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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2130 on: July 23, 2018, 06:54:59 pm »
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South Africa Vs Sri Lanka

Not sure what's worse: Being clueless against playing spin or picking only 1 spinner for a Test at the SSC.

SA lost their first 30 wickets of the series for 323 runs

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2131 on: July 23, 2018, 08:11:14 pm »
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South Africa Vs Sri Lanka

Not sure what's worse: Being clueless against playing spin or picking only 1 spinner for a Test at the SSC.

SA lost their first 30 wickets of the series for 323 runs
Can't exactly say that we did much better tbh. At least the Saffers had de Bruyn, and we had Stevie Smith. Great bowling by Maharaj and Herath, though, Herath an all time great!

You have to feel sorry for Steyn though, stuck on the brink of a national record for 2 Tests, 4 innings in which to take 1 wicket and failing :'(
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2132 on: July 23, 2018, 09:42:54 pm »
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Not sure what's worse: Being clueless against playing spin or picking only 1 spinner for a Test at the SSC.

South Africa are not a strong spin nation, and have a history of spinners failing badly in the sub-continent (even sub-continent raised Tahir).  I think they should be relieved that they had one spinner succeed.  Sometimes you've got to play to your strengths.

Just to compare Australia, who similarly focus on pace: Last time Australia was at the SSC Starc and Lyon took 7 each, while the second spinner took 3 wickets (oh, and Australia lost).  In 2011 they drew at the ground (Lyon as the only Australian spinner went wicketless), and in 2004 it was Lehmann who took the role of second spinner and took 6 wickets to add to his century.
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2133 on: July 24, 2018, 12:59:53 pm »
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South Africa are not a strong spin nation, and have a history of spinners failing badly in the sub-continent (even sub-continent raised Tahir).  I think they should be relieved that they had one spinner succeed.  Sometimes you've got to play to your strengths.

Just to compare Australia, who similarly focus on pace: Last time Australia was at the SSC Starc and Lyon took 7 each, while the second spinner took 3 wickets (oh, and Australia lost).  In 2011 they drew at the ground (Lyon as the only Australian spinner went wicketless), and in 2004 it was Lehmann who took the role of second spinner and took 6 wickets to add to his century.
I mean clearly these strengths havent worked.

I guess Its worth a shot since they have much better bowlers than australia.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2134 on: July 24, 2018, 06:28:00 pm »
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South Africa Vs Sri Lanka

Not sure what's worse: Being clueless against playing spin or picking only 1 spinner for a Test at the SSC.

SA lost their first 30 wickets of the series for 323 runs
I think it was more to do with the fact that they thought they could get some reverse going for their pacers due to the hard and dry pitch, but clearly it didn't work so yeah an opportunity missed for the Saffers there I reckon.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2135 on: July 25, 2018, 12:18:37 am »
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I mean clearly these strengths havent worked.

I guess Its worth a shot since they have much better bowlers than australia.

If you can't make decent scores first innings you will probably struggle on the sub-continent, no matter how good your bowlers are.
And just last week Cricinfo were talking up Steyn as one of the greatest fast bowlers ever on the sub-continent (here)
Easy to say play a second spinner - I'm just not sure they have one that could earn their keep in any conditions.
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2136 on: July 25, 2018, 12:25:50 am »
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If you can't make decent scores first innings you will probably struggle on the sub-continent, no matter how good your bowlers are.
And just last week Cricinfo were talking up Steyn as one of the greatest fast bowlers ever on the sub-continent (here)
Easy to say play a second spinner - I'm just not sure they have one that could earn their keep in any conditions.
hmmm ok

I've already considered SA trying not to be a meme when batting and obviously you wouldn't drop steyn. Everything else you've said is merely speculation which is fine I guess but we already know that their "plan" didn't work.

I do agree that it very well could be that the difference in the teams was way too much for any sort of tactics to sway the difference.
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2137 on: November 09, 2018, 02:30:13 pm »
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Yay, the Foxtel stream is free on the Cricket Aus site :) Hopefully we bat decently today...

Think a decent opening stand is important.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2138 on: November 09, 2018, 11:41:45 pm »
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Yay, Australia finally won something!  Obviously the elite honesty coming to the fore :)
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2139 on: November 09, 2018, 11:48:37 pm »
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That was a surprisingly good show by us...
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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2140 on: March 07, 2019, 06:57:38 pm »
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Virat Kohli is a such a bad cricketer. He has no idea what he is doing. But he is pretty good. So all round hes not bad. But he cant catch. But he's pretty good i reckon.
I know so much about cricket! Lebron james will hit a quin ton next round.
The pitchers will have to watch him, he hits well through the goal box. I love the use of reverse swing spin seam slip. Really great stuff.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2141 on: March 26, 2019, 03:54:42 pm »
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Bit dodgy by Ashwin (although technically within the rules). I don't agree with mankading and don't think anyone should do it but if you are going to you should at least warn them once.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2142 on: March 26, 2019, 04:11:36 pm »
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Bit dodgy by Ashwin (although technically within the rules). I don't agree with mankading and don't think anyone should do it but if you are going to you should at least warn them once.

Buttler was barely even backing up, too?!

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2143 on: March 26, 2019, 06:54:47 pm »
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Buttler was barely even backing up, too?!
Ashwin seemed to have made his mind up to run him out even before he had got to the crease - it's likely that if he had continued his bowling action without pausing for a second buttler would've still been in the crease. On the other hand, buttler has been known to normally back up a long way and been out like this before even after being warned.

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Re: The Cricket Thread
« Reply #2144 on: March 29, 2019, 02:34:11 pm »
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I would have to say that, despite the comments of the MCC and Ashwin himself, having looked at the footage I can say without a doubt that the ball should have been ruled dead by the third umpire, as Ashwin had pulled out of his bowling stride before taking the bails off. Had he continued in his run-up, Buttler would not have been out of the crease by the time the ball was released. That said, I do accept that a batsman should be liable for attempting to take an unfair advantage, but in this case I do not think that Ashwin did the right thing.

What are other peoples' thoughts on the idea of 3rd umpire over-ruling on-field calls for things like overstepping? I feel like there have been many cases lately of outcry over an incorrect decision of this sort, and I wonder if it would be better to have the 3rd umpire ensuring that all of these decisions are correctly made on the field.
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