{SAC RANKINGS} -All you need to know about it-

[Mc47]

Your ranking doesn't really matter if the people above you are actually better than you right?

e.g. I'm ranked 3rd in physics, and will likely get the 3rd best exam score, so others won't really impact me?

[StupidProdigy]

Hey hamo (or anyone else who wants to answer!). I got told what my sac rank was for a subject. Turns out it was rank 1 overall, whoever I've managed to not get rank one for either unit 1, just overall...I've lucked out right? Like overall rank doesn't matter as much since the ranks are submitted per unit yeah? Thanks

[Sine]

Hey hamo (or anyone else who wants to answer!). I got told what my sac rank was for a subject. Turns out it was rank 1 overall, whoever I've managed to not get rank one for either unit 1, just overall...I've lucked out right? Like overall rank doesn't matter as much since the ranks are submitted per unit yeah? Thanks

That's very unfortunate, at least this shows that you have been the most consistent performer and should take that confidence into the exam.

Just curious are you talking about further (as per your signature) because then it's overall rank which counts.

[StupidProdigy]

That's very unfortunate, at least this shows that you have been the most consistent performer and should take that confidence into the exam.

Just curious are you talking about further (as per your signature) because then it's overall rank which counts.

Mmm thanks for the sympathy haha..and no it's not for further (my sig is just to confuse people..). Thanks for the insight though about confidence for the exam 

[ashwin1999]

I know this is kind of unrelated to this topic, but If I missed a chemistry sac not due to being ill and getting a zero for it, can I still get at least a 30 study score in it? if I get 60-70 percent on my other Sacs for chem, can it affect my overall atar in anyway considering that it wont be in my top 4? If one sac or part of it is missed does it mean I get a not satisfactory for the unit or just zero for the sac?

Cheers,
Ashwin

[Orb]

I know this is kind of unrelated to this topic, but If I missed a chemistry sac not due to being ill and getting a zero for it, can I still get at least a 30 study score in it? if I get 60-70 percent on my other Sacs for chem, can it affect my overall atar in anyway considering that it wont be in my top 4? If one sac or part of it is missed does it mean I get a not satisfactory for the unit or just zero for the sac?

Cheers,
Ashwin

Just 0 for the SAC. Check with your teacher as to whether you can still get a S for the unit.

[appleandbee]

I know this is kind of unrelated to this topic, but If I missed a chemistry sac not due to being ill and getting a zero for it, can I still get at least a 30 study score in it? if I get 60-70 percent on my other Sacs for chem, can it affect my overall atar in anyway considering that it wont be in my top 4? If one sac or part of it is missed does it mean I get a not satisfactory for the unit or just zero for the sac?

Cheers,
Ashwin

As Hamo94 said, check with your teacher. In such cases, most schools/teachers will probably make you do a supplementary assessment in order to attain an S for the unit (won't change your SAC grade though). The majority of teachers don't want students to be denied a study score, get an N  on their certificate or kicked out of the subject. Assuming you get an S for the unit, a 30+ study score is attainable. I know a few people that got 40+ study scores (someone even got a 46 in English with a 80-93% on all her other SACs) that got 0 for a SAC (they didn't turn up to it lol, my school has good SAC moderation for most subjects though).

[ashwin1999]

Thanks, I am not sure yet but it was an extended experimental investigation held over a couple of lessons, I attended two lessons before this.

[janex]

 hi Hamo,thanks for all your detailed info. This is hypothetical but based on fact!  If I'm ranked 2 in a cohort of 40 [psych] where we have sac marks of 97 and 96 respectively. In exam say I get 92 but rank 1 student gets only 84, (and assuming no one else in the cohort will even get close) does my SAC get moderated down to 84?
Thanks

[Orb]

hi Hamo,thanks for all your detailed info. This is hypothetical but based on fact!  If I'm ranked 2 in a cohort of 40 [psych] where we have sac marks of 97 and 96 respectively. In exam say I get 92 but rank 1 student gets only 84, (and assuming no one else in the cohort will even get close) does my SAC get moderated down to 84?
Thanks

Yes probably

[janex]

ooh, that is harsh!! 

[Hasiibaa__]

Is there any way to scale up in the rankings? For example I'm 3rd ranking in a subject is there any way for me to get to rank 1?

[Joseph41]

Is there any way to scale up in the rankings? For example I'm 3rd ranking in a subject is there any way for me to get to rank 1?

Hey, Hasiibaa. Welcome to ATAR Notes!

Are you asking how to overtake rank 1 and rank 2? If that's the case, it's all based on marks - so you'll need to catch up on the mark differential, and then overtake them. Does that answer your question?

[A1P]

This is hypothetical but based on fact!  If I'm ranked 2 in a cohort of 40 [psych] where we have sac marks of 97 and 96 respectively. In exam say I get 92 but rank 1 student gets only 84, (and assuming no one else in the cohort will even get close) does my SAC get moderated down to 84?

I just saw this question and the reply "Yes probably" needs commenting on.

The rule-of-thumb formula is your post-exam SAC = your pre-exam SAC x (cohort's exam average / cohort's pre-exam SAC average)
Described in words your SAC is moderated to reflect the whole cohort's exam performance.

Only in a rare case where everyone in your cohort (except you) drops 13 marks like rank #1, then your SAC gets moderated down by a similar amount to around 84.

If rank #1's big drop is only him/her and the rest all drop 4 marks like your 96 to 92, your SAC would only drop ~5 marks to around 91. IOW it depends on the whole cohort (thus cohort's exam average) not just one person.

[miguel_1]

Hey,

So my cohort as a whole is fairly weak with an advanced year 11 methods class and the year 12 class. The year 12 class is getting D's and E's while the year 11 class is getting B's and A's. Rank one has a sac average of 80%. If that person does incredibly well on the exams with 2 A+'s is there a chance of them receiving a 40+ without getting incredibly good marks on sacs. No one in the previous year got a 40+ study score so it seems sort of impossible... I also want to know if the low results produced by the year 12's can affect those achieving higher. Just wanted to hear your thoughts.

Thanks

Pretty sure if rank 1 aces the exam, their sacs get scaled up and they get a 50 study score. Correct me if I'm wrong