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Re: Gonna get that flat 30 ATAR | 箸の日記
« Reply #105 on: October 12, 2019, 04:25:15 pm »
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Apparently, we have 6 "normal" weeks of school left (towards the end we have one or two weeks off for work exp and camp and stuff).
Do you know what you are doing for work experience?

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I feel your pain, we had to dissect a bull's eye earlier this year and I almost passed out. The eye had all this black stuff coming out of it (too much info maybe).

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Also just a question, do you prefer the Ti-Inspire or the Casio Classpad?
I've always used the Ti-Inspire, I've being using it since year 8. Try to get really familiar with the standard commands so that you can save time and not have to find them (e.g. menu/3/1 for solve, shift/- for derivative, menu/6/4 for intersection points etc.) I think you will become more comfortable with practice.

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« Reply #106 on: October 12, 2019, 09:31:28 pm »
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Do you know what you are doing for work experience?

Hahah I have already done work exp at a pharmacy. Wbu, where are you planning on doing it
Also our school annoys me; we have to sacrifice our holidays for work exp instead of taking time out of school weeks : (

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I feel your pain, we had to dissect a bull's eye earlier this year and I almost passed out. The eye had all this black stuff coming out of it (too much info maybe).

OH MY GOD!! That's horrendous! At least you ave gotten it over and done with
Sorry to hear that

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HAHA I feel like all I have ever done in English is write comparatives. Make sure you use your comparative metalanguage, (words like "similarly", "in contrast", and then of course every English teacher's dream: "JUXTAPOSE".)

Ah really? Well you're in luck since it will make up sooo much of the course
Thanks for that advice hehe I was watching some videos on it

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I've always used the Ti-Inspire, I've being using it since year 8. Try to get really familiar with the standard commands so that you can save time and not have to find them (e.g. menu/3/1 for solve, shift/- for derivative, menu/6/4 for intersection points etc.) I think you will become more comfortable with practice.

I wish our school made us do that. Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with it since I just spend most of my time glaring at the screen and cursing it. Why does it have to be Mathematical Methods (CAS), why can't it just be Mathematical Methods!?
Thanks for the advice, though! I think I'm gonna buy the casio and see which I prefer before I become comfortable with Ti-Inspire and be like "nope nvm I like casio better but I spent all this time on the Ti-Inspire"
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Re: Gonna get that flat 30 ATAR | 箸の日記
« Reply #107 on: October 13, 2019, 12:35:34 pm »
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Hahah I have already done work exp at a pharmacy. Wbu, where are you planning on doing it
Also our school annoys me; we have to sacrifice our holidays for work exp instead of taking time out of school weeks : (
Awesome! I already did my work experience at the end of term 2 in the legal group of a bank. It was really fun but I sort of decided that law wasn't really for me afterwards because I realised I had to do something with maths in it.
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OH MY GOD!! That's horrendous! At least you ave gotten it over and done with
Sorry to hear that
Lol thanks. The worst part was that we were in pairs, and the person I was with just ran away as soon as he saw the eyes so I had to do it by myself. It was disgusting.

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« Reply #108 on: October 13, 2019, 03:24:56 pm »
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I wish our school made us do that. Admittedly, I'm not very familiar with it since I just spend most of my time glaring at the screen and cursing it. Why does it have to be Mathematical Methods (CAS), why can't it just be Mathematical Methods!?
Thanks for the advice, though! I think I'm gonna buy the casio and see which I prefer before I become comfortable with Ti-Inspire and be like "nope nvm I like casio better but I spent all this time on the Ti-Inspire"
This is actually quite a controversial topic as to whether CAS calculators should be used in VCE maths. In a way even if you don’t know the concepts but know how to plug and play with your calculator you’re set so that’s why some people don’t agree with using calculators. Also, the subject is called Mathematical Methods now not CAS (correct me if I’m wrong). This is because the TI-nspire and Casio are not the only CAS calculators being used. Recently VCAA introduced Methods CBE (computer based exam) using Wolfram Mathematica as their CAS but eventually combined both CBE and CAS last year. I’m using Mathematica and will have a laptop in the exam not a handheld calculator and I won’t be surprised if VCAA abandons handheld CAS calculators overall transitioning into Mathematica in the near future. (Look at the recent examiners reports). Using a laptop is much more powerful than a handheld but then again it just makes the CAS exploitability even worse in my opinion.

Edit: It’s still called Methods CAS but just Methods in the scaling reports now
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« Reply #109 on: October 13, 2019, 08:01:10 pm »
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Awesome! I already did my work experience at the end of term 2 in the legal group of a bank. It was really fun but I sort of decided that law wasn't really for me afterwards because I realised I had to do something with maths in it.Lol thanks. The worst part was that we were in pairs, and the person I was with just ran away as soon as he saw the eyes so I had to do it by myself. It was disgusting.

Oh, nice to know work exp was good, a legal group in a bank sounds awesome
And yes, maths is a way of living

Also can I say EWWWWW again
I'm sorry but I would be that one dude that runs away and leaves something THAT gross to my partner
How does your school even allow it? Shouldn't it be optional
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« Reply #110 on: October 13, 2019, 08:22:54 pm »
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This is actually quite a controversial topic as to whether CAS calculators should be used in VCE maths. In a way even if you don’t know the concepts but know how to plug and play with your calculator you’re set so that’s why some people don’t agree with using calculators. Also, the subject is called Mathematical Methods now not CAS (correct me if I’m wrong). This is because the TI-nspire and Casio are not the only CAS calculators being used. Recently VCAA introduced Methods CBE (computer based exam) using Wolfram Mathematica as their CAS but eventually combined both CBE and CAS last year. I’m using Mathematica and will have a laptop in the exam not a handheld calculator and I won’t be surprised if VCAA abandons handheld CAS calculators overall transitioning into Mathematica in the near future. (Look at the recent examiners reports). Using a laptop is much more powerful than a handheld but then again it just makes the CAS exploitability even worse in my opinion.

Edit: It’s still called Methods CAS but just Methods in the scaling reports now

Wow, I always knew it was a controversial topic
Personally, I get the exploitability. As the advancements of technology proceeds through time, we need to adapt. It's not about doing the Math but rather getting familiar with it.
Since I'm bad with tech, I much prefer doing it by hand. People like me are unfortunately disadvantaged, which is why I personally wish that it wouldn't require a calculator.

Also how is the Mathematica? Is it user friendly and do you prefer it over handheld calculators?
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Re: Gonna get that flat 30 ATAR | 箸の日記
« Reply #111 on: October 13, 2019, 09:10:39 pm »
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Oh, nice to know work exp was good, a legal group in a bank sounds awesome
And yes, maths is a way of living

Also can I saw EWWWWW again
I'm sorry but I would be that one dude that runs away and leaves something THAT gross to my partner
How does your school even allow it? Shouldn't it be optional

Yeah, technically we didn't have to do it, we could copy off someone else afterwards, but because it was a prac report that we were being assessed on, I wanted to do it myself.  The thing is, I had done a dissection of a fish before and I was fine with it, so I didn't know what I was going to put myself through. I was all cool with cutting the fat off around the eye, but I was the first in the class to actually cut it open and when that stuff started to come out of it, I just stopped as well.

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« Reply #112 on: October 14, 2019, 09:29:47 am »
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I stopped participating in dissections after I went vego but they never bothered me.  I'd done a fair few (cuttlefish,  sheep organs, cow's eye) and I always just thought they were interesting. 

I don't remember any black liquid coming out of the eye but that might just be because it was years ago. 

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« Reply #113 on: October 14, 2019, 05:24:36 pm »
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I stopped participating in dissections after I went vego but they never bothered me.  I'd done a fair few (cuttlefish,  sheep organs, cow's eye) and I always just thought they were interesting. 

I don't remember any black liquid coming out of the eye but that might just be because it was years ago.

Interesting. I had dissected fish, sheep organs like you said, a frog, and maybe something else prior to this cow's eye earlier this year, and they never bothered me apart from the smell. I found them quite interesting. However, there was something about dissecting this eye that really got to me.

I'm not sure if the "black stuff" was a liquid, it could possibly have been some sort of dense fluid, but I can't recall exactly.

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« Reply #114 on: October 15, 2019, 03:55:33 pm »
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Yeah, technically we didn't have to do it, we could copy off someone else afterwards, but because it was a prac report that we were being assessed on, I wanted to do it myself.  The thing is, I had done a dissection of a fish before and I was fine with it, so I didn't know what I was going to put myself through. I was all cool with cutting the fat off around the eye, but I was the first in the class to actually cut it open and when that stuff started to come out of it, I just stopped as well.

Awe poor thing
I just can't deal with dissections in general

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I stopped participating in dissections after I went vego but they never bothered me.

Wow, I've always wanted to become vegetarian (maybe not vegan because that's just a bit too much work for me) but in my family we eat a lot of meat so it will be a big hassle for them to cook vegetarian dishes separately for me
I'm thinking about it once I move out

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Interesting. I had dissected fish, sheep organs like you said, a frog, and maybe something else prior to this cow's eye earlier this year, and they never bothered me apart from the smell.

Whaaat? I've done one dissection before. It was a lobster one and I was forced to do it. We were also meant to do fish but due to a rare case of ichthyophobia, I could not do it. The lobster one was still horrible. One dissection is one too many for me
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« Reply #115 on: October 15, 2019, 06:34:26 pm »
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2019年10月15日火曜日 - Update

So a few problems happened this week

1. Did not get role of associate concert manager (I expected it anyways)
2. Did not get that English 3/4

About the English 3/4, after receiving the email from one of the teachers, I still wasn't quite satisfied. Taking English 3/4 was less of a risk than other subjects like Psych and Bio since I'm not very interested in those, I'm not very good at those and also because if I do bad in Lit 3/4 (for Year 12), I can use my English 3/4 SS and vice versa.

So I went to talk to the Head of English and it was one of the most meaningful conversation ever. He told me that even some of the brightest students, who did Lit 3/4 in Year 11, didn't get the score they wanted to. He also explained the year level separation as in, classes (like Legal Studies 1/2) which have both Year 10 and 11 students have a segregation. It's always like Year 10 students sitting on one side and Year 11's on the other. Imagine being the only Year 10 in a class full of Year 11's and not being able to ask them for help and feedback in a subjective subject like English. Sounds tough.

The Head of English also answered the very question I was going to ask him next without me having to say anything (I think he can read my mind). He recommended to do a humanities 3/4 next year instead (partially to complement Lit). It was really amazing, although I was half convinced before I entered the room that I would get my 3/4. I came in with a whole plan of what I was going to say (meant to be dot points but slowly became paragraphs) as attached below. However, after I left the room, I became fully convinced, as well as satisfied, for why I didn't get it. Also, I think it's important to mention that an English 3/4 in Year 11 has never occurred before the school.

I talked to the other teacher again and she recommended to do one 3/4 next year so I can do the English 1/2. My main concern was the uni extension program but she did say I can do it with five 3/4's in Year 12; the school just doesn't recommend it. I still feel like five 3/4's are a lot of pressure and I'm the type who likes to do more work first and less work after instead of letting everything pile up.

We have so many restrictions on VCE (like strictly 6 subjects, no more and definitely no less). I can't tell if this is a good thing or not. Oh well, just gotta deal with it (correct me if I'm wrong but I heard Melbourne High is worse in this case?).

Oh and I forgot to mention, I had a look again at the study designs for subjects I'm interested in for my second 3/4 (Psych, History, Philosophy, Global Politics and Accounting) and I've narrowed it down to history, yay! The problem with Psych is that I don't want to do a 3/4 only to realize it's like Bio. I read through the 3/4 exam and examiner's report, as well as a raw 50 student's advice for Psych and apparently those "scenario" questions still pop up. Philosophy and Global don't have many high scoring students from my school or resources available on our student sites so I kinda crossed them out. So I'm sticking with history, that is IF I do a second 3/4 next year.

My plan is to switch out of Bio 1/2 and go to Year 10 History (yes, I know it will be very different from VCE), just to get a taste. It's a shame that the AOS at school are French and Russian Revolution, respectively. I really wanted to study the Chinese Revolution and there are many chinese students in the school. Perhaps, they thought it might lead to an unfair advantage? I'm not quite sure, oh well.

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Re: Gonna get that flat 30 ATAR | 箸の日記
« Reply #116 on: October 15, 2019, 07:16:37 pm »
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2019年10月15日火曜日 - Update

So a few downs this week happened

1. Did not get role of associate concert manager (I expected it anyways)
2. Did not get that English 3/4

About the English 3/4, after receiving the email from one of the teachers, I still wasn't quite satisfied. Taking English 3/4 was less of a risk than other subjects like Psych and Bio since I'm not very interested in those, I'm not very good at those and also because if I do bad in Lit 3/4 (for Year 12), I can use my English 3/4 SS and vice versa.

So I went to talk to the Head of English and it was one of the most meaningful conversation ever. He told me that even some of the brightest students, who did Lit 3/4 in Year 11, didn't get the score they wanted to. He also explained the year level separation as in, classes (like Legal Studies 1/2) which have both Year 10 and 11 students have a segregation. It's always like Year 10 students sitting on one side and Year 11's on the other. Imagine being the only Year 10 in a class full of Year 11's and not being able to ask them for help and feedback in a subjective subject like English. Sounds tough.

The Head of English also answered the very question I was going to ask him next without me having to say anything (I think he can read my mind). He recommended to do a humanities 3/4 next year instead (partially to complement Lit). It was really amazing, although I was half convinced before I entered the room that I would get my 3/4. I came in with a whole plan of what I was going to say (meant to be dot points but slowly became paragraphs) as attached below. However, after I left the room, I became fully convinced, as well as satisfied, for why I didn't get it. Also, I think it's important to mention that an English 3/4 in Year 11 has never occurred before the school.

I talked to the initial teacher again and she recommended to do one 3/4 next year so I can do the English 1/2. My main concern was the uni extension program but she did say I can do it with five 3/4's in Year 12; the school just doesn't recommend it. I still feel like five 3/4's are a lot of pressure and I'm the type who likes to do more work first and less work after instead of letting everything pile up.

We have so many restrictions on VCE (like strictly 6 subjects, no more and definitely no less). I can't tell if this is a good thing or not. Oh well, just gotta deal with it (correct me if I'm wrong but I heard Melbourne High is worse in this case?).

Oh and I forgot to mention, I had a look again at the study designs for subjects I'm interested in for my second 3/4 (Psych, History, Philosophy, Global Politics and Accounting) and I've narrowed it down to history, yay! The problem with Psych is that I don't want to do a 3/4 only to realize it's like Bio. I read through the 3/4 exam and examiner's report, as well as a raw 50 student's advice for Psych and apparently those "scenario" questions still pop up. Philosophy and Global don't have many high scoring students from my school or resources available on our student sites so I kinda crossed them out. So I'm sticking with history, that is IF I do a second 3/4 next year.

My plan is to switch out of Bio 1/2 and go to Year 10 History (yes, I know it will be very different from VCE), just to get a taste. It's a shame that the AOS at school are French and Russian Revolution, respectively. I really wanted to study the Chinese Revolution and there are many chinese students in the school. Perhaps, they thought it might lead to an unfair advantage? I'm not quite sure, oh well.

Bad luck on the 3/4 English, I can see the passion you have for the subject. If only I enjoyed English that much LOL.
For comparison, I have never heard of anyone from my school accelerating in 3/4 English either. 

Good luck with History if you end up doing it, I'm sure you'll smash it!  ;D

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« Reply #117 on: October 15, 2019, 07:25:22 pm »
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Is there a reason you are really wanting to complete two subjects in Year 11? I mean if you don't really like the second subject, really don't do it. You won't find interest in it and it will only be a burden. Without having done the 1/2's, you will only be more under pressure.

And for English 3/4 in Year 11, I've never seen someone do that regardless of their ability

But ultimately this is your choice. Good luck with your studies

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« Reply #118 on: October 15, 2019, 10:06:22 pm »
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Bad luck on the 3/4 English, I can see the passion you have for the subject. If only I enjoyed English that much LOL.
For comparison, I have never heard of anyone from my school accelerating in 3/4 English either. 

Good luck with History if you end up doing it, I'm sure you'll smash it!  ;D

Thank you!!! And HAHAHA naww, at least you're enjoying Maths
Also, I met a girl in one of the ATAR Notes lectures and she's doing accel English which is pretty rare but pretty cool

Thank you and good luck in Methods! We can both do it together except I'll be probs struggling while you ace it : ))

Also, I noticed you have five subjects in your signature. Are you planning on doing five altogether or undecided for your sixth one?
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« Reply #119 on: October 15, 2019, 10:18:40 pm »
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Is there a reason you are really wanting to complete two subjects in Year 11? I mean if you don't really like the second subject, really don't do it. You won't find interest in it and it will only be a burden. Without having done the 1/2's, you will only be more under pressure.

And for English 3/4 in Year 11, I've never seen someone do that regardless of their ability

But ultimately this is your choice. Good luck with your studies

Well, I completely agree with your point. That's why I decided that I want to switch out of Bio 1/2 and into Year 10 History, just for a taste because I'm not sure how I feel about it.

My school doesn't run 1/2 History, so that pressure part doesn't quite apply. For English, however, I have considered that but going into Psych 3/4 without the 1/2 would be harder for me than doing English 3/4. Adding on, I mentioned people from my school got offered Lit 3/4, despite it being more difficult according to most students. I don't see why that is.

I met a girl in an ATAR Notes lecture doing English 3/4 in Year 11. It's probably something that happens in some schools but not in others. She did the 1/2 in Year 11 (unlike my plan).

About the two 3/4's part, it is recommended to do four 3/4's in Year 12 for Uni Extension. That's what I'm aiming for (Uni Extension Literature). I'm also the type of person (as stated above) who likes more work initially and less afterwards. Doing five 3/4's in Year 12 seems more hectic, despite the experience gained from doing the 1/2. I'd rather get two subjects out of the way.

Hope that answers all your questions! Thanks for the luck because I will definitely need it and good luck to you as well!

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