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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #300 on: September 17, 2020, 12:31:52 pm »
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Does anyone have any quotes on standard australian english?
Im tryna write an essay paragraph on how its the most appropriate variety to use in most contexts. A quote about where it's used or something like that would be really nice but i cant find any and im not really sure what to search to find some
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #301 on: October 05, 2020, 10:37:33 pm »
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A bit late but I hope it'll help with exams!
  • ‘In most English-speaking countries, there is a tendency - a social convention - for Standard English to dominate in relatively formal social situations’ - Peter Trudgill.
  • ‘Clearly Standard English is perceived to be intrinsically superior to other varieties.Yet examples are easy to find where non-standard dialects appear to do things better’ - Kate Burridge.

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #302 on: October 08, 2020, 03:07:58 pm »
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Hey guys,
I'm going to be studying units 3 and 4 for English Language next year, and I did not study units 1 and 2 this year. I was wondering what resources Units 1 and 2 students purchased this year, so I can buy them to do some catch up before next year.
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Any additional resources recommended by past high-achieving students would be most welcome :)
Many thanks,
Corey

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #303 on: October 20, 2020, 08:29:59 pm »
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AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC
My question is what is the goal of an AC?
I have been doing well on my sacs and can write a good AC but I'm struggling to understand the point of it.

I know I need to:
Write an analytical commentary on the language features of the text In your response you should
comment on the
- contextual factors affecting/surrounding the text
- social purpose and register of the text
- stylistic and discourse features of the text.

But what am I commenting on? Am I trying to show what these features are(low register ect..), using the language as evidence... or how the social purpose and register dictate the language?
Thanks in advance :)
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #304 on: October 20, 2020, 08:58:55 pm »
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AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC AC
My question is what is the goal of an AC?
I have been doing well on my sacs and can write a good AC but I'm struggling to understand the point of it.

I know I need to:
Write an analytical commentary on the language features of the text In your response you should
comment on the
- contextual factors affecting/surrounding the text
- social purpose and register of the text
- stylistic and discourse features of the text.

But what am I commenting on? Am I trying to show what these features are(low register ect..), using the language as evidence... or how the social purpose and register dictate the language?
Thanks in advance :)

The goal of an AC is to essentially analysis the language used in a transcript. This is done by analysing different aspects of the text, for example I break my AC's into register/situational context/mode/social purpose. Whereby in the first paragraph I will analyse how features contribute to their register, and their importance in their specific contexts, then in the second paragraph analysing language features that are reflective in the context of the discourse/text (In relation to topic management, turn-taking or coherence if written), the third paragraph is pretty self explanatory, but in the last para I analyse different language features that enable the social purpose of the writers/speakers.
So essentially your answering...why? Why do they use this feature here, and how does it relate to an aspect of the text.
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #305 on: October 23, 2020, 12:08:47 pm »
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Heys guys :)
Just started reading the 3/4 Living Lingo textbook.
I came across two definitions. That of Paralinguistic Cues and that of Phonology.
Paralinguistic language has tonality, pauses in speech etc as a part of it's definition, as does phonology.
So, what separates phonology from paralinguistic language?
Many thanks :)'
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #306 on: October 23, 2020, 12:41:05 pm »
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Also, what is the difference between the Domain of a text and the Setting?

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #307 on: October 23, 2020, 05:58:44 pm »
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Heys guys :)
Just started reading the 3/4 Living Lingo textbook.
I came across two definitions. That of Paralinguistic Cues and that of Phonology.
Paralinguistic language has tonality, pauses in speech etc as a part of it's definition, as does phonology.
So, what separates phonology from paralinguistic language?
Many thanks :)'
Corey
Paralinguistic language refers to anything non-lexical, i.e. features that don't have words. Phonology focuses more on alliteration, assonance, etc, phonological features.

Also, what is the difference between the Domain of a text and the Setting?

The domain of the text is where the actual text is found, like if it's a blog the domain would be a website or on the Internet. Setting includes where the events in the text happened, like if it was a eulogy, you'd say a funeral or cemetery. Not too sure if setting can include domain though.

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #308 on: October 23, 2020, 06:21:42 pm »
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Heys guys :)
Just started reading the 3/4 Living Lingo textbook.
I came across two definitions. That of Paralinguistic Cues and that of Phonology.
Paralinguistic language has tonality, pauses in speech etc as a part of it's definition, as does phonology.
So, what separates phonology from paralinguistic language?
Many thanks :)'
Corey

So Phonology is a subsystem.  It is a big over arching word for all the parts of language that relate to sound. The other subsystems are morphology, lexicology, syntax, semantics and discourse(which isn't so much a subsystem but rather its own free standing thing).

Now... to the meat of it... Paralinguistic features is the term used to describe the elements of spoken communication that are not sounds. A quote from the English Language for Senior Students (page 74): "In essence, paralinguistic features are the non vocal signals beyond basic speech" this are things like eye-rolls and body language. The text goes on to say that there are some linguist that do include prosodic features (stress, volume, intonation ect) as paralinguistic features but I prefer the first definition.

The comparison: phonology is the word for all things sound related in language and is a subsystem. Paralinguistic features are not their own subsystem (they come under discourse). Paralinguistic features refers to all things that are not spoken in a conversation. There maybe overlap if you consider tone and other prosodic features a part of paralinguistic features but phonology and prosodic features are not the same thing. There are many many things that come under phonology that are not paralinguistic features such as Assonance, Alliteration ect that are concerned with the way speech sounds.

Hope this helps and I didn't make too many typos or mistakes
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #309 on: October 23, 2020, 08:09:50 pm »
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Paralinguistic language refers to anything non-lexical, i.e. features that don't have words. Phonology focuses more on alliteration, assonance, etc, phonological features.

The domain of the text is where the actual text is found, like if it's a blog the domain would be a website or on the Internet. Setting includes where the events in the text happened, like if it was a eulogy, you'd say a funeral or cemetery. Not too sure if setting can include domain though.

Great definitions of Paralinguistic language and phonology :)
However, I'm still unsure about the definition of Domain.
In the textbook there is this passage: "We distinguish texts on something called domain; this is the general sphere of interest or activity where communication happens; for example, religion, friendship work, etc."
This seems at odds with the definition you provided?

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #310 on: October 23, 2020, 08:13:59 pm »
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So Phonology is a subsystem.  It is a big over arching word for all the parts of language that relate to sound. The other subsystems are morphology, lexicology, syntax, semantics and discourse(which isn't so much a subsystem but rather its own free standing thing).

Now... to the meat of it... Paralinguistic features is the term used to describe the elements of spoken communication that are not sounds. A quote from the English Language for Senior Students (page 74): "In essence, paralinguistic features are the non vocal signals beyond basic speech" this are things like eye-rolls and body language. The text goes on to say that there are some linguist that do include prosodic features (stress, volume, intonation ect) as paralinguistic features but I prefer the first definition.

The comparison: phonology is the word for all things sound related in language and is a subsystem. Paralinguistic features are not their own subsystem (they come under discourse). Paralinguistic features refers to all things that are not spoken in a conversation. There maybe overlap if you consider tone and other prosodic features a part of paralinguistic features but phonology and prosodic features are not the same thing. There are many many things that come under phonology that are not paralinguistic features such as Assonance, Alliteration ect that are concerned with the way speech sounds.

Hope this helps and I didn't make too many typos or mistakes

Ah I see :)
I think what was getting me on the definition between these two was the overlap in their definitions.

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #311 on: October 23, 2020, 08:25:22 pm »
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Great definitions of Paralinguistic language and phonology :)
However, I'm still unsure about the definition of Domain.
In the textbook there is this passage: "We distinguish texts on something called domain; this is the general sphere of interest or activity where communication happens; for example, religion, friendship work, etc."
This seems at odds with the definition you provided?

I just had a look at the study design and it really only lists "domain" as "semantic field/domain" which would mean the topic that most of the words in the discourse pertain to. Eg the semantic field/ domain of a recipe book might be food or cooking because the words all relate to those fields.

I personally feel like domain is a synonym for "situational context" which includes semantic field but also other things like the mode, register and the setting(the physical geographical setting). So the domain of a speech could be a formal address to students in a hall about legal studies.

Not a very study design friendly term... I think the first definition is more VCAA, that is a synonym for semantic field
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #312 on: October 24, 2020, 11:15:31 pm »
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Would you consider the construction 'how good is' to be Aussie slang? I've noticed it popping up more ever since Scomo revived it with 'how good is Australia'. Other places I've seen it are mostly on social media - 'how good are the fcking tigs', etc. Not sure if it's distinctly Australian though.
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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #313 on: October 25, 2020, 07:42:41 am »
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Would you consider the construction 'how good is' to be Aussie slang? I've noticed it popping up more ever since Scomo revived it with 'how good is Australia'. Other places I've seen it are mostly on social media - 'how good are the fcking tigs', etc. Not sure if it's distinctly Australian though.

I would so maybe a colloquial phrase that has undergone commonisation since Morrison’s use? I wouldn’t say it’s specialised enough to be slang idk

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Re: VCE English Language Question Thread
« Reply #314 on: October 27, 2020, 12:37:28 pm »
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Hey guys,
I was just wondering, what type of metalanguage term is 'zinger box' i'm not sure if its slang or if its jargon because it doesn't fully apply to those words so i was just wondering if there was a term that could refer to things like fast food items.



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