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Title: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on September 25, 2021, 12:46:52 am
Hullo again!

Since we have limited time in our lecture for me to read through all your wonderful thesis writing, this is the thread to copy yours into if you would like feedback! Also feel free to ask any questions about 1984, clarify any areas of confusion from the lecture or just leave your Two Minute Hate for HSC English in the comments - with the year you've had it's definitely justified!

Look forward to seeing your thesis work!

UPDATE: Notes attached to this thread :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: chaevely_park on September 26, 2021, 01:40:48 pm
Hello!

I was wondering if you have any recommendations for good related texts for 1984?

Thank you :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Girisha on September 30, 2021, 11:48:30 am
George Orwell's dystopian narrative Nineteen Eighty Four skilfully demonstrates the role of oppressive, totalitarian governments on the fabrication of the human experience to induce loneliness. The repression of individuality, relationships and privacy induces isolation within both the individual and the society as a collective, causing the audience to reflect upon their own context and reconsider the necessary components that contribute to the fulfilling human experience. Orwell's creation of the overbearing, restrictive "Party" and their  manipulation of the human experience and elimination of concepts such as language, identity and culture induce extreme isolation, serving as a cautionary tale for future generations.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: aidosss on September 30, 2021, 11:51:18 am
To what extent does the exploration of human experience in Nineteen Eighty-Four invite you to reconsider your understanding of loneliness?

Composers create stories to effectively reveal both the personal and shared nature of human experiences and the qualities, motivations and emotions arising from these experiences. George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel 1984 is a didactic warning against totalitarian dictatorship, making his audience aware of the extreme loneliness that can be inflicted upon individuals when the key human values of individuality and freedom are taken away from us.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: S_ann on September 30, 2021, 11:53:46 am
Hi!
I was wondering... should our thesis be an argument that is *this leads to this leads to this* or just an overarching statement? Also, should our essay be in chronological order or just chronological within the body paragraph? I'm confused about how we could write a chronological essay with thematic paragraphs.
Thank you :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: S_ann on September 30, 2021, 11:59:51 am
If possible, can you please check this thesis? Thank you so much :)
Practice thesis: To What Extent Does the Exploration of Human Experiences in 1984 Invite you to Reconsider your Understanding of Loneliness?
Individuals desire fulfilling relationships so, when they are subjugated and therefore isolated, they will search for basic liberties and connections, rebelling against the loneliness of a totalitarian world, however, the need to escape loneliness is inevitably overridden by fear of the authority.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Emily Adams on September 30, 2021, 12:01:41 pm
Hey Niahm!

I'm feeling really behind with English quote banks and have been trying to find that one on the forum you made. Is there any way that you can link where it is or the specific name?

Thanks in advance,
Emily :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: crippledbyenglish on September 30, 2021, 12:05:34 pm
The dynamic between society and the individual has been epitomised as 'solitude is impracticable and society fatal' (Waldo, 1870). George Orwell's dystopian fiction '1984' (1949) invites the reader to reconsider their perspective of loneliness as inherently negative through exploration of the individual's paradoxical reliance on yet conflict with society. Through Winston, Orwell conveys that despite the non-conformist's desire for intimate connection with both others and the self, the manipulation and subversion of this longing can be employed to obliterate individual autonomy, identity, and relationship. Thus, the text effectively serves as a cautionary tale regarding the dangerous implications of a controlling, totalitarian society, awakening its audience to the complexity and fragility of human experience.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: damn on September 30, 2021, 12:14:00 pm
I was wondering if a one sentence thesis would be sufficient in my introduction (wrote up a quick one below). Also, do you recommend fleshing out the ideas/themes (providing one sentence on each) in the intro, or just listing the themes?

To what extent does the exploration of human experience in Nineteen Eighty-Four invite you to reconsider your understanding of loneliness?

In his cautionary tale ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’, Orwell challenges readers to explore the suppression of individual autonomy within totalitarian regimes thereby, establishing a sense of alienation which inherently corrupts the human experience.

Cheers,
Winston Smith
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 12:43:58 pm
Hello!

I was wondering if you have any recommendations for good related texts for 1984?

Thank you :)

Hey!

For 1984 you have a few options depending on your approach your essay/assignment. If you want to focus on exploring state control and the dystopian genre you have a few options

Also consider investigating dystopian short stories if that's what interests you but you can't commit to reading a whole novel.

If you're interested in exploring more Orwell's depiction of language and the role of storytelling you can also have a look at these options, which are less concerned with oppressive power:
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 12:56:33 pm
George Orwell's dystopian narrative Nineteen Eighty Four skilfully demonstrates the role of oppressive, totalitarian governments on the fabrication of the human experience to induce loneliness. The repression of individuality, relationships and privacy induces isolation within both the individual and the society as a collective, causing the audience to reflect upon their own context and reconsider the necessary components that contribute to the fulfilling human experience. Orwell's creation of the overbearing, restrictive "Party" and their  manipulation of the human experience and elimination of concepts such as language, identity and culture induce extreme isolation, serving as a cautionary tale for future generations.

Hey there! This is a strong intro that deals with the key concepts of the questions well. See below for feedback:

Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 12:58:08 pm
Hey Niahm!

I'm feeling really behind with English quote banks and have been trying to find that one on the forum you made. Is there any way that you can link where it is or the specific name?

Thanks in advance,
Emily :)

Hi Emily,

There seems to be a bit of a delay on the forum so I have attached the quotes table to this forum :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 06:42:50 pm
To what extent does the exploration of human experience in Nineteen Eighty-Four invite you to reconsider your understanding of loneliness?

Composers create stories to effectively reveal both the personal and shared nature of human experiences and the qualities, motivations and emotions arising from these experiences. George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel 1984 is a didactic warning against totalitarian dictatorship, making his audience aware of the extreme loneliness that can be inflicted upon individuals when the key human values of individuality and freedom are taken away from us.

Good response! A couple of points below:

Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 06:49:57 pm
If possible, can you please check this thesis? Thank you so much :)
Practice thesis: To What Extent Does the Exploration of Human Experiences in 1984 Invite you to Reconsider your Understanding of Loneliness?
Individuals desire fulfilling relationships so, when they are subjugated and therefore isolated, they will search for basic liberties through connections, rebelling against the loneliness of a totalitarian world, however, the need to escape loneliness is inevitably overridden by fear of the authority.


Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 07:02:20 pm
The dynamic between society and the individual has been epitomised (word choice? e.g. expressed, summarised, articulated) as 'solitude is impracticable and society fatal' (Waldo, 1870). George Orwell's dystopian fiction '1984' (1949) invites the reader to reconsider their perspective of loneliness as inherently negative through exploration of the individual's paradoxical reliance on yet conflict with society. Through Winston, Orwell conveys that despite the non-conformist's desire for intimate connection with both others and the self, the manipulation and subversion of this longing can be employed to obliterate individual autonomy, identity, and relationship. Thus, the text effectively serves as a cautionary tale regarding the dangerous implications of a controlling, totalitarian society, awakening its audience to the complexity and fragility of human experience.

Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 07:18:36 pm
I was wondering if a one sentence thesis would be sufficient in my introduction (wrote up a quick one below). Also, do you recommend fleshing out the ideas/themes (providing one sentence on each) in the intro, or just listing the themes?

To what extent does the exploration of human experience in Nineteen Eighty-Four invite you to reconsider your understanding of loneliness?

In his cautionary tale ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’, Orwell challenges readers to explore the suppression of individual autonomy within totalitarian regimes thereby, establishing a sense of alienation which inherently corrupts the human experience.

Cheers,
Winston Smith

This is a good start to an introduction - but I would recommend having a longer introduction to further explain your/link to questions more clear, signpost your paragraphs and suggest the impact on the audience. That said, what you have written indicates a good personal interpretation of Orwell's work. Make sure to use the language of the question (aka "loneliness") in your first sentence if possible.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: niamh.brazil on October 01, 2021, 07:33:39 pm
Hi!
I was wondering... should our thesis be an argument that is *this leads to this leads to this* or just an overarching statement? Also, should our essay be in chronological order or just chronological within the body paragraph? I'm confused about how we could write a chronological essay with thematic paragraphs.
Thank you :)

Hi! Good questions here - I'll deal with them separately below:

1. The structure of a thesis can be very flexible and both the types you suggested are ways you can approach the thesis. If you're struggling to develop a thesis for 1984, I would encourage you to think about the ways power is represented in the text - how and why? Brainstorming this should generate some interesting thesis ideas. Also, read some sample theses which you can find on this thread, in the ATARnotes books or in other places online.

2. While structuring your entire essay chronologically can work well you do have to be careful about repeating yourself, as certain themes are going to recur more often throughout the novel (e.g. power/control). What generally works more effectively in my experience is trying to work generally chronologically within each paragraph. For example, a paragraph about human connection for 1984 might start with a quote about the children being encouraged to turn on their families in the opening chapters, then use 1-2 quotes about Winston and Julia's relationship in the middle of the novel and finally a quote from the ending where Winston betrays Julia or when they meet again in the final chapter with a mood of resignation.

Hopefully, this helps with your questions! let me know if you need any clarification
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Emily Adams on October 01, 2021, 09:37:54 pm
Hey Niamh!
 
I really liked your approach the storytelling in 1984 and the stories that come through Winston, the party and Orwell.

I went over my notes and prepared how I would approach the resistance and beauty in Winston's storytelling, and the ultimate power of the party's imposed narratives. How would you recommend approaching a paragraph talking about Orwell's storytelling and the power of 1984? Would you recommend using this as a paragraph? Or would there not be enough evidence for it?

Thanks! Em :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Weirdobtsarmy on October 01, 2021, 11:03:03 pm
Hello!!,
here is a partial (intro, bp1, bp2) comparative essay I wrote. It would be great and very much appreciated if anyone could provide feedback [feel free to be as harsh as you want!!]

NOTE: This essay was written in 1 hour with a venn diagram of notes/quotes/essay plan and was initially hand-written.

"Compare how the texts 1984 by George Orwell and Pleasantville directed by Gray Ross explore conformity and individuality"

Spoiler
Set in strict, oppressive totalitarian societies in which individuality is forbidden. Both texts, 1984 by George Orwell and Pleasantville directed by Gary Ross carry the same ideology that to achieve the rejuvenation and individualism of humanity, the rejection of conformity needs to be enforced and boundaries need to be broken. However, the way in which the societies of both texts do this is fundamentally different. in Pleasantville, these boundaries are broken by an external source, being Jennifer and David, contrasting 1984 as the Party's control proves to overtake the efforts of Winston and Julia. Although Orwell examines how propaganda and restriction of thought empowered conformity, Ross explores the way restriction of knowledge powers conformative views in Pleasantville.

Both texts, Pleasantville and 1984 endorse the idea of restriction of through as a means to further repress individuality, hence empowering conformity in both societies. In 1984, propaganda is used to strictly oppress and fearmonger individuals. Posters that depict "Big Brother is watching you" are displayed throughout the city to remind the citizens that they are always being "watched". Additionally, with the use of telescreens and propaganda to induce fear, the Party forces its subjects to accept anything it decrees, even if it is entirely illogical. Furthermore, the Party introduces a new language called Newspeak in order to guarantee that no one will be able to conceptualise anything that might question the Party's absolute power. Syme explains that the "whole aim of newspeak is to narrow the range of thought...[and that] there will be words to express [ourselves]. This quote hence proves the motives of the party. The idea of restriction fo through is mirrored in Pleasantville, however is endorsed differently. Similarly to 1984, thoughts in individuals are forbidden and this is shown in the repetitive norms of Pleasantville. For example, when David/Bud conversates with Skip, Skip's reply only consists of "Hiya Bud" repetitively. Furthermore, restriction of knowledge plays a vital role in suppressing individuals, this is seen as no one knows "what is outside [the town] of Pleasantville" and in how "[all] the books are blank". However, Jennifer and David break through the limited society and start enforcing views of individuality. Diverging from this idea, Winston and Julia start making decisions such as engaging in a "forbidden sexual relationship" to build individuality and identity. Ultimately, Jennifer and David's presence encourages the change of colour. As the black and white colours express the oppressed views of Pleasantville, colours start to appear as the values and beliefs of the citizens change. Contrasting this, Winston and Julia surrender to the party as it completely destructs all aspects of their individualities. Thus, although both texts utilise restriction of thought to press individuals into strict conformity, only Pleasantville succeeds in overcoming it.

In Pleasantville and 1983, segregation and sexual repression are depicted as a means to further press and force individuals into conformity. This is represented in the hierarchical system of 1984 in which citizens are divided into Proletarians and Inner and Outer parties. The Party also undermines family structure by inducting children into an organisation called the Junior Spies which encourages "the children [to] systematically turn against their parents and spy on them". This idea of segregation is mirrored in Pleasantville as Big Bob calls a town meeting in order to "separate...things that are pleasant from...things that are unpleasant". The negative impacts of segregation are shown through this act as it separates the people into "coloureds [and] true citizens". Another common concept is the use of sexual repression in both texts. In 1984, this repression forces individuals to suppress their sexual desires, hence treating sex as merely a "duty to the Party" whose end is the creation of new Party members. Offering a similar idea, in Pleasantville sex is seen only as a means of reproduction, this is exemplified when Betty asks Jennifer, her biological daughter "what is sex?". Orwell utilises Julia's scarlet sash as a symbol of chastity that represents her devotion to the Party, however starkly contrasting this, the double bed in Pleasantville symbolises the hopeful possibility of "other ways to enjoy life". Thus, both texts use the action of segregation and sexual repression to eradicate a sense of individuality and therefore promote conformity.
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Nomsie on October 02, 2021, 03:03:17 pm
Hello!!,
here is a partial (intro, bp1, bp2) comparative essay I wrote. It would be great and very much appreciated if anyone could provide feedback [feel free to be as harsh as you want!!]

NOTE: This essay was written in 1 hour with a venn diagram of notes/quotes/essay plan and was initially hand-written.

"Compare how the texts 1984 by George Orwell and Pleasantville directed by Gray Ross explore conformity and individuality"

Spoiler
Set in strict, oppressive totalitarian societies in which individuality is forbidden. Both texts, 1984 by George Orwell and Pleasantville directed by Gary Ross carry the same ideology that to achieve the rejuvenation and individualism of humanity, the rejection of conformity needs to be enforced and boundaries need to be broken. However, the way in which the societies of both texts do this is fundamentally different. in Pleasantville, these boundaries are broken by an external source, being Jennifer and David, contrasting 1984 as the Party's control proves to overtake the efforts of Winston and Julia. Although Orwell examines how propaganda and restriction of thought empowered conformity, Ross explores the way restriction of knowledge powers conformative views in Pleasantville.

Both texts, Pleasantville and 1984 endorse the idea of restriction of through as a means to further repress individuality, hence empowering conformity in both societies. In 1984, propaganda is used to strictly oppress and fearmonger individuals. Posters that depict "Big Brother is watching you" are displayed throughout the city to remind the citizens that they are always being "watched". Additionally, with the use of telescreens and propaganda to induce fear, the Party forces its subjects to accept anything it decrees, even if it is entirely illogical. Furthermore, the Party introduces a new language called Newspeak in order to guarantee that no one will be able to conceptualise anything that might question the Party's absolute power. Syme explains that the "whole aim of newspeak is to narrow the range of thought...[and that] there will be words to express [ourselves]. This quote hence proves the motives of the party. The idea of restriction fo through is mirrored in Pleasantville, however is endorsed differently. Similarly to 1984, thoughts in individuals are forbidden and this is shown in the repetitive norms of Pleasantville. For example, when David/Bud conversates with Skip, Skip's reply only consists of "Hiya Bud" repetitively. Furthermore, restriction of knowledge plays a vital role in suppressing individuals, this is seen as no one knows "what is outside [the town] of Pleasantville" and in how "[all] the books are blank". However, Jennifer and David break through the limited society and start enforcing views of individuality. Diverging from this idea, Winston and Julia start making decisions such as engaging in a "forbidden sexual relationship" to build individuality and identity. Ultimately, Jennifer and David's presence encourages the change of colour. As the black and white colours express the oppressed views of Pleasantville, colours start to appear as the values and beliefs of the citizens change. Contrasting this, Winston and Julia surrender to the party as it completely destructs all aspects of their individualities. Thus, although both texts utilise restriction of thought to press individuals into strict conformity, only Pleasantville succeeds in overcoming it.

In Pleasantville and 1983, segregation and sexual repression are depicted as a means to further press and force individuals into conformity. This is represented in the hierarchical system of 1984 in which citizens are divided into Proletarians and Inner and Outer parties. The Party also undermines family structure by inducting children into an organisation called the Junior Spies which encourages "the children [to] systematically turn against their parents and spy on them". This idea of segregation is mirrored in Pleasantville as Big Bob calls a town meeting in order to "separate...things that are pleasant from...things that are unpleasant". The negative impacts of segregation are shown through this act as it separates the people into "coloureds [and] true citizens". Another common concept is the use of sexual repression in both texts. In 1984, this repression forces individuals to suppress their sexual desires, hence treating sex as merely a "duty to the Party" whose end is the creation of new Party members. Offering a similar idea, in Pleasantville sex is seen only as a means of reproduction, this is exemplified when Betty asks Jennifer, her biological daughter "what is sex?". Orwell utilises Julia's scarlet sash as a symbol of chastity that represents her devotion to the Party, however starkly contrasting this, the double bed in Pleasantville symbolises the hopeful possibility of "other ways to enjoy life". Thus, both texts use the action of segregation and sexual repression to eradicate a sense of individuality and therefore promote conformity.


Hey, I would just recommend for your introduction to start off with an explicit thesis statement rather than a general statement about the two texts :)
Title: Re: September Text Analysis Lecture - 1984
Post by: Weirdobtsarmy on October 04, 2021, 12:07:26 am

Hey, I would just recommend for your introduction to start off with an explicit thesis statement rather than a general statement about the two texts :)
Will do, thank you!!