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Uni Stuff => Faculties => Other => Topic started by: turley on December 16, 2009, 10:04:50 pm

Title: teaching
Post by: turley on December 16, 2009, 10:04:50 pm
who is considering teaching as a career? (ie. actually in schools - not shifty tutors)
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Post by: kyzoo on December 16, 2009, 10:07:22 pm
who is considering teaching as a career? (ie. actually in schools - not shifty tutors)

"shifty"? LOL
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Post by: Nic K on December 16, 2009, 10:17:15 pm
Me!!!! I want to teach secondary students :)
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Post by: walkec on July 13, 2012, 06:03:06 pm
I want to! It's the only thing I have ever wanted to do and the further I get along in school, I can see me being a great teacher even more
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Post by: Starlight on July 13, 2012, 07:22:42 pm
I don't know about teaching but lecturing at a university might be okay :)
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Post by: walkec on July 17, 2012, 08:31:44 pm
Does anyone know of any education degrees where you are qualifies to teach both primary and secondary? Many thanks  :)
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Post by: brenden on July 17, 2012, 08:40:47 pm
Does anyone know of any education degrees where you are qualifies to teach both primary and secondary? Many thanks  :)
I've heard of one from Prep-10. Might be a Monash course. Not really sure at all, it's just in my head for some reason.
Yep! The reason I'm trying in VCE is so I can get into secondary teaching and help kids not to make the same mistakes I did lol. (And I do like teaching quite a bit).
Who's going for a double in Arts/S.Ed next year at Monash Clayton?
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Post by: Muuru on July 17, 2012, 09:05:43 pm
Does anyone know of any education degrees where you are qualifies to teach both primary and secondary? Many thanks  :)

Take a look at the Victorian Institute of Teaching site for all the information you need. From what I've read, the two main ones are Monash University's Bachelor of Education (P-10) and Victoria University's Bachelor of Education (P-12).

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Who's going for a double in Arts/S.Ed next year at Monash Clayton?

This was originally on my list of preferences after I completed my VCE several years ago, but I opted to do straight Arts and then complete a graduate-entry teaching degree (at present, I'm studying the MTeach at Melbourne). In hindsight, I'm glad I chose the BA -> MTeach path rather than the BA/BEd double degree as I've heard that BEd degrees in general are too saturated in theory. Somebody on this forum stated not long ago that BEd students at Monash have the bulk of their placement days crammed into fourth year as well, which I think is bad. That was a primary student teacher though, so it might be different for secondary candidates.

As the MTeach at Melbourne is only a two-year degree, it cuts out most of the theory (not all) and devotes more time to the practicalities of teaching, which I'm enjoying thoroughly. Your placement day are spread throughout the whole degree too; you're in a school for at least two days EVERY week. One of the main reasons I chose it!
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Post by: brenden on July 17, 2012, 09:15:24 pm
Is a masters > a bachelor?
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Post by: max payne on July 17, 2012, 10:31:12 pm
Say if you do a bachelor of mathematics at UoM, how would you go about adding a teaching degree? Whats a teaching degree like (as in what do you do). Im actually clueless in what the provess is in becoming a teacher.
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Post by: JaneDoe on July 18, 2012, 04:09:11 pm
Who's going for a double in Arts/S.Ed next year at Monash Clayton?
I am, it's my first preference. I'm really hoping to get into it because I love the options that come along with doing a double degree compared to just a single education degree.
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Post by: KevinooBz on July 18, 2012, 04:38:27 pm
Is a masters > a bachelor?
You get paid more and it's a higher degree so it is greater.
Say if you do a bachelor of mathematics at UoM, how would you go about adding a teaching degree? Whats a teaching degree like (as in what do you do). Im actually clueless in what the provess is in becoming a teacher.
Bachelor of Mathematics, not sure if UoM have that. If you meant Bachelor of Science majoring in Mathematical Science or something similar to that you just need to do the pre requisite subjects to qualify for the Master of Teaching. I'm not 100% sure on what you study but you get work placements at schools and at uni you focus on what you choose to specialize in, math and chemistry for example.
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Post by: walkec on July 18, 2012, 04:43:47 pm
How much more do you get paid if you have a masters?
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Post by: KevinooBz on July 18, 2012, 04:50:33 pm
How much more do you get paid if you have a masters?
It's only a couple thousand more. You can a better salary if you work somewhere other than Victoria or you get promoted to co ordinater, principal, subject head and things like that.
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Post by: meganrobyn on July 18, 2012, 05:45:55 pm
Teaching salary is based on years teaching and responsibilities within the school - not qualifications, sorry. And you don't get promotions based on qualifications, either; I'm not saying it's totally irrelevant, but it's mainly a matter of working your way up the ladder by applying progressively for higher positions of responsibility.

To become a teacher you can either do a full undergraduate degree or what is essentially a postgraduate diploma of one year (a couple of different options exist for the postgrad). You do two subjects per semester on theory of learning and teaching, plus two subjects on what you want to teach (ie what your undergraduate studies qualify you in).

Please note this is the qualification for secondary teaching! But secondary qualifications allow you to teach primary as well (it doesn't work the other way around, though).
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Post by: brenden on July 18, 2012, 06:04:20 pm
Irrelevant, but it says you mark for VCAA in your sig - are you a teacher or can they be marked externally from schools?
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Post by: walkec on July 18, 2012, 06:42:57 pm

To become a teacher you can either do a full undergraduate degree or what is essentially a postgraduate diploma of one year (a couple of different options exist for the postgrad). You do two subjects per semester on theory of learning and teaching, plus two subjects on what you want to teach (ie what your undergraduate studies qualify you in).

Please note this is the qualification for secondary teaching! But secondary qualifications allow you to teach primary as well (it doesn't work the other way around, though).

So say I was to enrol in a BA/BEd (Secondary) at Monash, I'd be qualified to also teach primary?
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Post by: meganrobyn on July 18, 2012, 06:52:55 pm
I have the Postgrad Dip in secondary (one year) and am qualified for primary - my understanding is that it's the same for every secondary qualification. I don't think a primary school would hire me as quickly as they would someone will specifically primary training, though!

I'm not teaching full-time this year - but to be an examiner you have to have experience teaching the 3/4 subject.
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Post by: walkec on July 20, 2012, 09:10:51 pm
Today I finished a weeks work experience at a primary school. I chose to complete my placement at a primary school because I have always been really passionate about teaching, but I wasn't sure how I'd deal with the little ones. I just finished writing up my report and it has made me think I'd still like teaching secondary more. This is despite my mum trying to convince me to do primary because of the whole attitude thing in secondary (it is worth noting that she works at a primary school). It's not like I'm not patient or anything, I LOVED my work experience, but I think in the long run I wouldn't be able to hack having to simplify everything!

So, I feel it is necessary for me to reignite the primary teaching VS secondary teaching debate! Any reasons why you'd pick one over the other would be much appreciated.