Post by: *ryan777* on March 10, 2010, 03:16:49 pm
i knew it wasnt going to be a walk in the park but im starting to feel a bit worried about it now.....
so is this a normal phase most jafies go through or do i really need to step it up a bit?
Post by: ninwa on March 10, 2010, 03:32:33 pm
Post by: Toothpaste on March 10, 2010, 03:36:54 pm
Post by: IntoTheNewWorld on March 10, 2010, 04:18:21 pm
*hi5*
Post by: *ryan777* on March 10, 2010, 04:24:24 pm
also i heard from some tutor or lecturer that about 20% of 1st year comm students dont even get through 1st year, is this true? and whats the most common reason for this? (since everyone doing comm @ monash got 90+ its not cos they r too dumb is it?)
i doubt ill do *that* bad but stil....
Post by: Muuru on March 10, 2010, 07:05:17 pm
20% dropping out sounds about right; first year tends to be a big shock to unsuspecting students. Some people just can't cope with the rapid pace at uni, and they only realise that until a semester in - ATAR doesn't really have anything to do with that. You tend to settle down a lot after first year though, so just hang on for now.
But whatever you do, don't fall behind and make vacuous promises to yourself that you'll catch up on material later in semester. You WILL struggle if you do that.
Post by: Cthulhu on March 10, 2010, 07:14:00 pm
The drop out rate is people who struggle with it and people who decide that commerce just isn't for them. It's all very fast paced this uni business.
Post by: shinny on March 10, 2010, 07:32:55 pm
Post by: ed_saifa on March 10, 2010, 07:55:27 pm
Post by: Fyrefly on March 10, 2010, 08:11:54 pm
It may help to know that I couldn't handle it when I first started uni.
/Veteran VNers collectively sigh because she's about to tell *that* story again.
I lasted just over a week before I intermitted (it's when you 'defer' during your degree).
I took a huge step back, got a job and just worked for 6 months.
I ended up realising how much I missed learning and consciously chose to go to uni, instead of just taking it for granted that my life was headed that direction.
Of course, I was so scared when I went back to try again mid-year... it was the only thing I'd put my mind to that had ever really beaten me... it was one serious learning curb.
My point is... you guys have lasted longer than I did when I started, and you've certainly all got more resolve than I did.
Right now I'm on an overall HD average... if I can do it, trust me when I say you definitely all can as well.
Get stuck into your work, get help NOW if you need it, and you'll do just fine :)
Besides, if excal can pass business law, everyone can.
*runs*
Post by: Cataclysmic on March 10, 2010, 08:29:31 pm
Post by: Cthulhu on March 10, 2010, 08:44:41 pm
Even the lecturer is behind in one of my classes... or am I just eager to learn?
Post by: Gloamglozer on March 10, 2010, 08:49:09 pm
Well, some people in the commerce degree got in through Monash College or a variety of other means if their ATAR was too low. So no, not everybody doing commerce has an ATAR of 90+.
20% dropping out sounds about right; first year tends to be a big shock to unsuspecting students. Some people just can't cope with the rapid pace at uni, and they only realise that until a semester in - ATAR doesn't really have anything to do with that. You tend to settle down a lot after first year though, so just hang on for now.
But whatever you do, don't fall behind and make vacuous promises to yourself that you'll catch up on material later in semester. You WILL struggle if you do that.
Does transferring to another course within the uni still count as "dropping out"?
Post by: /0 on March 10, 2010, 08:57:51 pm
Post by: appianway on March 10, 2010, 09:02:51 pm
Post by: ninwa on March 10, 2010, 09:06:52 pm
Post by: appianway on March 10, 2010, 09:09:06 pm
That was an exhausting period of time...
Post by: /0 on March 10, 2010, 09:09:57 pm
Maybe it's just my UMEP, but I don't feel that my uni subject's going too quickly whatsoever. Then again, I've done the whole course before...
Do you have Boydell? :P
Post by: appianway on March 10, 2010, 09:10:36 pm
Post by: /0 on March 10, 2010, 09:11:28 pm
Post by: TrueTears on March 10, 2010, 09:13:50 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on March 10, 2010, 09:31:25 pm
With second year I am DEFINATELY lagging behind (thank god I have tomorrow off). With uni you must have to be behind (like everyone is).
First week back:
- Real Analysis assignment (~100 questions some take 1minute and some take an hour). Due next Monday.
- Personal Finance assignment due on the second of April.
- Quantum Mechanics test week 4.
That though is pretty standard atm.
Post by: /0 on March 10, 2010, 09:41:29 pm
lol I write more in one Analysis lecture than I do in one English Language exam
Post by: Noblesse on March 10, 2010, 09:50:15 pm
Uni sucks.
Post by: naj011 on March 10, 2010, 11:27:38 pm
Two assignments due next week
Uni sucks.
ditto.
i'm finding uni very overwhelming.
Post by: QuantumJG on March 11, 2010, 08:00:01 am
Woah your Real Analysis assignment has that many questions? Mine has like 5 questions andI still haven't cracked any of them.
lol I write more in one Analysis lecture than I do in one English Language exam
Yeah but your 5 may be really difficult.
Anyway in Quantum Mechanics we just simplified the Shrödinger equation so we could solve it without P.D.E's. QM is definately the most interesting subject I'm taking.
Post by: /0 on March 11, 2010, 03:41:39 pm
I thought we were gonna do the schrodinger equation today but in fact we examined the quantum mechanical wave
Post by: Cthulhu on March 11, 2010, 05:28:17 pm
Post by: /0 on March 11, 2010, 06:49:25 pm
Is the QM course a first year course? I'm surprised it is in first semester.
It is not a first year course
Post by: Cthulhu on March 11, 2010, 06:51:47 pm
Post by: /0 on March 11, 2010, 06:54:27 pm
You and your PhB(Hons) powers!
lol yeah it is a very flexible degree. It also helped that I did UMEP
Post by: Mao on March 11, 2010, 06:55:24 pm
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
Post by: QuantumJG on March 11, 2010, 07:10:55 pm
ooh PDE's tricky...
I thought we were gonna do the schrodinger equation today but in fact we examined the quantum mechanical wave. Using that we proved the uncertainty principle and studied fourier series approximation to quantum waves xD
No fair!
We didn't get to derive the uncertainty princple but, we were told the kx component relates to the momentum-position uncertainty and ω relates to the energy-time uncertainty.
That function isn't for a localized particle.
The Shrödinger equation is a really cool way of showing conservation of energy in a quantum system.
Tomorrow we look at a particle in a box XD
Post by: appianway on March 11, 2010, 07:18:26 pm
Post by: QuantumJG on March 11, 2010, 07:30:35 pm
Post by: Cthulhu on March 11, 2010, 11:00:22 pm
Post by: humph on March 12, 2010, 12:39:35 am
Ahaha, analysis.Bad Mao! Stop being slack!
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
Post by: bucket on March 12, 2010, 12:46:43 am
Post by: Mao on March 13, 2010, 01:23:15 pm
Ahaha, analysis.Bad Mao! Stop being slack!
I dropped analysis [a subject that required work] today and picked up computational [a subject that requires very little work] =P
It actually is really interesting, I have done more work for computational in one day compared to R.A. for two weeks.
Post by: Edmund on March 13, 2010, 07:27:13 pm
Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
Post by: Cthulhu on March 13, 2010, 07:30:42 pm
So far so good, up to date with all my Science subjects, though a little behind in breadth ;DGood luck with your GAMSAT Edmund!! I believe in you!!!
Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
Post by: Ilovemathsmeth on March 13, 2010, 09:07:57 pm
Is it normal to feel really unmotivated when you get to Uni?
Post by: /0 on March 13, 2010, 09:24:21 pm
Post by: ninwa on March 13, 2010, 10:17:04 pm
Have GAMSAT in a week, hope it doesn't slow me down :P
GOOD LUCK!
I know someone doing it and he only started revising last week, apparently :P (I don't believe him)