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Course structure query
« on: December 22, 2013, 10:34:30 pm »
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I'm looking at going to UniMelb next year to do a Bachelor of Science, majoring in Mathematics and Statistics, with lots of breadth in Economics/Finance. These Commerce areas are the fields that I hope to go into eventually, but I am primarily seeking the mathematical background (which is why I want to do Science). I have a couple of questions about course structure.

The handbook mentions the "Diversity of Level 1 science study" requirements: you need to complete subjects from at least two areas of study, and you can only do a maximum of three subjects in each area of study. Seeing as this is only specified for Level 1,  are there any restrictions on Level 2 and 3 study? Looking at any of the Sample Course Plans for various majors, it seems that of the ~6 Science subjects per year, they are still from 2 or more areas of study in each example; however, could I take 6 mathematics subjects in year 2 and year 3?

I don't think I would go to such extremes, but I would want to do more than shown in the Sample Course Plans as I want to go into Commerce eventually, and most Science areas (other than mathematics) are not of any particular interest.

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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2013, 12:14:19 am »
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I've never heard of them requiring diversity for level 2 and 3 subjects, so I think not.

Instead, enforcing some kind of diversity rule for higher level subjects would be counterproductive, as level 2 and 3 subjects are more focused on guiding you towards a particular major instead of a mash of subjects from different topic areas. Taking that away just goes against the whole major idea.

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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2013, 12:19:00 am »
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There are various areas of mathematics that you can pursue, so you'll need some diversity in your second year subjects to keep those options open, particularly if you're considering mathematical physics. It's good to keep your options open and do different things, you never know what you may like :)
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2013, 12:27:45 am »
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Always make your own course plan. That way it'll be tailored to the subjects you want to do, when you want to do them. To answer your question, you can take as many mathematics subjects as you would like in Year 2 and Year 3, go nuts! You can only take 3 Level 1 mathematics subjects though in first year.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 12:51:38 am »
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Great, thank you all!

I have another query that I have come across while constructing a course plan, so it seems somewhat related. I'm looking at ACTL20001/2 Financial Mathematics 1/2 because of my aforementioned interests. However, the handbook states that it is only available as breadth in Arts, Environments and Music. Does this mean I cannot do it in a Science degree, or that I am able to do it but it will count towards my "science" electives and not breadth? I only ask because I figured it was a Commerce subject so thought it wouldn't count...

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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 01:03:44 am »
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Nope, it's basically a mathematics subject so you're not allowed to do it as a Science breadth.

BTW, you could always do a Commerce degree with a Diploma of Mathematics, but that means you have to extend your degree to 3.5 years, or overload numerous semesters.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 01:11:11 am »
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BTW, you could always do a Commerce degree with a Diploma of Mathematics, but that means you have to extend your degree to 3.5 years, or overload numerous semesters.

Or do summer semester :)
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 01:15:49 am »
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Nope, it's basically a mathematics subject so you're not allowed to do it as a Science breadth.

BTW, you could always do a Commerce degree with a Diploma of Mathematics, but that means you have to extend your degree to 3.5 years, or overload numerous semesters.
I had originally planned on this, but everyone I have talked to has said that I need the mathematical background first and foremost if I want to leave research open, and the diploma would not be an extensive/rigorous enough path (plus I already want to do waaay too many mathematics subjects to fit into the degree, let alone if it was only the diploma). Doing Science still keeps postgraduate finance/economics open as well, which is nice.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 02:04:14 am »
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Doing Science still keeps postgraduate finance/economics open as well, which is nice.

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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 03:08:53 pm »
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...and one last question: given my aforementioned plans and interests in the world of economics/finance, and also my scores attained this year, do you think the university would be at all flexible in allowing me to do more than 6 breadth over the entirety of my degree? I will contact them anyway, but I just thought I may as well ask here; perhaps some of you have heard of others attempting to do so?

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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 05:58:50 pm »
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No, six is the maximum, sorry.
There will be no exceptions!  And you can't add extra subjects overall either, as your CSP is for 300 points and no more.  Commonwealth don't support no leisure study.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 07:59:02 pm »
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...and one last question: given my aforementioned plans and interests in the world of economics/finance, and also my scores attained this year, do you think the university would be at all flexible in allowing me to do more than 6 breadth over the entirety of my degree? I will contact them anyway, but I just thought I may as well ask here; perhaps some of you have heard of others attempting to do so?

Thanks

You can pay to do extra subjects, but as simpak suggested they're not so keen on budging for anything...
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2013, 01:02:36 am »
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Plus your ATAR only matters to get into the course and aside from giving you guaranteed entry to more courses it can't give you benefits during the current course.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 06:54:55 pm »
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Plus your ATAR only matters to get into the course and aside from giving you guaranteed entry to more courses it can't give you benefits during the current course.
Yeah, sorry if I came across that way. I didn't mean the score itself, in fact I think the whole 99.90+ thing is pretty overhyped. All I meant was to ask if the Uni is flexible at all for ANY student showing promise, not just in Year 12, if that makes sense.
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Re: Course structure query
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2013, 07:49:34 pm »
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The only way you can alter the breadth numbers is if you can prove to the university that your selected majors (WITHIN the faculty your degree is being issued from) require extra breadth subjects (or need breadth subjects taken out and replaced by faculty subjects) - in order to complete those majors.

For example, I wanted to do an Econ/Accounting Major for my B.Comm and needed to drop a breadth slot for a core subject; the student centre manually entered it for me, no problem.