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« Reply #210 on: July 18, 2017, 09:41:23 pm »
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Hi just a question r.e Romanticism essay. Currently I am looking at Frankenstein by Shelley, Lime Tree Bower and Ancient Mariner by Coleridge and Chimney Sweep by Blake. Any suggestions for my 2nd ORT? I recently heard in your essay it is best to show the internal conflicts within the movement itself. For example, so far, in Frankenstein and Ancient Mariner I discuss the Romantic emphasis on idealism and how both texts explore the dangers if man's ambitions (idealism) go too far. I also go into the restorative and destructive powers of nature. In Lime Tree Bower I discuss the transformative powers of the imagination in nature while in Chimney Sweep I look into the proclamation of the individual and childhood as an innocent state free of society's corruption. Is there any ORTS you guys could suggest which either reflect the danger of individualism or any aspect of Romanticism I have not yet touched on.
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Looks like your essay atm is male centric. Perhaps look for a female composer to make sure you're covering the full breadth of Romanticism. Wuthering Heights is fantastic, but very very long. My Last Duchess by Browning is written by a male, but definitely explores the exploitation of women for the sake of 'art' in the period. 
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« Reply #211 on: July 18, 2017, 09:43:41 pm »
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Looks like your essay atm is male centric. Perhaps look for a female composer to make sure you're covering the full breadth of Romanticism. Wuthering Heights is fantastic, but very very long. My Last Duchess by Browning is written by a male, but definitely explores the exploitation of women for the sake of 'art' in the period.

Interesting take thanks :) although Frankenstein is by Mary Shelley in case you may have got confused with percy shelley haha
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« Reply #212 on: July 18, 2017, 10:00:42 pm »
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Interesting take thanks :) although Frankenstein is by Mary Shelley in case you may have got confused with percy shelley haha

No no, not confused. Just that she still writes using a male protagonist, and females are largely absent from the plot line. Whilst this is the basis for a large amount of feminist critique on the text in and of itself, it would still be beneficial to have an actual female voice within your work.
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« Reply #213 on: July 18, 2017, 10:04:41 pm »
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No no, not confused. Just that she still writes using a male protagonist, and females are largely absent from the plot line. Whilst this is the basis for a large amount of feminist critique on the text in and of itself, it would still be beneficial to have an actual female voice within your work.

Oh okay that makes sense, could I ask you how you studied for the analytical side of Extension ie. did you have one base essay which you took into the exam and adpated to the question?
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« Reply #214 on: July 18, 2017, 10:08:48 pm »
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Oh okay that makes sense, could I ask you how you studied for the analytical side of Extension ie. did you have one base essay which you took into the exam and adpated to the question?

No I didn't. I basically had quotes that covered all parts of the syllabus, and wrote paragraphs based on such dot points. In the exam, I would pick the dot points that worked the best and write those. However, sometimes I felt like I needed to approach extension with a greater amount of originality, and so, would throw the dot points out the window. I can say that I had a fantastic contextual understanding of the period though, and as you said before, always debated intricacies within my essays. Once again, that may be why a female voice is important to your piece
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« Reply #215 on: July 18, 2017, 10:43:22 pm »
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No I didn't. I basically had quotes that covered all parts of the syllabus, and wrote paragraphs based on such dot points. In the exam, I would pick the dot points that worked the best and write those. However, sometimes I felt like I needed to approach extension with a greater amount of originality, and so, would throw the dot points out the window. I can say that I had a fantastic contextual understanding of the period though, and as you said before, always debated intricacies within my essays. Once again, that may be why a female voice is important to your piece

haha sounds really interesting :) what do you mean by throw the dot points out the window and debating intricacies - I am trying to show the conflict within the Romantic way of thinking eg. both the potential good and danger of the overreacher in frankenstein for instance. also how much of your essay should be contextual and how much textual references? sorry for the questions you just really seem to have a great understanding which would help me so much! And just quickly as well, by the syllabus dot points, did you mean this stuff:

Module B: Texts and Ways of Thinking
This module requires students to explore and evaluate a selection of texts relating to a
particular historical period. It develops their understanding of the ways in which scientific,
religious, philosophical or economic paradigms have shaped and are reflected in literature
and other texts.
Each elective in this module involves the study of at least two print texts, relating to a
particular historical period, that demonstrate the influence of particular ways of thinking on
literary and other texts. In addition, students explore, analyse and critically evaluate a range
of other texts that reflect these ideas.
Students explore the ways that values are inscribed in particular texts and how they are
reflected by texts. They consider whether and why texts are valued in their own time. They
also consider why and by whom those texts are valued today.

English Stage 6 Syllabus – Extension
Students develop a range of imaginative, interpretive and analytical compositions, including
some which explore the effects of particular paradigms for a range of audiences. These
compositions may be realised in various forms, modes and media. Students investigate
topics and ideas, engage in independent learning activities and develop skills in extended
composition.
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Re: English Extension 1 Question Thread
« Reply #216 on: July 20, 2017, 09:08:03 am »
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hey I had a question about one of my related for Mod B: After the bomb. So currently, I'm using the 1959 Kitchen Debate as a related to pair with Plath. I thought it worked really well as I could talk about disillusioned female roles but also the thematic themes of the 'modern' kitchen. However, i've had so many mixed opinions about using that text as "its non fiction from 1959" saying that it doesn't really reflect the changing thoughts of the time period. I was wondering if you had any advice about using it or not?

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Re: English Extension 1 Question Thread
« Reply #217 on: July 20, 2017, 11:00:23 am »
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hey I had a question about one of my related for Mod B: After the bomb. So currently, I'm using the 1959 Kitchen Debate as a related to pair with Plath. I thought it worked really well as I could talk about disillusioned female roles but also the thematic themes of the 'modern' kitchen. However, i've had so many mixed opinions about using that text as "its non fiction from 1959" saying that it doesn't really reflect the changing thoughts of the time period. I was wondering if you had any advice about using it or not?

Cheers,

Hey Ash! I used the Kitchen Debate as a related text for my HSC and I never had any qualms or advice against it. I think the text fully reflects the ways of thinking of the period: capitalism, socialism, women, men, powerful, powerless, technological advancement, national competition, etc. I think the text is full of ways of thinking, I don't think you're disadvantaged because it's a non fiction text :) You can download my essay here if you want to see how I used it :)
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« Reply #218 on: July 20, 2017, 10:59:01 pm »
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Hey - the first essay I'm ever going to write for Extension 1 will actually be my trial and I have no idea how to do it.

Skimming over some past trials, I see they request 2 prescribed and 2 related. How would I organise the structure of my essay? Would you happen to have a sample essay scaffold?

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« Reply #219 on: July 22, 2017, 12:01:45 am »
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Hi!

I'm doing After the bomb for English Extension 1 and my trials begin in two weeks. My core texts are the Spy who came in from the cold (novel) and Waiting for Godot (absurdist play). My chosen related texts are a French modernist film called Hiroshima Mon Amour and an American documentary film Hearts and Minds. However, I have been advised by my teacher that it is not recommended to do two film forms within our related text selection. Is that true? If so, would you advise that I change one of my related's or keep them as is? In terms of composition they're entirely different but I would really appreciate your opinion. I'm a little apprehensive to change with trials coming up.

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« Reply #220 on: July 23, 2017, 02:17:54 pm »
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Hi!

I'm doing After the bomb for English Extension 1 and my trials begin in two weeks. My core texts are the Spy who came in from the cold (novel) and Waiting for Godot (absurdist play). My chosen related texts are a French modernist film called Hiroshima Mon Amour and an American documentary film Hearts and Minds. However, I have been advised by my teacher that it is not recommended to do two film forms within our related text selection. Is that true? If so, would you advise that I change one of my related's or keep them as is? In terms of composition they're entirely different but I would really appreciate your opinion. I'm a little apprehensive to change with trials coming up.

Thanks! :)

Hey, good question.

I too am doing the After the Bomb elective and I'll have to concur with your teacher. You have to remember structure and form are just as important in this elective as is the content explored. This is because the post-WWII period entailed a deviation in traditional literary forms and if you do two films, you can't explore the impact it had on literary mediums such as poetry, picture books, short stories, etc...

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« Reply #221 on: July 24, 2017, 05:15:19 pm »
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I'm doing After the bomb for English Extension 1 and my trials begin in two weeks. My core texts are the Spy who came in from the cold (novel) and Waiting for Godot (absurdist play). My chosen related texts are a French modernist film called Hiroshima Mon Amour and an American documentary film Hearts and Minds. However, I have been advised by my teacher that it is not recommended to do two film forms within our related text selection. Is that true? If so, would you advise that I change one of my related's or keep them as is? In terms of composition they're entirely different but I would really appreciate your opinion. I'm a little apprehensive to change with trials coming up.

Thanks! :)
Hey mersinah, I know a lot of students believe, or have been told, to not do the same text type for your related text in order to show some variety. Perhaps this holds water, but I was certainly never warned against it. In saying that, I never did double on the same text type anyway. But it was never something I was advised, and it's not something I've been able to find with weight from NESA. So, follow your teachers directions even if just for the internal assessments, I suggest! Also, I could never get my hands on Hiroshima Mon Amour. Where did you get it? I'd love to watch it!
Hey - the first essay I'm ever going to write for Extension 1 will actually be my trial and I have no idea how to do it.

Skimming over some past trials, I see they request 2 prescribed and 2 related. How would I organise the structure of my essay? Would you happen to have a sample essay scaffold?

Thanks guys.

Hey there! Well, firstly I'll link you to a deconstruction of my own essay here which was for ATB! Funnily enough, I used this guide when I wrote my Extension 1 essay! It was one of the only guides on ATAR Notes at the time for HSC and I find it very helpful. So there's two examples of how to structure! :)
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« Reply #222 on: July 26, 2017, 09:30:54 pm »
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Hey, I was just wondering what you guys recommend for structuring an Extension essay. I'm doing Romanticism and some guys structure them by the 4 paradigms (imagination, individual, idealism, nature) and interlink all the texts. I personally would find this quite difficult and a bit too jumpy and prefer to do it 1 paragraph = 1 text etc. and discuss the paradigms throughout. If i do that should i still intertextualise or is the 1st option better?
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« Reply #223 on: July 26, 2017, 10:26:22 pm »
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Hiya!

So, I'm not much of  creative writer - I'm more analytical - and I am struggling to write a Romanticism creative piece. Are there any ideas that someone could give me to maybe start me off ? Help would be super appreciated!

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« Reply #224 on: July 26, 2017, 10:29:36 pm »
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Hiya!

So, I'm not much of  creative writer - I'm more analytical - and I am struggling to write a Romanticism creative piece. Are there any ideas that someone could give me to maybe start me off ? Help would be super appreciated!

Thanks!

I don't have much either but I would suggest looking into the context/history of the period and finding little examples that could make interesting stories eg. the Peterloo massacre :)
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