UoM - Inferrior in engineering?

[bucket]

I heard that compared to other unis, engineering and Melbourne suckssxxx.
Is this true? If it is, how so?!
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[Flaming_Arrow]

not really, there are lot of rumours around saying melb uni is too theory based but i don't think that's true

[BA22]

I think you'll find he's being facetious

[bucket]

Still, I'm serious, the lower enter required to get into an engineering course at melbourne compared to the requirement for monash is appealing, however these 'rumours' are making me think twice about where I place it in my preferences.

[Ken]

doesnt matter which uni u go to, u still learn the same thing and end up in the same position

[costargh]

doesnt matter which uni u go to, u still learn the same thing and end up in the same position

Worse advice someone has ever given on VN.

[Ken]

then why do uni's offer the same course?

[costargh]

They aren't the same course. They have the same course name. The subjects which comprise each course differ. What you learn at one Uni may be quite differnt from another Uni. The teaching standards would almost certainly be differnt depending on which Uni you went. Employers care about what Uni you went to and what marks you got in your course, otherwise people wouldnt give a shit which Uni they went to.

/end rant
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[Ken]

i've got a cousin that goes to melb uni and is currently doing 1st year engineering. I asked him about it being too theory based or not and he said that this year's course has changed and so he can't really tell from being a first year student.

[Collin Li]

I'm a 2nd year student and I don't think it's "too theory based." In reality, what you do in university, regardless of how "practical" it is, isn't likely to be what you'll actually be using in your future career. Technology advances so fast. It's much better to have theory (the ideas behind fishing) than merely knowing how to use the current technology (how to use the fishing rod), for in an ever-upgrading world, who knows what they'll be using tomorrow?

Nothing is more practical than most good theories . That's my opinion anyway.

[excal]

I'm a 2nd year student and I don't think it's "too theory based." In reality, what you do in university, regardless of how "practical" it is, isn't likely to be what you'll actually be using in your future career. Technology advances so fast. It's much better to have theory (the ideas behind fishing) than merely knowing how to use the current technology (how to use the fishing rod), for in an ever-upgrading world, who knows what they'll be using tomorrow?

Nothing is more practical than most good theories . That's my opinion anyway.

Studying a technology degree, I couldn't agree more.

[AppleXY]

I'm a 2nd year student and I don't think it's "too theory based." In reality, what you do in university, regardless of how "practical" it is, isn't likely to be what you'll actually be using in your future career. Technology advances so fast. It's much better to have theory (the ideas behind fishing) than merely knowing how to use the current technology (how to use the fishing rod), for in an ever-upgrading world, who knows what they'll be using tomorrow?

Nothing is more practical than most good theories . That's my opinion anyway.

Yeah, that's exactly what Prof. Paul Kofman said in his Finance information session at Open Day. Instead of teaching how to operate today's equipment, the University teaches the theory and foundations behind it, meaning that you can operate today's and tommorrow's equipment.

[Collin Li]

The important question that follows is: do other universities fall in the trap of choosing the opposite? I'm pretty sure RMIT does. I've heard they're all about computer software packages and hardly do/understand any of the maths.

[ell]

I'm a 2nd year student and I don't think it's "too theory based." In reality, what you do in university, regardless of how "practical" it is, isn't likely to be what you'll actually be using in your future career. Technology advances so fast. It's much better to have theory (the ideas behind fishing) than merely knowing how to use the current technology (how to use the fishing rod), for in an ever-upgrading world, who knows what they'll be using tomorrow?

Nothing is more practical than most good theories . That's my opinion anyway.

That's a good point. Although I think people should steer clear of UoM if they want to pursue something in IT. IMO the theory there is largely irrelevant (see UoM vs. RMIT software engineering course structure). I'm not too sure on other unis.

[Collin Li]

Yeah, that's a valid criticism, and IT at Melbourne is quite bad, I hear.