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General Discussion => Sport => General Discussion Boards => Australian Football (AFL) => Topic started by: Joseph41 on March 22, 2019, 08:51:56 am
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Game one probs went as expected tbh. Shame about Rance - hope his injury isn't too severe. I didn't see it live but doesn't sound great from all reports.
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Bit annoyed that Dustin didn't get called out for pushing in the back on multiple instances.
Still a shame about Rance though.
GO THE PIES
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Bit annoyed that Dustin didn't get called out for pushing in the back on multiple instances.
Still a shame about Rance though.
GO THE PIES
Confident for tonight?
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just a tad bit.
Hopefully the nerves don't mess them up like the grand finals.
Ur predictions?
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Game one probs went as expected tbh.
Thought Carlton may have been in with a chance there especially with Rance going down but Richmond pulled through in the end
Shame about Rance - hope his injury isn't too severe. I didn't see it live but doesn't sound great from all reports.
ACL confirmed, gone for the season. Not sure how big an impact it's going to have but it's a massive blow
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just a tad bit.
Hopefully the nerves don't mess them up like the grand finals.
Ur predictions?
I reckon Collingwood will get up. Not as confident for Melbourne tomorrow haha.
Thought Carlton may have been in with a chance there especially with Rance going down but Richmond pulled through in the endACL confirmed, gone for the season. Not sure how big an impact it's going to have but it's a massive blow
Shit news.
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Already off to a great start with the tipping this year .... . .. . . . . . . .
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Pretty disappointing start. Felt like Melbourne was completely cooked by the 20-minute mark today.
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First round jitters.
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Pretty disappointing start. Felt like Melbourne was completely cooked by the 20-minute mark today.
Looked quite lost and burnt out after that first quarter. Too many skill errors and our top players/leaders didn't stand up when required.
Already off to a great start with the tipping this year .... . .. . . . . . . .
Hopefully this round isn't a good indicator of what's to come I feel like it might be though
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Looked quite lost and burnt out after that first quarter. Too many skill errors and our top players/leaders didn't stand up when required.
Hopefully this round isn't a good indicator of what's to come I feel like it might be though
Honestly I can't remember a worse game from any of Gawn, Viney or Jones. Viney reminded me of post-foot Trengove.
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what a crazy saturday, literally only got 1 tip right LOL lets hope today is better
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Involved in a tipping comp with my family rather than alone this year, as I didn't want to spend every second watching AFL in Year 12 :P
Regrets though, I told them to tip Brissy but they shut me down. :'(
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Not doing individual footy tipping, but the homegroups at school do "class footy tipping", decided mostly democratically. I went with the class tips (including picking Freo over North) except for Brisbane/WCE, made the executive call on Brisbane and had a bunch of 16 year olds lambaste me. Guess who is getting ROASTED by their teacher Monday morning?
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Not doing individual footy tipping, but the homegroups at school do "class footy tipping", decided mostly democratically. I went with the class tips (including picking Freo over North) except for Brisbane/WCE, made the executive call on Brisbane and had a bunch of 16 year olds lambaste me. Guess who is getting ROASTED by their teacher Monday morning?
Good tip. I considered but went with West Coast. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Brisbane made finals.
Did tip the Dogs, though.
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Honestly I can't remember a worse game from any of Gawn, Viney or Jones. Viney reminded me of post-foot Trengove.
I didn't see much of or pay too much attention to Viney but looking at the stats, he did not have much impact at all. Gawn was run ragged by Lycett and Ryder who nullified any influence he might have had. Hopefully we will play Preuss when we're up against two rucks as Gawn needs the support in that situation. Jones' game was summed up by that dropped mark in the 4th.
The wild round continues with GWS thumping Essendon. Would have liked to have seen Gold Coast win but St Kilda were able to just hold on in the end.
Edit: Have just seen the score for Freo v North, wtf @Aaron
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mama mia.
~only round 1/team gelling together/any other remotely feasible excuse I can think of to support an atrocious performance lol~
In all seriousness though, very sad to see Ed V-W go down again. Poor kid can't catch a break. If ACL, would just give it up tbh. He's a very smart individual academically speaking, so reckon he can make it in another field.
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Glad I was away with this weekend and didn't catch much of the footy. Holy shit.
Tipping was dreadful this week obviously. A lot of surprises out of the blocks. With that said, I guess that's what makes for a good season, this level of unpredictability. How poorly some teams have started though and the seeming lack of quality out of the first week is a bit odd.
Terrible news about Alex Rance. Watching it happen I was surprised he did his ACL with that mechanism. A lot of people really hate Alex Rance, but his comments after the game were incredibly brave and showed a great deal of leadership if anything. More than his skill, I think that leadership is what we'll miss on ground.
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Glad I was away with this weekend and didn't catch much of the footy. Holy shit.
Tipping was dreadful this week obviously. A lot of surprises out of the blocks. With that said, I guess that's what makes for a good season, this level of unpredictability. How poorly some teams have started though and the seeming lack of quality out of the first week is a bit odd.
Terrible news about Alex Rance. Watching it happen I was surprised he did his ACL with that mechanism. A lot of people really hate Alex Rance, but his comments after the game were incredibly brave and showed a great deal of leadership if anything. More than his skill, I think that leadership is what we'll miss on ground.
I don't get the hate for Rance at all. People bemoan that players are robotic and all the same etc., but as soon as anybody has a different type of personality, they get shot down straight away.
I like him, and I like watching him play. Was saddened by his injury.
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Looks like Jay Lockhart is going to debut some 15 days after signing with Melbourne. Surely one of the quicker debuts in recent memory.
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Suggestions for another sport to follow?
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Suggestions for another sport to follow?
Surely you're still enjoying that 2017 flag?
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Suggestions for another sport to follow?
How about a little cricket? :)
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How about a little cricket? :)
Surely the most soul-crushing sport in the history of the world.
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Looks like Jay Lockhart is going to debut some 15 days after signing with Melbourne. Surely one of the quicker debuts in recent memory.
He's been on Melbourne's radar for a long time though, been with Casey the last few years as a frequent performer.
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He's been on Melbourne's radar for a long time though, been with Casey the last few years as a frequent performer.
Yep, makes you wonder why we didn't at least rookie him initially though.
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Well, that was a pretty shit night at The Cattery.
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Well, that was a pretty shit night at The Cattery.
MFCSS in effect tonight. It's quite ridiculous how we can get 72 to 48 inside 50s and lose by 80.
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MFCSS in effect tonight. It's quite ridiculous how we can get 72 to 48 inside 50s and lose by 80.
It's the Melbourne way.
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It's gonna be a long season.
*sigh*
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Anyone catch the Hawks Doggies game that just finished? I checked in with around 12 minutes left and the Hawks were up by 6 goals, come back five minutes ago and the Dogs won easily!
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Anyone catch the Hawks Doggies game that just finished? I checked in with around 12 minutes left and the Hawks were up by 6 goals, come back five minutes ago and the Dogs won easily!
Yeah, watched the whole last quarter. Ridiculous.
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Caught a bit of all of the games today. Was really impressed with the quality of the AFLW. After a few rough weeks in the media, pulling a crowd of nearly 55K for their grand final was a fucking awesome outcome.
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It's the Melbourne way.
I'm glad to see we haven't completely changed our ways
Really happy to see Brisbane starting well, they've got a talented group of young players mixed in with some experienced heads that should see them do quite well this year. Also it is early days but I think Gold Coast may finally have some good foundations now that they have captains who seem to really care and want to be at the club.
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Scrappy effort tonight.. 17 behinds is pathetic.
But, will take the win nonetheless! First one for the season.
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Can't wait for our next token finals appearance in 2030.
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Can't wait for our next token finals appearance in 2030.
We'll see you there!
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Trust Carlton to bloody win, of all weeks. lol
patience is wearing thin. Feels like we've gone backwards.
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Trust Carlton to bloody win, of all weeks. lol
As a Bulldogs supporter, I would have much preferred it was any other week. We were pathetic, to be frank. Will be scrapping with you guys near the bottom, I think.
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Thank god for that.
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Thank god for that.
Cost me 9/9. :(
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Cost me 9/9. :(
You deserve this pain.
#benbrownbrownlow
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Cost me 9/9. :(
Still better than me. Also, carn the Dogs!
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Still better than me. Also, carn the Dogs!
Was a good win!
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Liked the fight this week. Very competitive for most of the match against the Cats. Sad to not win but I liked what I saw.
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Do people think Ablett should have got a week for either (or both) of his incidents? I'm honestly unsure - although as a Dogs fans would have loved to see him rubbed out this week haha
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Do people think Ablett should have got a week for either (or both) of his incidents? I'm honestly unsure - although as a Dogs fans would have loved to see him rubbed out this week haha
Haven't looked at either of the incidents in depth tbh, but don't think there was heaps in them. Does seem pretty inconsistent with previous findings, though.
Confident for this week?
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If it was any player other than Ablett...
inconsistent
I think this is the reason why people are pissed. The elbow didn't cause significant impact, sure, but players have been suspended for a lot less in the past.
An elbow to the face is an elbow to the face.. like, while it wasn't terrible, the potential for it to be was there, definitely. Careless.
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Confident for this week?
Never confident for any given week with us at the moment, to be honest. If we don't get blown away early I give us a big chance.
Yourself?
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Never confident for any given week with us at the moment, to be honest. If we don't get blown away early I give us a big chance.
Yourself?
Given our form, opponent and injuries, I expect nothing less than a ten-goal win.
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Given our form, opponent and injuries, I expect nothing less than a ten-goal win.
You're dreamin' ;D ;D
Catters all the waaayyyyy....
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You're dreamin' ;D ;D
Catters all the waaayyyyy....
You're probably right!
I'm a Melbourne supporter, though. Expecting a big loss against West Coast.
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I'm a Melbourne supporter, though.
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Ooooooohhhh :o....not too impressed with their form this year...
expected big things but they didn't really deliver...
Only round 9 though so can't speak too soon, but they need to really lift their game
Should have smashed GC on weekend.
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If it was any player other than Ablett...
I think this is the reason why people are pissed. The elbow didn't cause significant impact, sure, but players have been suspended for a lot less in the past.
An elbow to the face is an elbow to the face.. like, while it wasn't terrible, the potential for it to be was there, definitely. Careless.
Yeah thought it was pretty rich to let Abblett and Fyfe off after both of them deliberately collected someone in the face with their elbows.
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Rampe has been fined $10,000 by the AFL after telling Mollison he "talks like a little girl", having conceded a holding the ball free kick during the second quarter.
Source: AFL
Is it just me or does that seem sorta excessive punishment for mere in-game heated convo?
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Is it just me or does that seem sorta excessive punishment for mere in-game heated convo?
Meh. Disrespect is disrespect, especially to an umpire.
I think it's fair.
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Meh. Disrespect is disrespect, especially to an umpire.
I think it's fair.
looks like it's the normal punishment now... re Daisy Thomas
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looks like it's the normal punishment now... re Daisy Thomas
Also appears to be a normal punishment that when you deliberately tap someone with an elbow in the head you get off.....unless of course you don't have a Brownlow.
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-24/scott-bombshell-roos-coach-agrees-to-depart-arden-st
Long time coming tbh.
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https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-05-24/scott-bombshell-roos-coach-agrees-to-depart-arden-st
Long time coming tbh.
Your thoughts?
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Your thoughts?
List decisions have been mediocre. It's not all his fault but he needs to fall on his sword. The image is a problem - nobody wants to come here ("nobody" meaning high profile players even when offered significant cash). Those that support NM can attest to the fact that they are a massively frustrating team to watch on a regular basis. Losing games that were winnable, butchering basic skills particularly this season... it's just stuff that players that are paid the salary they do, should get right.
I also think that the recruiting & list management needs to be looked at as well. Clearly something is going wrong in this department. I do think that after nearly 10 years with Scott as coach, need a change and fresh direction.
It's hard to coach a team where majority of the list are either kids or mediocre B-grade players. Just sayin.
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Timing seems a bit weird. Who would you want as a replacement?
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Timing seems a bit weird. Who would you want as a replacement?
I saw in an article (I can't even remember where now), that Rhyce Shaw was being floated as a caretaker. I just laughed when I saw it.
Crocker was great imo. Apart from that, I don't really have a preference. As long as they know what they're doing and can steer our team and list in the right direction back to finals (at least), then i'll be happy. I don't want our team to end up like Carlton where the coaches go in and out and can't get off the ground.
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^MMM seems to think Shaw is an option also. You're not a fan?
Speaking of Carlton coaches, Ratten in 2020?
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^MMM seems to think Shaw is an option also. You're not a fan?
Don't think he's experienced enough. We need somebody with proven experience of affecting change (for the better, of course).
Speaking of Carlton coaches, Ratten in 2020?
Wouldn't that be a story. Sacked then reborn.
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Should never have been sacked IMO. Loved him when he was at the Dees.
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Just to add to what's been said. I think the lesson over the last few years has been that it's possible to make a success of a coach if they have the right people around them. Glad the discussion around coaching these days has not just been about the head coach, but also around the organisation of the club. I do wonder whether that feeds into some of the issues that Brad Scott is having.
I'd also point to the fact that the business of renegotiating a contract is really fickle. Simon Goodwin being a good example of that. In a season when he almost got sacked, he was then given a long extension because Melbourne was seen to succeed last year and generated a lot of hype. You'd expect there'd be a few people out there now regretting that decision, particularly because of the perception that he drives a fairly hard arse (and I think negative) culture at the club.
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^When was Goodwin nearly sacked?
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^When was Goodwin nearly sacked?
Nearly sacked was an overstatement, apologies! There was speculation at the start of the season that he might be on his way out, but certainly nothing approaching a firm commitment from Melbourne to get rid of him.
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Last game Scott is coaching is this week, rather than end of season. It's interesting, he's part of the problem but I do feel quite disappointed and upset he's leaving. Perhaps because he's been there for so long. It's going to be strange watching another person coach our team.
He has 105 wins 105 losses, this game will determine where the 106th goes.
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This is great stuff. Can clearly tell it's over today after he hugged all his players, got his family for the song.
Good solid win too.
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Great win.
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I just woke up from a 4hr nap and incredibly surprised that Richmond got defeated by North Melbourne :-[
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I just woke up from a 4hr nap and incredibly surprised that Richmond got defeated by North Melbourne :-[
should shut people (specifically media) up for at least the next few days.
It was a great match. Skills were much better from our team - this week and last week in particular there has been a big improvement.
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^What would you put it down to?
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^What would you put it down to?
I have no bloody idea. It's the same personnel.
Probably mental?
All it confirms is that they have the ability to play well when they want to.
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Bolton sacked. Despite poor record, I'm a bit surprised. Not sure why, though.
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Bolton sacked. Despite poor record, I'm a bit surprised. Not sure why, though.
I agree, Bolton was stiff despite the bad record. They simply don’t have a good list, I don’t think any other coach would do much better.
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I agree, Bolton was stiff despite the bad record. They simply don’t have a good list, I don’t think any other coach would do much better.
Never should have removed Ratten IMO. Who do you think they'll go for to replace Bolton?
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I agree, Bolton was stiff despite the bad record. They simply don’t have a good list, I don’t think any other coach would do much better.
I also completely agree, he still required time to improve Carlton but it was somewhat expected due to their season's poor performance. Don't think getting a new coach makes the situation any better
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Never should have removed Ratten IMO. Who do you think they'll go for to replace Bolton?
Brad Scott for next season. People forget that he took North to two prelims.
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Brad Scott for next season. People forget that he took North to two prelims.
Interesting timing given Scott's recent departure from North, isn't it?
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Bolton's sacking today really reeked of a club in denial tbh. In their comments to the press today, they said that they were looking forward to having a new coach to continue their plan to rebuild the club etc etc. That they haven't even paused to reflect on the adequacy of that plan, particularly in light of the many valid criticisms that have been made about their list management and their football department, and have instead scapegoated Bolton speaks to a really broken football club that would be hard pressed running a piss up at a brewery let alone running their club to a premiership.
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Bolton's sacking today really reeked of a club in denial tbh. In their comments to the press today, they said that they were looking forward to having a new coach to continue their plan to rebuild the club etc etc. That they haven't even paused to reflect on the adequacy of that plan, particularly in light of the many valid criticisms that have been made about their list management and their football department, and have instead scapegoated Bolton speaks to a really broken football club that would be hard pressed running a piss up at a brewery let alone running their club to a premiership.
How would you go about rebuilding the club, vox?
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LoGiudice needs to go. He's been now at two coach sacking press conferences... where's the accountability for the suits who run the joint?
Bolton worked with what he had - a very mediocre list in general.
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LoGiudice needs to go. He's been now at two coach sacking press conferences... where's the accountability for the suits who run the joint?
Bolton worked with what he had - a very mediocre list in general.
Not a great excuse, I guess, but wasn't helped with key injuries, either (Docherty mostly).
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Bolton's sacking today really reeked of a club in denial tbh. In their comments to the press today, they said that they were looking forward to having a new coach to continue their plan to rebuild the club etc etc. That they haven't even paused to reflect on the adequacy of that plan, particularly in light of the many valid criticisms that have been made about their list management and their football department, and have instead scapegoated Bolton speaks to a really broken football club that would be hard pressed running a piss up at a brewery let alone running their club to a premiership.
Yeah I agree with this. It seemed a really strange presser to me - LG seemed to be saying that everything is fine, we're sticking with our plan... but also we're sacking our coach for poor performance. I had to laugh when he continually reiterated they were reviewing every position in the club, but immediately refused to reconsider his position. Seemed poor. Bolton just had a very poor list to work with IMO, lots of talent but not enough mature players to actually win games. SOS should be just as responsible, if not more, some of their recruiting has been terrible.
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What they gave up for Stocker could haunt them, too.
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You know, i'm at a point now where I just scratch my head when I watch NM games.
Tonight's umpiring decisions overall were shocking, once again.
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Just got back from the Lions v. Geelong match. I was covering my eyes the last four minutes of the game. The hanger taken by McCarthy was phenomenal and the crowd went absolutely sick when the siren sounded.
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lions for the flag calling it now
also GO DONS for the big win in perth!!