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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2640 on: August 19, 2017, 09:53:08 pm »
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Hi!  :)
I was just wondering what would be the correct extended response answer to the following dot point in the option topic Quanta to Quarks?
Dot point 2.4: Explain the stability of the electron orbits in the Bohr atom using de Broglie's hypothesis.

What would be the main issues i need to raise?



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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2641 on: August 19, 2017, 10:57:00 pm »
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Hi!  :)
I was just wondering what would be the correct extended response answer to the following dot point in the option topic Quanta to Quarks?
Dot point 2.4: Explain the stability of the electron orbits in the Bohr atom using de Broglie's hypothesis.

What would be the main issues i need to raise?

Thanks!

Hello! :))
So, de Broglie proposed that all moving particles have wave properties, with wavelength given by \(\lambda=\frac{h}{mv}\). He suggested that electrons must exist in orbits made of an integer number of wavelengths of the moving electrons (\(2\pi r = n\lambda \)) so that they would form standing waves - these don't propagate and are therefore stable and will not lose energy. If electron orbits contained a non-integer number of wavelengths, the electrons would destructively interfere with each other and lose energy. Hence de Broglie's hypothesis was able to provide a quantum explanation of the stability of electron orbits in Bohr's atomic model.

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2642 on: August 19, 2017, 11:46:03 pm »
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Hello! :))
So, de Broglie proposed that all moving particles have wave properties, with wavelength given by \(\lambda=\frac{h}{mv}\). He suggested that electrons must exist in orbits made of an integer number of wavelengths of the moving electrons (\(2\pi r = n\lambda \)) so that they would form standing waves - these don't propagate and are therefore stable and will not lose energy. If electron orbits contained a non-integer number of wavelengths, the electrons would destructively interfere with each other and lose energy. Hence de Broglie's hypothesis was able to provide a quantum explanation of the stability of electron orbits in Bohr's atomic model.

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Thanks so much for the info! :D
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2643 on: August 20, 2017, 10:25:46 am »
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In projectile motion, if we find, say, the initial horizontal velocity in the first part of the question and round it up, do we use that value to find other values? Or do we use the unrounded value?

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2644 on: August 20, 2017, 10:38:26 am »
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In projectile motion, if we find, say, the initial horizontal velocity in the first part of the question and round it up, do we use that value to find other values? Or do we use the unrounded value?
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2645 on: August 20, 2017, 11:02:24 am »
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In projectile motion, if we find, say, the initial horizontal velocity in the first part of the question and round it up, do we use that value to find other values? Or do we use the unrounded value?

You'd be marked correctly for both (I'd wager), but if it is easy to use the unrounded value, use it. Otherwise, take a few extra decimal places. If they ask to find a rounded value in Part (a), you can use the rounded value in Parts (b), (c) etc (for example) ;D

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2646 on: August 21, 2017, 10:57:14 pm »
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This question is driving me insane.  ;D
Apparently the answer is A but I don't see how.
Isn't A moving in a clockwise direction??, isn't the left side a south pole and the right side a north pole, according to the right hand rule?



Any help would be great!
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2647 on: August 21, 2017, 11:01:34 pm »
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This question is driving me insane.  ;D
Apparently the answer is A but I don't see how.
Isn't A moving in a clockwise direction??, isn't the left side a south pole and the right side a north pole, according to the right hand rule?

Any help would be great!
Thanks  :)

You are right about the polarity of the magnetic field, but watch the current, it goes in the opposite side - The right hand side of the coil has current going upwards (into the page?), use the right hand slap rule and you will get anti-clockwise! :)

Would you have picked another option? Will do my best to explain over text, aha ;D

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2648 on: August 21, 2017, 11:27:39 pm »
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You are right about the polarity of the magnetic field, but watch the current, it goes in the opposite side - The right hand side of the coil has current going upwards (into the page?), use the right hand slap rule and you will get anti-clockwise! :)

Would you have picked another option? Will do my best to explain over text, aha ;D
Ohhhhhh....
I was using my right hand palm rule wrong...... I didn't point my fingers in the direction of the field, I was pointing towards the North pole........
I probably shouldn't be studying for trials this late at night hahaha ;D
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2649 on: August 22, 2017, 02:41:01 pm »
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Hey can someone please tell me how to find the length in part b of this question so that i can do


t = fd = mgl  to get to my answer. Thanks :)
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2650 on: August 22, 2017, 03:31:34 pm »
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Hey can someone please tell me how to find the length in part b of this question so that i can do


t = fd = mgl  to get to my answer. Thanks :)

I think it's 0.1m (the radius of the pulley) because the force is applied at the circumference, not 100% sure though!
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2651 on: August 22, 2017, 04:32:45 pm »
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I think it's 0.1m (the radius of the pulley) because the force is applied at the circumference, not 100% sure though!

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2652 on: August 23, 2017, 12:43:41 am »
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I think it's 0.1m (the radius of the pulley) because the force is applied at the circumference, not 100% sure though!

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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2653 on: August 23, 2017, 06:31:29 pm »
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Hey,
I'm stuck on question B from the physics textbook. I continue to try and find where I am wrong because my answer is never the one they have in the book, if someone can have a crack at it and validate my answer.
Thanks  :) :) :)
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Re: Physics Question Thread
« Reply #2654 on: August 23, 2017, 10:04:24 pm »
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Hey,
I'm stuck on question B from the physics textbook. I continue to try and find where I am wrong because my answer is never the one they have in the book, if someone can have a crack at it and validate my answer.
Thanks  :) :) :)




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