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Title: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on September 17, 2008, 11:50:29 pm
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Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on September 18, 2008, 10:04:35 pm
Are police questioning, searches, arrests etc. all part of criminal pre-trial procedures? I always seem to use committal or directions hearings, but I was just wondering if I can use this as well? I could imagine a question like this as a 10 mark question in the near distant future. :(
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: hard on September 19, 2008, 12:42:45 am
Are police questioning, searches, arrests etc. all part of criminal pre-trial procedures? I always seem to use committal or directions hearings, but I was just wondering if I can use this as well? I could imagine a question like this as a 10 mark question in the near distant future. :(

yes it is a pre-trial but no way would it be a 10 marker
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on September 19, 2008, 03:59:42 pm
Last year was the first year they had a 10 marker on juries so anything is possible. There's quite a bit of meat in pre-trial procedures
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on September 19, 2008, 10:25:53 pm
That would be a nightmare come true... The only part of the course which my mind wonders, and it is a 10 mark question. :P
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: Golfa on September 21, 2008, 08:15:48 pm
just had a quick look over it....seems there are ALOT of 2-4 mark questions which is a bit different to other exams i've come across.
Other then that looks good- hope to god there will be a 10 mark adversary question on the final exam- love em!  :D
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on September 23, 2008, 06:48:37 pm
Hehe, I hope there is one on the Jury system or Doctrine of Precedent! I love exams!
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: misskaraleah on September 24, 2008, 07:22:04 pm
just had a quick look over it....seems there are ALOT of 2-4 mark questions which is a bit different to other exams i've come across.
Other then that looks good- hope to god there will be a 10 mark adversary question on the final exam- love em!  :D

ME TOO. I think the adversary system was the most straightforward thing we learnt this year in legal.
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on September 24, 2008, 07:38:46 pm
Lol yeh there are quite a few 2 mark questions haha.

It's good practise though to expect the unexpected. :P
However, don't get fooled on the 2 markers and make sure you explain everything fully and read the questions carefully.
There are though, the 2 + 2 + 2 questions which were broken up to test as much of the course as possible :)
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on October 05, 2008, 07:43:27 pm
Anyone done it? :)
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: hard on October 31, 2008, 08:18:50 pm
amm i've done 3/4 of it quite easily except for one section. Something about a supreme court where it says explain two ways in which a judge can avoid which was worth 2 marks i think. I said reverse but i was thinking overruling or distinguishing for the other mark however that did not really suit.

what did you put down if you know what the hell i'm on about?
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on October 31, 2008, 09:08:31 pm
ill check my and fyreflys discussion about that question and get back 2 u
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on October 31, 2008, 09:16:51 pm
I cant find the emails that we had that had some of the discussion on the acceptable  answers to thsat question. perhaps PM Fyrefly and ask her if she has the PMs that we had or the documents that had discussion on that question and the accptable answers.
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: hard on October 31, 2008, 10:33:56 pm
oh okay i might do that... but would you know like just generally doesn't have to be the full answer?
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on October 31, 2008, 10:49:50 pm
Their was some complicated discussion so I dont know off the top of my head.
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: hard on October 31, 2008, 11:13:56 pm
Their was some complicated discussion so I dont know off the top of my head.


hope you did well in english :P (their) jkz

amm was that one of the harder questions or...?
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: costargh on October 31, 2008, 11:16:40 pm
Well, I think from memory there was only two acceptable answers because of the wording of the question. Howveer not sure.
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: vcealmostover on November 08, 2008, 05:51:48 pm
Is anyone willing to share there answer on question 4.
 
a) What is the difference between a specific and an exclusive power???



b) And for part b would you use the fact that the COmmonwelath cannot legislate on areas such as religion as the restriction. Or would you use the fact that they cannot legislate on residual powers?

Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: vce08 on November 08, 2008, 06:02:21 pm
specific powers are those which are outlined in s51 and outline the areas in which the commonwealth can legislate in. these include both concurrent and exclusive powers
Exclusive powers are those specific powers outlined in s 51 which can only be exercised by the commonwealth,e.g coining and raising military forces s114,115
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: Eliseblack on November 08, 2008, 07:21:52 pm
exclusive powers are made exclusive by other sections of the constitution.
section 51 says commonwealth can coin money, s115 says the states can not..
Title: Re: VCENotes Legal Studies Trial Exam 2008 Discussion Thread
Post by: xox.happy1.xox on November 08, 2008, 09:26:19 pm
... They were usually left to the Commonwealth, as they are needed in those specialised areas, which may seem too complex for the states to comprehend, and need more clarification on.