

To be honest, that sounds like a pretty solid lecture strategy to me. What seems less sustainable is the bit where you say the one hour lecture turns into 2-3 hours. Why is it, do you think, that you need to spend that additional time clarifying things etc.? Is there assumed knowledge you've missed out on through high school for some reason? Definitely agree with you that rote learning isn't ideal.

I'm assuming these are first-year units you're taking?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: pimpmyride on April 24, 2018, 03:57:09 pm
hi joseph (joe?) i also received a 99+ atar (99.10 to be specific, so not as high as you!) but in 2017.  i just started a bachelor of laws/arts monash this year-i'll be dropping it at the end of this semester....probably gonna continue being a checkout chick selling avocados to the bourgeoisie for the rest of my life
my question is slightly existential: after you worked so hard and achieved such success, was it worth it in the end? is there anything you would do differently if you had your time in school/uni again?
I know for me when I received my score for VCE I felt empty and unsatisfied- it was really a bit of a letdown to a traumatic year. i'd envisioned that if i got a score of 90+ i would be ecstatic or cry and people would perceive me as less of a dropkick and more of a success story...but that didn't happen.
I've been thinking that maybe if didn't get a good result and hadn't have worked so hard then maybe I would be in a better situation (socially, physically etc.)
thx ur incred
btw i feel like us 99+ vce grads have some sort of unsaid bond- like a mutual understanding of how hard it is to be smart. thoughts?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on April 24, 2018, 04:13:28 pm
hi joseph (joe?)

Hey pimpmyride!

Just to confuse you, my actual name is Nick haha. :P

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i also received a 99+ atar (99.10 to be specific, so not as high as you!) but in 2017.

Congrats on your scores! What subjects did you study? :)

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i just started a bachelor of laws/arts monash this year-i'll be dropping it at the end of this semester....probably gonna continue being a checkout chick selling avocados to the bourgeoisie for the rest of my life

Why are you dropping Laws/Arts, out of interest?

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my question is slightly existential: after you worked so hard and achieved such success, was it worth it in the end? is there anything you would do differently if you had your time in school/uni again?

Interesting questions.

Was it worth it? I think so, insofar as I learnt a lot about myself in the process. It led to some struggles and some good things, but overall, I guess it was a big learning experience for me. I think I developed a lot in the last couple of years of high school in particular, and have continued to develop (with varied success) since that time.

It's easy for me to say that ATARs don't mean anything and whatever, but realistically, an objectively high ATAR has presented a lot of opportunities for me. My results got me a full scholarship to uni, got me a job (and then another couple of jobs) and made tutoring marketing easier. In that sense, the work paid off - at least financially.

But is there anything I'd do differently? Yeah, absolutely. 100%. I'd focus less on numbers, despite the above. I got really caught up playing the "numbers town", and it got me down a bit in the end. I wasn't as ambitious as I should have been in my subject selection. The subjects I did:

* Business Management (Year 11)
* English Language
* Health & Human Development
* Visual Communication & Design
* Psychology
* Further Maths

But in hindsight, there are some subjects I really wish I did. Definitely not for the scaling or the "prestige" or whatever - but for the knowledge. If I had my time again, I would have had a set-up something like:

* Further Maths (Year 10)
* Health & Human Development (Year 11)
* Biology (Year 11)
* Psychology
* Visual Communication & Design
* English Language
* Maths Methods

So that's cutting BusMan entirely, doing seven subjects overall, and picking up Bio and Methods. Or something like that.

More generally, I struggled with the pressure and stuff I put on myself a bit, so that's something else I'd change for sure if I could. I'd get more involved with extracurricular stuff (at uni specifically). I'd take more opportunities when I could (high school specifically).

tl;dr: I think "yes" is the short answer to both of your questions.

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I know for me when I received my score for VCE I felt empty and unsatisfied- it was really a bit of a letdown to a traumatic year. i'd envisioned that if i got a score of 90+ i would be ecstatic or cry and people would perceive me as less of a dropkick and more of a success story...but that didn't happen.

I'm really sorry to hear that.

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I've been thinking that maybe if didn't get a good result and hadn't have worked so hard then maybe I would be in a better situation (socially, physically etc.)

Interesting thoughts. Do you feel as though you sacrificed a lot to get the scores you did?

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thx ur incred

No worries! :)

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btw i feel like us 99+ vce grads have some sort of unsaid bond- like a mutual understanding of how hard it is to be smart. thoughts?

I'm not sure I identify with the phrasing. Like, I honestly don't look at somebody who received a 99+ ATAR and think, "wow - they must be smart!" Because I think there's a whole lot more to it than that - and some of the smartest people I know scored pretty naff ATARs.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: food4life on May 02, 2018, 10:41:19 am
Hi there, any idea what is the student demographics for the Monash Sociology degree programme? I will be enrolling into the programme from the 2nd year onwards and would like to know if you have any tips/advice with regards to the units i should take. Thanks a lot for the help :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 02, 2018, 10:45:32 am
Hi there, any idea what is the student demographics for the Monash Sociology degree programme? I will be enrolling into the programme from the 2nd year onwards and would like to know if you have any tips/advice with regards to the units i should take. Thanks a lot for the help :)

Hey food4life,

Thanks for your question (and welcome to ATAR Notes!). :D

I flirted with Sociology units a little bit, but actually never ended up taking one (although, looking at the list of units, I reckon some of my units would probably qualify under Sociology).

What units are you thinking at the moment? :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: abhi223 on May 02, 2018, 07:15:54 pm
Hey dude, so right now we are having a SAC for unit 3 methods which is broken up into 4 sections. I completely bombed my first section expecting a 10/30 for that section but for the rest of the sections i m very confident that i only lost 1 mark maximum on each of the last 3. I dont know why but my brain just stopped working for the 1st section causing me to make such a rookie 'over thinking' mistake. the whole thing is out of 77 marks btw. My question is if i get above 90% on the end of year exams and stay top 5 out of 30 in my cohort (top 10 are strong), what is approximately the highest SS still possible? :( thank you
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: hdxx on May 02, 2018, 08:25:04 pm
When did you start studying for exams? If you did it as you were going when would you fit this into your week while studying for upcoming sacs
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 03, 2018, 01:11:30 pm
Hey dude, so right now we are having a SAC for unit 3 methods which is broken up into 4 sections. I completely bombed my first section expecting a 10/30 for that section but for the rest of the sections i m very confident that i only lost 1 mark maximum on each of the last 3. I dont know why but my brain just stopped working for the 1st section causing me to make such a rookie 'over thinking' mistake. the whole thing is out of 77 marks btw. My question is if i get above 90% on the end of year exams and stay top 5 out of 30 in my cohort (top 10 are strong), what is approximately the highest SS still possible? :( thank you

Hey abhi223! :)

A four-part SAC is pretty hectic - I'm not sure I've ever heard of that before!

A few points:

* Nice work on the last three parts of the SAC!
* Raw marks don't really mean much - that 10/30 might be very impactful, or not impactful or all. I'd try not to worry about it if I were you.
* What's more important is your ranking, as you've alluded to later in your post.

* I'm not a fan of predicting study scores, but nothing in this post is going to rule you out of a very high study score still. One part of one SAC is realistically a very small part of your study score - and that's before SAC moderation etc. If my memory is correct, SACs are only worth like 1/3 of your total study score, too - so the exams are collectively pretty important.

I haven't given a study score estimation for a few reasons. Firstly, I'm not good at it. Secondly, it's only ever going to be an estimate, anyway. And thirdly, I don't think there's really a limit to what you can score based on the information presented.

My main advice here is to take confidence from the fact that you smashed the last three parts of the SAC. You're clearly capable, and if you take that "form" (if you will) into your remaining SACs and exams, you'll achieve great things. 👌

When did you start studying for exams? If you did it as you were going when would you fit this into your week while studying for upcoming sacs

Hey hdxx. :)

The way I like to look at it, the moment I started Year 12 content! Whether you realise it or not, you're actually revising for end-of-year exams from the very start of the year.

But on a more conscious level, I honestly can't remember exactly. I reckon I started practice exams (open book, not time-bound) in the July holidays, but it was realistically more like August-September.

To answer your second question, I focused mostly on SACs. During the year (until those times above), most of my revision of other stuff I did at school, I reckon. So like, before school, during class - that sort of thing. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: anhb on May 13, 2018, 09:00:25 pm
I do a science degree with a finance breadth, I thought it would be interesting but didn't enjoy it and am doing quite bad. If at the end of exams I get an overall P or H3 (if I am lucky) how would that reflect jobs? Seeing a P on my results wouldn't be great especially if I'm planning to do further medical studies or something along those lines would it?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 14, 2018, 09:29:14 am
I do a science degree with a finance breadth, I thought it would be interesting but didn't enjoy it and am doing quite bad. If at the end of exams I get an overall P or H3 (if I am lucky) how would that reflect jobs? Seeing a P on my results wouldn't be great especially if I'm planning to do further medical studies or something along those lines would it?

I mean, it's all relative (and I'm not an expert on this).

What type of jobs? Would you be applying after this semester, or after your degree? :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: emsulliv on May 15, 2018, 10:35:23 pm
Hi!

This is my first year taking Literature and am uncertain about the best way to study!!
Should I be memorising themes/conventions/ideas or writing practice essays or what?!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 08:37:31 am
Hi!

This is my first year taking Literature and am uncertain about the best way to study!!
Should I be memorising themes/conventions/ideas or writing practice essays or what?!

Hey, thanks for your question! :)

I'm afraid I didn't study Lit myself, so I'm not really in a great position to comment. I'm sure somebody else can jump in here - but if not, the Literature board will be your best place to ask.

Good luck! :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: MissSmiley on May 16, 2018, 04:42:17 pm
Hey Nick!

Firstly, I love this thread!! I really appreciate the concept behind it in that you're helping stressed Year 12s!!  :D

Could I please ask you about what you did when you had oceans of work coming to you, SACs one after the other from every subject and tonnes of memorising associated with all of this?
I use to-do lists, but the things just keep adding and adding and...
The pressure's just firing at me right now!
(I know I'm no one special or anything, every Year 12 has the same thing, but you know, just asking for some expert opinion!  ;)

Also, what's happening is that for content subjects, our teacher's powerpoints are already so comprehensive (but the teachers always say they're summaries), so do you think it will be sufficient to use just these powerpoints or literally go through the textbook page by page and study?
And so when I study my notes, it just gets extremely tiring and long to study the powerpoints + textbook. What do you suggest (with my question above)
Obviously for chapter review questions and things like that you need to look into the textbook, but about for memorising content?

Thanks for being so thoughtful with this question thread Nick!
Definitely in my bookmarked sites  ;)

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 05:19:26 pm
Hey Nick!

Firstly, I love this thread!! I really appreciate the concept behind it in that you're helping stressed Year 12s!!  :D

Could I please ask you about what you did when you had oceans of work coming to you, SACs one after the other from every subject and tonnes of memorising associated with all of this?
I use to-do lists, but the things just keep adding and adding and...
The pressure's just firing at me right now!
(I know I'm no one special or anything, every Year 12 has the same thing, but you know, just asking for some expert opinion!  ;)

Also, what's happening is that for content subjects, our teacher's powerpoints are already so comprehensive (but the teachers always say they're summaries), so do you think it will be sufficient to use just these powerpoints or literally go through the textbook page by page and study?
And so when I study my notes, it just gets extremely tiring and long to study the powerpoints + textbook. What do you suggest (with my question above)
Obviously for chapter review questions and things like that you need to look into the textbook, but about for memorising content?

Thanks for being so thoughtful with this question thread Nick!
Definitely in my bookmarked sites  ;)



Hey MissSmiley,

Thanks for your kind words. :)

Could I please ask you about what you did when you had oceans of work coming to you, SACs one after the other from every subject and tonnes of memorising associated with all of this?

It's tough, innit? I think to-do lists (which you already use) is a pretty great start. But if at all possible, I tried to get on top of stuff early. So like, I basically adopted a "work now, play later" type of attitude.

Easier said than done, and when you have SACs coming at you from everywhere, it might just never be pleasant, no matter what you do. The thing to remember I guess is that balance is important. The natural thing to think is probably more SACs = more study, but I'm not convinced that's necessarily always the case (would have to think more about this tbh). What I'm trying to get at (not well) is that even if you feel like you're getting absolutely smashed, you still need to take time for yourself.

If you don't, it'll be counter-productive later on. Are you sleeping well?

(I know I'm no one special or anything, every Year 12 has the same thing, but you know, just asking for some expert opinion!  ;)

Honestly, no better expert than you right now! It's pretty easy for me to sit back a few years out of the system and be like, "do this, do that - this is what worked for me," but honestly, you're the one going through it right now. I'd trust your own instinct. :)

Also, what's happening is that for content subjects, our teacher's powerpoints are already so comprehensive (but the teachers always say they're summaries), so do you think it will be sufficient to use just these powerpoints or literally go through the textbook page by page and study?

I'm not 100% I follow the question. Are you asking if you should bother using the textbook at all, given the PowerPoint slides are so comprehensive as is?

If so, I think it's still probably worthwhile. You don't need to go through the textbook literally page by page, but I also don't think it's great to rely so heavily on one particular resource (in this case, your teacher's PowerPoint slides). They might be very good and comprehensive, but other resources will explain things in different ways, provide a different point of view etc. A more holistic approach, I think, will put you in a better position than just trying to learn the slides.

And so when I study my notes, it just gets extremely tiring and long to study the powerpoints + textbook. What do you suggest (with my question above)

If it's all getting a bit mundane, it seems like a perfect time to mix up your study a bit. Summaries and the like are great (and something I advocate pretty strongly), but they're not the only way to study.

Try to explain something verbally to a friend, dot point what you know, literally draw pictures representing what you're learning. Record yourself explaining information as though you're teaching it yourself. Stuff like this can really do wonders for consolidating knowledge, and also for keeping things fresh.



Honestly not really sure if I answered those questions very well, so please feel free to ask follow-ups! ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: MissSmiley on May 16, 2018, 05:35:46 pm
Honestly not really sure if I answered those questions very well, so please feel free to ask follow-ups! ;D
Yeah, you did answer my questions :)
And they are pretty common questions that have a common answer I guess,
like prioritising important and upcoming things first, like you said, changing your study methods, etc

But did you do a bit of every subject every day? So you wouldn't fall behind on particular things?
I've tried doing this, but when I do another subject that I know for which I don't have a SAC too soon (like a week ahead), I keep feeling bad that I'm not doing stuff for my upcoming SAC.
I know I shouldn't feel this way, coz it's study after all, but yeah, I guess I should just prioritise and memorise/understand each subject's content very quickly so I get to catch up on my other subjects.

Yes, I do agree that there's a risk in just following the ppts. So I'll continue to do the tiring thing now! Looking at my textbook + ppts!  ;D
(all good!)

Sorry this is just a stream of consciousness coming out, but once again, I think you've answered everything! :)

Thanks so much!  ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 16, 2018, 05:40:22 pm
Yeah, you did answer my questions :)
And they are pretty common questions that have a common answer I guess,
like prioritising important and upcoming things first, like you said, changing your study methods, etc

But did you do a bit of every subject every day? So you wouldn't fall behind on particular things?
I've tried doing this, but when I do another subject that I know for which I don't have a SAC too soon (like a week ahead), I keep feeling bad that I'm not doing stuff for my upcoming SAC.
I know I shouldn't feel this way, coz it's study after all, but yeah, I guess I should just prioritise and memorise/understand each subject's content very quickly so I get to catch up on my other subjects.

Yes, I do agree that there's a risk in just following the ppts. So I'll continue to do the tiring thing now! Looking at my textbook + ppts!  ;D
(all good!)

Sorry this is just a stream of consciousness coming out, but once again, I think you've answered everything! :)

Thanks so much!  ;D


But did you do a bit of every subject every day? So you wouldn't fall behind on particular things?

Nah, definitely not. I felt I could only properly focus on a couple of subjects per day. Some subjects would suffer, but then I'd make up for it later on. Doing bits and pieces of all of my subjects every day wouldn't have worked for me, I don't think.

I've tried doing this, but when I do another subject that I know for which I don't have a SAC too soon (like a week ahead), I keep feeling bad that I'm not doing stuff for my upcoming SAC.

And that's the thing. I don't like study timetables for a similar reason - they unnecessarily lock you into doing certain things at certain times. I've just trust your instinct and study whatever subject you feel is most pertinent at the time.

I know I shouldn't feel this way, coz it's study after all, but yeah

There's no right way to feel! Your feelings are your feelings. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on August 20, 2018, 04:46:45 pm
Happy to field more questions on this one! :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: SChMurpel on August 20, 2018, 05:53:02 pm
My mainstream teacher says further maths is really hard and not a bludge subject. (Evidence cause she teaches VCE Further Maths)
Is this true??? (I have no intentions doing further xd)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Google123 on August 20, 2018, 06:23:02 pm
Thanks for this thread! That's an incredible Atar!  :o

It's August now and I have a million SACs before term ends (not a million but you know just really intense emotions coming out!  ;D), what I can I do to revise Unit 3 for exams?
Also, I feel like I've forgotten heaps and heaps of Unit 3 content for all my subjects! They're just so content heavy!!  :(
What can I do to catch up with exam revision and content so that I don't feel guilty while at the same time being really confident in my preparation for upcoming SACs?

Basically, what was your study routine in August?  ;D

Thank you! Congratulations! :)


Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on August 21, 2018, 10:27:37 am
My mainstream teacher says further maths is really hard and not a bludge subject. (Evidence cause she teaches VCE Further Maths)
Is this true??? (I have no intentions doing further xd)

Hey SChMurpel!

I don't think any subject is a "bludge" subject at VCE level, to be honest. There are countless examples of very proficient maths students not doing as well as they had hoped in Further as a result of taking it lightly. At the top end, just a few marks off in the exams can be very costly indeed.

I found the actual maths considerably easier than my experience with, say, Methods (which was only Units 1/2), but I'm not sure that makes it easy as a subject. And it's such a subjective thing, too. Like, if you're fantastic at maths, yeah, it's probably not going to be overly strenuous. But that same student might find, say, HHD very difficult, whilst another student again could see that as a bludge. It's very much a personal thing.

But in terms of the actual maths involved, I didn't find it much different to earlier levels of high school tbh. It's not really relevant, because the three major maths subjects are targeted at different audiences.

Thanks for this thread! That's an incredible Atar!  :o

It's August now and I have a million SACs before term ends (not a million but you know just really intense emotions coming out!  ;D), what I can I do to revise Unit 3 for exams?
Also, I feel like I've forgotten heaps and heaps of Unit 3 content for all my subjects! They're just so content heavy!!  :(
What can I do to catch up with exam revision and content so that I don't feel guilty while at the same time being really confident in my preparation for upcoming SACs?

Basically, what was your study routine in August?  ;D

Thank you! Congratulations! :)

Hey, no worries.

I think perception is important here. When I ask students at this time of year if they've started revising for exams, I usually get a "lol Joseph pls" sort of reaction. But in reality, you have. So has everybody. With a few exceptions, everything you've been studying this year (for SACs and so on) actually doubles up as exam revision.

But I understand your question. I did a bunch of content-heavy subjects, too, and at times it did feel as though there was just too much content to get through. My advice here would be to take things slowly. Like, revision isn't an all or nothing sort of thing. You can do literally five minutes of Unit 3 revision, and that's better than not doing any minutes at all. If you do five minutes each school day, that's nearly half an hour per week. Over time, small decisions like this really add up - it just requires a bit of discipline to keep doing it.

I'm also a big fan of using the study design really heavily. If you feel a bit overwhelmed and don't even really know where to start for your Unit 3 revision, jump onto the study design and just see what you know for each dot point. Going through things in a methodical way was comforting to me, because I felt confident in the knowledge I wasn't missing anything really important.

My study routine in August - study for SACs as I felt necessary, and then, with other time, study for exams as I felt necessary. Perhaps not a very helpful answer, but I don't think specifying minutes or anything like that will actually be helpful for you.

Thanks for the questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Sine on August 21, 2018, 12:41:29 pm
Is innate ability more advantageous at a high school (e.g. VCE/HSC) level or during a university degree?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on August 27, 2018, 02:41:30 pm
Is innate ability more advantageous at a high school (e.g. VCE/HSC) level or during a university degree?

This is an interesting question. I'm not sure if there's a right answer, which is probably why I put this off for a little bit (to give some thinking time haha).

I think at either level, innate ability or disposition will only get you so far. You still have to work hard at what you do in order to get those really high results. Sorry to disappoint, but this one really has stumped me haha - I'm not sure I have much of an answer aside from this!

Thanks for the thought-provoking question.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: studyily on September 24, 2018, 04:56:50 pm
How hard is it to get 99+ like how much work did u do in the holidays leading up to the hsc? And how do u space out subjects according to exams?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: PhoebeC on September 24, 2018, 10:44:41 pm
Hey Joseph
Just wondering, how much do trials really matter? I was doing okay up until trials now I'm worried that my ATAR will be very negatively impacted because of it.
Cheers
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 25, 2018, 01:46:29 pm
How hard is it to get 99+ like how much work did u do in the holidays leading up to the hsc? And how do u space out subjects according to exams?

Hey studyily!

Really difficult question to answer, because I'm sure some people work SUPER hard all year and don't get a 99+, and others work not as hard but DO get that 99+. There's definitely no magic number where like, you can study six hours a day and be guaranteed a certain score - it just doesn't work like that.

Getting a 99+ ATAR is objectively difficult insofar as it places you in the top ~1%. But when I was in Year 10/11, I saw this as entirely unreachable and unfeasible, whilst now, in hindsight, somebody has to get those scores - so why not you? You don't need to get 100% on all of your assessments. You don't need to know all the answers.

How much did I study? In the holidays, I reckon probs a few hours per day on the days that I did study, but I certainly didn't study every single day of the holidays. I didn't really have a huge strategy when it came to spacing out subjects. I guess I studies marginally more for the subjects that I'd be examined on first, but in general, I just tried to keep everything really balanced. :)

Hey Joseph
Just wondering, how much do trials really matter? I was doing okay up until trials now I'm worried that my ATAR will be very negatively impacted because of it.
Cheers

Hey Phoebe! Welcome to ATAR Notes. :)

If at all possible, I'd really encourage you to not concern yourself too much with your Trial marks This article is really the best thing you could read at the moment. Trials don't mean nothing, but they also don't mean everything. They are, after all, a trial - and you should use what you've learnt (so - why don't you think you did so well?) in preparation for your HSC. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Hannahco on September 25, 2018, 06:34:04 pm
Hey Joseph!

How did you keep motivated? After trials I can't manage to actually start studying again and no matter how hard I try I just feel so lost and overwhelmed!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: manthila2000 on September 25, 2018, 07:43:14 pm
When you came out of the exam rooms, were you confident that you did well?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 26, 2018, 02:18:25 pm
Hey Joseph!

How did you keep motivated? After trials I can't manage to actually start studying again and no matter how hard I try I just feel so lost and overwhelmed!

Hey Hannah. :)

I reckon a lot of people would facing similar things at this time of year, so you're certainly not alone on that front!

Trials - brutal. I really think you need to take some time to yourself after trials, because a) it's a big thing emotionally, and b) you don't want to burn out before the HSC. So try not to feel bad actually looking after yourself and taking time off - in many cases, it's necessary, and good strategy in the long run.

Re: motivation, what are you actually working toward? A particular course or score? Do you just want to do as well as you can? If you can firm up the point of it all in your mind, it will, hopefully, be a bit easier to keep pushing through. Because if you're working for no particular reason or purpose, it's so, so easy to lose motivation altogether.

If you're feeling overwhelmed, it's probably good to break things down, too. Instead of thinking like, "I have to do Biology study", think about what you can do to break your work down further. Getting through very small tasks consistently is, I think, a lot easier than getting through one huge one. :)

When you came out of the exam rooms, were you confident that you did well?

Hey! Good question. :) It varied a bit. I reckon, from memory:

Exam 1: 6/10
Exam 2: 8/10
Exam 3: 8/10
Exam 4: 9/10
Exam 5: 9/10
Exam 6: 10/10
Exam 7: 4/10
Exam 8: 6/10

Pretty good overall, I guess, but I was definitely disappointed after some. What I will say here, though, is that there's not always a correlation between how you think you've performed, and how you've actually performed. It's honestly really difficult to say, because it doesn't just depend on your own performance, but also the performances of other people sitting that subject.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: dcesaona on September 26, 2018, 03:30:51 pm
Hi, I was wondering, do you think it's more advantageous to go into an exam feeling confident or stressed? For my trials I went into those feeling anxious but ended up with amazing results, so maybe it doesn't affect your exam performance.

Also, what did you do on the nights before exams?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 26, 2018, 03:59:01 pm
Hi, I was wondering, do you think it's more advantageous to go into an exam feeling confident or stressed? For my trials I went into those feeling anxious but ended up with amazing results, so maybe it doesn't affect your exam performance.

Also, what did you do on the nights before exams?


Honestly, I'd say a combination of the two. Not over-confident, but not over-stressed haha. Pretty basic answer but one I think is pretty on the money. For me, that meant knowing I'd prepared well in combination with natural pre-exam nerves.

Nights before exams, I honestly just chilled. Every time. Watched sport, did other stuff - never studied. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Lokleo417 on September 26, 2018, 07:30:25 pm
Hi I’m also currently a yr 11 business management  :) but I’ve lost motivation for the subject. One of the reasons for this is constantly being around friends that really know what their doing in the subject :/
How did u get motivated in yr 11 to do business management?
How often did u study for the exam and how early did u start?
Any tips to ace business management? (I’ll try anything at this point)
How do u memorise so much content?
Overall, how did u manage stress? (because I’m constantly stressed and never do well in exams)
Cheers in advance mate  :D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Shivu123 on September 28, 2018, 03:17:20 pm
Hi im currently in year 12 doing SACE, i was wondering what atar i would get if i had the following grade for each subject:
Maths Specialist - B
Chemistry - C+
Maths Method  - C+
Physics - A-
English - B-
RP - B
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 01, 2018, 04:12:55 pm
Hi I’m also currently a yr 11 business management  :) but I’ve lost motivation for the subject. One of the reasons for this is constantly being around friends that really know what their doing in the subject :/
How did u get motivated in yr 11 to do business management?
How often did u study for the exam and how early did u start?
Any tips to ace business management? (I’ll try anything at this point)
How do u memorise so much content?
Overall, how did u manage stress? (because I’m constantly stressed and never do well in exams)
Cheers in advance mate  :D

Hey! How are you finding Business overall, putting aside the lack of motivation for a minute? Content interesting?

I think I know the feeling you're referring to. I've been in classes before where it's just like, "What's the point? Everybody else knows what's going on - I don't." But having also been on the other side of that, I'm pretty confident in suggesting those people you think know what they're doing, probably don't to the extent you think they do. And you're probably more capable yourself than you think you are.

To answer your questions:

How did u get motivated in yr 11 to do business management?
In hindsight, I honestly didn't find the subject overly interesting or enjoyable as far as content went. But I kept motivated in knowing that, for the first time ever, my assessments, exams etc. could actually count toward my ATAR. For years, I don't think I extended myself as much as I could have, because at the end of the day, I knew that my performance wouldn't directly impact my final results either way.

So, I guess just this knowledge alone gave me a sort of motivation I'd never had before. "Do well on this SAC/exam, and you will be rewarded" sort of thing.

Don't get me wrong: I struggled for motivation throughout the year. This is natural. But every time I hit a lull in motivation/performance, I'd eventually get back on track due to the knowledge above.

How often did u study for the exam and how early did u start?
I studied for the exam every single time I studied Business Management in general. ;) I think this is something a lot of people miss. They see "exam study" as an isolated this but, if you think about it, you've been preparing for your end-of-year exam ever since you started the subject.

I think you're asking about exam-specific study, though. I probably started in like July? I had an extra free period for the back half of the year as I dropped Art Units 1/2 (good decision), so I usually used that time to study for Business where I could.

Initially, it wasn't very regular. So if you're thinking, "shit - July?!", don't stress. It was sometimes literally five minutes here, ten minutes there. As the exam came closer, I studied for it more. The Term 3/Term 4 holidays (so, now) were big for me, I think. This is probably when I really tried to smash through some practice exams.

Any tips to ace business management? (I’ll try anything at this point)
How do u memorise so much content?
I'll answer these two questions together, because I think they're linked.

When learning content, try to link everything as much as possible to real-life experience. If you have a job, try to link everything you can to that job in order to make the content less conceptual and more practical. If you don't have a job, no stress - imagine working at, say, KFC, and think about the likely scenarios you'd find there.

You might be using mnemonics at the moment, which are great for learning big chunks of content. I definitely recommend these.

People say not to rote learn definitions, but honestly, I did, and it worked for me. I'd rote learn them, then try to explain them to my parents/brother/friends etc. to ensure I actually did understand the content (which is probably the main danger with rote learning stuff).

When answering questions, I honestly think BusMan is pretty formulaic. That is, you can usually tell the structure of a response just by reading the question (this will come with time, and you should work closely with your teacher if possible). If names are included in a case study, use those names in your response. Try to avoid vagueness, and really double down on the content included in the specific question.

Overall, how did u manage stress? (because I’m constantly stressed and never do well in exams)
With varying success (as was the case through uni). I think doing stuff you enjoy is really important. I tried to have a "deadline" of sorts where I wouldn't study for a subject past a certain date. So for Business, for example, I felt fully prepared like two days prior to the exam, meaning I didn't have to cram.

To expand on that, I never studied at night, because I personally found that stressful - so instead, I studied in the morning. It's a very personal thing.

In terms of exam-specific stress, IMO good preparation is the key here. Luckily, you have time on your side, and can really make it easier on future you over the next few weeks. :)

Cheers in advance mate  :D
No stress! Sorry for the late response. Good luck for the rest of the year - let me know if you have any other questions!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 01, 2018, 04:14:29 pm
Hi im currently in year 12 doing SACE, i was wondering what atar i would get if i had the following grade for each subject:
Maths Specialist - B
Chemistry - C+
Maths Method  - C+
Physics - A-
English - B-
RP - B

Hey Shivu!

Great to have you here on ATAR Notes. :) How are you finding SACE so far? Any thoughts on what you want to do next year?

It's actually extremely difficult to estimate ATAR based on raw marks alone, as a lot more comes into play when it comes to the ATAR. This probably isn't the sort of response you're looking for, but honestly, I think your best bet for hitting the ATAR you want is to try to worry as little as possible about the numbers themselves, and more on improving your study techniques and exam prep. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on February 26, 2019, 05:14:11 pm
Bump - taking questions for 2019. :)

P.S. Since the OP, I have watched the 2006 series and am now starting the 2007 series. Yikes.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Jimmmy on March 11, 2019, 05:39:49 pm
Hey Joseph,

Did you find any of your subjects were vague in terms of their content, and/or what you could be assessed on? If so, how did you deal with it? The only two we've got/had in common are BusMan & EngLang, both of which I find are pretty straightforward in preparing for SACs/Exams anyway. I'm not very familiar with your other choices, but maybe VisCom could be put in that boat for you?

Some clarification; I'm doing Philosophy and everything I'm studying for seems to be flying straight over my head. I did 1&2, but the fact that it actually counts towards my ATAR now is a massive weight, and seems to be preventing me from taking in information   :-[:-X It was so chill last year, mainly just class group discussion and such and evaluation of arguments on SACs, and quite varied. It's more analytical now, and obviously there's added pressure.

I know you didn't do Philosophy, but maybe you've had experiences with subjects not just in high school, or even Uni? Any advice would be appreciated.  :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 12, 2019, 11:26:46 am
Hey Joseph,

Did you find any of your subjects were vague in terms of their content, and/or what you could be assessed on? If so, how did you deal with it? The only two we've got/had in common are BusMan & EngLang, both of which I find are pretty straightforward in preparing for SACs/Exams anyway. I'm not very familiar with your other choices, but maybe VisCom could be put in that boat for you?

Some clarification; I'm doing Philosophy and everything I'm studying for seems to be flying straight over my head. I did 1&2, but the fact that it actually counts towards my ATAR now is a massive weight, and seems to be preventing me from taking in information   :-[:-X It was so chill last year, mainly just class group discussion and such and evaluation of arguments on SACs, and quite varied. It's more analytical now, and obviously there's added pressure.

I know you didn't do Philosophy, but maybe you've had experiences with subjects not just in high school, or even Uni? Any advice would be appreciated.  :)

Hey Jimmmy! Thanks for the question. :)

Yeah, I think I know what you mean. A lot of frustration arose for me because even though you have the study design (which you should use heavily if you can), it only goes so far in indicating how much depth you need to know things in. And this is compounded when textbooks explain concepts with heaps of unnecessary information, so you're just like - okay, do I actually need to know this, or nah?

VCD was actually pretty clear for me in terms of the theory, but yeah, it was difficult at times to know what was required for the folio.

Uni was a different matter altogether for me, and I had these frustrations extremely often hahaha.

Anyway, to answer your question:
* I remember feeling similarly about the pressures of subjects actually contributing. I kept a diary through Year 11, and my thoughts regarding Business Management 3&4 were essentially "oh no oh no oh no oh no oh no" haha. But at the end of the day, it's just another subject. I totally get what you're saying, but there's no magic formula. If you've done well with subjects previously, there's no reason why you can't with Philosophy 3&4, even if it's super confusing atm.
* I trust you've consulted the study design? I know this is pretty cliche advice, but the study design is super important. It runs through everything that's examinable (I literally used to go through study designs and highlight what I felt I knew, which was a great way of highlighting (so to speak) what I needed to work on), but it also runs through how you're going to be assessed.
* I believe a sample examination will be released by the end of the term, so that should help in terms of what types of questions you can expect. :)
* Noting that it's probably particularly tricky because this year is the first year of a new study design for Philo, so teachers might have even fewer resources available to them. Regardless, I'd really, really encourage chatting to your teachers if you're not feeling comfortable with any of the content. They're on your side.

Please ask more questions here if you want to. I'm not sure how helpful I've been!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: lastapasta on March 13, 2019, 07:51:22 pm
hi! how did you find psychology?
(btw these questions are all in relation to psych)
how much study time did you devote to psychology in your routine? is it incredibly difficult to get a 45+?
did you find it easier than your other subjects, and if not, what made it hard/easy?
which is better, typed notes or handwritten, and why? is copying the powerpoint directly a bad idea?
how do you go about revising notes for the end of the year?
also, how did you study for psych? (like notes, flashcards, etc.)
thank you so much!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Tanisha 777 on March 13, 2019, 10:14:55 pm
Hiii,
How did you do it . What did you study, how did you study, did you use extra resources if so where from ? Also how did you study for english in the way of writing sounds dumb but im not so good at it. Thankyou
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ionic Doc on March 14, 2019, 07:03:18 am
Question 1. what did you study in high school
Question 2. specialist maths vs biology and why
Question3. What are you studying in UNI
Question 4. What is your dream job
Question 5. Are you also a tutesmart tutor cause I see u EVERYWHERE in ATAR NOTES
thank :P
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 10:02:44 am
hi! how did you find psychology?
how much study time did you devote to psychology in your routine? is it incredibly difficult to get a 45+?
did you find it easier than your other subjects, and if not, what made it hard/easy?
which is better, typed notes or handwritten, and why? is copying the powerpoint directly a bad idea?
how do you go about revising notes for the end of the year?
also, how did you study for psych? (like notes, flashcards, etc.)
thank you so much!

Hey lastapasta! Thanks for your questions - I'll answer them one by one. :)

hi! how did you find psychology?
I enjoyed it! I had four subjects (Psych, English Language, VCD, HHD) that were all my favourite subject at one point in time. There was never really a period where I didn't enjoy Psych, although some parts I found a bit dry. My year was the last year that Psych had a mid-year exam, so that was pretty hectic. In some ways it was good to get an exam assessment out of the way mid-year, but overall I think I'd prefer the way it is now (as it was for the rest of my subjects).

how much study time did you devote to psychology in your routine?
Probably not the answer you're looking for, but basically as much as I felt necessary at the time haha. I was fortunate in that I found the content at least somewhat interesting, so it didn't feel like too much of a burden to study for the subject. I would have spoken about this earlier in this thread somewhere, but my general routine was to study pretty much directly before and after school, and not much else, so that's mostly when I studied for Psych. Come the end of the year (and mid-year in my case), I smashed out the practice exams. Psych had a study design change fairly recently, but I'd encourage you not to discount older past exams entirely, because some of the questions will still be very relevant. It might be an idea to work with your teacher or make a thread on ATAR Notes to see which questions are still relevant. :)

is it incredibly difficult to get a 45+?
Objectively, you need to be in the top 2% or so to get a 45+ study score, so yeah, I guess pretty difficult! But pretty difficult isn't the same as unachievable by any means.

did you find it easier than your other subjects, and if not, what made it hard/easy?
Not really. In fact, a lot of my subjects were pretty similar in structure, namely Psych, Business Management and HHD. A fair bit of content, fairly theoretical, a bunch of application questions. I probably benefitted from doing all three because I learnt how to answer questions pretty effectively, I think. I don't think it's really comparable to my other three subjects (English Language, VCD, Further Maths).

which is better, typed notes or handwritten, and why?
I hand-wrote everything, even through uni. Never used a laptop for notes. I think it helps aid information consolidation, and I believe a number of studies back that up, but that's just me. There are heaps of students who did better than I did who would have typed their notes (@jamonwindeyer for one), so I don't think there's necessarily a right or wrong answer here. But yeah, I always hand-wrote.

is copying the powerpoint directly a bad idea?
I don't think doing this would be the most effective study technique if you're just passively copying it from the screen or a print-out. Don't get me wrong, I don't notes from PowerPoint presentations, too, but I tried to actively think about what I was writing, and where that information fit in the broader scheme of the course. Basically, I'd like:

* copy stuff from presentation in class pretty roughly;
* think about that information some more, maybe do some practice questions;
* summarise what I'd learnt less roughly;
* summarise that again;
* summarise that again (and so on);
* do some more practice questions.

And that's pretty much it. So to answer your question in a really roundabout way, I don't think it's inherently bad, no, but I also don't think it would necessarily be that effective if that's the only study you were doing for the subject.

how do you go about revising notes for the end of the year?
I loved summaries. I wrote a lot of them, and tried to get my notes to be as concise as possible. When I felt comfortable on the majority of the content (maybe even before), I started practice exams (and had done practice questions throughout the year). Marking those practice exams was a really important process for me - perhaps even more important than actually sitting the exams in the first place.

For notes specifically, to be honest, they were more a mean to an end than an end in themselves for me. What I mean here is that the benefit of having good notes for me was that I could give them to somebody and then get tested on the information really easily, and that's where the value came rather than just, y'know, having notes. I hope that makes sense haha.

also, how did you study for psych? (like notes, flashcards, etc.)
As above, a combination of initial notes and then summaries, getting tested (verbally), practice questions and practice exams.

thank you so much!
No problem at all - hope to see you more around the forums. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: lastapasta on March 14, 2019, 10:14:50 am
how do you go about revising notes for the end of the year?
I loved summaries. I wrote a lot of them, and tried to get my notes to be as concise as possible. When I felt comfortable on the majority of the content (maybe even before), I started practice exams (and had done practice questions throughout the year). Marking those practice exams was a really important process for me - perhaps even more important than actually sitting the exams in the first place.

Hi, thanks for your response, it was really helpful! What do you mean by writing summaries? Do you mean like writing out everything you have learnt without using the book? I am just a little confused as to how I would go about that.

Also, yeah, I hand write all my notes because it helps me to absorb what I am writing down, so it makes me feel a little better that you did that too haha :)

As for copying from the powerpoint, so far I've been copying directly because I am afraid that if I write it in my own words, I will miss some buzz words or key phrases that are needed. I am trying to apply what I copy down but I am not sure how to do that other than practise exam questions.

Again, thank you!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 10:17:03 am
Hiii,
How did you do it . What did you study, how did you study, did you use extra resources if so where from ? Also how did you study for english in the way of writing sounds dumb but im not so good at it. Thankyou

Hey Tanisha - welcome to ATAR Notes! :)

How did you do it
If by "it" you mean scoring highly, mostly by doing the simple and basic things really well and consistently throughout the year. I didn't do anything particularly amazing!

What did you study
So I studied in Victoria (but hello to all those users from other states - super happy to answer any of your questions, too!), and studied:

Year 10: Business Management 1&2
Year 11: Business Management 3&4, English Language 1&2, Maths Methods 1&2, Art 1&2, Visual Communication Design 1&2, Psychology 1&2
Year 12: English Language 3&4, Visual Communication 3&4, Psychology 3&4, Health and Human Development 3&4, Further Maths 3&4

how did you study
As above, nothing particularly special. Summaries, practice questions - all that sort of stuff. But I think one thing I *did* do well was preparing to study, which you can read about more in this article. :)

did you use extra resources if so where from ?
Hmm, not really, to be honest. Study guides weren't really a thing at the time, so I relied mostly on my textbooks (although I tried to get my hands on textbooks from a number of different companies if at all possible, as some seem to have different information to others). My school provided some practice exams for some subjects, but otherwise I just tried to smash out any free ones I could find - largely from VCAA. ATAR Notes' free lectures didn't exist, but if they did, I 100% would have gone to those. Instead, I went to like one revision lecture, which was decent but also expensive (or at least, felt expensive to Year 12 Joseph41 haha).

I certainly don't think buying stuff guarantees you a good ATAR, or is necessary in every situation to get a good ATAR.

Also how did you study for english in the way of writing sounds dumb but im not so good at it.
Practice. Honestly, I think it's the best way. Just keep writing, get feedback (really important), and then write some more. Go back and re-write your old essays or whatever just to improve them, and see the difference. Keep re-writing them until you're happy with the standard and see improvement.

I think this thread could be useful, too:

"I'm shit at writing"

Thankyou
All good - feel free to ask any other questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 10:23:36 am
Question 1. what did you study in high school
Question 2. specialist maths vs biology and why
Question3. What are you studying in UNI
Question 4. What is your dream job
Question 5. Are you also a tutesmart tutor cause I see u EVERYWHERE in ATAR NOTES
thank :P

Yo! :)

Question 1. what did you study in high school
As above:

Year 10: Business Management 1&2
Year 11: Business Management 3&4, English Language 1&2, Maths Methods 1&2, Art 1&2, Visual Communication Design 1&2, Psychology 1&2
Year 12: English Language 3&4, Visual Communication 3&4, Psychology 3&4, Health and Human Development 3&4, Further Maths 3&4

Question 2. specialist maths vs biology and why
For me? I'd prefer Biology. For you? That's a completely different matter, and depends on so many things. Do you need either for a uni course you're interested in? What are your other subjects? What are you good at? And most importantly, what do you enjoy?

Question3. What are you studying in UNI
I studied a Bachelor of Arts at Monash University. I majored in Linguistics and International Studies, and then went on to do Honours, also in Linguistics. :) Now I work full-time for ATAR Notes!

Question 4. What is your dream job
I love my job at the moment! Haha. But beyond that, I'm not really sure. I have interests in education, linguistics (mostly sociolinguistics), sport, politics, design. Anything that comes two or more of those would be pretty neat. But yeah, love my work at the moment.

Question 5. Are you also a tutesmart tutor cause I see u EVERYWHERE in ATAR NOTES
Nah, but I used to be! I'm still involved in TuteSmart, but more behind the scenes now.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 10:28:54 am
Hi, thanks for your response, it was really helpful! What do you mean by writing summaries? Do you mean like writing out everything you have learnt without using the book? I am just a little confused as to how I would go about that.

Also, yeah, I hand write all my notes because it helps me to absorb what I am writing down, so it makes me feel a little better that you did that too haha :)

As for copying from the powerpoint, so far I've been copying directly because I am afraid that if I write it in my own words, I will miss some buzz words or key phrases that are needed. I am trying to apply what I copy down but I am not sure how to do that other than practise exam questions.

Again, thank you!

No problem! Glad to hear it was useful. :)

Summaries - good question. My process was like:

* Start with a chapter, or a page of a textbook, or a PowerPoint presentation or something. Read through it.
* Try to condense that information. So if I started with a chapter of a textbook, I might try to re-write it so that I included all of the important information into one single page.
* I'd then read through that one page and try to condense all the information into, say, two paragraphs.

And I'd keep doing this until I felt as though I was conveying everything important in as few words as possible. This was good for me because:

a) it made me actively think about what was important in the course and what wasn't as important;
b) it made it easier to see links between different parts of the course;
c) it improved my writing skills; and
d) it gave me a heap of great revision tools for the end of the year, because I could hand those summaries to somebody and get tested on the information.

Hand-writing notes - nice! Haha.

PowerPoint slides - I know those feels. I did a similar thing through uni lectures to be honest. If you're copying word for word, though, I wonder if there's something more effective you could do with that time (on the assumption you'll have access to the PowerPoint later)?

Applying information - how about mind maps? I think they're great for seeing information visually and how it all connects. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ionic Doc on March 14, 2019, 12:20:03 pm
I studied a Bachelor of Arts at Monash University. I majored in Linguistics and International Studies, and then went on to do Honours, also in Linguistics. :) Now I work full-time for ATAR Notes!

DaMMN  ;)
Majored in linguistics (can you write my essays for me  ;D jk)
and International Studies...is that like International Law?
correct me if im wrong but don't you have the qualifications to become a lawyer....and also how do you work for atar notes...thats a new concept
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 12:34:48 pm
DaMMN  ;)
Majored in linguistics (can you write my essays for me  ;D jk)
and International Studies...is that like International Law?
correct me if im wrong but don't you have the qualifications to become a lawyer....and also how do you work for atar notes...thats a new concept

International Studies was more like a combination of history, politics, religion and philosophy to be honest. Was a bit of a weird mix. It was fine, but probably would major in Linguistics and Philosophy if I had my time again.

And nah, definitely not qualified to become a lawyer. You need a Law degree for that!

ATAR Notes - see this thread. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ionic Doc on March 14, 2019, 12:52:34 pm
International Studies was more like a combination of history, politics, religion and philosophy to be honest. Was a bit of a weird mix. It was fine, but probably would major in Linguistics and Philosophy if I had my time again.

And nah, definitely not qualified to become a lawyer. You need a Law degree for that!

ATAR Notes - see this thread. :)

ohh....but can't you go into a law degree from bachelor of arts?

I also read your thread and your 100% right everyone starts from zero!
also cause your a moderator does the warning level thing  (20% being watched ) that I have ever get removed.
thnx
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 01:09:35 pm
ohh....but can't you go into a law degree from bachelor of arts?

You can! You can study law either at undergraduate (usually your first degree) or postgraduate (usually after already graduating from a degree). In theory, I could study undergraduate law or postgraduate law if I wanted to and was accepted. However, I chose not to study law after high school, and nothing has changed since then - I don't think it would be right for me. ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ionic Doc on March 14, 2019, 01:12:55 pm
You can! You can study law either at undergraduate (usually your first degree) or postgraduate (usually after already graduating from a degree). In theory, I could study undergraduate law or postgraduate law if I wanted to and was accepted. However, I chose not to study law after high school, and nothing has changed since then - I don't think it would be right for me. ;D

nicce everyone's different and the last thing u want is to be doing a job that your not interested in..that would be a major RIP
what can you do or become with your qualifications anyways,
just curious  :P
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 14, 2019, 01:17:52 pm
nicce everyone's different and the last thing u want is to be doing a job that your not interested in..that would be a major RIP
what can you do or become with your qualifications anyways,
just curious  :P


Interesting question. I haven't really come across many professions at all where a Bachelor of Arts is required. At least, not in the same way that you need to have studied law to practise it, or medicine to practise it. So in that sense, I guess not heaps (although a number of jobs do require an undergraduate degree).

I think what's been more useful for me than the actual qualification has been the skills I've picked up along the way. For example, I think studying Linguistics has certainly helped improve my writing and communication skills - useful in almost any profession.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: tocoolforschool on March 19, 2019, 08:59:24 am
What kind of marks should I be getting all year around to get an ATAR above 98?
80+? 90+? 95+?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ionic Doc on March 19, 2019, 10:43:32 am
hey I just realised who you are
your the guy from the ATAR notes online commercial... ;)

anyways my question:
what was your study routine,  like daily after school
how did you plan what subjects you would study when you were bombarded with homework.
 :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2019, 12:55:52 pm
What kind of marks should I be getting all year around to get an ATAR above 98?
80+? 90+? 95+?

Hey toocoolforschool,

Really difficult one to answer, because the raw marks you receive honestly aren't that important. For clarity, it's really important to do well on your SACs, but it's not as though averaging 80 through the year will lead to an 80 ATAR or whatever. This is because different schools have different SACs - and mark differently - so a mark of, say, 60 in a SAC at your school might be completely different to a mark of 60 in a SAC at my school.

For this reason, SAC rankings and then your final exam marks are more pertinent. It's a bit complicated, but you can read more about it here if you're interested.

I think the takeaway should be to do as well as you can on all of your assessments, but try not to worry too much about the actual number. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2019, 12:58:51 pm
hey I just realised who you are
your the guy from the ATAR notes online commercial... ;)

anyways my question:
what was your study routine,  like daily after school
how did you plan what subjects you would study when you were bombarded with homework.
 :)


what was your study routine,  like daily after school
Think I've spoken about this a bit in this thread, but basically like:

> Get to school a bit early (probably like 8am), read newspapers, study before school.
> School.
> Stay at school for a couple of hours and study.
> Go home, study no more.

I always studied at the same location before school, and also after school (though it was a different location in the morning and in the afternoon, if that makes sense). I pretty much never studied at night - and seldom at home.

how did you plan what subjects you would study when you were bombarded with homework.
It was just a matter of working out what was the biggest priority at the time. I don't think there are any complicated formulae here - it was largely just gut feel. A big part of this is keeping the discipline to study what you need to rather than what you want to.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Jimmmy on March 24, 2019, 12:07:34 pm
Hey Joseph,

I've got my AC for EngLang coming up for the informal text/transcript, any tips? It's amazing how differently our new teacher has taught us the AC structure, as compared to last year where the retiring teacher suggested a subsystem-based analysis.

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Ash Grey on March 24, 2019, 09:26:40 pm
I'm in year 11 and everyone around me tells me that i need to have tuition to get a good atar. I have never gone to any tutors. What should I do?
And any tips on how not to procrastinate?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: zuijinde on March 24, 2019, 09:36:57 pm
I'm in year 11 and everyone around me tells me that i need to have tuition to get a good atar. I have never gone to any tutors. What should I do?
And any tips on how not to procrastinate?
Hey!

I've been tutored ever since I was in grade 2 all the way to year 11. I didn't take my tutor classes seriously until 3 quarters of year 10.
I stopped tutoring in year 12 because I didn't really like the way my tutor taught in year 11, plus I wanted to work. I still managed to get a good atar despite all this.
Getting good scores is more about understanding the topic and applying it to certain situations as opposed to rote learning. Tutors are just there to faciliate your learning.

I'd suggest you go for it, but don't be scared to drop it if you don't like it!
Hope this helps
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 25, 2019, 10:29:12 am
Hey Joseph,

I've got my AC for EngLang coming up for the informal text/transcript, any tips? It's amazing how differently our new teacher has taught us the AC structure, as compared to last year where the retiring teacher suggested a subsystem-based analysis.



Hey Jimmmy!

Interesting question. My EngLang year was actually the very first that had an analytical commentary. As such, nobody really knew what to expect or what to do - I think teachers included. So I was taught the sub-system approach, which I think in some ways is just simpler and perhaps more intuitive. I used that through Year 12 and did fine, and it's what I was most familiar with.

Since then, I've changed my mind, and I think the "big ideas" approach (which is what I assume you've been taught this year?) is better for a number of reasons, and provides the chance for deeper analysis. I don't think the subsystem approach is wrong by any means (again, it's what I used), but I'd encourage the big ideas approach if you have the choice.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 25, 2019, 10:32:59 am
I'm in year 11 and everyone around me tells me that i need to have tuition to get a good atar. I have never gone to any tutors. What should I do?
And any tips on how not to procrastinate?

Hey Ash Grey! Welcome to the forums, and thanks for your post. :)

How are you finding Year 11 so far? In many ways, I actually found Year 11 more difficult than Year 12.

Re: tutoring, no, you absolutely do not need to get tutoring to get a good ATAR. I didn't get any tutoring at all in Year 12, nor did many other students who achieved great marks.

Now, that's not to say that tutoring can't be extremely beneficial - I honestly think it can, and is in many circumstances. But I think the idea that you need to get tutoring in order to do well in Year 12 is absolutely misguided. It's a really personal thing, and if you don't think it'll help you, don't pursue it (as was the case with me).

Re: procrastination, I think it's largely a matter of discipline. For me, I procrastinate when I give myself the opportunity to do so - when I have my phone next to me, or when I haven't set myself up to study properly etc. If you work out a nice routine and have a space dedicated to study, where you actively limit potential distractors, I think you're well on the road to avoiding procrastination. This article may also be helpful. :)

Looking forward to seeing you more around the forums!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: JR_StudyEd on March 27, 2019, 02:56:36 pm
So, I can ask you literally anything?  ;) :P

1) Do you personally think that it is better off for you not to study at all than to study ineffectively and inefficiently?
2) Not asking for medical advice here, just your opinion. Are naps good or bad for your health?
3) How do I switch studying between subjects on a given night (i.e. when do you know that it's time to study English after having studied Methods for x minutes?)

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on March 27, 2019, 03:24:00 pm
So, I can ask you literally anything?  ;) :P

Sure, within the constraints of the site rules! ;)

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1) Do you personally think that it is better off for you not to study at all than to study ineffectively and inefficiently?

Interesting question. Depends on a lot of factors. For example, do you have finite time, and are you simply looking to learn as much as possible? It would logically follow (IMO), then, that some study - even if poor study - is better than none.

But what if you have finite time and want to do other things? What if you have different priorities? What if you'll study better the next day?

There are very many factors here and I'm not sure I can provide a particularly helpful answer at the moment haha. But to answer your question in a roundabout sort of way, there were many times when I decided not to study because I thought it would be counter-productive in the long run.

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2) Not asking for medical advice here, just your opinion. Are naps good or bad for your health?

Honestly I have no idea, but I don't really nap. I think that's mostly because I work 9-5, and generally have decent enough sleep patterns on weekends, too. I know some people who used to nap as soon as they came home, and that gave them a bit of an energy boost for their evening study. But in terms of health, I don't know and it would probably be irresponsible to suggest otherwise.

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3) How do I switch studying between subjects on a given night (i.e. when do you know that it's time to study English after having studied Methods for x minutes?)

Personally I preferred, if possible, to focus on 1-2 subjects per day. This meant I could delve a little deeper in those subjects rather than flicking between all of my subjects on a surface level. So it might have been the case that I would study for one in the morning, for example, and then one after school. I also tried to make those subjects as dissimilar as possible just to give myself a break from certain ways of thinking.

In general, though, I'd trust your gut. If you're studying for English but in the back of your head you have a voice going, "mate, you should really be studying for maths", that could be a good sign. I never really used minutes or time spent as a factor - I based it more on intuition. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on July 08, 2019, 01:27:43 pm
There was a question here I came to respond to. It's since been deleted but I'm going to respond anyway. It was basically, "how do you keep accountable with to-do lists?"

It's an interesting question, because I think of to-do lists as more a means to an end than an end in and of themselves. That is, I use to-do lists to stay accountable - I've never really thought about keeping accountable with to-do lists, if that makes sense.

I guess it comes down to routine for me. The to-do list is the first thing I do each morning (for work, at least). Not only do I then have the physical reminder of what I have to get through - it also helps clear my mind a bit, and lets me focus on the tasks at hand as I get through them one by one.

I hope that helped at least a little. Always open to answer more questions!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: pleasehelp123 on July 08, 2019, 02:09:23 pm
Hey Joseph41,

Thanks for making this thread and congrats on your amazing results!

I had a few questions about your routine during university - how many hours did you study per day (or did you not count the hours and instead just work from your to do list)? And you mentioned that when you were doing VCE you didn’t study at home - what kinds of things did you do when you were at home? Did you ever feel like you should be studying? I feel like I’m wasting a lot of time just watching YouTube and movies and get that nagging feeling that I should be doing more work. Did you ever get that? (I mean it worked out really well for you and not so much for me so just wondering if I should put more time into studying and cut back on my ‘free time’).

Thanks again! :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on July 08, 2019, 02:15:50 pm
Hey Joseph41,

Thanks for making this thread and congrats on your amazing results!

Thanks very much!

I had a few questions about your routine during university - how many hours did you study per day (or did you not count the hours and instead just work from your to do list)?[/quote]

Yeah, I think it would be disingenuous to give a hour figure. It would have changed from semester to semester (and also within semester), and honestly I don't think saying like "three hours per day!" is actually useful at all, because three hours of my study could be completely different to three hours of yours.

So yeah, mostly just churned through what was needed. Significantly lower than the number of hours others would have invested, though (just due to the degree).

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And you mentioned that when you were doing VCE you didn’t study at home - what kinds of things did you do when you were at home? Did you ever feel like you should be studying?

Just relax, really. Watch sport, draw, write poetry. Post on ATAR Notes haha. I've probably overdone it a bit in previous posts - I did study at home sometimes, but honestly it wasn't much at all. The one exception would have been my folio, which I felt I could work on at home without having to think too much.

Did I ever feel like I should be studying? Sometimes, but when I was at home, more often than not I'd come home from school, where I'd studied before and/or after, so I didn't hugely feel the need. If I felt like I had shit to do when it was night, I'd just note them down for the morning to deal with then unless they were absolutely time-sensitive (rare - don't remember any occasion of this, actually).

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I feel like I’m wasting a lot of time just watching YouTube and movies and get that nagging feeling that I should be doing more work. Did you ever get that?

I think this is natural, probably no matter how much study you're doing. The nature of school is that you could *always* do more if you really wanted to, so it's quite difficult in that sense. I think the key, though, is being productive when you actually *do* study, which will hopefully go some way to freeing your mind up a bit to allow you to actually enjoy your down time.

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(I mean it worked out really well for you and not so much for me so just wondering if I should put more time into studying and cut back on my ‘free time’).

Thanks again! :)

Hard to say! What's your gut feeling at the moment? :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 11, 2019, 02:09:41 pm
As always, happy to answer any questions about school/uni/work etc. :) Feel free to leave them here - this thread is always open!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: J_Rho on September 11, 2019, 02:20:53 pm
As always, happy to answer any questions about school/uni/work etc. :) Feel free to leave them here - this thread is always open!

What are your top 10 tips for people going into Year 12
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 11, 2019, 03:13:30 pm
What are your top 10 tips for people going into Year 12

Not necessarily the top 10 (would require some serious thought), and not in order:

> Take a break between Year 11 and Year 12. There's no need to study every day.
> If you don't already, work between now and the end of the year on speaking up when you don't get something in class. It's so easy to just nod and pretend to understand, which is counter-productive.
> Develop some sort of system for time management. I hated study timetables, so I used to-do lists. Just whatever works for you.
> Don't try to study and chill at the same time - IMO it doesn't work.
> Work on doing the little things well, consistently. For example, getting to bed early, staying hydrated throughout the day etc. Small things add up.
> Don't stop doing the things you enjoy doing just for sake of study.
> Try not to get too caught up with numbers. There'll probably be marks you're not happy with, or disappointed by. Dwelling on the number itself won't help much - working out why you lost marks, and then improving, will actually help.
> Enjoy nature when you can. Get outside.
> Try to balance your subjects - I found it easy to keep studying for the subjects I was good at, and ignore the subjects I wasn't good at. IMO a better approach is to treat them equally.
> Summaries. I loved them. For content-heavy subjects, I used them heaps, and still do! They make you actively think about what you need to include and, therefore, what's actually important.

Happy to elaborate on any if you wish! :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: smallbean on September 11, 2019, 03:51:19 pm
Hi Joseph! I was wondering how you disciplined yourself to avoid procrastination?
Also, how did you organise you time doing SWOTVAC in Year 12?
Thanks so much for this helpful guide!  :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Coolmate on September 11, 2019, 04:19:13 pm
Hi Nick!😀

Thanks for this awesome thread! I was just wondering, did you start Yr 12 work during the September/ October holiday period? If so, was this helpful during Term 4 (Start of Yr12 -Term 1)?🤔

Thanks!
Coolmate 8)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 11, 2019, 04:59:44 pm
Hi Joseph! I was wondering how you disciplined yourself to avoid procrastination?
Also, how did you organise you time doing SWOTVAC in Year 12?
Thanks so much for this helpful guide!  :)


Hey smallbean. :)

Avoiding procrastination was, and is, hard, and even those who achieve 99.95s procrastinate sometimes! So, to answer your question, with varied success haha.

Mostly, though, it was less about discipline and more about preparation for me. If I prepared well, and avoided distractions etc., I found it a lot easier. If you're trying to study but have Facebook open, or the fridge tantalisingly close, or chatty friends around, or whatever else, it's very easy to get off track. But if you're in a nice room with nice natural light, with your books and water, and your phone out of view, it's a lot easier.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is try to be proactive rather than reactive. Instead of punishing yourself or whatever for procrastinating, try to avoid it in the first place by setting yourself up well. Invest some time into study preparation and enjoy the benefits of study efficiency!

Re: SWOTVAC, good question. By the time it rolled around, I felt like I was on a bit of a good thing in terms of the way I was studying etc., so I tried to keep things pretty consistent. I actually went to school most days even though I wasn't formally required to (from memory), and studied in random rooms that weren't being used. Obviously you'll have to speak with your school about what's actually available to you during that time.

Actually being at school instead of home draws me back to the first point - study preparation. It's an important thing! How are you thinking you'll approach SWOTVAC? :)

Hi Nick!😀

Thanks for this awesome thread! I was just wondering, did you start Yr 12 work during the September/ October holiday period? If so, was this helpful during Term 4 (Start of Yr12 -Term 1)?🤔

Thanks!
Coolmate 8)

G'day, Coolmate. No stress at all.

The September/October period of Year 11? No, I didn't, but note that VCE and HSC are structured a little differently. As a rule, in Victoria you don't start Year 12 content in the final term of the year prior, as many do in New South Wales.

Aside from a bit of holiday homework here and there, I didn't do heaps over the summer break, either. I actually travelled for several weeks, and didn't focus on school at all, which was definitely a good call in hindsight! That summer break is pretty lengthy, so there's a bit of flexibility there.

Not quite sure if I've interpreted your question correctly, so please let me know if not, or if you have any others! :)
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Post by: Coolmate on September 11, 2019, 05:38:32 pm
Hey Nick! :)

You pretty much nailed the question, thanks for your reply and insight! The travelling sounds like it was lots of fun! :D Sorry, I may not have been clear, I meant the holidays to come (when this term ends). ;D

Cheers,
Coolmate 8)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 11, 2019, 05:45:30 pm
Hey Nick! :)

You pretty much nailed the question, thanks for your reply and insight! The travelling sounds like it was lots of fun! :D Sorry, I may not have been clear, I meant the holidays to come (when this term ends). ;D

Cheers,
Coolmate 8)

Sweet! Yep, cool. I was focusing on my one Units 3&4 (~Year 12) subject mainly, plus my Year 11 exams. But again, VCE and HSC aren't really comparable in that sense.

What's your plan for the holiday period?
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Post by: Coolmate on September 11, 2019, 05:55:32 pm
Over the holidays, I am planning on going to the AN lectures 8), look over some year 12 content (prep for next term) :) and of course relax/ hang out with friends ;D!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 11, 2019, 05:56:56 pm
Over the holidays, I am planning on going to the AN lectures 8), look over some year 12 content (prep for next term) :) and of course relax/ hang out with friends ;D!

Sounds like an awesome trifecta — particularly the lectures. ;)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: J_Rho on September 16, 2019, 09:47:39 am
Hey Nick!

What is your opinion on working through content during the summer break (so that when you get to class you have background knowlege)?
Also what subjects did you do in Yr 12? (Did they scale in your favor?)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 16, 2019, 10:46:37 am
Hey Nick!

What is your opinion on working through content during the summer break (so that when you get to class you have background knowlege)?
Also what subjects did you do in Yr 12? (Did they scale in your favor?)


Howdy!

I think working through content through the summer break is fine if you want to do it. I also don't think it's necessary in order to do well in Year 12.

No matter which way you go, though, I think balance is important. As I mentioned above, I was actually travelling for a lot of the summer break, and didn't do heaps in terms of VCE preparation aside from assigned homework from my teachers. I certainly wasn't several chapters ahead or anything like that.

Does that mean you should do the same? No, not necessarily. Are you thinking of getting ahead over that break?

Re: subjects, I'll list them below with very approximate raw and scaled scores. This is just from memory, so may not be completely accurate (I might even be contradicting myself from earlier in the thread).

> Business Management (in Year 11): 48 > 47.5
> English Language: 44 > 45.5
> Further Maths: 45 > 44
> Health and Human Development: 50 > 50
> Psychology: 48 > 47.5
> Visual Communication Design: 44 > 42.5

So, only English Language (slightly) scaled up, but I don't really see that as in my favour or otherwise. Scaling is what it is, and it's designed to make the system fairer. I certainly didn't feel that way through Year 11 and Year 12 ("my subjects scale down, this is so unjust!"), but definitely believe that to be true now. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: scientificllama on September 16, 2019, 11:22:35 am
Heya  :)

Any tips for dealing well in school whilst dealing with a chronic illness?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on September 16, 2019, 11:37:57 am
Heya  :)

Any tips for dealing well in school whilst dealing with a chronic illness?

Hey scientificllama!

I haven't experienced this personally, so it's difficult to comment. I certainly recommend applying for the Special Entry Access Scheme (SEAS more commonly), about which you can find out more here.

Otherwise, I'd imagine it would depend heavily on your personal circumstances and the nature of the illness. As people who know you, your teachers/coordinators may be your best bet to chat with. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: J_Rho on September 16, 2019, 07:55:47 pm
Howdy!

I think working through content through the summer break is fine if you want to do it. I also don't think it's necessary in order to do well in Year 12.

No matter which way you go, though, I think balance is important. As I mentioned above, I was actually travelling for a lot of the summer break, and didn't do heaps in terms of VCE preparation aside from assigned homework from my teachers. I certainly wasn't several chapters ahead or anything like that.

Does that mean you should do the same? No, not necessarily. Are you thinking of getting ahead over that break?

Re: subjects, I'll list them below with very approximate raw and scaled scores. This is just from memory, so may not be completely accurate (I might even be contradicting myself from earlier in the thread).

> Business Management (in Year 11): 48 > 47.5
> English Language: 44 > 45.5
> Further Maths: 45 > 44
> Health and Human Development: 50 > 50
> Psychology: 48 > 47.5
> Visual Communication Design: 44 > 42.5

So, only English Language (slightly) scaled up, but I don't really see that as in my favour or otherwise. Scaling is what it is, and it's designed to make the system fairer. I certainly didn't feel that way through Year 11 and Year 12 ("my subjects scale down, this is so unjust!"), but definitely believe that to be true now. :)

Thanks for the reply, yeah I hope to briefly work through the content so that when im in class im focused on asking questions, getting a deeper understanding and filling knowledge gaps
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: brothanathan on October 20, 2019, 07:05:45 pm
What did you personally do in the summer holidays to prepare for Year 12? Is there anything you would have done differentely?

How did you study for HHD? Spaced repetition, key knowledge, avoid waffling and etc.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: SS1314 on October 20, 2019, 07:46:17 pm
"I RECEIVED A 99+ ATAR AND A PERFECT GPA - ASK ME ANYTHING"

Well, what is the meaning of life?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 21, 2019, 07:38:58 am
"I RECEIVED A 99+ ATAR AND A PERFECT GPA - ASK ME ANYTHING"

Well, what is the meaning of life?

Big question! I have no idea - what are your thoughts?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: SS1314 on October 21, 2019, 09:48:20 am
Big question! I have no idea - what are your thoughts?

I have no idea as well. That's why I am asking you, the 99+ ATAR and perfect GPA student, to enlighten me.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 21, 2019, 09:52:48 am
I have no idea as well. That's why I am asking you, the 99+ ATAR and perfect GPA student, to enlighten me.

Me? ATAR and GPA? There are more important things. Friendship. Bravery.

(This is a Hermione Granger reference, but I think it's a good point haha. Those with good grades are usually just as confused and clueless as the rest of us!)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 21, 2019, 10:27:41 am
What did you personally do in the summer holidays to prepare for Year 12? Is there anything you would have done differentely?

How did you study for HHD? Spaced repetition, key knowledge, avoid waffling and etc.

Also, sorry - completely missed this! Thanks for the questions.

Summer holidays:
> I actually travelled for most of it. It was my first time overseas. Loved it, no regrets. When I came back, I got through holiday homework I'd been assigned for my subjects, but I had very little to do. The only subject I had to invest a little bit of time into was HHD, because I hadn't done 1&2 and was picking it up cold.
> I didn't get ahead of content or anything like that. I was never really ahead of the class at all through Year 12.

HHD:
You can see some of my tips/reflections at the links below. :)
> [HHD 50] Maximising your exam performance - from now
> [50 in HHD] Health and Human Development in 2017 and beyond
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: brothanathan on October 21, 2019, 02:34:51 pm
HHD:
You can see some of my tips/reflections at the links below. :)
> [HHD 50] Maximising your exam performance - from now

10/10 recommend the link above :) thanks Jo
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Post by: Joseph41 on October 21, 2019, 02:53:04 pm
10/10 recommend the link above :) thanks Jo

No worries - hope it helps! :) It's been a little while since I studied HHD and the study design has changed a couple (maybe even a few) times, but happy to answer any other questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: yourfriendlyneighbourhoodghost on October 21, 2019, 04:26:30 pm
First of all, thank you and all the ATAR Notes people. I love this forum so so so much.

My questions are:

When you were studying, did you have a certain ATAR goal that sometimes you were very scared you wouldn't get?

Also what are your study tips in general?

And further maths is prob my worst subject, I am doing many practice exams and marking down what I need to improve but on every exam I get like 67 percent ):

Also random, since you liked MAFS, are you are fan of love island or the bachelor?

Thank you so much!

Also, it's comforting to know that you did scaled down subjects and still got an amazing score because every single subject of mine is scaled down and yeah, it's worrying because I need an 80 plus.

Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 21, 2019, 04:35:44 pm
First of all, thank you and all the ATAR Notes people. I love this forum so so so much.

No, thank you! The value of ATAR Notes comes from the people of ATAR Notes, including you and everybody reading this. I love the forum, too! 😍

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My questions are:

When you were studying, did you have a certain ATAR goal that sometimes you were very scared you wouldn't get?

Not really. At the start of Year 11, I was asked to write down my goal ATAR as some sort of motivation tool, and I really had absolutely no idea what to write, because I didn't know what was realistic. I didn't want to aim too high in case I was being unrealistic and just setting myself up for disappointment, but I also didn't want to aim too low, because I wanted to push myself!

As a result of that^ (which I think would be common tbh), I never really had a goal ATAR as such - I just wanted to do as well as I could. All of the courses I was interested in pursuing through Year 12 didn't need a particularly high ATAR, so that wasn't a huge motivating factor, either.

But were there times through Year 12 where I was scared I wouldn't do as well as hoped? Absolutely. Most days haha.

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Also what are your study tips in general?

Tough one. Here are ten broad tips. Happy to elaborate on any if you're interested. :)

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And further maths is prob my worst subject, I am doing many practice exams and marking down what I need to improve but on every exam I get like 67 percent ):

What are you losing marks on mostly?

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Also random, since you liked MAFS, are you are fan of love island or the bachelor?

MAFS feels like so long ago haha. I've never watched Love Island and have no interest in it. The Bachelor - yep, but less and less. I think shows like this are really hitting saturation point. How about you? :)

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Thank you so much!

No worries at all!

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Also, it's comforting to know that you did scaled down subjects and still got an amazing score because every single subject of mine is scaled down and yeah, it's worrying because I need an 80 plus.

Yeah, through VCE I was quite concerned about this, but now I have a better understanding of what scaling is and how it functions. If you're "punished" by doing subjects that scale down, what that scaling is actually doing is just negating the "advantage" you have of less competitive cohorts in your subjects. All in all, things are level, meaning you can be confident that you won't be positively or negatively affected in a substantial way. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: caffinatedloz on October 21, 2019, 06:59:44 pm
What was your biggest VCE regret? Also, how did you deal with stress? ;D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: yourfriendlyneighbourhoodghost on October 22, 2019, 07:08:09 pm
No, thank you! The value of ATAR Notes comes from the people of ATAR Notes, including you and everybody reading this. I love the forum, too! 😍

Not really. At the start of Year 11, I was asked to write down my goal ATAR as some sort of motivation tool, and I really had absolutely no idea what to write, because I didn't know what was realistic. I didn't want to aim too high in case I was being unrealistic and just setting myself up for disappointment, but I also didn't want to aim too low, because I wanted to push myself!

As a result of that^ (which I think would be common tbh), I never really had a goal ATAR as such - I just wanted to do as well as I could. All of the courses I was interested in pursuing through Year 12 didn't need a particularly high ATAR, so that wasn't a huge motivating factor, either.

But were there times through Year 12 where I was scared I wouldn't do as well as hoped? Absolutely. Most days haha.

Tough one. Here are ten broad tips. Happy to elaborate on any if you're interested. :)

What are you losing marks on mostly?

MAFS feels like so long ago haha. I've never watched Love Island and have no interest in it. The Bachelor - yep, but less and less. I think shows like this are really hitting saturation point. How about you? :)

No worries at all!

Yeah, through VCE I was quite concerned about this, but now I have a better understanding of what scaling is and how it functions. If you're "punished" by doing subjects that scale down, what that scaling is actually doing is just negating the "advantage" you have of less competitive cohorts in your subjects. All in all, things are level, meaning you can be confident that you won't be positively or negatively affected in a substantial way. :)

1. I am really into love island at the moment haha. In regards to the bachelor, yeah it's kind of losing its each edge a bit, which saddens me because I used to love the show, still do though.

2. In regards to further, when I complete the practice exams, I think I'm doing really really well. Then I get to marking, and for some reason a lot of answers I thought were correct are actually wrong. To be honest, most of the time it was silly mistakes which I don't really know how to avoid during a timed condition.


3. Also, with uni, how was your experience? Like we're you a popular kid in school and did your popularity influence your social life at uni at all? For me, I am quite selective and find it hard to introduce myself without being awkward, all my school friends are lowkey socially awkward which might explain how we got to be friends haha.


Thank you again, I really appreciate your time  :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: kjistsehrtot on October 22, 2019, 07:43:45 pm
youre basically a god in these forums. however, how did you find out about an?? (the master was once a student)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: J_Rho on October 22, 2019, 08:07:26 pm
Hey Nick,
I know VCE was a while ago for you but do you remember what kind of marks you were receiving throughout the year and did you got to an underrepresented school or not?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on October 23, 2019, 09:33:07 am
Thanks all for the questions!

What was your biggest VCE regret?

Hmm, tough one.

I guess I regret my subject selection a little bit, although I'm not sure "regret" is the right word as such. In hindsight, I probably would have pursued different avenues, but I'm happy with how things turned out overall. For context, I did:

Year 11: Business Management
Year 12: English Language, HHD, Psychology, Visual Communication Design, Further Maths

It changes all the time, but if I could change it now with what I currently know, I'd probably do something like:

Year 10: Further Maths
Year 11: HHD, Psychology
Year 12: English Language, English, VCD, Biology, Methods

But then, I probably wasn't ready for a 3&4 subject in Year 10, or two in Year 11. Everything seems a lot easier now than it did at the time, so it's simple for me to now say, "yeah, I wish I did these eight subjects!", but I'm not sure how that would have turned out in all honesty.

Otherwise, my biggest regret would be not stepping back a little and seeking help when I needed it. Not so much academically - through Year 12, I became quite good at just saying, "I don't understand that; can you please explain it in a different way?". More for just general life stuff. I struggled a fair bit when Year 12 finished because I didn't know what to do, or how I was "meant" to be feeling. I explained it one time as being super wound up, like a spring, and then suddenly having time to unravel.

I have no regrets about how I prepared through the year, or how I prepared for exams. I did what I could at the particular time, although that's not to say that what I did was perfect pedagogically or anything like that.[/quote]

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Also, how did you deal with stress? ;D

By doing things I enjoyed! Very often (mostly weekend mornings), I went off to a cafe for hours at a time to write poetry. I never studied at night, and instead watched sport or just chilled out. I enjoyed casual design. I wasn't playing cricket at the time due to body issues; assuming no injuries, I would have continued with that, too (although would have invested less time into it).

I think the whole not studying at night thing really helped me, though. Instead, I got to school a little early, and stayed a little late, and just did as much as I could at school. It meant I could focus on other things once I got home, like relaxing or tutoring ($).

youre basically a god in these forums. however, how did you find out about an?? (the master was once a student)

Haha, I certainly wouldn't say that, and I certainly don't want that to be the case!

I first heard about ATAR Notes in Year 11 (2011) through one of my Psychology 1&2 classes. My teacher recommended it as a place to get work checked and stuff, which is a bit funny in hindsight. She's had an account since 2009, but has never posted. I lurked for a while, but didn't pay the forums heaps of attention until the exam period at the end of the year. When I finished my Business Management 3&4 exam, I stumbled upon exam discussion, and then messaged a friend with something along the lines of, "shit, I've just found what would have been the BEST resource for BusMan throughout the year". She responded with, "I don't want to know." Haha.

I didn't make my first post until June 2012 - so a fair way through Year 12. I posted here and there, but didn't really become an entrenched part of things until uni, which I guess is a little unusual.

When I first joined ATAR Notes, it was a bit different. In general, there was more emphasis on getting really high scores, and less on other things. As you know, that's a really shallow view of Year 12 and school in general, and I'm so stoked that as a community we've moved away from that. I'm a bit surprised I didn't really start posting on AN until Year 12, given I've posted on other forums since the age of nine haha, but things have turned out nicely enough.

P.S. I'm just some guy that started contributing to the forums and then (really) fell in love with the community. 💙

Hey Nick,
I know VCE was a while ago for you but do you remember what kind of marks you were receiving throughout the year

Vaguely. Never kept track properly (definitely had a good idea at the time, just never wrote scores down anywhere). Scores in general were good, but the numbers specifically aren't that relevant, even if I could remember them to the decimal place (would be more than happy to share - it's just that me saying "75%!" or "98%!" doesn't mean much without further context).

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and did you got to an underrepresented school or not?

Wouldn't call it underrepresented by any means. Wouldn't call it outstanding. It was basically dead average (not in a bad way - in a statistical one).

The school these days would usually be somewhere in the 100-200 mark in terms of rankings, I'd imagine. Average study score usually hovers around 31.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on February 25, 2020, 11:47:05 am
Now that we're a little way into the new year, a reminder that this thread is open still. :) If you have any questions, I'll be more than happy to answer them as best I can!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: ArtyDreams on February 25, 2020, 12:22:24 pm
What do you miss the most about school - do you miss anything at all? How did you find the transition from school to uni?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on February 25, 2020, 12:36:51 pm
What do you miss the most about school - do you miss anything at all? How did you find the transition from school to uni?

Interesting questions! :)

What do you miss the most about school - do you miss anything at all?
It's been a few years for me now, so I think I've sort of gone through a couple of phases with this.

Initially, I missed the structure - and quite a lot. This relates into my answer for the next question, but I lacked structure after high school, and I was really just craving some sort of routine. I didn't have many contact hours at uni, and I suddenly had a lot more time on my hands to use as I saw fit, and I didn't deal particularly well with that.

Later, once I settled into my new routine, I missed some of the people - and still miss some of the people. It's a very different thing working as opposed to studying, and naturally you have different focuses and goals. It's now been more than seven years since I finished high school, and I find myself reminiscing increasingly about good classes, or teachers I got along with, or just the dynamic of the whole thing.

I think I'm looking back on school more favourably than I probably should, though, because I really struggled at times through high school. The bits I'm remembering, though, are all quite positive, so whilst I definitely wouldn't go back if I had the chance to do it all again, I guess it's some of the people I miss most. I haven't seen some of those friends-but-not-super-close type of people since the end of Year 12 - the ones you see in classes and stuff but wouldn't necessarily find time to hang out with outside of school.

How did you find the transition from school to uni?
Hard. Really hard, in fact. I was extremely close to dropping out in my first semester.

As mentioned above, I didn't deal super well with the lack of routine and the change of environment. I'd become pretty comfortable with how school worked and where I sat in that dynamic. Uni was a different ball game.

Not an inherently more difficult ball game, either - I know a lot of people who found uni amazing right off the bat - but I found it hard personally. I'm really glad I stuck with it, though, as I really quite enjoyed uni by the end of it. I found that the more involved I became with uni life, the more I enjoyed it.

Thanks for your questions. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: lockandchase on June 07, 2021, 08:36:44 pm
Hello,
I want to ask if you did Methods back in year 12. If you did, what were the study tricks that you used to help you achieve a high study score? I bought VCE checkpoints to do as well as the ATAR NOTES methods book study guide, notes and workbook. I do all my exercises from school, revise and do my notes. But when it comes to test day or sac time, i always end up stuffing up. Which is really frustrating, I always end up getting 63% or less. I've been getting 63% for the past 2 years. Do you also know where to get hard worded questions for methods? Because I just did my SAC 1 for methods at school, and it is so, so hard. Completely different from all the questions i've seen, i've never been exposed to it before, which i think also contributes to me not doing as well.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Bhrugu on June 07, 2021, 09:05:05 pm
What were your study techniques? What study methods do you use to remember things most effectively?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 08, 2021, 07:43:25 am
Hello,
I want to ask if you did Methods back in year 12. If you did, what were the study tricks that you used to help you achieve a high study score? I bought VCE checkpoints to do as well as the ATAR NOTES methods book study guide, notes and workbook. I do all my exercises from school, revise and do my notes. But when it comes to test day or sac time, i always end up stuffing up. Which is really frustrating, I always end up getting 63% or less. I've been getting 63% for the past 2 years. Do you also know where to get hard worded questions for methods? Because I just did my SAC 1 for methods at school, and it is so, so hard. Completely different from all the questions i've seen, i've never been exposed to it before, which i think also contributes to me not doing as well.

Hey lockandcheese! Welcome to ATAR Notes - thanks for your question. :)

I did Method 1&2 in Year 11, but then dropped it before reaching Year 12 (switched to Further 3&4 instead - I ebb and flow between regretting this and being pleased with the decision).

That does sound frustrating! I don't have Methods 3&4-specific advice to share, but more generally (across all subjects), I think it's important to understand why you're losing the marks you are throughout the year. For example, if you're losing marks in Methods because you're misreading the questions in exam situations, that's a different situation to losing marks in Methods because you don't know the content or formulae, or how to approach questions.

Along this line, my advice is probably to look through previous SACs and work out why you're losing your marks. If it's a matter of understanding the question but being confused about how to approach it, or how to show the most complete working etc., then I'd probably go and re-sit those same SACs (in your own time). This obviously won't charge the marks you received, but my rationale is that you'll actually learn from your mistakes. You could even do them open book - work out how to best approach each question, then sit down and actually do those questions again to the best of your ability. I'm not sure what the dynamic is with your teacher, but they may even be happy to look over it for you and provide additional feedback.

I did this sort of thing with some of my subjects, particularly when I was frustrated about losing marks. Re-doing the questions in this way, to me, is part of what people talk about when they say to "study smart, not hard". It's all well and good doing a SAC and being disappointed with the mark, but if you don't then learn from the test and work out where you went wrong, it's ultimately not leading to much long-term gain.

If, on the other hand, you work out that the marks you're losing are more due to general examination performance (so performing under exam situations), then you can re-create these to practise. Set yourself specific time limits for questions and see how you go. It doesn't matter if you get the question wrong at first or don't award yourself full marks - you can always do it again until you're satisfied with the result. Exam settings are difficult to fully replicate, and they always will be, but you can at least simulate parts of the experience.

As for the difficult worded questions, I'm not 100% sure as I didn't study the 3&4 version of the subject - but you can always ask on the VCE Methods section of this forum, where you're more likely to get a helpful response.

Good luck - let us know how you go!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 08, 2021, 07:52:35 am
What were your study techniques? What study methods do you use to remember things most effectively?


Hey Bhrugu! How's it going? :)

In all likelihood, I've probably answered something similar in this thread previously, but given it's been a little while since this thread was last active, I'll answer now without looking back - the responses might even be a little different!

I think, for me, study techniques depended somewhat on the subject at hand. For maths, I just tried to smash out as many practice questions as I could, really - but, as with my response above, I think it's important to understand where you're going wrong, and to keep track of this throughout the year.

I didn't study "mainstream" English; I studied English Language, meaning I didn't really have to read any books or novels. Instead, I tried to apply the subject to every-day life as much as I could, which I think is really useful for the subject. Otherwise, I tried to work a lot with my teacher for this subject on things like essay structure, as I wasn't super confident going into the year. I'm happy to elaborate on this if you or anybody else is interested in VCE English Language stuff!

For VCD, which is a folio subject for the most part, I just tried to plug away at getting my folio done consistently without too many big gaps. I figured keeping momentum throughout the year was important for a creative project, and I can definitely imagine it would be easy for folios to get quite overwhelming if you leave them to one side for too long. I wrote some folio tips a little while ago here.

And then my last three subjects (Psych, Business Management, HHD) were all quite similar insofar as there was a fair amount of content, and not heaps else. Some things I did to try to remember content/definitions and, later, successfully apply that knowledge to exam situations:

- I used mental images/maps/places I knew to "hide" certain information in my mind. For example, in my mind I could walk around my house, and use certain rooms as prompts to uncover information, if that makes sense. I think this is called the method of loci or similar.

- Some mornings, when a particular definition was annoying me, I just smashed it out with a rote-based approach. I know rote learning gets bad press sometimes, but genuinely I found it pretty useful for relatively basic definitions and the like.

- I loved getting tested on stuff verbally. Generally I think I'm a better writer than speaker, so I figured that if I could explain the connection between two topics verbally, or if I could verbalise a definition, I could probably do it even better in the written form.

- I went hard on summaries. I remember, say, reading a chapter of a textbook, and then trying to summarise it in one page. And then I'd try to summarise the summary. And then I'd try to summarise that summary. This was really helpful for me, because it helped me identify what was, at the crux, the most important information, and how topics interrelated. I'd really recommend this one for some subjects.

- In exams/tests, I tried to pay a lot of attention to mark allocation. For example, if a question was worth three marks, I'd try to think prior to answering what specifically those three marks would be awarded for, and approach my response accordingly.

I hope this is of some use - what subjects were you thinking for specifically? :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: DPal on June 08, 2021, 11:08:39 am
If you weren't getting good SAC scores in Unit 3, but you do really well in Unit 4, will that help in terms of your ATAR score?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 08, 2021, 01:20:15 pm
If you weren't getting good SAC scores in Unit 3, but you do really well in Unit 4, will that help in terms of your ATAR score?

Hey DPal! Thanks for the question, and welcome to ATAR Notes. :) Bit of a tough one to answer because what I'm about to say will probably sound a bit wishy-washy, but:

Yes, doing well in Unit 4 will help ATAR-wise irrespective of what you've achieved in Unit 3. And yes, you can still get a great ATAR (subjective though it is) even if you're not super happy with your SAC results through Unit 3.

There are many factors that all work together when it comes to ATAR calculation; things like subject competitiveness, cohort strength, and different assessment weightings all need to be taken into consideration, and this can make it a bit of a complicated process. As a result, it's really difficult to look just at results in isolation and provide an accurate ATAR estimate.

If you're interested, I wrote a thread a while ago called VCE Behind the Scenes: Moderation, Rankings, Scaling, Aggregates. This thread explains those concepts and how they can impact your ATAR, but knowing the behind-the-scenes stuff really isn't all that important.

At the end of the day, I recommend focusing on things you can change or have an impact over. What that's not is how you've performed on assessments that have already passed, and the technical ATAR calculation side of things. What that is is things like study methods, working out why you've dropped marks in previous SACs, and improving future performance. They're the things I'd try to focus on as much as possible. :)
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Rod on June 08, 2021, 06:55:34 pm
Hey man who will win Big Brother 2021?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 09, 2021, 08:16:39 am
Hey man who will win Big Brother 2021?

This one got me. 😂

I actually haven't watched a single second of it - I'll probably wait until about 2041 before I give it a crack. Are you watching?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Rod on June 09, 2021, 08:03:18 pm
This one got me. 😂

I actually haven't watched a single second of it - I'll probably wait until about 2041 before I give it a crack. Are you watching?
Hahhaha was just being random

In all seriousness, your Dees have gone so well this year. Did you go to any games before the lockdown? High hopes for the season? Really happy with how well they've gone, inspiring stuff!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 10, 2021, 08:39:33 am
Hahhaha was just being random

In all seriousness, your Dees have gone so well this year. Did you go to any games before the lockdown? High hopes for the season? Really happy with how well they've gone, inspiring stuff!

Yeah mate, still go to every game I can, pretty much. I've never seen Melbourne play like we are currently - football is almost enjoyable!
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: MedHopeful27 on June 10, 2021, 10:51:56 am
My apologies if this has already been asked but what did you find more difficult personally, obtaining an ATAR of 99+ or maintaining a High GPA at Uni?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 10, 2021, 11:34:13 am
My apologies if this has already been asked but what did you find more difficult personally, obtaining an ATAR of 99+ or maintaining a High GPA at Uni?

Good question, and I'm not really sure thinking about it now, to be honest. Some thoughts:

* I feel like high school was more competitive in a way, because I was surrounded by a lot of ATAR rhetoric, and there was unknowns like scaling and moderation etc. floating around. The ATAR is literally a ranking system, whereas I felt that was less the case at uni, so I guess uni was kinda easier on that front.

* At uni, I could sort of just do things my own way. Like I'd go to lectures if I wanted to, study by myself and completely anonymously - stuff like that I personally preferred.

* I'm not really sure how to compare time investment, because it's very different. I studied straight Arts, and I don't think my uni experience would necessarily be consistent with other people studying other things (or even other people studying the same things). For example, I had very few contact hours, which is completely different to a lot of uni courses. If I had to guess, I probably would have invested about equal effort into each.

* Socially, I found uni way harder initially (first year or two particularly), which isn't directly relevant to grades but is also very relevant in terms of the overall experience and motivation to study etc.

So to answer your question, I'm honesty not sure - even after thinking about it in some depth. They were just very different things for me, even though they're similar insofar as being related to studying and grades.

I'm sorry I couldn't give a more definitive answer! 😬
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: 2024289 on June 15, 2021, 07:47:36 am
Hi,
Just wondering what raw scores you got in your subjects to get such a high Atar. I'm feeling unsure about around what raw scores you would need to get in the above 99's. I know scaling does come into play but hearing yours would be interesting if you don't mind sharing.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on June 15, 2021, 10:51:14 am
Hi,
Just wondering what raw scores you got in your subjects to get such a high Atar. I'm feeling unsure about around what raw scores you would need to get in the above 99's. I know scaling does come into play but hearing yours would be interesting if you don't mind sharing.

Hey 2024289! Welcome to ATAR Notes - how's it going? :)

I guess the first thing to note is that I studied in Victoria (VCE), so my eventual subject/study scores were out of 50. That won't be the case for everybody reading.

The second thing to note is that I honestly can't remember my exact scores. It's very possible I've answered a similar question earlier in this thread, and the response I'm about to provide might even contradict that post - just for full transparency, the results I'll list below are based solely on my memory on this specific day, so might not be accurate.

The third thing to note is that my raw scores for SACs throughout the year don't really matter, and aren't all that relevant to you or anybody else going through VCE (or HSC, or QCE, or WACE, or whatever else). That's not to say they're of absolutely no interest, but you've touched on the concept of scaling - and things like that are really important. Ultimately, if I averaged 70% throughout the year for a subject, that's not necessarily the same as somebody else averaging 70% throughout the year at a different school, or in a different year. It's practically impossible to accurately compare raw results without further consideration for variables like school, rankings, cohort, eventual exam performance, and so on. I wrote a little bit about that here.

I guess what I'm trying to say is to please take the below with a big ol' grain of salt, because I honestly don't think my raw results mean much, or are even very useful as a guide. But in saying that:

→ HHD [raw study score 50]: I dropped some marks throughout the year but never too many in any given SAC. I'd estimate I was sitting on  about a 95% average.

→ Psych [raw study score 48]: probably more like 90-95%

→ Business Management [raw study score 48]: somewhere in the 85-95% range

→ Further Maths [raw study score 45]: maybe 85%-90%

→ English Language [raw study score 44]: maybe 85-90%

→ VCD [raw study score 44]: I was sitting on 100% - didn't drop any marks through SACs or internal coursework

But again, please note that these raw SAC marks don't mean too much in isolation! I really can't emphasise that enough, and I don't think there's a certain "cut off mark" for internal raw scores to be in line for a 99+ ATAR - for the reasons outlined above (and others).
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 23, 2022, 11:47:20 am
A 2022 bump! Happy to answer any other questions. 🥳
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Commercekid2050 on May 23, 2022, 02:32:27 pm
A 2022 bump! Happy to answer any other questions. 🥳

Hi Joseph,

Wanted to ask how was your university experience especially first year?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 23, 2022, 04:55:08 pm
Hi Joseph,

Wanted to ask how was your university experience especially first year?

Hey Commercekid2050! Thanks for your question.

It's very possible I've answered something similar to this in this thread before, but I'm going to answer again without going back to see what I said previously - hopefully that gives a better representation of my thoughts right now rather than what I thought or had reflected previously.

In total, my uni experience was fine, but it got progressively better as I went on, I think. In first year, I was really lost. I came off Year 12 where I was pretty diligent with how I studied, to a degree that only had like eight contact hours or something (I did straight Arts at uni). This was good in some ways because it provided flexibility and more freedom etc., but it also meant I had way, way more time where I had to decide what to do myself, rather than having it dictated by school bells and school periods and the like.

As a result, I didn't love first year uni. In fact, I recall I very nearly dropped out at some point in my first or second semester. I avoided people as much as possible and was just generally not in the best study (or general) headspace.

In second year and beyond, I started going to lectures more in person (I think I listened to as many as I could online in first year), and I found that that helped. I think I was probably just on campus more in general, which provided more structure and better differentiated study time from non-study time. And the further I went on, the more I enjoyed uni, because I sort of worked out which subjects I liked, and which subjects I didn't. I also just naturally become more familiar with uni processes and how it all worked, which is probably hard to fully appreciate until you're in it yourself (like a lot of things).

At the end of my third year, I applied for honours, and then had a year doing that. That was by far and away my favourite year of uni. I was also way more involved in things that year, doing volunteering stuff and getting a little bit (peripherally) involved with a society. I was just more engaged in general. I'm really glad I persisted with the whole uni thing and didn't drop out in my first year, like I wanted to.

Of course, this experience won't reflect everybody's uni experiences, and it's also probably a bit different because I had so few contact hours across my entire degree. I'm sure those who have studied at uni the last few years have different experiences with COVID stuff, too (I went back to uni for a Grad Cert in 2019-2020, but it was completely online anyway, and wasn't my first uni experience).

How are you finding it so far?
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Commercekid2050 on May 23, 2022, 05:18:48 pm
Hey Commercekid2050! Thanks for your question.

It's very possible I've answered something similar to this in this thread before, but I'm going to answer again without going back to see what I said previously - hopefully that gives a better representation of my thoughts right now rather than what I thought or had reflected previously.

In total, my uni experience was fine, but it got progressively better as I went on, I think. In first year, I was really lost. I came off Year 12 where I was pretty diligent with how I studied, to a degree that only had like eight contact hours or something (I did straight Arts at uni). This was good in some ways because it provided flexibility and more freedom etc., but it also meant I had way, way more time where I had to decide what to do myself, rather than having it dictated by school bells and school periods and the like.

As a result, I didn't love first year uni. In fact, I recall I very nearly dropped out at some point in my first or second semester. I avoided people as much as possible and was just generally not in the best study (or general) headspace.

In second year and beyond, I started going to lectures more in person (I think I listened to as many as I could online in first year), and I found that that helped. I think I was probably just on campus more in general, which provided more structure and better differentiated study time from non-study time. And the further I went on, the more I enjoyed uni, because I sort of worked out which subjects I liked, and which subjects I didn't. I also just naturally become more familiar with uni processes and how it all worked, which is probably hard to fully appreciate until you're in it yourself (like a lot of things).

At the end of my third year, I applied for honours, and then had a year doing that. That was by far and away my favourite year of uni. I was also way more involved in things that year, doing volunteering stuff and getting a little bit (peripherally) involved with a society. I was just more engaged in general. I'm really glad I persisted with the whole uni thing and didn't drop out in my first year, like I wanted to.

Of course, this experience won't reflect everybody's uni experiences, and it's also probably a bit different because I had so few contact hours across my entire degree. I'm sure those who have studied at uni the last few years have different experiences with COVID stuff, too (I went back to uni for a Grad Cert in 2019-2020, but it was completely online anyway, and wasn't my first uni experience).

How are you finding it so far?

Hi Joseph,

Thanks for your response. My uni experience till now has been pretty good. Though I am still adjusting to this new environment my first semester has been pretty good. Currently I am not able to participate too much on the events happening in uni but try to go to as many activities as I can.
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: TimeTraveller from 1899 on May 25, 2022, 10:27:53 pm
In your first post you explain how you would summarize a chapter of a textbook until you could condense all the information you needed on 1 page. How many pages was your first summary usually?
Also I noticed you got a 48 in Psychology which is quite an amazing achievement! Could you offer any study advice on the subject as I am doing it now.
Thanks you for taking your time and sharing so much it is extremely useful. :D
Title: Re: I received a 99+ ATAR and a perfect GPA - ask me anything.
Post by: Joseph41 on May 26, 2022, 09:05:02 am
In your first post you explain how you would summarize a chapter of a textbook until you could condense all the information you needed on 1 page. How many pages was your first summary usually?
Also I noticed you got a 48 in Psychology which is quite an amazing achievement! Could you offer any study advice on the subject as I am doing it now.
Thanks you for taking your time and sharing so much it is extremely useful. :D

Hey, TimeTraveller? What was 1899 like? ;D Thanks for your questions - I'm glad you've found the thread useful so far.

In your first post you explain how you would summarize a chapter of a textbook until you could condense all the information you needed on 1 page. How many pages was your first summary usually?
This varied a fair bit based on things like how big the chapter was that I was summarising in the first place, and how I was feeling on the day. As you probably know or have experienced yourself, studying is just straight up harder to get through on some days than others. On the days where I didn't feel in the "study zone" as much, my summaries were probably more waffly, less concise, and less clear - so the initial summaries were probably quite long. I'm hesitant to put an actual figure on it (like "oh, they were three pages!" or whatever), but I'd say maybe a paragraph or two per sub-section of the chapter? It's hard to say though because, as above, chapter lengths can vary quite drastically.

Overall, though, I don't think it's really the length of the summary that really counts - it's more the process. If you're actively thinking about which parts are the most important, how to write about things efficiently without going into unnecessary detail whilst still being clear, and how different parts of the course interlink, I think that's more important than hitting a predetermined length of summary.

Also I noticed you got a 48 in Psychology which is quite an amazing achievement! Could you offer any study advice on the subject as I am doing it now.
Thanks for that. The study design has changed a few times since I studied the subject, but below are some general things I found useful when studying Psych:

* Before the exam, make sure you're doing at least some questions/practice exams under timed conditions. From memory, it was a bit of a rush to get everything done in time, and I think I probably found an advantage just by virtue of finishing the exam (just - literally finished as the invigilator said "pens down"). Of course, you don't want to sacrifice quality of responses, so it's a bit of a trial and error thing to find out how quickly you need to write, and how much detail you can go into for any given question before moving on to the next.

* Stick to the study design. Psychology is such a massive area, and there's practically limitless information once you start digging through resources online and the like - but a fair chunk of that will be outside the scope of the study design. If we're specifically talking about getting a high study score in VCE Psych, I think it's inefficient to invest time into anything that isn't directly assessable. I'm sure I would have mentioned something similar earlier in this thread, but IMO the study design/syllabus is so underused when it comes to working out what you need to study. Through the year and before the exam, I recommend going through it quite meticulously to make sure you feel comfortable with each dot point. Sometimes, the exam can throw in something a bit left field, or it might use terminology that isn't commonly used in class/resources, but is explicitly mentioned in the study design. You don't want to lose marks just because you're not familiar with slightly different terminology and, therefore, don't understand what the question is asking.

I could have sworn I'd posted a guide to the subject on these forums, but I can't seem to find one. So instead, here are some threads you might find useful from other users (note that they may also be from previous study designs):

* ATAR Notes user "cookiedream": How I Got a Raw 48 in Psychology - Tips, Tricks and Regrets - March 2017
* ATAR Notes user "peter.g15": How I got a Raw 50 in Psych - October 2018
* ATAR Notes user "howey": Psychology Q&A with the ATAR Notes Psych Lecturer - April 2017

Let me know if any of that doesn't make sense, or if you have any other questions. :)