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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2011, 07:18:17 pm »
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Haha, this would destroy my SS. My School is full of slackers. Are outliers considered?
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2011, 07:55:27 pm »
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How is that fair? In the majority of my classes at my school, the cohort could be considered very weak. Why should a school like Melbourne Grammar or St Kevin's get an advantage because they have a strong cohort?

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2011, 08:59:25 pm »
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Doesnt seem fair, yeah. I was told if I maintain rank 1, my weak cohort wouldnt bring me down?

Also, what are peoples thoughts on what I could get with:

80/100 GA1
83/100 GA2

Studying hard and aiming for low A+ on exam - is 35 scaled still possible? I'm rank 3 out of 11, rank 1 is real strong and hope to beat him.

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2011, 09:04:42 pm »
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Yeah a 35 seems a real possibility, as you SAC marks will get scaled up closer to an A+ if you got low A's throughout the year.
If that is so, then i really am screwed. As I haven't dropped below 80% in any of my subjects (Legal, Business, History, Maths and English) but my classes are full of retards who bludged all year round.

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2011, 09:06:44 pm »
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I was under the impression that your sac marks determing your ranking and exam marks determine your SAC score.

For example, from what I understand, Im currently rank 3 averaging around low A for sacs, but rank 1 is doing good averaging high A+. If I beat him in exams, I get his sac marks. Assuming that's how it works based off what I've read.

I just want a 35 scaled. I read that some people got A+ A+ A+ and got 39!

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2011, 09:10:05 pm »
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Doesnt seem fair, yeah. I was told if I maintain rank 1, my weak cohort wouldnt bring me down?

Also, what are peoples thoughts on what I could get with:

80/100 GA1
83/100 GA2

Studying hard and aiming for low A+ on exam - is 35 scaled still possible? I'm rank 3 out of 11, rank 1 is real strong and hope to beat him.

Its not your score that matters, its your rank. So if your cohort sucks, then you should be highly ranked - in which case the effects of a weak cohort aren't as big as you think they will be, especially if you get an A+/A on the exam.

Its mainly for people that have performed average/poorly in weak cohorts that suffer, and its fair enough really...

I mean you can imagine a top 10 student at a school like MHS or MacRob acing SACs in some of the more average schools, why should they get the same SAC marks as the number 1 student at a school like MHS/Mac Rob? Think about it guys, it makes sense


edit: last year i got about 175/200 for BM SACs at MHS, absolutely nowhere near the top, there were 3-4 guys that had dropped only 2-3 marks, so you get the idea haha

Anyway I only got an A on the exam, and ended up with 39 raw.

Yeah you can get x3 A+ and get 38, but thats if they are all really low A+, in fact that would mean he got the lowest A+ for every GA.
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2011, 09:53:09 pm »
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Depends on the cohort.

Seriously, if you look at the most extreme examples, you can imagine most students from MHS/MacRob to absolutely ace SACs if they go to a very average school.

So if I get say, 80/100 @ MHS, that could be equivalent to 90/100 at a different school (obviously depends)

I mean if lets just say everyone in a cohort is getting 90+/100, and the average exam score is like 40/70, then the SACs obviously were not that difficult. Whereas if everyone is getting around 80/100, and then the average score is 55/70 in the exam, then things are a little different.



Go to CGS getting 45/50 for a SAC is like 55/50 at MHS :P I have never ever seen a teacher mark so harshly, and once marks are taken off, if dis-proven, he finds more marks to take off elsewhere.
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2011, 10:03:26 pm »
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Doesnt seem fair, yeah. I was told if I maintain rank 1, my weak cohort wouldnt bring me down?

Also, what are peoples thoughts on what I could get with:

80/100 GA1
83/100 GA2

Studying hard and aiming for low A+ on exam - is 35 scaled still possible? I'm rank 3 out of 11, rank 1 is real strong and hope to beat him.

Its not your score that matters, its your rank. So if your cohort sucks, then you should be highly ranked - in which case the effects of a weak cohort aren't as big as you think they will be, especially if you get an A+/A on the exam.

Its mainly for people that have performed average/poorly in weak cohorts that suffer, and its fair enough really...

I mean you can imagine a top 10 student at a school like MHS or MacRob acing SACs in some of the more average schools, why should they get the same SAC marks as the number 1 student at a school like MHS/Mac Rob? Think about it guys, it makes sense


edit: last year i got about 175/200 for BM SACs at MHS, absolutely nowhere near the top, there were 3-4 guys that had dropped only 2-3 marks, so you get the idea haha

Anyway I only got an A on the exam, and ended up with 39 raw.

Yeah you can get x3 A+ and get 38, but thats if they are all really low A+, in fact that would mean he got the lowest A+ for every GA.


So if you rank the best in your cohort despite whether or not it is strong or not, you can still get a high study score?

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2011, 10:40:10 pm »
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Doesnt seem fair, yeah. I was told if I maintain rank 1, my weak cohort wouldnt bring me down?

Also, what are peoples thoughts on what I could get with:

80/100 GA1
83/100 GA2

Studying hard and aiming for low A+ on exam - is 35 scaled still possible? I'm rank 3 out of 11, rank 1 is real strong and hope to beat him.

Its not your score that matters, its your rank. So if your cohort sucks, then you should be highly ranked - in which case the effects of a weak cohort aren't as big as you think they will be, especially if you get an A+/A on the exam.

Its mainly for people that have performed average/poorly in weak cohorts that suffer, and its fair enough really...

I mean you can imagine a top 10 student at a school like MHS or MacRob acing SACs in some of the more average schools, why should they get the same SAC marks as the number 1 student at a school like MHS/Mac Rob? Think about it guys, it makes sense


edit: last year i got about 175/200 for BM SACs at MHS, absolutely nowhere near the top, there were 3-4 guys that had dropped only 2-3 marks, so you get the idea haha

Anyway I only got an A on the exam, and ended up with 39 raw.

Yeah you can get x3 A+ and get 38, but thats if they are all really low A+, in fact that would mean he got the lowest A+ for every GA.


So if you rank the best in your cohort despite whether or not it is strong or not, you can still get a high study score?

Yes, just like in English, If you are good, then your mark in the exam should reflect it. the moderation of grades yes replies part on your cohort, but if you get 100% in SAC and 96% on exam in a weak cohort, you'll still get 45+ easy. Weak/strong cohort is really just indicative of how your teacher marks the sac, that's what the moderation is for, to get an impression of as if one assessor marked everyone's SAC by using the exam mark as a gauge.
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2011, 11:35:17 am »
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so is it better for you if you have a strong or weak cohort? espech if you do really really well in exam and have done really well in sac's too?

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2011, 11:38:23 am »
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Hey cltf :)

What do i needa get to get a 40? considering i dont do shit for legal and im just gonna cram the night b4.
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2011, 12:18:22 pm »
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so is it better for you if you have a strong or weak cohort? espech if you do really really well in exam and have done really well in sac's too?

My understanding is that if your exam result reflects your SAC marks, then it doesn't matter if your cohort is strong or weak. For example, if you achieve A+ on the exam and your SAC marks have been A+, then the performance of your cohort doesn't affect you. You can achieve 45+ scores in any subject, irrespective of your cohort; however the number of students that get 45+ scores may be less in weaker cohorts. That is really the only difference of having strong/weak cohorts. I wouldn't worry about all these study score predictions to be honest. Just give the exam your best possible shot and see where it takes you.

Hey cltf :)

What do i needa get to get a 40? considering i dont do shit for legal and im just gonna cram the night b4.

A+ to be sure. And yeh, you don't do shit for Legal Studies - because you don't need try in this subject, inspire.

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2011, 07:24:48 pm »
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Can someone predit my study score?
Unit 2 Sac marks: 88/100
Unit 4 sac marks: 94/100
I'm aiming for an A or A+ in the exam, what study score am I looking at?

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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2011, 08:48:27 pm »
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Hey cltf :)

What do i needa get to get a 40? considering i dont do shit for legal and im just gonna cram the night b4.


LOL. You of all people should know the answer to this. You'll probably get 100% on the exam with a cram session, but the rest of us can't cram like you :P
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Re: Study Score 40+ for Legal ??????
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2011, 11:58:11 pm »
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i got 85/100 for both unit 3 and 4 sacs
i only have 5 people in my class
ranked first is about 91% for the year
im second with 85
third is around 70
fourth is 50% :|
and the fifth i dont even know she never rocks up but i know she got 1.5/30 on a sac haha
safe to say she wont do well

is it still possible for me to get over 40, if i do REALLY well on the exam? i have been studying heaps. i neglected legal all year and generally crammed the morning of my sacs and managed to get 85% so i think i can do well when i actually try.