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June 29, 2022, 08:37:07 pm

Author Topic: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science  (Read 777 times)  Share 

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John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« on: May 26, 2022, 08:32:14 pm »
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Could someone please highlight the differences between John Monash and Elizabeth Blackburn science school. I am trying to decide between the 2 and would also like the know the VCE subjects at John Monash if anyone knows. Thanks

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2022, 03:13:25 pm »
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Hey, I went to JMSS so can't comment too much on EBSS. I do know a few things though:

1. JMSS starts in year 10 while EBSS starts in year 11
2. I think extended investigation is a compulsory subject at EBSS

JMSS specific
3. You are encouraged to do 2 sciences + 2 maths (methods + specialist, they only let you do further if you're really struggling with maths) + 1 English (lit, lang or mainstream) + 1 subject of your choice (they encourage a humanities subject but you can negotiate too). However, this isn't a hard and fast rule and you can negotiate with the teachers and explain why you'd like to deviate from this. I know many of my friends did that.
4. They also offer accelerated subjects for methods, physics, bio and chem.
     For methods, you have to sit a readiness test towards the end of the year you've been accepted and ~50 kids are accepted into      methods 1/2.
     Chem and physics have their own pathways which you can find in the handbook if you're accepted
     Bio has no prerequisite to do 3/4 in year 11. You can just skip right to it.

Also of note: to do 2 3/4's in year 11, you need to have around a 90% average (calculated from all your yr10 subjects) but this can be a bit lower but it'll need some persuading :p

I hope this has helped you! Take it with a grain of salt as I graduated last year so they might change some things around
Biology: 47
Chemistry: 45
Methods: 44
Specialist maths: 39
English: 43
UMEP maths: 4.5

ATAR: 99.45

JMSS

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2022, 02:26:32 pm »
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Hey, I went to JMSS so can't comment too much on EBSS. I do know a few things though:

1. JMSS starts in year 10 while EBSS starts in year 11
2. I think extended investigation is a compulsory subject at EBSS

JMSS specific
3. You are encouraged to do 2 sciences + 2 maths (methods + specialist, they only let you do further if you're really struggling with maths) + 1 English (lit, lang or mainstream) + 1 subject of your choice (they encourage a humanities subject but you can negotiate too). However, this isn't a hard and fast rule and you can negotiate with the teachers and explain why you'd like to deviate from this. I know many of my friends did that.
4. They also offer accelerated subjects for methods, physics, bio and chem.
     For methods, you have to sit a readiness test towards the end of the year you've been accepted and ~50 kids are accepted into      methods 1/2.
     Chem and physics have their own pathways which you can find in the handbook if you're accepted
     Bio has no prerequisite to do 3/4 in year 11. You can just skip right to it.

Also of note: to do 2 3/4's in year 11, you need to have around a 90% average (calculated from all your yr10 subjects) but this can be a bit lower but it'll need some persuading :p

I hope this has helped you! Take it with a grain of salt as I graduated last year so they might change some things around

Hi, thanks. Does JMSS offer the ability to do unit 1/2 subjects in Yr10 or 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2022, 08:39:33 pm »
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Hi, thanks. Does JMSS offer the ability to do unit 1/2 subjects in Yr10 or 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?

You can do unit 1/2 methods, physics and chemistry. You canít do 1/2 biology in yr10 but they have electives that cover the content and you can just go straight to 3/4 bio in yr11. 1/2 bio is pretty irrelevant to 3/4 anyways.
Biology: 47
Chemistry: 45
Methods: 44
Specialist maths: 39
English: 43
UMEP maths: 4.5

ATAR: 99.45

JMSS

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2022, 12:27:59 am »
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You can do unit 1/2 methods, physics and chemistry. You canít do 1/2 biology in yr10 but they have electives that cover the content and you can just go straight to 3/4 bio in yr11. 1/2 bio is pretty irrelevant to 3/4 anyways.

Iím also assuming they have a strict 5 unit 3/4 subject maximum in Yr12 at JMSS and donít allow 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2022, 10:32:54 am »
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Iím also assuming they have a strict 5 unit 3/4 subject maximum in Yr12 at JMSS and donít allow 6 3/4 subjects in Yr12?

Whoops, sorry for not answering the other part of your question!

Yeah, you canít do 6 3/4ís in yr12. Thatís why they really want you to do 1 3/4 at least in yr11 so youíre not missing out on study scores
Biology: 47
Chemistry: 45
Methods: 44
Specialist maths: 39
English: 43
UMEP maths: 4.5

ATAR: 99.45

JMSS

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Re: John Monash Science vs Elizabeth Blackburn Science
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2022, 11:08:33 am »
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Whoops, sorry for not answering the other part of your question!

Yeah, you canít do 6 3/4ís in yr12. Thatís why they really want you to do 1 3/4 at least in yr11 so youíre not missing out on study scores

Sorry one more question, if you did a University Extension take would that count as one of your 5 3/4 units in Yr12 or would it be extra?