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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2013, 06:13:26 pm »
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I have been getting a B+ average this year in English, I am one of those kids that thinks I'll put in the effort come exam time  ::).

Can you lay out step by step how learn to write goodest with the time we have until exams pls

Well, not goodest. Definitely brush up on grammar and language skills if you have the time.

One common reason for an OK performance is lack of work and study. Figure out how to actually study for English. It is more than just writing essays. Basically, if you're unskilled you'll be unaware. The less you know, the more likely you won't be able to realise your own incompetence. Hence there are always students who expect higher grades when really, their teachers aren't marking harshly at all. One way to get ahead of the pack is to mark your own essays. Proofread then mark your work with a red pen - you can't ask anyone to confirm your plan or check your grammar during the exam. A lot of it comes down to your confidence.

To study: know texts inside out, write essays, do some exams, know your quotes, read the paper etc.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2013, 06:04:29 pm »
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This has been on my mind for quiet a while but do you have to write likes 1000+ words in section to score highly? Because its my weakest section and it isn't physically and mentally possible for me to produce such a feat.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2013, 06:43:23 pm »
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This has been on my mind for quiet a while but do you have to write likes 1000+ words in section to score highly? Because its my weakest section and it isn't physically and mentally possible for me to produce such a feat.

I would say yes, it is very difficult to achieve lot of depth in 800 or 900 words. Having said this, you might just be really concise and succinct in your writing. Best to get someone to mark your work and see whether the word count is adequate.

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2013, 07:30:23 pm »
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This has been on my mind for quiet a while but do you have to write likes 1000+ words in section to score highly? Because its my weakest section and it isn't physically and mentally possible for me to produce such a feat.

Oh I didn't even write section 2 oops!

I would say yes, it is very difficult to achieve lot of depth in 800 or 900 words. Having said this, you might just be really concise and succinct in your writing. Best to get someone to mark your work and see whether the word count is adequate.

Okay okay. Yes I do believe that I am succinct in writing and I try over writing to make up for this. can you elaborate into how I could increase my word count without affecting the overall quality of writing this is an area I struggle with.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2013, 08:59:30 pm »
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Oh I didn't even write section 2 oops!

Okay okay. Yes I do believe that I am succinct in writing and I try over writing to make up for this. can you elaborate into how I could increase my word count without affecting the overall quality of writing this is an area I struggle with.

Hmm... I'm a little confused by what you mean. Definitely don't force yourself to write more just for the sake of it. I can almost guarantee that most of it will be ramble and irrelevant material. You should look into discussing more quotes maybe, explaining ideas to a greater extent, etc...

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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2013, 01:33:33 am »
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I'm a little bit stuck on how the music is used in on the waterfront in an essay

and what does the horn from the ship signal (not when it covers terrys and edies voice)

If your question is “How is the music used in On the Waterfront?” then the answer to that is it entirely depends on the scene. Happy scenes will play cheery, relaxed music whilst shoot-em-up scene will have ominous high tempo brass playing. You can say the music is used for whatever purpose you like, so long as you can justify it. For example, you might think that the music is used to enhance the audience’s emotional investment in the film. Just add justification.

If your question is “How do I discuss it in an essay”, first, figure out why you are discussing music. Chances are, if you are bringing up the topic of music, you are getting into the elements of cinematography. Figure out what you want to say about the cinematography in the scene/event and why it’s relevant, then lay down your thoughts in a clear and concise way. Just like how you go about writing anything else.

Vague questions get vague answers, I’m here to help those who really actually want to be helped.

As for what the horn represents, my guess is as good as yours, so it all comes down to how well I can justify my interpretation over yours. It can mean whatever you want it to, so long  as you have a good / logical reason for your decision. The ship horn can signal many things, again, depending on which scene you are talking about, and it is used consistently as a leitmotif throughout the movie. Rewatch the movie and connect the dots. I can’t remember where and when it was used and after what plot-events, so I can’t say for certain.

yoyo i'm not a mod but i hope my opinion is welcome.

I think that the horn that is played repeatedly throughout the film is suggests that the waterfront is looming i.e it is always present in their day to day lives and holds a significant influence over both the longshoremen and the community.

I also think it suggests that the harsh reality of the waterfront is inescapable.

So long as you can justify it, it’s fair game. Why do you think that the horn symbolises this? What other evidence is there to suggest that this is true? How does it fit well into the other themes? These are questions you should be asking yourself.

Note: It is a pretty minor part of the film, so don’t stress, but if you have a well-substantiated theory as to why the horn is used in the film, then discuss it and receive marks!

Hi guys,
I was just looking for an opinion regarding language analysis.
Some people have recommended to me that I choose a formulaic style of writing where I essentially just insert snippets of the text into it, while others have recommended the opposite and said to cover a diverse range of techniques so as to not limit yourself.

What is your opinion on this, and what is your reasoning behind it?

Some people have recommended to me that I choose a formulaic style of writing where I essentially just insert snippets of the text into it is incredibly vague and I have no idea what you are talking about, but the second part you mentioned where you say “cover a diverse range of techniques so as not to limit yourself” sounded like a pretty safe bet.

Don’t fall into the trap of having to do it strictly according to any pre-defined structure. The point of Language Analysis is to:
a)   Identify the Author’s contention
b)   Identify and comment on the author’s use of persuasive techniques and mechanisms

You can do that in whatever way you want, you don’t have to follow any kind of structure. If you do that well, you’ll get good marks. I change the way I write my LA articles just about every time.

Once again, not to be mean, but you aren’t asking questions that make it very easy to help you.

Basically, the assessors will reward anything that they see to be good discussion of the persuasive mechanisms employed by the author. They don’t care whether you’ve followed Language Analysis Essay Structure Number 17b. If you are checking the boxes with what you’re doing, then great, no stress.

Hey I am not a moderator but I thought I may input my opinion here.

I would recommend going with a holistic approach and breaking the piece down to its core arguments, when it comes down to it, in commercial examinations and VCAA papers the analysis pieces are specifically structured to allow students to write a well-constructed piece of writing. My tip is cover a diverse range of techniques, rarely resort to just labeling, and if you do explain what it means, for example do not just say "This is alliteration.". Furthermore, embed sources of the article seamlessly into your piece of writing and make sure if relates to the argument you are discussing, for example "The idea of '....' draws readers into a sense of .... due to '...' and blah".

Don't limit yourself is really a key here, if you identify something break it down and analyse it. It is also very important that you dont neglect the image and weave it into your discussion of the given article/speech/presentation.

Good stuff.

On the topic of LA.. how many persuasive techniques should we analyse? I'm thinking about 15?

I just need a 5/10.

Don’t limit yourself. The more you analyse, and the better you analyse them, the higher your mark. No-one can give you a definitive answer to this question because whether or not you make your goal of 5/10 or not is dependent on how well you analyse those 15 things, not just the fact that you’re analysing 15.

Can’t really answer that once again.

^ I don't think that's the best way to go about an LA. There may not even be 15 persuasive techniques used in the article in the 1st place; in fact, it's very unlikely that there is, unless you try and hunt them down with a magnifying glass (but then again, this depends on the length of the article and other factors).

Naturally, you won't be able to analyse all the persuasive techniques in the article if you are planning on analysing them in great depth. However, if you are aiming for the "this is a rhetorical question and it was used to..." followed shortly by "this is inclusive language and it was used to..." followed by "the writer uses emotion here to...", where you pretty much spit out persuasive technique after persuasive technique at the examiner, then yes, you'd probably get through all the persuasive techniques used in the article. But you'd definitely not have enough quality in your paragraphs, and your essay would probably not be a decent length. I'm not even sure that this approach is going to net you a 5/10.

So basically, I think if you analyse as many as you can in the given amount of time, writing about 3-5 sentences on each point you bring in, it'd be a better approach. Sorry for the perceptive response, but I honestly don't think there's a straightforward answer to your question.

Yep.

I have been getting a B+ average this year in English, I am one of those kids that thinks I'll put in the effort come exam time  ::).

Can you lay out step by step how learn to write goodest with the time we have until exams pls

1.   Pick one text response text and read it, re-read it, then read a study guide. Then write practice essays on it.
2.   Download study notes for Language Analysis from the Notes section. Practice writing articles on old VCE papers hosted on the VCAA website.
3.   Write a couple of context essays and develop your ideas. If you are going to have a single essay and mould it to fit all of the prompts you can receive, rehearse it with as many prompts as you can in the Essay Prompts Megathread.

This has been on my mind for quiet a while but do you have to write likes 1000+ words in section to score highly? Because its my weakest section and it isn't physically and mentally possible for me to produce such a feat.

The assessors don’t count how many words you’ve written, which inherently makes this question invalid. The assessors give good pieces of work the high scores. So “What makes a good piece of work, and where does word count come into the picture?” should be your question. It’s pretty self-explanatory, but basically the people who are writing 1000+ words typically have a lot to say, and when people have a lot to say it generally means they’ve given it a lot of thought, and if they’ve given it a lot of thought it generally means it is going to score highly.

Writing a lot however comes secondary to having good ideas to write about in the first place. Basically, if you’re talking shit, then 1000 words is only going to make the problem worse. Your writing needs to be of good quality first, then the more of it there is, the better.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2013, 08:32:14 am »
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Wow that was one big reply, VivaTequila

You keep talking about essays 'filling in boxes' and the assessors giving you marks if you meet those criteria, are we talking about the criteria from the VCAA website? http://www.vcaa.vic.edu.au/Documents/exams/english/2009Eng-crit-descriptors-V2.pdf (from the english page)

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2013, 10:02:49 am »
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Thanks Viva!
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2013, 09:55:33 pm »
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Viva just a few questions about themes in OTW.
Firstly, what themes are popularly discussed in exam prompts? Eg. Terry's journey, conscience, loyalty, power, etc.
How would one integrate quotes into an essay to make it flow nice, and will we lose marks if our quotes are incorrect?
In regards to film techniques, how would you describe it in relation to the prompt given? Would you say something like "the camera shot from above accentuates the notion that Terry is vulnerable, thus showing the mob's power..."?
There are alot of schools doing OTW, how do you differentiate yourself from the pack?
Are there any other pointers you have?
Sorry, I tried not to be vague but I think I did the opposite ahaha
Thanks in advance
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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2013, 12:22:12 am »
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I have a quick question.
If the 'Identify And Belonging' prompt is about relationships, can we discuss other ideas such as memories and age?
I've asked a few people this, would just like triple reassurance!

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2013, 12:51:20 am »
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I have a quick question.
If the 'Identify And Belonging' prompt is about relationships, can we discuss other ideas such as memories and age?
I've asked a few people this, would just like triple reassurance!

I would say no unless you explicitly link it to relationships.
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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2013, 01:53:09 am »
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I have a quick question.
If the 'Identify And Belonging' prompt is about relationships, can we discuss other ideas such as memories and age?
I've asked a few people this, would just like triple reassurance!

Short answer - no.

You must write an essay on that particular prompt on relationships. Two ways to do it - 3 paragraphs on 3 types of relationships, or 3 paragraphs on 3 reasons as to why relationships _______ (whatever the prompt is saying). Memories and age seem very unrelated.

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2013, 06:10:22 pm »
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Hey I need some help planning an essay for context that I'm having trouble with, and I was wondering if you guys could give me some assistance.  The text I'm studying is Life Of Galileo, and the prompt is:

'In situations of conflict there are no clear winners'.

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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2013, 05:42:48 pm »
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Hi all you experts haha, for context Identity and belonging , i am writing on Growing Up Asian In Australia, I calculated all my essay scores and they average 60% so i think i am a C grade student which is not what i want come exam time,

My teacher has always taught me 70% ideas 30% explore the book, does this 30% mean i can turn into a text response with quotes. i freakin hate english lol it will haunt me for these last two months.

is it really just as easy as looking at the prompt and constructing an arguement of agree with it and why i do not agree with it? and then explain why in the intro and through my body paragraphs. it's just annoying when i go to sit down and write for english and it wastes my time,

 im always just looking at a piece of paper constantly thinking of indentity is this and results in this, whereas belonging is this and some cannot make it because of these factors.

I have looked at the thread below this one on section B, but i still cannot construct a proper essay where i feel YES I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING. i have a trial exam on english on wednesday so im going to try and read 3 stories of growing up asian in australia lol.

thank you for reading my essay lol

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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2013, 08:09:41 pm »
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For both of your questions, I would strongly suggest you look at every single context resource on the notes section of the form, and also my resources website.