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Title: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: Ethereal on December 09, 2019, 04:56:22 pm
Hey everyone,

So I'm now a year 12 graduate (17 years old, soon to be 18) heading into university next year. After my exams, I CV-bombed a lot of places. I managed to finally get an offer for a fruit market after about 20 tries from other stores. Initially, they had a cashier vacancy available, which I applied for, but they told me that since I'm a guy, it's better if I did manual labour rather than on the till as they are reserved for the girls.

Right, fair enough I guess, just today I had an interview with the owner of the shop, and I got the job. He talked about my hourly rates, and I was shocked to hear him say that I would start at $8 an hour, with the cap being at $12 when I advance.

If I was only put on cashier, I wouldn't be too fussed, but the thing is that I'm doing manual labour for only 8 bucks. atm I'm really planning on rejecting the job because this is extremely ridiculous, but at the same time I really need experience and this job took me damn long to get.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: SmartWorker on December 09, 2019, 05:01:47 pm
Hey everyone,

So I'm now a year 12 graduate (17 years old, soon to be 18) heading into university next year. After my exams, I CV-bombed a lot of places. I managed to finally get an offer for a fruit market after about 20 tries from other stores. Initially, they had a cashier vacancy available, which I applied for, but they told me that since I'm a guy, it's better if I did manual labour rather than on the till as they are reserved for the girls.

Right, fair enough I guess, just today I had an interview with the owner of the shop, and I got the job. He talked about my hourly rates, and I was shocked to hear him say that I would start at $8 an hour, with the cap being at $12 when I advance.

If I was only put on cashier, I wouldn't be too fussed, but the thing is that I'm doing manual labour for only 8 bucks. atm I'm really planning on rejecting the job because this is extremely ridiculous, but at the same time I really need experience and this job took me damn long to get.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Man, that's outrageous, only $8 per hour, if it was me I would certainly reject but this is only my 2 cents, please take it as a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: DrDusk on December 09, 2019, 05:14:33 pm
Hey everyone,

So I'm now a year 12 graduate (17 years old, soon to be 18) heading into university next year. After my exams, I CV-bombed a lot of places. I managed to finally get an offer for a fruit market after about 20 tries from other stores. Initially, they had a cashier vacancy available, which I applied for, but they told me that since I'm a guy, it's better if I did manual labour rather than on the till as they are reserved for the girls.

Right, fair enough I guess, just today I had an interview with the owner of the shop, and I got the job. He talked about my hourly rates, and I was shocked to hear him say that I would start at $8 an hour, with the cap being at $12 when I advance.

If I was only put on cashier, I wouldn't be too fussed, but the thing is that I'm doing manual labour for only 8 bucks. atm I'm really planning on rejecting the job because this is extremely ridiculous, but at the same time I really need experience and this job took me damn long to get.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!
Isn't that below minimum wage?? It's less than half! That is illegal in that case.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: Coolmate on December 09, 2019, 05:18:44 pm
Yeah, that definetly doesn't seem right. Is there an award wage document you could look at?
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: Calebark on December 09, 2019, 05:20:34 pm
I'd outright refuse. I've done manual labour, and at even at award rates, it's exhausting — I can assure you $8 p/h isn't worth it, especially after considering the money for transport and the extra food you will end up eating as a result of the labour.

It's tough, but keep looking for something better :)

Additionally, if you'd like to make a report about their underpayment of hourly workers, you can do so here.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: K888 on December 09, 2019, 05:22:11 pm
Yep, that's definitely below minimum wage. In my retail job at 17 with no experience I was earning $15+ an hour so you should be closer to that figure. IMO I wouldn't take it but if you're desperate then I guess its better than nothing. Just know that a place that isn't going to pay you well also won't treat you well and they'll probably try to exploit you in some way. I'd keep on trying for other jobs. If you're happy doing manual labour, get a job at a warehouse doing pick/packing - it pays really well and from what I've heard its a pretty easy job to get. Have a look on seek - there's plenty of places always advertising.

Another option is to try hospitality - you might not be able to get a front of house job but you should be able to get a dish hand job or something similar.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: Joseph41 on December 09, 2019, 05:33:50 pm
Definitely not.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: Ethereal on December 09, 2019, 05:35:59 pm
Thanks everyone, yeah I guess now that I think about it, I am definitely getting scammed. The option is still there though, I'm not completely rejecting it yet.

Isn't that below minimum wage?? It's less than half! That is illegal in that case.
Hm. I wasn't even aware of this. This place is cash in hand as well which I always thought the businesses would pay less (but come to think of it, cash in hand businesses should pay more because they don't have to pay tax)

Yep, that's definitely below minimum wage. In my retail job at 17 with no experience I was earning $15+ an hour so you should be closer to that figure. IMO I wouldn't take it but if you're desperate then I guess its better than nothing. Just know that a place that isn't going to pay you well also won't treat you well and they'll probably try to exploit you in some way. I'd keep on trying for other jobs. If you're happy doing manual labour, get a job at a warehouse doing pick/packing - it pays really well and from what I've heard its a pretty easy job to get. Have a look on seek - there's plenty of places always advertising.

Another option is to try hospitality - you might not be able to get a front of house job but you should be able to get a dish hand job or something similar.
I've worked in a restaurant when I was 15 and was paid $9, again via cash in hand. Should I just opt to go for places that aren't cash in hand cause' I've realised that most are rip offs.

I'd outright refuse. I've done manual labour, and at even at award rates, it's exhausting — I can assure you $8 p/h isn't worth it, especially after considering the money for transport and the extra food you will end up eating as a result of the labour.

It's tough, but keep looking for something better :)

Additionally, if you'd like to make a report about their underpayment of hourly workers, you can do so here.
I've considered this situation, the workplace is around 30 minutes away from my home if I take the bus, and the bus fares are like what $1.50 one way? If I were to hypothetically work a one hour shift, my net pay is $5 damn.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: K888 on December 09, 2019, 05:49:56 pm
I've worked in a restaurant when I was 15 and was paid $9, again via cash in hand. Should I just opt to go for places that aren't cash in hand cause' I've realised that most are rip offs.
Yeah, definitely work for a company that pays you legit - into bank account, where you have a superannuation account that they pay into, all that jazz.

Places usually do cash in hand because they're trying to dodge taxes and trying to avoid paying their workers the legal amount.
Title: Re: Is this job offer worth it?
Post by: AngelWings on December 09, 2019, 05:57:56 pm
I’m not sure if this is still open, but ATAR Notes was recently advertising a job, if you’re up for it. Better apply quick though, it closes today!